Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: Le 2015-08-26 13:37, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit : This may not be complete and some of these may be possible to some extent with legacy grub: 1. Grub Legacy is 32-bit only, so you need 32-bit libraries or use grub-

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2015 11:53, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 06:14:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I find for popular CDs (like what my kids buy in music stores), Kids still buy CDs? My grandson recently asked me What's a record? when I used the term. I live in a different universe

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-08-27, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: I've had serious problems in the past getting to to install on a partition and gave up. Is that bug fixed? It insists on installing on the MBR which is

[gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread gevisz
I do not understand: 1) why portage wants to upgrade ncurses-5.9-r3 to ncurses-5.9-r101 (because it is marked), 2) why it can not, 3) what to do with this block. $ eix ncurses [I] sys-libs/ncurses Available versions: (0)5.9-r3 ~5.9-r4 ~6.0(0/6) (5)~5.9-r101(5/5)

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:34 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand: 1) why portage wants to upgrade ncurses-5.9-r3 to ncurses-5.9-r101 (because it is marked), 2) why it can not, 3) what to do with this block. $ eix ncurses [I] sys-libs/ncurses Available

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 27 August 2015 08:49:13 Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net I've had serious problems in the past getting [grub2] to install on a partition and gave up. Is that bug fixed? It insists on installing on the MBR which is

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:33:33 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Fix the real error, and all that junk on the screen goes away. No reason to stop updating. And the fix is to resync, it's a fixed bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558856 -- Neil Bothwick You want us to do WHAT? - Ancient

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:50:15 + (UTC), mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: The maintainers of grub are basically acting like dictators much like Microsoft. The whole point of using Linux was to have complete control of the PC. Who those morons think they are to tell me what I should use to boot

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Alan Grimes
Mick wrote: Vinyl LPs are making a comeback in the UK too among audiophiles. Those who can afford it use valve amps too. Yeah, the most popular type is the Single Ended Triode (SET). The most popular toobz are the 2A3 (good for about 5W output) and the 300B (good for about 8W output). -- IQ

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 05:42:07PM +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: That solved the block for me as it ended up removing llvm What is llvm actually used for? -- Joost Some of the graphics code in mesa is written in LLVM's IR and compiled on the fly using all of the x86 extensions (SSE, AVX,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:19:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: For those of us with multiple Linux installations on a disk, that's a pretty big reason to stick with grub-legacy. Actually, that's a good scenario for GRUB2. grub2-mkconfig can detect all Linux installations on a system, not just

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:49:13 AM Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: Le 2015-08-26 13:37, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit : This may not be complete and some of these may be possible to some extent with legacy grub: 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread mcatudal
- Mail original - It's not a bug, and it won't be fixed. Installing on a partition is simply not supported. When a needed functionality is no longer working it is a bug. To have grub installing itself on the MBR when the users doesn't it to is unacceptable because it wipes out the

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 04:50:15PM +, mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: - Mail original - It's not a bug, and it won't be fixed. Installing on a partition is simply not supported. When a needed functionality is no longer working it is a bug. To have grub installing itself on the

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:25:43 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: (see package.accept_keywords in the portage(5) man page for more details) # required by app-emulation/wine-1.6.2::gentoo # required by @selected # required by

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:42:07 +0200 schrieb J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: I only had 1 required by set. Which basically got me to remove the llvm use-flag from mesa. That solved the block for me as it ended up removing llvm [...] FWIW, my experience yesterday was that you should be able

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Mick
On Thursday 27 Aug 2015 15:43:41 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/08/2015 11:53, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 06:14:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I find for popular CDs (like what my kids buy in music stores), Kids still buy CDs? My grandson recently asked me What's a record? when

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread James
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards at gmail.com writes: On 2015-08-27, Mike Gilbert floppym at gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatudal at comcast.net wrote: I've had serious problems in the past getting to to install on a partition and gave up. Is that

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread gevisz
2015-08-27 17:43 GMT+03:00 Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:34 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand: 1) why portage wants to upgrade ncurses-5.9-r3 to ncurses-5.9-r101 (because it is marked), 2) why it can not, 3) what to do with

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2015 17:25, gevisz wrote: 2015-08-27 17:52 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de: Am Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:34:24 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: I do not understand: 1) why portage wants to upgrade ncurses-5.9-r3 to ncurses-5.9-r101 (because it is marked), 2) why it can

[gentoo-user] LXQT (~0.9.0-r2)

