Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] convert ext3 - hfs+
On 5/3/05, lincr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] convert ext3 - hfs+ From: Jon Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:52:38 +0100 To: gentoo-ppc-user@lists.gentoo.org Linux cannot handle HFS+ in any way. I'm not even sure that HFS+ is 'open' to other types of OS to try to use, but I could be wrong it's only a partition type. You can view ext2 (I don't know about ext3) in MacOSX by getting the ext2fs tool. This will show up in System Preferences and allow you to 'see' the contents of the drive/partition. Who told you Linux couldn't handle HFS+? Have you heard of MOL? Or have you tried to mount an OS X partition on Linux? (it works). There again, I'm not a Gentoo or even a Linux user. My installation failed, and corrupted my partition map, and led to the loss of my OS X partition and 206 applications. Thats what backups are for. If you aren't used to the command line, you shouldn't be trying to install Gentoo. Or at least try to use one of the few graphical or command line installer programs for Gentoo. -- Man Wit Da Plan. -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerging x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.4-r1 had failed.
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 19:16 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: I Already try to use fix_libtool.sh 3.3.5 and I am still having the problem ... does any one knows what I can do next ? My make.conf is : CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe I don know what is wrong And the error was : grep: //usr/lib/gcc-lib/pentium3-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory Try running: fix_libtool_files.sh `gcc -dumpversion` --oldarch pentium3-pc-linux-gnu Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gtksee exits when entering directory
Since my last update, my primary ap for browsing photos exits with *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0809bbd2 *** Google returns only one hit (not english) referring to open office. Any ideas as to what I've messed up? TIA -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] installing big qmail server ... where to start?
thanks for your info guys, that was indeed helpful! One more question: should I use a meta-package like vpopmail, or would a plain qmail+mysql (maybe with a custom admin webinterface) be enough? -- quoting A. Khattri -- On Thu, 5 May 2005, kashani wrote: other hand, spam filter can be CPU intensive and use a ton of RAM. If you plan on running spamassassin I would recommend offloading that to one or more dedicated boxes running the daemonized spamassassin. We have two qmail servers here (third one is almost ready) plus we have three other boxes dedicated to spamd and clamd. (We're using round-robin DNS of a local zone to distribute spam+virus filtering to the filtering boxes. This is for 3000-4000 mailboxes ;-) I use Mysql on my current system with Postfix. I assume qmail can play nicely with Mysql as well. We are running tcpserver patched with a MySQL patch. We're using vpopmail with MySQL. (Pretty much everything is running with MySQL, even spamd preferences and squirrelmail preferences/address books. I am running into some Mysql connection problems because each Postfix process has it's own Mysql connection. IIRC you can configure Mysql:proxy in Postfix and Courier to multiplex queries over a single connection... something I'm planning on doing later this month. We have separate read and write MySQL servers plus replication to a third box. -- -- Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. -- Homer Simpson Bart Gets An Elephant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using rsync to update a remote directory via ssh.
On 5/5/05, Charles Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a question I intended to post earlier, but decided to lookup my own answer (and happened to find it in the manpage): I have ssh access to my webhost. I am looking for an easy way to keep ~/public_html updated on the remote site using ssh. I was using scp to transfer files, but I knew that there had to be an easier way. I searched the internet for a solution and didn't find a direct one, when I thought of rsync (1-way update). Anywho, I checked the rsync manpage and there was an interesting flag: -e This particular flag allows you to pick the remote shell you wish to use (such as ssh). I created an alias using my new command and now it's easy to update my site. For those interested, here is the command: rsync -v -c -r -u -P -essh -luser --delete-excluded --stats /local/dir/ remote_address:/remote/dir/ See man rsync(1) for information about the flags used. Hopefully this helps someone out there. By default, rsync uses ssh.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] - BIOS after Gentoo is up
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: My main interest in this area is one that most here won't probably have much experience on - Gentoo-xbox. In the case of Gentoo proper running on the XBox there is a large amount of confusion and differing opinions about BIOS. Clearly you have to make a change to get Gentoo to even load on the XBox because the M$ BIOS doesn't boot from a DVD. However what the BIOS does in that architecture after boot seems unclear to me from the small amount of reading I've done so far. For the XBox there is the Cromwell BIOS but there are also other BIOS's done by groups outside of Linux development. (As best I understand them.) Certainly most are to allow more sorts of game playing and hacks, which is of no interest to me, but some of them allow booting from a DVD, hence my interest in whether to use one fo them or wait for a version of Cromwell for my XBox. (Since it isn't out yet.) Afaiu, you don't need to modify the bios. http://www.xbox-linux.org/Software_Method_HOWTO If you still want to modify the bios: http://www.xbox-linux.org/Hardware_Method_HOWTO Afaiu, you cannot play xbox games anymore with one/some of the option(s) above. Also: http://www.xbox-linux.org/Version_1.6_Warning While the XBox and a normal PC aren't identical by any means it seems to me that the Linux kernel running on either of these platforms is, more or less, the same and would likely make the same sort of requests to BIOS if it had any interest in doing so. If the 2.6.XX kernel on an X86 PC doesn't talk to BIOS it seems a reasonable change that the same kernel on an XBox won't either, but that's a guess. Yes, the xbox is a normal pc... http://www.xbox-linux.org/FAQ#The_Xbox_is_a_standard_PC.2C_isn.27t_it.3F and... http://www.xbox-linux.org/docs/xboxpc.html Best regards Peter K -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gtksee exits when entering directory
