Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] emerge kde
* Mark M. Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06/05/01 15:44 -0700]: About how many days does it take to emerge kde on a beige G3 233mhz desktop? It’s been going 3 days, and it’s still on package 44 of 80 … …long… It even takes about 2 to 3 days on a G4 1GHz. Why don't you use the pre-compiled G3-packages on the packages-CD? Regards, Lars PS: More RAM will speed up the process. -- Lars Weiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-1963258 Gentoo Linux PowerPC: Strategical Lead and Release Engineer Gentoo Infrastructure : CVS Administrator Gentoo Foundation : Trustee -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-ppc-user] emerge kde
I've never downloaded the packages cd. I guess I should do that! Thanks! Mark M. Hart -Original Message- From: Lars Weiler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:17 PM To: gentoo-ppc-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] emerge kde * Mark M. Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06/05/01 15:44 -0700]: About how many days does it take to emerge kde on a beige G3 233mhz desktop? It’s been going 3 days, and it’s still on package 44 of 80 … …long… It even takes about 2 to 3 days on a G4 1GHz. Why don't you use the pre-compiled G3-packages on the packages-CD? Regards, Lars PS: More RAM will speed up the process. -- Lars Weiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-1963258 Gentoo Linux PowerPC: Strategical Lead and Release Engineer Gentoo Infrastructure : CVS Administrator Gentoo Foundation : Trustee -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-ppc-user] OF device trees needed for work on Windfarm thermal drivers
Apologies for the cross posting, but I wanted to reach both audiences of PPC. I'm working on the windfarm thermal drivers, trying to support: - absolutely all of the sensors available - write windfarm modules for as-yet unported or unwritten machines (Current list is PowerMac3,6 PowerMac7,2, PowerMac12,1). I only have a PowerMac11,2 myself, but I'm making reasonable progress so far. I do however need the device trees from the machines to get stuff cleaned up and do my own reasonable validation that it will work before actually testing it on the hardware. I'm looking for the /proc/device-tree/ data for the following machines: PowerMac3,6 PowerMac8,1 PowerMac8,2 PowerMac9,1 RackMac3,1 (check in /proc/cpuinfo if you need to know what your machine is). I already have the trees for: PowerBook4,3 PowerMac11,2 PowerMac12,1 PowerMac7,2 PowerMac7,3 If your machine is in neither of the two above lists, but is still G4 or newer (iBook/PowerBook/PowerMac/iMac), I'd appreciate your device tree as well, to see if windfarm is perhaps usable on your hardware. There is a potential question of legality of having this data in some parts of the world, so I'd like the tarballs to me mailed to me directly, and not posted to the lists. -- Robin Hugh Johnson E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 pgpn4Tw1FRJy3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 08:47 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: wu chuanwen wrote: 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when you run emerge -vpt mozilla-firefox I get this: [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2 [1.5.0.1-r4] USE=gnome ipv6 -debug -java -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint 37 kB Do you really need ipv6? I doubt that this has anything to do with the problem at hand, but if you don't need it, you should remove it. If you don't know anything about ipv6, it's very probable that you don't need it. IPV6 is a protocol Yep. that is (AFAIK) just a layer below TCP/IP. Wrong. Besides: just a layer below TCP/IP makes no sense. TCP/IP is a protocol family. Two of those members are IPv4 and IPv6. Now, what's just a layer below TCP/IP supposed to mean? I wouldn't remove it if I were you. Why not? Why leave in things, which are not needed and which are known to possibly cause problems? Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager. I don't see how that would help anything. It would help, if the problem is on his side, caused by bad settings in his profile. If everything's faster with a blank profile, he knows for sure, that the problems were caused by his old profile. Alexander Skwar -- It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Graham Murray wrote: Nich Steicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, this is simply wrong - IPV6 is the next generation protocol we are currently using IPV4 - why IPV6 is a default build flag i would have no idea, as from what i can see, it will be a good while before IPV6 actually becomes implemented. IPv6 is already implemented. Certainly. But this still doesn't answer, why it is a default build flag? As it is right now, only a minority of users is able to use IPv6. Why aren't other minority USE Flags enabled? It makes no sense to have IPv6 enabled for everyone. Alexander Skwar -- Well, if you can't believe what you read in a comic book, what *can* you believe?! -- Bullwinkle J. Moose -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 05:59 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: wu chuanwen wrote: Not really. You most likely either have a faster machine Celeron M Notebook with 1.5 GHz. Not what I'd call fast :) And 768M ram. or have already tweaked yours. No. Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager. This is something like the third time you've suggested this. You counted? :) Please explain how this will help. I'm serious: I don't see how this could help. My assumption: Problem is caused by bad settings, which includes extensions or themes. If problem goes away with a new/blank profile, we know where the problem is. Further, it's a way of working/debugging - you reset everything to a known working set of things, which is the blank profile. After that, you re-add things, until it breaks again. As soon as it breaks, you've got your culprit. Alexander Skwar -- Oh, wow! Look at the moon! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 01:11 pm, Jeff Rollin wrote: I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it improves the speed of KDE applications too So, can you please tell me how to do this? Please read the manual. It explains how to set something like this. make.conf is the appropriate file. Alexander Skwar -- No line available at 300 baud. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 May 2006 07:55 am, Justin Patrin wrote: On 4/30/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kesara Rathnayake wrote: PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. It may default to HTML now, as do Yahoo and Hotmail, but it's an easy thing to turn off. I'm still using gmail in text-only mode. It doesn't default to HTML. Yes, it does. Why do you think, that close to all the gmail users are sending out HTML mails? It defaults to RTF, No, it doesn't. It doesn't even send out RTF. It's either HTML or plain text, what you can compose on gmail. and even then you can change that. Sure, no doubt about that. I fail to understand though, why GMail sends out HTML, if there's no formatting in the mail, which would require HTML. IMO, it should behave like Mozilla: If you compose a mail in the HTML coposer and the mail has no HTML elements, a text/plain will be created. THAT is the proper way to go. (I hate HTML mailand I hate Outlook even more.) Outlook and Outlook Express are the two worst mail clients in the universe. They are not. Lotus Notes beats them to that. They're too slow Not really. and