2015-08-27 Thread James
Hello, So on a recently upgraded system, I removed KDE and I'm attempting to install LX!T-meta-0.9.0-r2. Any advise on that is most welcome. The system had not been upgraded for several years (an old laptop) but all seems fine now with portage, compilers, @system and @world all current. Last

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread gevisz
2015-08-27 18:18 GMT+03:00 Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 6:16 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-08-27 17:43 GMT+03:00 Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:34 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: I do not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-08-27, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: I've had serious problems in the past getting to to install on a partition and

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:34:24 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: I do not understand: 1) why portage wants to upgrade ncurses-5.9-r3 to ncurses-5.9-r101 (because it is marked), 2) why it can not, 3) what to do with this block. $ eix ncurses [I] sys-libs/ncurses Available

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread gevisz
2015-08-27 17:52 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de: Am Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:34:24 +0300 schrieb gevisz gev...@gmail.com: I do not understand: 1) why portage wants to upgrade ncurses-5.9-r3 to ncurses-5.9-r101 (because it is marked), 2) why it can not, 3) what to do with this block.

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 05:33:33 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/08/2015 17:25, gevisz wrote: 2015-08-27 17:52 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de: P.S. I have too much required by lines. So, if the portage will not resolve this issue automatically, I will stop to update my

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:34 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand: 1) why portage wants to upgrade ncurses-5.9-r3 to ncurses-5.9-r101 (because it is marked), 2) why it can not, 3) what

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 6:16 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-08-27 17:43 GMT+03:00 Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:34 PM, gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand: 1) why portage wants to upgrade ncurses-5.9-r3 to ncurses-5.9-r101

[gentoo-user] Re: about updating gcc wiki pages

2015-08-27 Thread James
Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: Can anyone offer an informed opinion as to whether the wiki pages at: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC First glance it seems updated. Are current and apply as well to the newest gcc versions? GCC-5.2? Several folks have posted to a

[gentoo-user] Re: curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread James
J. Roeleveld joost at antarean.org writes: What is llvm actually used for? Enable llvm code generator for ghc (-fllvm). Build with llvm. Currently the package only builds against old versions of llvm. Enable LLVM backend for Gallium3D. Build the sparse-llvm utility hth, James

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Mick
On Thursday 27 Aug 2015 19:31:34 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:23:56 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:49:13 AM Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: Le 2015-08-26 13:37,

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 01:37:42PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote BTW: I recommend to add: speed=4 paraopts=proof and if your drive supports C2 errors, it may be a good idea to use: speed=4 paraopts=proof,c2check as add-on. How do I know that the drive goes as low as 4? eject -X

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Todd Goodman
* Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [150827 14:57]: On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:43:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Kids still buy CDs? My grandson recently asked me What's a record? when I used the term. I live in a different universe to you called South Africa and CDs are a big market

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:50:15 PM mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: The maintainers of grub are basically acting like dictators much like Microsoft. The whole point of using Linux was to have complete control of the PC. Who those morons think they are to tell me what I should use to boot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Mick
On Thursday 27 Aug 2015 20:30:17 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2015-08-27, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards at gmail.com writes: For those of us with multiple Linux installations on a disk, that's a pretty big reason to stick with grub-legacy. So you are

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:23:56 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:49:13 AM Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: Le 2015-08-26 13:37, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit : This may not be complete and

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:43:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Kids still buy CDs? My grandson recently asked me What's a record? when I used the term. I live in a different universe to you called South Africa and CDs are a big market here. The bulk of the population (none of whom are early

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-08-27, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards at gmail.com writes: For those of us with multiple Linux installations on a disk, that's a pretty big reason to stick with grub-legacy. So you are saying (trying to read the 'tea leaves' here) that grub

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-08-27, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: You beat me to it. Yes GRUB2 can be installed on a partition instead of the MBR and yes it complains about it. However, it works regardless. I know it has worked in the past, and I know that recent versions of some distros that use Grub2

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:47:30 PM James wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards at gmail.com writes: On 2015-08-27, Mike Gilbert floppym at gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatudal at comcast.net wrote: I've had serious problems in the past

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Schilling , Jörg
Most drives support 4x ripping but I know of no drive that has a low speed above 8x. If you have a working algorithm, please send me a note. The format you reported is caused by manual editing of users and missing manual actvities from freedb. -- Send from my Android phone

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:44:07 PM Mick wrote: On Thursday 27 Aug 2015 20:30:17 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2015-08-27, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards at gmail.com writes: For those of us with multiple Linux installations on a disk, that's a pretty