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ted Ozolins wrote: Since my last update, my primary ap for browsing photos exits with *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0809bbd2 *** Google returns only one hit (not english) referring to open office. Any ideas as to what I've messed up? Can you elaborate on what that update was? - -- What happened last night can happen again. Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ BSD | cron | forensics | shell-tools | commonbox | netmon | vim | web-apps ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCe1WwC3poscuANHARAm2PAKDXY/ODk24GjEbmXwtrb4vXFnRjbgCgyek7 fCyL6R4e9zUb56EOjn25ZsQ= =kVoJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] adding PSEUDO printer to CUPS
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 18:07 -0600, Joseph wrote: I want to add pseudo printer to cups that will use fax2ps command to convert hylafax tiff image to PostScript file. The current Print to File (PostScript) pseudo printer generate ps file that is impossible to read. I can easily add another pseudo printer but I'm not sure what argument to put command setting line beside fax2ps guessing here, but I suspect that you should look at the code for the existing pseudo printer to get inspiration. and/or experiment. -- #Joseph -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerging x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.4-r1 had failed.
Thank you I will try as soon as I can, it wont have any impact in march option will ? On 5/6/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 6 May 2005 07:41:27 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: and yes I changed CHOST from pentium3-pc-linux-gnu to i686-pc-linux-gnu because I see on some Gentoo List that this should make the system run better. Most of the posts regarding changing CHOST say don't do it, for good reason. Now you have changed it, you must run fix_libtool_files.sh --oldarch pentium3- pc- linux- gnu Run fix_libtool_files.sh with no arguments for some explanation. -- Neil Bothwick Angular Momentum Makes The World Go 'Round -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE has moved to svn. How to modify amarok-cvs.ebuild?
Hi! KDE has moved to svn. How to modify amarok-cvs.ebuild? Andrew -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] - BIOS after Gentoo is up
On 5/6/05, Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Afaiu, you don't need to modify the bios. http://www.xbox-linux.org/Software_Method_HOWTO AFAIU this is not appropriate and won't work for the newest versions of the XBox. (Version 1.6b) The newest versions of the XBox have stuff in the System BIOS that defeats the software mod tricks. Beyond that I don't have immediate access to the appropriate games anyway. If you still want to modify the bios: http://www.xbox-linux.org/Hardware_Method_HOWTO Afaiu, you cannot play xbox games anymore with one/some of the option(s) above. This is only true if you completely disable system BIOS and/or change things on the XBox disk partitions. My hardware mod allows me to make a choice between system BIOS and hardware mod BIOS at boot time based on which button I push on the front panel. I intend to clone the XBox system partitions on a larger drive which will ensure that this isn't an issue. (Not that I care much, but anyway...) Also: http://www.xbox-linux.org/Version_1.6_Warning Yes, I've written David Pye but not received a response. Wiating a couple of days now... Thans, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] adding PSEUDO printer to CUPS
On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 23:34 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 18:07 -0600, Joseph wrote: I want to add pseudo printer to cups that will use fax2ps command to convert hylafax tiff image to PostScript file. The current Print to File (PostScript) pseudo printer generate ps file that is impossible to read. I can easily add another pseudo printer but I'm not sure what argument to put command setting line beside fax2ps guessing here, but I suspect that you should look at the code for the existing pseudo printer to get inspiration. and/or experiment. I already thought about it and couldn't figure much out of it; as if it was somehow compile into the CUPS. Though I as able to find that the preudo printer interfaces filters are in this directory and it is possible to write one (if one knows how): /usr/kde/3.2/share/apps/kdeprint/filters -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]big partition
Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: There are no problem in using a 100GB partition on home with ext3 I had a home server with 100 GB running for almost 6 months without any trouble. :) On 5/6/05, Tamas Sarga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Would I have any performance dropback, or any other trouble, if I use 100GB /home partition on IDE with ext3? In the past I heard, that max. 20GB partition should be created, but I don't remember, what were the reasons? Maybe this was some FS limit. Nowaday LILO can boot from anywhere, am I right? TIA. Cheers, Tamas Sarga Srga Tams -- Make the world confused!Zavard ssze a vilgot! Smile on monday morning!Mosolyogj htf reggel! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I would suggest that you look into performance of different filesytems. If you are interested in a recommendation, I would choose Reiser over ext3 as it has better support for large numbers of small files typical with desktop usage. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] looking for alternatives to Apache
I have spent a way too much time in the past week screwing around with Apache configurations. The final straw was when I took a working configuration, change the domain name and it failed without telling me why or where. so I'm looking for an alternative. What I need is something that has the following characteristics: Virtual hosts virtual hosts server name aliases 404 handler for different URLs (ie. http://www.demo.com/ and http://www.demo.com/sub/ should be able to have different handlers) REDIRECT_URL properly set during a 404 events CGI directory level access control works with mailman there are probably other things that would be nice but I'll probably find them out when I try to use it. I have already tried and failed with lighttpd. it fails on the REDIRECT_URL test as well as rather difficult workarounds for server name aliases. so I would welcome suggestions about alternative Web servers that are reasonably alive. ---eric -- http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/view.html?pg=5 The result of the duopoly that currently defines competition is that prices and service suck. We're the world's leader in Internet technology - except that we're not. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for alternatives to Apache
On Fri, 06 May 2005 10:07:41 -0400 Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I have spent a way too much time in the past week screwing around with | Apache configurations. The final straw was when I took a working | configuration, change the domain name and it failed without telling me | why or where. | | so I'm looking for an alternative. What I need is something that has | the following characteristics: | | Virtual hosts | virtual hosts server name aliases | 404 handler for different URLs (ie. http://www.demo.com/ and | http://www.demo.com/sub/ should be able to have different handlers) | REDIRECT_URL properly set during a 404 events | CGI | directory level access control | works with mailman I think cherokee can do most of those. Oh, and whatever you do, stay away from monkeyd. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgprpFqM1Mcri.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]big partition
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Craig Duncan wrote: I would suggest that you look into performance of different filesytems. If you are interested in a recommendation, I would choose Reiser over ext3 as it has better support for large numbers of small files typical with desktop usage. Hi, I heard lot of urban legend about flying away data from reiser3 4. I can never validate whether was FS, or user error, but some performance dropback for stability is more than acceptable for me. I used to develop home, but I haven't got enough money for UPS, and two HDD with mirroring. I used to create backups every month, but it gives just a minimal safety. So, thanks for your suggestion, but I won't use reiserFS, I know there are thousands of users, with millions of workhours without any trouble, but few negative feedbacks are enough me to fear ;) TIA. Cheers, Tamas Sarga Srga Tams -- Make the world confused!Zavard ssze a vilgot! Smile on monday morning!Mosolyogj htf reggel! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gtksee exits when entering directory
Aaron Walker wrote: Ted Ozolins wrote: Since my last update, my primary ap for browsing photos exits with *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0809bbd2 *** Google returns only one hit (not english) referring to open office. Any ideas as to what I've messed up? Can you elaborate on what that update was? -- What happened last night can happen again. Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ BSD | cron | forensics | shell-tools | commonbox | netmon | vim | web-apps ] Since I have both Gnome and KDE installed on this box (AMD 2G xp) and had not done an upgrade for about four months, just about every lib. glibc was one of the upgrades. I have gone through just about all the progs I use and do not have any problems with any of them aside from gtksee. I unmerged gtksee and deleted /home/ted/.gtksee then emerged gtksee with no change. The two programs that I've had problems with in the past after an upgrade (pikdev, ponyprog) are unaffected this time. I haven't had time to really trace the prob nor check all bug reports (work load due to a new project at work is taking up just about all my time these days) -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using the Cryptographic File System as your home directory
marcin wrote: Sure aes as well as blowfish and other features On 5/5/05, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 05 May 2005 09:29 am, marcin wrote: Hello, I think that interesting alternative to CFS can be EncFs which is faster then CFS. Comparison between other encrypted filesystems and EncFs you can find here: http://arg0.net/users/vgough/encfs.html Absolutely FANTASTIC... has aes too! Woo Hoo! -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 6:03pm up 27 days, 1:10, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I am open to trying this out as an encrypted home directory as well. But since I already have CFS working on the laptop, perhaps I can get it going on my big AMD64 machine. So far it is using FreeBSD, but I want to convert it to Gentoo. Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to Xorg problem.