bloated to do anything, and they don't accept ANYTHING other than MS Exchange server Wrt. Outlook Express, that's plain wrong. And wrt. Outlook: It's wrong as well. Outlook CAN interface IMAP servers. But you'll lose all the benefits of Outlook in this case. Alexander Skwar -- BOFH Excuse #95: Pentium FDIV bug -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 11:21 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: Kesara Rathnayake wrote: I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we used today. To find out, I asked OP to create a blank profile. I also assume a local problem at his side. OP should simply create a new profile and report back. Alexander Skwar PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. I used the GMail web interface for a long time and it defaulted to plain text for me. This might be correct. However on new accounts, HTML is used. If you don't believe me, simply create a new account, and you'll see. If I changed to rich-text the next time it'd default to RTF. No, it most certainly did not. Who accepts RTF? I changed it to plain-text and then it defaulted the next time to (you guessed it) plain text. Yep. This means, it accepts your user settings, but it doesn't say anything about the defaults. I don't know what you're complaining about. I complain about HTML mails and about the fact, that Gmail defaults to HTML mails, despite what you're writing. Perhaps you tried it at a time when they hadn't yet corrected that bug? What bug? The bug, that the default is, that HTML mails are composed? Actually, I don't think it is a bug - I rather think, it's a business decision. It's still in the beta stage, you know. As if anything on Google is NOT in beta... Another thing that sucks, is that HTML mails are permitted on this list. Why not just dump the HTML part (and every other attachment)? Why not, Makes mails larger, without adding anything useful (normally). Further, it makes mails a bit harder to read and harder to quote. eg. the mail which I quoted: In HTML, it's about 1179 bytes. In text/plain, it is 729 bytes. And actually, the HTML caused overhead is even more, as the 2nd MIME part (the HTML part) caused additional headers to be added. Those are an additional 378 bytes. So, in this case, we've got a mail of (at least) 2286 bytes, where 729 bytes would have been sufficient. if it irks you so much, make a script that will change RTF/HTML to Plaintext? That's not a useful advice. I'd have to accept the (normally) uselessly bloated mail first and then strip it. Makes no sense. It wouldn't be terribly difficult... Depends. Alexander Skwar -- We seldom repent talking too little, but very often talking too much. -- Jean de la Bruyere -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) So I went through all those different USE flags, and added ones I knew I could add without anything blowing up. This is what I get: # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically built this stage # Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example #CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe CFLAGS=-march=i686 -O2 -pipe I'd suggest CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden MAKEOPTS= MAKEOPTS=-j2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS= If you wish to have latest packages, change ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86, it might make your system a bit unstable but going through my experience it has not broken a thing in my system. Also if you wish add these lines to /etc/make.conf LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,-z,now,--sort-common USE= X a52 aac alsa apache2 acpi arts audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdr cli crypt ctype cups dba eds directfb doc dri dvd dvdread elibc_glibc emboss encode esd ethereal exif expat fam fastbuild foomaticdb force-cgi-redirect fortran ftp gd gcj gdbm gif glut gmp gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml guile hal hardened idn imlib ipv6 jpeg java javascript kde kdexdeltas kernel_linux lcms libg++ libwww mad memlimit mikmod mhash mng motif mozilla mime mmx mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png posix python qt quicktime readline samba sdl session simplexml slang soap sockets spell spl ssl sse sse2 svg tcltk tcpd tiff tokenizer truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts usb udev userland_GNU vorbis x86 xml xml2 xmms xsl xv zlib Do you really need all these USE flags and features? I think not.. Add USE flags that really are useful not add them just because they might become useful sometime.. The more features you have in your packages, the slower and more memory hungry they are.. Take a look at my USE flags.. USE=-X -arts -apache2 -berkdb -cups -dri -eds -esd -gdbm -gnome -gstreamer -gtk -gpm -xmms 3dnow acl bash-completion bzip2 fbcon hal lzo mbox mmx nsplugin nvidia offensive sse svga tiff urandom -X because I don't every application to be built with X support, -arts because of the same reason.. The applications that i think will need X support I add a line like this to /etc/portage/package.use media-libs/imlib2 X Also if i need to remove some support from packages, i add line like this to /etc/portage/package.use www-client/links -jpeg -png -sdl -svga -tiff I also don't suggest hardened USE flag.. You most certainly don't need them.. Trust me.. Add these lines to /etc/make.conf to further fine tune tour system.. VIDEO_CARDS=your video card #like nvidia, ati INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse #add anything extra you've Remember, always add the minimum USE flags you need to /etc/make.conf, you should always tune your system to specific packages by adding USE flags to be used for the specific package to /etc/portage/package.use (snip) Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpLHvA0x9teU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problems with skype
Jer?nimo Backes wrote: (snip) Any other suggestions? I'm using skype with KDE and kernel-2.6.16-x.. I don't have arts support in any kde application and still skype runs fine.. Anyway i suggest you try WengoPhone.. It's open source and is based upon open standards.. I'm using it, the sound quality is better than Skype.. Check out their website http://openwengo.org.. Gentoo even has a ebuild for it in portage (net-im/wengophone).. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpYNkWUgW4Cg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote: CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell others to use it. If you want to use it. Fine. But do not tell anybody else to do it. MAKEOPTS= MAKEOPTS=-j2 -j1 is a good one for singlecore/single cpu computer, where the compiling is running in the background. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS= Also if you wish add these lines to /etc/make.conf LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,-z,now,--sort-common are you totally sure, that this do not break something? do this flags bring anything, that can not be archived with prelink? Again, you might want to use them, but you should not tell somebody else to use them.