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:42:46 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Title-artist-based filenames are harder than it looks. I'm working on a bash script to generate title_-_artist.flac filenames from audio_nn.inf data. Then I'll pass that name to flac's -o parameter. Why reinvent the wheel? abcde is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Mick
On Thursday 27 Aug 2015 21:03:19 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:44:07 PM Mick wrote: On Thursday 27 Aug 2015 20:30:17 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2015-08-27, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards at gmail.com writes: For those of us

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Mysterious sudoers.d error

2015-08-27 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:22:48AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote Is your user a member of the audio group? I do CD ripping sometimes, and the three groups acm is a member of which seem relevant are audio, cdrom, and cdrw. Running ripping as root isn't ideal. [d531][root][~] grep waltdnes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:06:25 PM Mick wrote: On Thursday 27 Aug 2015 21:03:19 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:44:07 PM Mick wrote: On Thursday 27 Aug 2015 20:30:17 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2015-08-27, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: I use GRUB2 because my efi firmware (like most) is really buggy. Changing the boot order doesn't work at all (neither on the menu nor through efibootmgr), so I have to delete and recreate the entries in the right order. What I did is create 2 efi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:19:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: For those of us with multiple Linux installations on a disk, that's a pretty big reason to stick with grub-legacy. Actually, that's a good scenario for GRUB2. grub2-mkconfig can

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-08-27 14:23, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit : I just got it to work with these steps: 1. Mount the partition to /mnt/usb 2. Run: #grub2-install --directory /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc --boot- directory=/mnt/usb/boot --force /dev/sdb2 Installing for i386-pc platform. grub2-install: warning: File

[gentoo-user] Java plugin in Midori web browser

2015-08-27 Thread José Romildo Malaquias
I need help getting java plugin working in the Midori web browser. I have dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0.51 installed on my ~amd64 system. The plugin works with Firefox. Romildo

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-08-27 15:18, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit : Who are you to tell them what they should work on? They're acting like FOSS developers, many of whom work for free or underpaid so they work on whatever the fuck they want. The problem with FOSS is that we have too many idiots that like to rant

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-08-27 13:16, Alan Mackenzie a écrit : On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 04:50:15PM +, mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: The maintainers of grub are basically acting like dictators much like Microsoft. The whole point of using Linux was to have complete control of the PC. Who those morons think

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-08-27 20:31, Jeremi Piotrowski a écrit : On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Michel Catudal wrote: No one is asking them to do that. As mentioned before it works with some override. A solution to the problem would be to remove the arrogance toward people who want grub on a partition and remove the

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2015 20:56, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:43:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Kids still buy CDs? My grandson recently asked me What's a record? when I used the term. I live in a different universe to you called South Africa and CDs are a big market here. The bulk of

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: You missed the point, I do not want some installation treating me like a child by denying an install to protect me against myself. If I mess up my system it is nobody's business but mine. Well, then quit acting

[gentoo-user] Re: Java plugin in Midori web browser

2015-08-27 Thread James
José Romildo Malaquias jrmalaq at gmail.com writes: I need help getting java plugin working in the Midori web browser. I have dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0.51 installed on my ~amd64 system. I used icedtea-bin for most everything. The plugin works with Firefox. I do not use that browser.

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:25:01 PM Michel Catudal wrote: This is nonsense. I have never had a case where it would not boot when I have grub correctly installed on the partition. Install grub to a partition and do something like this: su cd mv /boot/grub grub cp -r grub /boot rm -r grub

Re: [gentoo-user] Java plugin in Midori web browser

2015-08-27 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:25:43 PM José Romildo Malaquias wrote: I need help getting java plugin working in the Midori web browser. I have dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0.51 installed on my ~amd64 system. The plugin works with Firefox. Romildo I don't use midori, but according to

Re: [gentoo-user] Java plugin in Midori web browser

2015-08-27 Thread bitlord
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 20:25:43 -0300 José Romildo Malaquias jrma...@gmail.com wrote: I need help getting java plugin working in the Midori web browser. I have dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0.51 installed on my ~amd64 system. The plugin works with Firefox. Romildo Have you tried to go

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-08-27, Jeremi Piotrowski jeremi.piotrow...@gmail.com wrote: I much prefer chainloading and giving each distro free reign over their own boot loader. That way they can pretend they're the boss and work the way they were intended to and I can supervise things from gentoo. Yup. I've got

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-08-27 21:50, Rich Freeman a écrit : On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: You missed the point, I do not want some installation treating me like a child by denying an install to protect me against myself. If I mess up my system it is nobody's