# emerge unmerge xfree86 # emerge unmerge freetype # emerge xorg-x11 freetype I think. Something to that effect should work. xorg and xfree are mutually exclusive, and so is their XFT (IIRC). I've never used XFree on Gentoo, so YMMV. On 5/5/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im on XFree86 4.3.8 or something, and I really want Xorg. Because you guys in portage merged XFree and XOrg, I would just really need to update Xorg-x11. The only problem is when I attempt so, Mozilla FireFox and Thunderbird are blocking the mandatory freetype package. What can I do?? Ian -- Microsoft is a lot better at making money than it is at making good operating systems. -- Linus Torvalds -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for alternatives to Apache
Eric S. Johansson wrote: I have spent a way too much time in the past week screwing around with Apache configurations. The final straw was when I took a working configuration, change the domain name and it failed without telling me why or where. so I'm looking for an alternative. What I need is something that has the following characteristics: Virtual hosts virtual hosts server name aliases 404 handler for different URLs (ie. http://www.demo.com/ and http://www.demo.com/sub/ should be able to have different handlers) REDIRECT_URL properly set during a 404 events CGI directory level access control works with mailman there are probably other things that would be nice but I'll probably find them out when I try to use it. I have already tried and failed with lighttpd. it fails on the REDIRECT_URL test as well as rather difficult workarounds for server name aliases. so I would welcome suggestions about alternative Web servers that are reasonably alive. ---eric I've heard that roxen has a nice http server. Give it a try and give some feedback if it turns out to be good. adress: http://www.roxen.com/products/webserver/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backup /restore
On Friday 06 May 2005 12:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Om going to change my server to a raid 1 today. I will use the live cd for setting up the raid, but i'm going to backup it and when the miror is created then i will restore it. I have two options, backup with tar to my tape drive and tar to a disk, are there special things i must keep in mind ? I know two backups are always better. well, if it is a good tape drive, I would prefer it - I never saw a tape drive dying, but a handfull of hard disks... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] rlogin ebuild
Is there an ebuild available for rlogin? I haven't been able to find one using emerge --search or equery. What am I missing? Thanks in advance, Shaw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Advansys SCSI Not Available on 2005.0 LiveCD
I've used FreeBSD for about 4 years but am new to Linux. After starting with Fedora Core 3 two weeks ago, I quickly learned about rpm hell once I built a custom kernel to support my hardware. I missed the ports system with which I was familiar in FreeBSD. Several people suggested Gentoo might be a better distro for what I wanted so I checked out the site and liked what I saw. So no I have a minimal 2005.0 LiveCD booted and am logged in via ssh. I'm following the installation handbook section 4 regarding partitioning. However I don't seem to have my SCSI drives available. I have 3 drives in the system as follows: 160 GB IDE drive attached to the PATA (or IDE) connector on a Promise 150 SATA controller. 18 GB SCSI drive attached to an Advansys card 36 GB SCSI drive attached to an Advansys card The only device I seem to have is /dev/sda1 which fdisk reports as a 163 GB drive. So I assume that this is my IDE drive seen as a SCSI device because it's attached to the Promise SATA controller? And if my assumption is correct, how can I enable the Advansys controller? If possible, I'd prefer to do it without rebooting because I won't be near the console for about 7 more hours. I'm at work. System is at home. Thanks for any advice or suggestions, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for alternatives to Apache
Panos Laganakos wrote: Eric S. Johansson wrote: I've heard that roxen has a nice http server. Give it a try and give some feedback if it turns out to be good. having looked at it, it strikes me is being almost as complex as Apache and it's not something I feel comfortable with. I will look further but I'm not feeling hopeful about this one. ---eric -- http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/view.html?pg=5 The result of the duopoly that currently defines competition is that prices and service suck. We're the world's leader in Internet technology - except that we're not. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rlogin ebuild
On Friday 06 May 2005 11:06 am, Beber [Gentoo] wrote: yes, It's includ in net-misc/netkit-rsh ;) Thanks for the tip. Any tips about how one might go about finding the package that contains a certain file when emerge --search and equery belongs fail to find anything? Shaw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]big partition
I heard lot of urban legend about flying away data from reiser3 4. I can never validate whether was FS, or user error, but some performance dropback for stability is more than acceptable for me. I'd vote for urban legend/user error. I've always used ReiserFS on machines and have never had any data loss problems at all. I used to develop home, but I haven't got enough money for UPS, and two HDD with mirroring. I used to create backups every month, but it gives just a minimal safety. Hrm. You near the SF Bay Area? I have a couple APC 350 UPS units (small, but useful) that are cluttering up my apartment. :P -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] The 2005.0 LiveCD hates me! :'(