- USE= X a52 aac alsa apache2 acpi arts audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdr cli crypt ctype cups dba eds directfb doc dri dvd dvdread elibc_glibc emboss encode esd ethereal exif expat fam fastbuild foomaticdb force-cgi-redirect fortran ftp gd gcj gdbm gif glut gmp gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml guile hal hardened idn imlib ipv6 jpeg java javascript kde kdexdeltas kernel_linux lcms libg++ libwww mad memlimit mikmod mhash mng motif mozilla mime mmx mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png posix python qt quicktime readline samba sdl session simplexml slang soap sockets spell spl ssl sse sse2 svg tcltk tcpd tiff tokenizer truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts usb udev userland_GNU vorbis x86 xml xml2 xmms xsl xv zlib Do you really need all these USE flags and features? I think not.. Add USE flags that really are useful not add them just because they might become useful sometime.. The more features you have in your packages, the slower and more memory hungry they are.. Take a look at my USE flags.. you think - but you don't know what he wants and needs. btw, I would emerge ufed and work down the list USE=-X -arts -apache2 -berkdb -cups -dri -eds -esd -gdbm -gnome -gstreamer -gtk -gpm -xmms 3dnow acl bash-completion bzip2 fbcon hal lzo mbox mmx nsplugin nvidia offensive sse svga tiff urandom -X because I don't every application to be built with X support, -arts because of the same reason.. The applications that i think will need X support I add a line like this to /etc/portage/package.use so you want to break douzends of packages for him? Why? -dri? Maybe he needs it? fbcon? Why? who needs it? You are telling him to deactivate usefull stuff and activate useless? Great! VIDEO_CARDS=your video card #like nvidia, ati that is not needed anymore. Look into the use descriptions. Or even better, get familiar with ufed. Remember, always add the minimum USE flags you need to /etc/make.conf, you should always tune your system to specific packages by adding USE flags to be used for the specific package to /etc/portage/package.use oh, yeah, increase the work and risk subtle breakage here and there -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problems with skype
Anyway i suggest you try WengoPhone.. It's open source and is based upon open standards.. I'm using it, the sound quality is better than Skype.. Check out their website http://openwengo.org.. Gentoo even has a ebuild for it in portage (net-im/wengophone).. Farhan Ahmed Thanks a lot for your suggestion. But unfortunately, that package is masked. The ebuild says *missing keyword* for my AMD64. Well, I think I'll give a try to something else for now. What other alternatives (with voip support, of course) can I try? ___ Novidade no Yahoo! Mail: receba alertas de novas mensagens no seu celular. Registre seu aparelho agora! http://br.mobile.yahoo.com/mailalertas/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: is there any reason not to try drver version 8756? 6629 is very old. very, very old. Even older. It is old. As I said, all other available versions in portage didn't compile or load afterwards. Only one version (other than 6629, one of the 1.0.7...) did both successfully but crashed when starting X. If the problem is still there, I would try vanilla kernel. I'm not going to, since I believe I would be missing a lot of these gentoo-patches. Anyway to me it seems that the nvidia-kernel ebuild needs improvement (patching the stuff about remap_page_range and pci_find_class). Sigi -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] I can't get my wengophone account
Hi all, I just emerged Wengophone. When I run Wengophone as user, I have to get my first Wengo account. A new window is opening with : You don't have a Wengo account ? Click here. Problem, the link does not work ! When I click on it, nothing happens ! What can I do ?? Thanks for your help, Regards, --- Jacques -- ^ ^^^ ^ ( 0 0 ) \/ ---- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources
is there any reason not to try drver version 8756? 6629 is very old. very, very old. Even older. It is old. As I said, all other available versions in portage didn't compile or load afterwards. Only one version (other than 6629, one of the 1.0.7...) did both successfully but crashed when starting X. I ran into the same problem after upgrading the kernel to gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3. And don't have any problems with most recent nvidia drivers: media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8756 media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.8756 media-video/nvidia-settings-1.0.20051122-r3 Did you rebuild nvidia-glx and all the dependencies? HTH, Sasha -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't get my wengophone account
On 12:24 Tue 02 May , Ptitjack wrote: Hi all, I just emerged Wengophone. When I run Wengophone as user, I have to get my first Wengo account. A new window is opening with : You don't have a Wengo account ? Click here. Problem, the link does not work ! When I click on it, nothing happens ! What can I do ?? Thanks for your help, What browswer do you have specified in preferred applications? (gnome-control-center) - that could be the problem. -- Join The no2id Coalition, http://www.no2id.net/ djm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't get my wengophone account
David Morgan a gentiment tapote: On 12:24 Tue 02 May , Ptitjack wrote: Hi all, I just emerged Wengophone. When I run Wengophone as user, I have to get my first Wengo account. A new window is opening with : You don't have a Wengo account ? Click here. Problem, the link does not work ! When I click on it, nothing happens ! What can I do ?? Thanks for your help, What browswer do you have specified in preferred applications? (gnome-control-center) - that could be the problem. I use Firefox-1.5, but i don't use gnome (XFCE4). Thanks --- Jacques -- ^ ^^^ ^ ( 0 0 ) \/ ---- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources
is there any reason not to try drver version 8756? 6629 is very old. very, very old. Even older. It is old. As I said, all other available versions in portage didn't compile or load afterwards. Only one version (other than 6629, one of the 1.0.7...) did both successfully but crashed when starting X. I ran into the same problem after upgrading the kernel to gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3. And don't have any problems with most recent nvidia drivers: media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8756 media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.8756 media-video/nvidia-settings-1.0.20051122-r3 Did you rebuild nvidia-glx and all the dependencies? Also you have to explicitly add the Modes you need to Display SubSection in /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you didn't already. As X doesn't build a pool of available modes with this newer driver and gets stuck in nvidia-auto-select mode: /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-1.0.8756/README.gz -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide
parent.sh #!/bin/bash do something /path/to/child.sh do something else When parent.sh receives a TERM signal, I would like child.sh to receive TERM also, and then parent.sh receive TERM. The do something else part is why I can't use exec /path/to/child.sh. Is there some way to achieve this? -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] soundcards inconsistent
Hi, Am Samstag, 29. April 2006 16:44 schrieb wu chuanwen: Hi! I don't konw why you need two soundcard! I just think that maybe one is enough.Once before I had two sound cards too,and at that time my gentoo can not have any sound(maybe not because i had two soundcards but the init script).Anyway, I just reset my bios,and mask my first soundcard which is in my board,and then the problem gone!Now everything is good! Maybe you can have a try if you don't need two soundcards! as I wrote, one of them is connected to 5.1-System, the other is connected to my big stereo-amp. I need them both, cause this are two totally independent setups in one machine :) Thanks anyways, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] soundcards inconsistent