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: Le 2015-08-27 21:50, Rich Freeman a écrit : On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: You missed the point, I do not want some installation treating me like a child by denying an

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread gevisz
2015-08-27 20:21 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:33:33 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Fix the real error, and all that junk on the screen goes away. No reason to stop updating. And the fix is to resync, it's a fixed bug

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 06:14:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I find for popular CDs (like what my kids buy in music stores), Kids still buy CDs? My grandson recently asked me What's a record? when I used the term. -- Neil Bothwick For a list of all the ways technology has failed to improve the

[gentoo-user] Re: about updating gcc wiki pages

2015-08-27 Thread Harry Putnam
wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au writes: On 27/08/15 17:53, Harry Putnam wrote: Can anyone offer an informed opinion as to whether the wiki pages at: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC Are current and apply as well to the newest gcc versions? You may not have noticed but at the bottom of

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: I went to the CNE (Canadian National Exhibition) yesterday and indulged in a buying spree of 18 CD sets of my fave music (basically anything pop/rock/country pre-Beatles). I now have over 20 CDs that I want to rip to flac eventually. I dread the

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: All of them have freedb support and use cdparanoia as back-end. Cdparanoia is not a good choice, it has many flaws: - It is based on a 1997 cdda2wav and was never updated - It does not create the track based files at the right locations

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: You can try k3b. It can use cd-text or freedb and encode to most formats. It is a kde application so it will pull a lot of deps if you don't use kde. k3b unfortunately does not use the best low level code for extraction. Better use

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Thanks. I've now switched from cdparanoia to cdda2wav, like so... cdda2wav -vall dev=1,0,0 cddb=0 -paranoia -B I get separate tracks and info files, e.g. audio_01.inf, audio_01.wav. audio_02.inf, audio_02.wav, etc. I can pull the tune and

[gentoo-user] about updating gcc wiki pages

2015-08-27 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/08/15 17:53, Harry Putnam wrote: Can anyone offer an informed opinion as to whether the wiki pages at: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC Are current and apply as well to the newest gcc versions? You may not have noticed but at

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Mysterious sudoers.d error

2015-08-27 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Walter. On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 09:12:57PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 07:28:41PM -0400, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 07:20:37PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: I've just switched from cdparanoia to cdda2wav, to get track names/artists. As a

Re: [gentoo-user] about updating gcc wiki pages

2015-08-27 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 03:53:03 AM Harry Putnam wrote: Can anyone offer an informed opinion as to whether the wiki pages at: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC Are current and apply as well to the newest gcc versions? I am not having any problem so far (only just compiling

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Jeremi Piotrowski jeremi.piotrow...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: The only thing I can say on my own behalf is that there was once a time when it wasn't so far fetched to start emerge -vC 'ing stuff. Many thing's can be removed

[gentoo-user] about updating gcc wiki pages

2015-08-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Can anyone offer an informed opinion as to whether the wiki pages at: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC Are current and apply as well to the newest gcc versions? I am not having any problem so far (only just compiling as I wrrite) but I have a hunch those pages may be getting a bit

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using xfce4 with compositing turned off?

2015-08-27 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:36:59 +0100 schrieb Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 26 Aug 2015 04:47:24 waben...@gmail.com wrote: walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Then I generated an xorg.conf in the old way using 'Xorg -configure'. That file didn't work right either. Then I

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:17:46 -0400, Michel Catudal wrote: I don't care for the automatic ways of grub2, I prefer to edit the boot file by hand and have a nice command line screen. As you can with GRUB2. grub-mkconfig is a convenience, mainly for providers of binary distros so they can update

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-27 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Michel Catudal wrote: No one is asking them to do that. As mentioned before it works with some override. A solution to the problem would be to remove the arrogance toward people who want grub on a partition and remove the part in the installer that refuses to install it

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread wabenbau
Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: All of them have freedb support and use cdparanoia as back-end. Cdparanoia is not a good choice, it has many flaws: - It is based on a 1997 cdda2wav and was never updated -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using xfce4 with compositing turned off?

2015-08-27 Thread wabenbau
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I do not use a xorg.conf file with the Kaveri APU. It just works with the following: I deleted my xorg.conf and X is still working without any problems. In /etc/portage/make.conf: VIDEO_CARDS=radeon radeonsi ditto.

[gentoo-user] Re: CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread James
Alan Grimes ALONZOTG at verizon.net writes: Vinyl LPs are making a comeback in the UK too among audiophiles. Those who can afford it use valve amps too. Vinyl does give an uniquely analog reproduction that is different than digital gear, if you listen closely, the inherent noise is actually