OK. I just booted into Windows right now. This is the 5th time I've tried to install Gentoo from the 2005.0 LiveCD and have failed. Now, before you make any comments about anything... I've installed Gentoo from the 2004.3 LiveCD and had used it for over a month. IIRC, in my second attempt, I got it working fine with 2004.3. Anyways... Firstly, I managed to boot into the installed system once, but stuff like KDE failed to emerge. After that, I had to switch the hard disk, so I chose to reinstall anyways. Also, when in the chrooted environment, after compiling and installing the kernel and nvidia-kernel, nano breaks up. When I say nano -w /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6, the console gets garbled and I have to use Alt+SysRq+e to get back to the prompt! Also, I have this problem with netmount trying to start (and failing) during boot up that I haven't found an answer to... All in all, I'm completely frustrated and pissed off. Now, I'm looking for alternatives. Maybe I can install from the 2004.3 LiveCD but I'm using LVM2 and I don't think the 2004.3 LiveCD supports it. Someone (sorry I don't remember the name) suggested to me in #gentoo that it has LVM1... So can someone please tell me how I can accomplish an installation with LVM2? Also, can I install 2005.0 using the Knoppix CD? I think Knoppix supports LVM2... right? Guys, I seriously need ideas... I can't afford to waste too much time trying to install Gentoo... But I certainly don't want to move back to those rpm based distros... Faithfully, Mrugesh Karnik -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] test
On Sat, 7 May 2005 04:30:14 +0800 Jan Han Xie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sorry but it seems my post won't appear in the list... This is a test post. -- Computer Science Engineering Department, College of Computer Science, Zhejiang University, Hangzhou, China I got it. -- Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpeOLWCqKZ42.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] test
Jan Han Xie wrote: Hi, Sorry but it seems my post won't appear in the list... This is a test post. I got the email... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for alternatives to Apache
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 06 May 2005 14:15:03 -0400 Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. | the web site and the documentation | isn't apparently there. Uh, yeah, the docs aren't one of cherokee's strong points :) the same is true Apache except they have lots of documentation that doesn't really say a whole lot. ;-) ---eric -- http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/view.html?pg=5 The result of the duopoly that currently defines competition is that prices and service suck. We're the world's leader in Internet technology - except that we're not. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are my emails reaching the list?
On Saturday 07 May 2005 04:21, Mrugesh Karnik wrote: I've sent a few emails recently... I'm wondering if they're reaching the list... Somehow Thunderbird/Gmail doesn't show me my own emails... Please reply if you get this email. Thank You. Mrugesh Karnik Yes. Seems the gmail's problem. -- Computer Science Engineering Department, College of Computer Science, Zhejiang University, Hangzhou, China pgpH2tiaSibKe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Are my emails reaching the list?
Once I got an email from the gentoo-user list manager saying that it failed to deliver a message from the list to my G-Mail account. So far, it's just been once. What's going on? Does G-Mail have serious issues to resolve? I haven't had complaints from any one of my friends about not being able to send me mail, but I am just curious... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] test
Gmail will not send you your own messages. It's both smart and annoying. On 5/6/05, Jan Han Xie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 May 2005 04:37, Tom Wesley wrote: On Sat, 7 May 2005 04:30:14 +0800 Jan Han Xie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sorry but it seems my post won't appear in the list... This is a test post. -- Computer Science Engineering Department, College of Computer Science, Zhejiang University, Hangzhou, China I got it. Damn it. I haven't received my test post yet in my gmail box. It seems the gmail's problem... -- Computer Science Engineering Department, College of Computer Science, Zhejiang University, Hangzhou, China -- Steven Susbauer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The 2005.0 LiveCD hates me! :'(
Also, can I install 2005.0 using the Knoppix CD? I think Knoppix supports LVM2... right? Yeah, you sure can. it's actually fairly easy, and the documentation is on the gentoo.org website. I just did a Knoppix installation a few weeks ago because the 2005.0 CD stuff wouldn't see my (not so old, but whatever..) MegaRAID Enterprise 1500 RAID controller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] - BIOS after Gentoo is up
Norbert Kamenicky noro at xmedia.sk writes: Yes, I many times removed BIOS extension chips (not needed during kernel boot) from different cards, just to boot faster... if it's not easy, there is always a possibility to cut chip select/ enable (CS/CE) wire near to chip's pin. OK Linux kernel runs in 32-bit protected mode, but AFAIK nearly all BIOSes are written for 16-bit real mode and stored in 8-bit *ROMs (very slow access). This makes it nearly unusable under linux kernel. Yes, but there is often information in the bios that is needed for certain features, or features between chips/interfaces/busses. If u are on doubt, linux kernel uses (or not) BIOS calls for ACPI, I2C, sensors, SMBus, Dallas one-wire etc., please open appropriate driver in kernel sources and check it yourself... and let me know, if u find some driver, which uses them. I agree with all you have said. But, that's not the entire story. Often features that work on WinBlows(*) do not work on Linux, regardless of the software and drivers... Wonder why? Often it's secret or at least partially is in bios. Seemingling insignificant information in the bios, is actually critical for key features in chips/interfaces/busses... Furthermore, much of the newer bios is in an executable or other obscure form. If you look at the Datasheets for some a given chip, you can see lots of features. Newer BIOS often contain 'keys' (implemented in a variety of methods) to activate key features in chipsets and thus in WinBlows software. Take a look at the Richard Stallman rant: http://www.fsf.org/news/freebios.html I have not disagreed with what has been said. I'm just pointing out that there's much more to the bios/hidden-firmware issues than most are aware of. This is often why vendors do not want their driver code published. They are up to things that they do not want the linux community to highlight, for the masses of blissfully unaware folks. later, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are my emails reaching the list?