Hi Mark, Am Samstag, 29. April 2006 18:26 schrieb Mark Knecht: 2006/4/19, Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SNIP Add the following two lines. Set the order which ever way you want. 0 will be your default card: options snd-ens1371 index=0 options snd-ice1712 index=1 options snd cards_limit=2 seems this solved my issues. No wrong sound-setup since I added this. I'll come back when the behaviour changes again :) Cheers, Mark thanks a lot, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, wu chuanwen wrote: Hi! Everybody! I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and even can not scroll up and down.Many peple have the same situation.Do you think so? And how can you solve this problem? Well, I recently switched to the binary version and to my surprise I found that it is much faster than the self compiled version. Especially the interface is much more responsive in the binary version. I don't know how it could be. Makes me really wonder where else I'm loosing speed on Gentoo... My USE flags for the compiled version were minimal and cflags should be optimal. I'd love to know how the binary version is built and if there are others who are experiencing the same phenomena. -- T.G. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 14:40, Jorge Almeida wrote: parent.sh #!/bin/bash do something /path/to/child.sh do something else When parent.sh receives a TERM signal, I would like child.sh to receive TERM also, and then parent.sh receive TERM. The do something else part is why I can't use exec /path/to/child.sh. Is there some way to achieve this? I think (untested) you can do something like trap 'kill pid of child' TERM at then beginning of parent.sh. This way, when the parent recives TERM it in turn sends a TERM to the child. If you want the parent to terminate, add the exit command as well: trap 'kill pid of child; exit 1' TERM (don't know how the parent can wait for termination of child, but it should be possible I think) man trap gives you the details. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
Hello all: I wanted to get some ideas from the list on how to clone a Gentoo box. Perhaps others on the list are interested as well. Thanks, RV -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
Ronald V. Vazquez wrote: Hello all: I wanted to get some ideas from the list on how to clone a Gentoo box. Perhaps others on the list are interested as well. Thanks, RV Do you mean to make one install then copy everything over to a new system? Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Ronald V. Vazquez wrote: Hello all: I wanted to get some ideas from the list on how to clone a Gentoo box. Perhaps others on the list are interested as well. Thanks, RV we've used 3 different ways: a program called systemimager (works great, but is made for redhat and getting it to work on gentoo was fairly non-trivial) what i call a stage 4, install the system, then make a tarball of the whole thing (requires a storage medium that can store huge files) partimage (stores each partition as a file) also requires a storage system that can take 2gb files of those, the systemimager is the only one you can really do a pxeboot and install from. but as I said, it requires some work and an infrastructure (including an image server and dhchp server you control) -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I think (untested) you can do something like trap 'kill pid of child' TERM at then beginning of parent.sh. This way, when the parent recives TERM it in turn sends a TERM to the child. If you want the parent to terminate, add the exit command as well: trap 'kill pid of child; exit 1' TERM But how to find out the PID of child? What would be convenient is a way to send signals recursively to a process and its children. Maybe I'm trying to solve a problem with wrong tools... Thanks, Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
Ronald Vincent Vazquez schrieb: Ronald V. Vazquez wrote: Hello all: I wanted to get some ideas from the list on how to clone a Gentoo box. Perhaps others on the list are interested as well. Thanks, RV Do you mean to make one install then copy everything over to a new system? Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Dale: Yes, let say that I install a machine with all my basic software and want to set up a second machine without having to reinstall. What technique would you use? RV after building my "final" system with bootloader and so on i start with a linux boot cd, mounting all my partitions for and exampel: /dev/hda1 - /mnt/gentoo/boot /dev/hda2 - /mnt/gentoo and so on mounting my usb-hdd to transfer the system to the second machine switch to the /mnt/gentoo directory tar -cvjf /mnt/my-usb-hdd/backup.bz2 * starting to drink some tee after this on the new computer making my partitions extracting all to the new hdd (tar -xvjf /mnt/my-usb-hdd/backup.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo) and adjusting the fstab and installing the boot loader that should work if the system is nearly the same like amd64 - amd64 or something like that
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
On 02 May 2006 14:18, Ronald V. Vazquez wrote: Hello all: I wanted to get some ideas from the list on how to clone a Gentoo box. Perhaps others on the list are interested as well. I simply tar up the whole box (except what I do not want like log files and such). After booting the other box from a liveCD, I mount the harddrive and untar everything to it. Uwe -- Why do consumers keep buying products they will live to curse? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problems with skype
Jerônimo Backes wrote: Anyway i suggest you try WengoPhone.. It's open source and is based upon open standards.. I'm using it, the sound quality is better than Skype.. Check out their website http://openwengo.org.. Gentoo even has a ebuild for it in portage (net-im/wengophone).. Farhan Ahmed Thanks a lot for your suggestion. But unfortunately, that package is masked. The ebuild says *missing keyword* for my AMD64. Well, I think I'll give a try to something else for now. What other alternatives (with voip support, of course) can I try? ___ Novidade no Yahoo! Mail: receba alertas de novas mensagens no seu celular. Registre seu aparelho agora! http://br.mobile.yahoo.com/mailalertas/ in your options, what /dev/dsp are you using? -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
What about quickpkg'ing all the installed packages and emerging them as binaries on the new system? I think if you copy your /etc to the new box first it should work just fine. I wonder if anyone has tried this. Anyways, this really depends on how much you want to clone the system, and how similar the hardware is on the systems. Do you want user files to be cloned, or just want to have the same packages installed without having to re-compile? On 5/2/06, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02 May 2006 14:18, Ronald V. Vazquez wrote: Hello all: I wanted to get some ideas from the list on how to clone a Gentoo box. Perhaps others on the list are interested as well. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
John Jolet wrote: partimage (stores each partition as a file) also requires a storage system that can take 2gb files I might be wrong, but I think you can make partimage split the files, can't you? Alexander Skwar -- Love is not enough, but it sure helps. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] (Linux) surveillance system?