On 5/6/05, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once I got an email from the gentoo-user list manager saying that it failed to deliver a message from the list to my G-Mail account. So far, it's just been once. What's going on? Does G-Mail have serious issues to resolve? I haven't had complaints from any one of my friends about not being able to send me mail, but I am just curious... I have this all the time, and from real people too (ie not lists). I regularly get messages saying that a mail server has been trying for a day to get to me etc... I am not going to throw it away, but the 1 gig I now get from yahoo is looking enticing... Cheers Antoine -- G System, The Evolving GUniverse - http://www.g-system.at -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are my emails reaching the list?
I have this all the time, and from real people too (ie not lists). I regularly get messages saying that a mail server has been trying for a day to get to me etc... Hm, that isn't good. Makes me wonder if I missed any emails from people. I wasn't aware of this until recently. Hotmail had this weird problem where the emails I'd send wouldn't be delivered to people (even who were on Hotmail also) over the course of a day or two or in some cases not delivered at all. Yahoo, curiously, seems to have been the most reliable out of the free webmails I've used so far. GMail doesn't have any graphic banner ads, which makes it cleaner, more pleasant, and more importantly, light on the resources used. But if it misses emails, that is an issue. Those guys got some work to do. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The 2005.0 LiveCD hates me! :'(
* On Sat May-07-2005 at 01:04:17 AM +0530, Mrugesh Karnik said: [...] All in all, I'm completely frustrated and pissed off. Now, I'm looking for alternatives. Maybe I can install from the 2004.3 LiveCD but I'm using LVM2 and I don't think the 2004.3 LiveCD supports it. I've installed Gentoo with LVM2 (before 2 days ago when I used 2005.0). Don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure it was using a 2004.1 LiveCD, so I would be very surprised to hear that 2004.3 is using LVM1. Guys, I seriously need ideas... I can't afford to waste too much time trying to install Gentoo... But I certainly don't want to move back to those rpm based distros... Far from a waste of time, believe you me! Not trying to shoo you away, but there is more out there than Gentoo and RPM-based distros, if that's what you're looking for. Much more. Slackware springs to mind (first Linux distro I ever used, it is a great distro). There is also Debian. I haven't used it and cannot comment further on it. I'm sure that a bunch of people here will have some colourful thoughts though. [Heh, I almost brought up a quote from Ciaran and used it here but remembering all the fuss last time I thought better of it. Something about SUVs and shotguns... :) ] -- Sami Samhuri pgpVg7v3k18hc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Advansys SCSI Not Available on 2005.0 LiveCD
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Drew Tomlinson wrote: So no I have a minimal 2005.0 LiveCD booted and am logged in via ssh. I'm following the installation handbook section 4 regarding partitioning. However I don't seem to have my SCSI drives available. I have 3 drives in the system as follows: 160 GB IDE drive attached to the PATA (or IDE) connector on a Promise 150 SATA controller. 18 GB SCSI drive attached to an Advansys card 36 GB SCSI drive attached to an Advansys card The only device I seem to have is /dev/sda1 which fdisk reports as a 163 GB drive. So I assume that this is my IDE drive seen as a SCSI device because it's attached to the Promise SATA controller? Probably. And if my assumption is correct, how can I enable the Advansys controller? If possible, I'd prefer to do it without rebooting because I won't be near the console for about 7 more hours. I'm at work. System is at home. Try modprobe advansys to load the driver... -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] test
That's right. When I send a message with a new subject to the list, GMail saves the message to a new thread that it starts in my Sent-Mail folder with that subject line. I do not get an email from the list sending me my own message. Then, if someone replies to my post, GMail adds the message to the thread started in the Sent-Mail folder and migrates it to the Inbox. It's kind of weird. Avoid being redundant but doesn't confirm that the list got your message either. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] installing big qmail server ... where to start?
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: One more question: should I use a meta-package like vpopmail, or would a plain qmail+mysql (maybe with a custom admin webinterface) be enough? Its a matter of preference. If you use something like vpopmail, email will be stored under /home/vpopmail/domains in separate trees for each domain. We use qmailadmin to manage domain accounts from as web browser. Quotas have been implemented using maildir++. If you dont have lots of virtual domains (we do), then this might be overkill for you, but having all the email in place is useful. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pcimodules
Mike Williams wrote: -snip- (I need to know what module(s) are required for the ethernet adaptor). -snip- Let me know, if I identified your question properly! :-) If u doesn't know, which chipset is used on your eth card, run # lspci | grep Eth and learn it. This info should be enough to configure your kernel properly. noro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
The problem with this will be getting *all* the email readers updated with this *entire* feature, -and- getting everyone to update to said newer versions *or* programs if/When! -their- favorite didn't get updated for this. That said, it sounds like a FINE idea to me. Now, where'd I put that blamed crowbar? rgh. Calvin Spealman wrote: I know I said I was out of this conversation, but this off the original topic so I want to make myself clear on what I actually meant here. E-mails have unique identifiers, and replies include information in the header as to the identifier(s) of the original messages. Thus, if you have the messages (or access to a service archiving them) you could reconstruct the entire thread from just a single message. A protocol or format could even be created to designate where and how other messages are quoted, without actually including the content. This would be especially useful for very large messages and replying to multiple messages at once. Always there is room to move forward, so find the door that need's unlocked and break it down. On 5/5/05, Robert G. Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Calvin Spealman wrote: snip it isn't like the bandwidth is anything at all compared to the bloated headers and redundant repeating of messages in every reply. snip -- is a good way to control redundancy factor And sometimes someone skips the original(s), and the later msgs become interesting, and someone needs to catch up. Sigh, no soution is ever perfect. rgh. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pcimodules
On Friday 06 May 2005 22:54, Norbert Kamenicky wrote: Let me know, if I identified your question properly! :-):-) If u doesn't know, which chipset is used on your eth card, run # lspci | grep Eth and learn it. This info should be enough to configure your kernel properly. Unfortunantly my requirement is a little more complex than that :) This is for an fully automated install routine. -- Mike Williams pgpxNUYWu7XqJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Advansys SCSI Not Available on 2005.0 LiveCD
On 5/6/2005 2:43 PM A. Khattri wrote: On Fri, 6 May 2005, Drew Tomlinson wrote: So no I have a minimal 2005.0 LiveCD booted and am logged in via ssh. I'm following the installation handbook section 4 regarding partitioning. However I don't seem to have my SCSI drives available. I have 3 drives in the system as follows: 160 GB IDE drive attached to the PATA (or IDE) connector on a Promise 150 SATA controller. 18 GB SCSI drive attached to an Advansys card 36 GB SCSI drive attached to an Advansys card The only device I seem to have is /dev/sda1 which fdisk reports as a 163 GB drive. So I assume that this is my IDE drive seen as a SCSI device because it's attached to the Promise SATA controller? Probably. And if my assumption is correct, how can I enable the Advansys controller? If possible, I'd prefer to do it without rebooting because I won't be near the console for about 7 more hours. I'm at work. System is at home. Try modprobe advansys to load the driver... Thanks for the reply. However been there, done that. :) It seems the advansys.ko is not on the 2005.0 CD. Maybe it's on an older one? And if so, which? Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advansys SCSI Not Available on 2005.0 LiveCD
On 5/6/2005 2:49 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 5/6/2005 10:39 AM Drew Tomlinson wrote: I've used FreeBSD for about 4 years but am new to Linux. After starting with Fedora Core 3 two weeks ago, I quickly learned about rpm hell once I built a custom kernel to support my hardware. I missed the ports system with which I was familiar in FreeBSD. Several people suggested Gentoo might be a better distro for what I wanted so I checked out the site and liked what I saw. So no I have a minimal 2005.0 LiveCD booted and am logged in via ssh. I'm following the installation handbook section 4 regarding partitioning. However I don't seem to have my SCSI drives available. I have 3 drives in the system as follows: 160 GB IDE drive attached to the PATA (or IDE) connector on a Promise 150 SATA controller. 18 GB SCSI drive attached to an Advansys card 36 GB SCSI drive attached to an Advansys card The only device I seem to have is /dev/sda1 which fdisk reports as a 163 GB drive. So I assume that this is my IDE drive seen as a SCSI device because it's attached to the Promise SATA controller? And if my assumption is correct, how can I enable the Advansys controller? If possible, I'd prefer to do it without rebooting because I won't be near the console for about 7 more hours. I'm at work. System is at home. After spending most of the day Googling, it appears that I need a file called advansys.ko (that has been compiled appropriately) in /mnt/livecd/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r3/kernel/drivers/scsi. Then I could load it with 'modprobe advansys'. Is this correct? If it is, can anyone tell me if the advansys module is available on older installation CDs? There is some indication that it used to exist. Also, I have an advansys driver disk I downloaded which worked when installing Fedora Core 3. I was able to extract the modules.cgz file on it and found an advansys.ko module that appears to have been compiled for kernel 2.6.9, judging from the directory structure. Any ideas on if this might work? I've tried loading it via wget but all the mounted file systems are read-only. I guess I might have to dig up a floppy drive and install it... I'm starting to feel like I'm talking to myself. :) Seriously, I keep replying for the benefit of some other poor soul who may have the same problems I'm having. I finally figured out that when the livecd is booted, /tmp is writable. Thus I managed to copy the advansys.ko file I have to /tmp. But alas, modprobe doesn't see it because it's not in the normal module path. Ah, but more reading tells me that modprobe is the smart wrapper. insmod is the actual command that inserts the module. So I try 'insmod advansys.ko' but get: insmod: error inserting 'advansys.ko': -1 Invalid module format So is this because the module really won't work with Gentoo 2005.0? Or does this have something to do with 'depmod'. I'm beginning to think that what I'm trying to do isn't possible, short of installing on my IDE drive and then building my own LiveCD with all the required parts. I can't believe it's supposed to be this hard. I must be missing the obvious. Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Basic ebuild question
On Sat, 7 May 2005 01:23:04 +0200 krzaq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| If src_install ( ) is simply
| make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
| then i have to emerge it with -sandbox. Otherwise it dies on access
| voliation when trying
| to install the python part. This is understandable, since it tires to
| write to /usr/.. directly.