Hello all. In the pursuit of a light physical security solution, I was wondering - does anyone recommend a small-time nanny-cam or web cam monitoring system that can run atop Linux and accessed using a web browser? We're looking to beef up physical security to our server room, but we don't have tons to spend. We'd like the design discreet and simple for the time being, until we can afford something huge. Just wondering. :-) -Jeff -- Emperor Palpatine: Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
Ronald Vincent Vazquez wrote: Do you mean to make one install then copy everything over to a new system? Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Dale: Yes, let say that I install a machine with all my basic software and want to set up a second machine without having to reinstall. What technique would you use? RV I usually put the drive in and mount them both, say /mnt/old/ and /mnt/new then do a cp -av /mnt/old/* /mnt/new/ then watch all the files scroll by. It has worked for me several times. This assumes that the two systems are pretty much identical though. You may have to make a new kernel if the mobos or something is really different. You know, one has one chipset and the other has some other chipset or one has a AMD and the other has a Intel. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
For plain device cloning you can read: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ddcommand.htm and http://www.rajeevnet.com/hacks_hints/os_clone/os_cloning.html Using gzip definately saves a lot of space if your partitions aren't completely full. On 5/2/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Jolet wrote: partimage (stores each partition as a file) also requires a storage system that can take 2gb files I might be wrong, but I think you can make partimage split the files, can't you? Alexander Skwar -- Love is not enough, but it sure helps. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 09:30, Alexander Skwar wrote: John Jolet wrote: partimage (stores each partition as a file) also requires a storage system that can take 2gb files I might be wrong, but I think you can make partimage split the files, can't you? Alexander Skwar -- Love is not enough, but it sure helps. that's what the docs say..then again, the docs also say you can write across the network...but both of those failed when i tried them -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources
Alexander Kirillov wrote: I ran into the same problem after upgrading the kernel to gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3. And don't have any problems with most recent nvidia drivers: media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8756 media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.8756 media-video/nvidia-settings-1.0.20051122-r3 Did you rebuild nvidia-glx and all the dependencies? The only dependency with nvidia-kernel seems to be virtual/modutils, which kind of pointed to sys-apps/module-init-tools. I reemerged that and tried the newest nvidia-kernel version. It builds, but the module fails to load. dmesg sais (and this is, where it get really great): NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro GPU installed in this system is NVRM: supported through the NVIDIA Legacy drivers. Please NVRM: visit http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html for more NVRM: information. The 1.0-8756 NVIDIA driver will ignore NVRM: this GPU. Continuing probe... NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found! To me this means that I need the old module with the correct patches. Sigi -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
In case anyone's wondering: http://blinkeye.ch/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page There, look at the link for the GNU/Linux backup script. That's what I use here at work, and I'm able to clone a p4 machine with full KDE in about 1 hour. Pay *very* close attention to the '--excludes' in the script, as you may want to change it to your liking. Works great for me anyway, YMMV! -Jeff Rumen Yotov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Jolet wrote: On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Ronald V. Vazquez wrote: Hello all: I wanted to get some ideas from the list on how to clone a Gentoo box. Perhaps others on the list are interested as well. Thanks, RV we've used 3 different ways: a program called systemimager (works great, but is made for redhat and getting it to work on gentoo was fairly non-trivial) what i call a stage 4, install the system, then make a tarball of the whole thing (requires a storage medium that can store huge files) partimage (stores each partition as a file) also requires a storage system that can take 2gb files of those, the systemimager is the only one you can really do a pxeboot and install from. but as I said, it requires some work and an infrastructure (including an image server and dhchp server you control) Hi, Nothing new (from above), just to add my experience. Using stage4 tarball as backup of my Router (DNS,Apache,qmail,ftpd ... There's a bash-script (IIRC gentoo-wiki.com) which quite fully automates the task, excludes /dev,/proc,/tmp,distfiles,packages etc. Optionally adds/excludes $HOME, /home/ftp and compresses all this with gzip or bzip2 (all chosen from a menu - bash). The resulting size is ~ 300 MB. Install may be done in half on hour (an hour at most),keeping all services configs (minus IPs,DNS,routes etc). HTH.Rumen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEV3GoNbtuTtsWD3wRArTfAJ9SeCiFXpV+JFoHIxGopT2uy61U7ACdE8jr h9UPfYllyjG9FTlSq5aSGvw= =pHpA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- C-3PO: I do believe they think I am some kind of god. Han Solo: Well, why don't you use your divine influence and get us out of this? C-3PO: I beg your pardon General Solo, but that just wouldn't be proper. Han Solo: Proper??? C-3PO: It's against my programming to impersonate a deity. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide
pkill has a -g option to send a signal to a process group. --- Vladimir On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 14:48 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2006, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I think (untested) you can do something like trap 'kill pid of child' TERM at then beginning of parent.sh. This way, when the parent recives TERM it in turn sends a TERM to the child. If you want the parent to terminate, add the exit command as well: trap 'kill pid of child; exit 1' TERM But how to find out the PID of child? What would be convenient is a way to send signals recursively to a process and its children. Maybe I'm trying to solve a problem with wrong tools... Thanks, Jorge Almeida Vladimir G. Ivanovic Palo Alto, CA 94306 +1 650 678 8014 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
Jerônimo Backes wrote on 05/01/06 23:14: I'm running a compiled from source Open Office 2.01-r1 and am having problems getting OOo to accept input of accented, single and double quote characters under KDE 3.4.3. KDE overrides Xorg configs. Just open the KDE's Control Center, select Regional Accessibility, then Keyboard Layout and then, select your keyboard and its variant. That should do the trick. Mine is US English, with intl variant. Thanks for your help Jerônimo. I tried your tip, using all sorts of keyboard layouts (Generic 101 / 104 / 105 key, Logitech Cordless + Cordless Pro), US English, with or without international variant/dead characters, but no joy so far. The quote and double quote keys still work only with the AltGr key pressed. With some of the above combinations the AltGr key completely stopped working. I couldn't even get an € sign with AltGr-5, let alone quotes or accented characters! What seems odd is that OpenOffice is the only application affected, while all other applications work correctly under KDE. So I'm still stuck with this irritating problem... Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Redirect inbox to other mail (Sendmail)
Delca wrote on 05/02/06 17:52: The problem is that i don't know how to send all mails that arrived to /var/spool/mail/username to other mail.. i.e.: i want to send all mails at /var/spool/mail/john to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The alias only sends the new incoming mails. Not the ones already on the file. Someone knows how to solve this? cd /var/spool/mail mv oldname newname chown newname newname Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone use this HDD enclosure?
On 5/1/06, Ian Kabeary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The subject says it all. Its a Vantec Netstar 3 eSATA USB 2.0 Aluminum 3.5 Enclosure.I dont anticipate any issues as its plug play, but I want to make sure before I spend $59.95 CAD on it. Thanks! -- Cheers,Ian I am using the equivalent model with ATA, and have been really happy with it. Easy to use, cool, quiet (has no fan).
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:48, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2006, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I think (untested) you can do something like trap 'kill pid of child' TERM at then beginning of parent.sh. This way, when the parent recives TERM it in turn sends a TERM to the child. If you want the parent to terminate, add the exit command as well: trap 'kill pid of child; exit 1' TERM But how to find out the PID of child? What would be convenient is a way to send signals recursively to a process and its children. Maybe I'm trying to solve a problem with wrong tools... Thanks, You can find the PID of the last backgrouned process using the bash variable $! So something like: subprocess $pid=$! Using trap along with maybe setting alarms should get you what you want. -- Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:1415282 YM:krakrjak AIM:ttyp99 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On 5/1/06, Farhan Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you wish to have latest packages, change ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86, it might make your system a bit unstable but going through my experience it has not broken a thing in my system. And I recommend that you do *not* set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 unless you are prepared for the consequences. It is very much a testing environment, where either the ebuild or the package itself might not be completely stable, or worse, incompatible with previous configuration files or other packages on your system. Baselayout and udev have been particularly 'dangerous' on ~x86 recently. Additionally, ~x86 updates more frequently than x86, so you will have much more downloading and compiling to do at each update. Yes ~x86 does work most of the time, and the Gentoo devs are extremely good at fixing problems quickly. But it can be expected to break occasionally, and you need to know what do when it does. If you want ~x86 for specific packages, use /etc/portage/package.keywords. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On 5/1/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 01:11 pm, Jeff Rollin wrote: I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it improves the speed of KDE applications too So, can you please tell me how to do this? Please read the manual. It explains how to set something like this. make.conf is the appropriate file. But don't bother, 'cause it doesn't do anything anyway. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Zac Slade wrote: You can find the PID of the last backgrouned process using the bash variable $! The child is not backgrounded! So something like: subprocess $pid=$! Using trap along with maybe setting alarms should get you what you want. Based on the suggestions of Uwe and Vladimir, I tried trap 'pkill -TERM -P $$; kill -s TERM $$' TERM do something . /path/to/child.sh do something else Doesn't work, yet. Note that child.sh is a shell script that may execute some other command (like rsync), so the . by itself may not be enough. Thanks everyone. Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Redirect inbox to other mail (Sendmail)
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 18:16, Dave Jones wrote: Someone knows how to solve this? cd /var/spool/mail mv oldname newname chown newname newname What if the second account is not local? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Redirect inbox to other mail (Sendmail)
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote on 05/02/06 19:27: On Tuesday 02 May 2006 18:16, Dave Jones wrote: Someone knows how to solve this? cd /var/spool/mail mv oldname newname chown newname newname What if the second account is not local? Copying the mail spool file into /var/spool/mail to the machine you want to receive the mail on and then issuing the commands above should work. OK, this is a very 'quick and dirty' fix, but offhand I don't know of any other way to do it. Sorry, but I don't know how to persuade Sendmail to handle mail packages it's already processed and delivered to /var/spool/mail. HTH. Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mouse Question (Not working Wheel)
Hello all, I am wondering what I need to do to get my wheel (scroll) to work inside of gnome? In my xorg I have auto as the protocal, and for the location to /dev/input/mice what else do I nned for geting my mouse wheel to work inside of Gnome? Thanks for your help ahead of time! Sincerely, Christopher -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: ip6tables, state matching
Graham Murray wrote: [...] ip6tables can do that, but I think it needs version 1.3.5 which is in ~arch and kernel = 2.6.16 (with CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK_IPV6=y/m) Thanks for the hint. I actually found it in the unstable branches iptables-1.3.5 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Redirect inbox to other mail (Sendmail)
Delca wrote: The problem is that i don't know how to send all mails that arrived to /var/spool/mail/username to other mail.. i.e.: i want to send all mails at /var/spool/mail/john to [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /var/spool/mail/${USER} | formail +1 -ds sendmail -oem ${USER} I don't know if it is working, it is not my idea. But you must have alias defined before, otherwise it would be delivered probably to the same mailbox (maybe infinite loop?)... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Question (Not working Wheel)
Hi Christopher, Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 19:50 schrieb Christopher E: Hello all, I am wondering what I need to do to get my wheel (scroll) to work inside of gnome? In my xorg I have auto as the protocal, and for the location to /dev/input/mice what else do I nned for geting my mouse wheel to work inside of Gnome? basically you need to add: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Buttons 5 to the Section InputDevice of your mouse in your xorg.conf You can find more info about this (including special configurations for some mice) at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Scrollwheel Thanks for your help ahead of time! Sincerely, Christopher Hth, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Question (Not working Wheel)
See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml#doc_chap4_sect3 ;-) This is xorg configuration, it has nothing to do with gnome.On 5/2/06, Christopher E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello all,I am wondering what I need to do to get my wheel (scroll) to work inside of gnome?In my xorg I have auto as the protocal, and for the location to/dev/input/mice what else do I nned for geting my mouse wheel to workinside of Gnome?Thanks for your help ahead of time! Sincerely,Christopher--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Question (Not working Wheel)
Hey Chris. This one often stumps even seasoned X dorks like myself. In your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, look for the 'Section InputDevice' stanza which describes your mouse, and add the following: Option ZAxisMApping 4 5 This will get your mouse wheel up and running, but you'll need to restart X by logging out of Gnome, and at gdm (or greeter of choice), do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and long back in. Should work for you! Slainte. :-) -Jeff Christopher E wrote: Hello all, I am wondering what I need to do to get my wheel (scroll) to work inside of gnome? In my xorg I have auto as the protocal, and for the location to /dev/input/mice what else do I nned for geting my mouse wheel to work inside of Gnome? Thanks for your help ahead of time! Sincerely, Christopher -- Han Solo: Well Princess, it looks like you managed to keep me here a while longer. Princess Leia: I had nothing to do with it. General Rieekan thinks it's dangerous for anyone to leave the system until they've activated the energy shield. Han Solo: That's a good story. I think you just can't bear to let a gorgeous guy like me out of your sight. Princess Leia: I don't know where you get you delusions, laser brain! Chewbacca laughs Han Solo: Laugh it up, fuzzball! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Question (Not working Wheel)
Thank you Michael! So that would apply to a mouse with two buttons and the wheel that is button also? Sincerely, Christopher On 5/2/06, Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Christopher, Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 19:50 schrieb Christopher E: Hello all, I am wondering what I need to do to get my wheel (scroll) to work inside of gnome? In my xorg I have auto as the protocal, and for the location to /dev/input/mice what else do I nned for geting my mouse wheel to work inside of Gnome? basically you need to add: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Buttons 5 to the Section InputDevice of your mouse in your xorg.conf You can find more info about this (including special configurations for some mice) at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Scrollwheel Thanks for your help ahead of time! Sincerely, Christopher Hth, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Question (Not working Wheel)
Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 20:13 schrieb Christopher E: Thank you Michael! So that would apply to a mouse with two buttons and the wheel that is button also? yes :) The wheel are buttons 4 and 5 in that case. Sincerely, Christopher Hand, Michael On 5/2/06, Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Christopher, Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 19:50 schrieb Christopher E: Hello all, I am wondering what I need to do to get my wheel (scroll) to work inside of gnome? In my xorg I have auto as the protocal, and for the location to /dev/input/mice what else do I nned for geting my mouse wheel to work inside of Gnome? basically you need to add: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Buttons 5 to the Section InputDevice of your mouse in your xorg.conf You can find more info about this (including special configurations for some mice) at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Scrollwheel Thanks for your help ahead of time! Sincerely, Christopher Hth, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Question (Not working Wheel)
Hello and thank you all for your respone my mouse is not working to my best of knowing :-) Sincerely, Christopher On 5/2/06, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Chris. This one often stumps even seasoned X dorks like myself. In your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, look for the 'Section InputDevice' stanza which describes your mouse, and add the following: Option ZAxisMApping 4 5 This will get your mouse wheel up and running, but you'll need to restart X by logging out of Gnome, and at gdm (or greeter of choice), do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and long back in. Should work for you! Slainte. :-) -Jeff Christopher E wrote: Hello all, I am wondering what I need to do to get my wheel (scroll) to work inside of gnome? In my xorg I have auto as the protocal, and for the location to /dev/input/mice what else do I nned for geting my mouse wheel to work inside of Gnome? Thanks for your help ahead of time! Sincerely, Christopher -- Han Solo: Well Princess, it looks like you managed to keep me here a while longer. Princess Leia: I had nothing to do with it. General Rieekan thinks it's dangerous for anyone to leave the system until they've activated the energy shield. Han Solo: That's a good story. I think you just can't bear to let a gorgeous guy like me out of your sight. Princess Leia: I don't know where you get you delusions, laser brain! Chewbacca laughs Han Solo: Laugh it up, fuzzball! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Two things, AC97 sound and Gnome issues!