|
| Is there a nice way to get the python part installed thru
| distutils_src_install ( ) ?
Are there separate make install targets for the c++ parts and the python
parts? If not, you're probably screwed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] test
That's right. When I send a message with a new subject to the list, GMail saves the message to a new thread that it starts in my Sent-Mail folder with that subject line. I do not get an email from the list sending me my own message. Then, if someone replies to my post, GMail adds the message to the thread started in the Sent-Mail folder and migrates it to the Inbox. It's kind of weird. Avoid being redundant but doesn't confirm that the list got your message either. If you have labels and filters set up, it will appear filed under the label for the list and what-not. Then I usually star it and it can come up in the inbox starred when I get a reply... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] PHP rocks! Knowledge is Power. Power Corrupts. Go to school, become evil Disclaimer: Any disclaimer attached to this message may be ignored. However, I must say that the ENTIRE contents of this message are subject to other's criticism, corrections, and speculations. This message is Certified Virus Free -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Basic ebuild question
On 5/7/05, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 7 May 2005 01:23:04 +0200 krzaq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| If src_install ( ) is simply
| make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
| then i have to emerge it with -sandbox. Otherwise it dies on access
| voliation when trying
| to install the python part. This is understandable, since it tires to
| write to /usr/.. directly.
|
| Is there a nice way to get the python part installed thru
| distutils_src_install ( ) ?
Are there separate make install targets for the c++ parts and the python
parts? If not, you're probably screwed.
There are separate targets so it's doable the hard way.
The thing is ... well ... it's ugly.
I commented the line:
make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
and uncommented the:
einstall || die
and it works flawlessly. The ebuild HOWTO tells to use the first one in favor of
the second one. Why doesn't einstall fail with acces violation?
Im not very comfortable with all gentoo magic yet 'casue this is my
second ebuild.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Basic ebuild question
On Sat, 7 May 2005 02:25:40 +0200 krzaq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I commented the line:
|make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
| and uncommented the:
|einstall || die
|
| and it works flawlessly. The ebuild HOWTO tells to use the first one
| in favor of the second one. Why doesn't einstall fail with acces
| violation?
einstall does some extra magic. You can read it in /usr/sbin/ebuild.sh
if you want the details. Anyway, if it actually works (which I wasn't
expecting from your description, but oh well), use einstall, with a
comment saying that regular make won't work.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Basic ebuild question
On 5/7/05, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 7 May 2005 02:25:40 +0200 krzaq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I commented the line:
|make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
| and uncommented the:
|einstall || die
|
| and it works flawlessly. The ebuild HOWTO tells to use the first one
| in favor of the second one. Why doesn't einstall fail with acces
| violation?
einstall does some extra magic. You can read it in /usr/sbin/ebuild.sh
if you want the details. Anyway, if it actually works (which I wasn't
expecting from your description, but oh well), use einstall, with a
well my Enlgish suxx, but hey , what you're gonna do ...
comment saying that regular make won't work.
I think it must be the libdir setting in EXTRA_EINSTALL.
The important bottom line -- it works!
Thanks for the help!
Case closed.
It's 2.50 AM, time to powerdown and go get some sleep.
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Re: [gentoo-user] rlogin ebuild
On 5/6/05, Shaw Vrana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rlogin might not be right for you, but it's just fine for my needs. Please don't try to force *your* security requirements on other people. :P Hey, it's just an advice. After all, there is nothing in rlogin that ssh can't do, so why bother with rlogin? -- Bruno Lustosa, aka Lofofora | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator/Web Programmer | ICQ: 1406477 Rio de Janeiro - Brazil | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] editing USE flags
What do you use to edit USE flags? I used to use ufed, but now the interface is so heavy because there are almost 1000 local use flags. All I really want is to edit the 300-odd global use flags without having to sift through so many flags.. Or do I just have to look through use.desc and update them manually? - O -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