Hello there, my sound seems to work, but not that concesit. like I have skype ring some times and other times it does not, then with my mic it plays through the speakers Any ideas to why and who to get it stable? when I do a lspci I get this for my sound card: 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) Sincerely, Christopher On 4/30/06, wu chuanwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/4/27, Christopher E [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all, if there is any one that can help me with the following two issue I would be greatful. 1. I am have a error message when booting about snd_via82xx not found. FATAL: Module snd_via82xx not found. is the exact message. Are you sure your sound module is snd_via82xx?I have a AC97 sound card,and the modules is not this one. I have the driver as part of the kernel, when I don't ALSA then gives a message like this: ALSA device list: Sound Card not found I have emerged hal, dbus, alsa-utils and have added all of them to rc-update level boot. I have run the alsaconf. 2. Now with gnome, when I type startx at the prompte I get the logo and then it stops, I then have to move the mouse and click on the logo and it goes away and then its just a blank screen. I have to do ctrl+alt+backspace to get out and get to a prompte again. See the message after you do ctrl+alt+bachspace! If you have any other questions that I have not answered here please ask so this may get fixed. If any one knows how I could fix these issue I would be greatful and thankful to you. Sincerely, Christopher -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to get rid of gentoo-sources
How can I prevent emerge from merging gentoo-sources (I now use sources from ftp.kernel.org).I tried --unmerge whithout success. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide
Hi, On Tue, 2 May 2006 17:42:26 +0100 (WEST) Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2006, Zac Slade wrote: You can find the PID of the last backgrouned process using the bash variable $! The child is not backgrounded! So something like: subprocess $pid=$! Using trap along with maybe setting alarms should get you what you want. Based on the suggestions of Uwe and Vladimir, I tried trap 'pkill -TERM -P $$; kill -s TERM $$' TERM do something . /path/to/child.sh do something else Doesn't work, yet. Note that child.sh is a shell script that may execute some other command (like rsync), so the . by itself may not be enough. This can't work because of this (man bash): --snip If bash is waiting for a command to complete and receives a signal for which a trap has been set, the trap will not be executed until the command completes. --snip What instead works (just tested): --snip #!/bin/sh COMMAND=sleep 120 # First we background: $COMMAND # Save the PID CHILDPID=$! # Trap the signal: trap kill -TERM $CHILDPID TERM # And wait for the Child to finish: wait $CHILDPID # reset signal handling: trap - TERM --snip Note that the code could hit a racing condition and should therefore not carelessly run by root on a machine with untrusted users. This is: The process may have finished before setting the signal handler. Other processes *might* reuse the PID afterwards and might get sig-TERM-ed until resetting the signal handler again. Probably a minor, depending on the script's usage. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Question (Not working Wheel)
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 13:50 -0400, Christopher E wrote: Hello all, I am wondering what I need to do to get my wheel (scroll) to work inside of gnome? In my xorg I have auto as the protocal, and for the location to /dev/input/mice what else do I nned for geting my mouse wheel to work inside of Gnome? Thanks for your help ahead of time! Sincerely, Christopher From my xorg.conf file: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mouse0 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection That ZAxisMapping line is the one you need to get the mouse wheel working... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Question (Not working Wheel)
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 14:13 -0400, Christopher E wrote: Thank you Michael! So that would apply to a mouse with two buttons and the wheel that is button also? Yes. In any Linux docs you might read that refer to the third mouse button, this is your mouse wheel. Sincerely, Christopher On 5/2/06, Michael Schreckenbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Christopher, Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 19:50 schrieb Christopher E: Hello all, I am wondering what I need to do to get my wheel (scroll) to work inside of gnome? In my xorg I have auto as the protocal, and for the location to /dev/input/mice what else do I nned for geting my mouse wheel to work inside of Gnome? basically you need to add: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Buttons 5 to the Section InputDevice of your mouse in your xorg.conf You can find more info about this (including special configurations for some mice) at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Scrollwheel Thanks for your help ahead of time! Sincerely, Christopher Hth, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Audio CD - DVD s Issues
Christopher E wrote: Hello All, Ok here is a issue someone else and I are having with playing cds of audio / DVD: Error from duoble clicking on the icon on the desktop of audio cd or a dvd: Cound't display ccda:///dev/hda. I had an issue before accessing my dvd drive. I fixed it by adding my user to the cdrom group. Is your user in the cdrom group? - Sean -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of gentoo-sources
On 5/2/06, Leopold Gouverneur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I prevent emerge from merging gentoo-sources (I now use sources from ftp.kernel.org).I tried --unmerge whithout success. Try 'equery depends gentoo-sources' to see which package(s) want gentoo-sources. Jusitn -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Audio CD - DVD s Issues
Hello Sean, yep it is indeed, seeing I am in root for now then I will make other accounts and so on. Thanks for your reply to my issue! Sincerely, Christopher On 5/2/06, Sean O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher E wrote: Hello All, Ok here is a issue someone else and I are having with playing cds of audio / DVD: Error from duoble clicking on the icon on the desktop of audio cd or a dvd: Cound't display ccda:///dev/hda. I had an issue before accessing my dvd drive. I fixed it by adding my user to the cdrom group. Is your user in the cdrom group? - Sean -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare on Gentoo?
Thanks to all who mentioned the ebuild. It hadn't occurred to me that there would be one. I'll try setting it up when I get back to that machine tonight. ++ kevinOn 4/30/06, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 04/30/06 06:51: I just got an evaluation copy of VMWare Workstation 5.5, and I'm momentarily glad I didn't pay for this thing.It seems to expect a RedHat style runlevel system. Has anybody successfully fooled with this thing to make it work on Gentoo? At the moment, its problems seem to be related to the daemon management features.I could clone them, but it would be a lot of work. The 5.5.1.19175-r3 ebuild runs perfectly here,give it a go.You *must* run vmware-config.pl as root after the install.If vmware-config.pl complains about being unable to shutdown the vmwareservices, rerun it using the -skipstopstart switch. rc-update add vmware defaultwill fix your redhat runlevel problems.Make sure that the userid you're going to run vmware under is a memberof the vmware group.Hope this helps.Dave-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
On 02/05/06, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 May 2006 09:30, Alexander Skwar wrote: John Jolet wrote: partimage (stores each partition as a file) also requires a storage system that can take 2gb files I might be wrong, but I think you can make partimage split the files, can't you? Yes, you can split the image file to a size of your choice. that's what the docs say..then again, the docs also say you can write across the network...but both of those failed when i tried them Both options have worked for me on different machines. Yet again YMMV. Partimage is good if you are cloning identically sized partitions (perfect for a backup). It's a bit more involved if the partitions are different sizes as you will have to resize them thereafter using something like e.g. gparted. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 16:02, Conneries wearegeeks wrote: is there any reason not to try drver version 8756? Yes, twinview doesn't work properly with the 8756 version. I had to fall back to the previous version. the previous version would be 8178 ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Audio CD - DVD s Issues
On 5/2/06, Christopher E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Ok here is a issue someone else and I are having with playing cds of audio / DVD: Error from duoble clicking on the icon on the desktop of audio cd or a dvd: Cound't display ccda:///dev/hda. Check this old thread: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/155453/focus=155476 Its about the same problem. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 11:51, S. Schwartz wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: is there any reason not to try drver version 8756? 6629 is very old. very, very old. Even older. It is old. As I said, all other available versions in portage didn't compile or load afterwards. Only one version (other than 6629, one of the 1.0.7...) did both successfully but crashed when starting X. If the problem is still there, I would try vanilla kernel. I'm not going to, since I believe I would be missing a lot of these gentoo-patches. Anyway to me it seems that the nvidia-kernel ebuild needs improvement (patching the stuff about remap_page_range and pci_find_class). which patches? What would you missing? And since the problem does not appear with vanilla kernels, it is worth a try. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel vs. gentoo-sources
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 17:03, S. Schwartz wrote: Alexander Kirillov wrote: I ran into the same problem after upgrading the kernel to gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3. And don't have any problems with most recent nvidia drivers: media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8756 media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.8756 media-video/nvidia-settings-1.0.20051122-r3 Did you rebuild nvidia-glx and all the dependencies? The only dependency with nvidia-kernel seems to be virtual/modutils, which kind of pointed to sys-apps/module-init-tools. I reemerged that and tried the newest nvidia-kernel version. It builds, but the module fails to load. dmesg sais (and this is, where it get really great): NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro GPU installed in this system is NVRM: supported through the NVIDIA Legacy drivers. Please NVRM: visit http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html for more NVRM: information. The 1.0-8756 NVIDIA driver will ignore NVRM: this GPU. Continuing probe... NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found! To me this means that I need the old module with the correct patches. you don't need 6629 in that case. You can go to 7174. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of gentoo-sources
Hi, On Tue, 2 May 2006 21:09:44 +0200 Leopold Gouverneur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I prevent emerge from merging gentoo-sources (I now use sources from ftp.kernel.org).I tried --unmerge whithout success. Something will always try to pull it in. But you can tell portage that it's there: $ cat /etc/portage/profile/package.provided sys-kernel/development-sources-2.6.15.4 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15.4 (dunno why I've inserted both, one should be sufficient, and yes, it already got a bit outdated) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
you might check out: DAR (Disk ARchive) - http://dar.linux.free.fr/ and SaraB - http://sarab.sourceforge.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Strangely encoded filenames with special characters
Hello. On my system, I've got some files, in which special characters (eg. German umlaute, like äöü or ß) are encoded in a rather strange way. Eg.: [2005-04-14 20-17-09] (0766) Sandra mit Cassandra auf Arm, Klinikum Barmen, Tag 23 - Schwarz-Wei�:009f.jpg Schwarz-Wei�:009f should read Schwarz-Weiß. What I don't understand is, why the ß has been (wrongly) encoded as �:009f. Why is that happening? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- Man who falls in vat of molten optical glass makes spectacle of self. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Redirect inbox to other mail (Sendmail)
i mispelled my problem, sorry :P i want to send all arrived mails at /var/spool/mail/john to for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] i think the formail is a good option, but i don't know how to tell sendmail to send the mails! :( I tryed running your command and there was a little problem, some mails were sent again to all users (i've set up a 'to all' account i mean.. one mail that sends to every user an email) and i just want to be redirected to one mail account in particular. sorry again! Santiago On 5/2/06, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delca wrote: The problem is that i don't know how to send all mails that arrived to /var/spool/mail/username to other mail.. i.e.: i want to send all mails at /var/spool/mail/john to [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /var/spool/mail/${USER} | formail +1 -ds sendmail -oem ${USER} I don't know if it is working, it is not my idea. But you must have alias defined before, otherwise it would be delivered probably to the same mailbox (maybe infinite loop?)... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
Hi, OK, here's my deal. My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to working, again. This is what I want to do to make it easy when this happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather than later too. I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if it takes a few CDs. When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little interaction from me. Is there such a creature? Please tell me it is free. I'm used to Linux remember. I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS. hangs head in shame She a great person in all other respects though. I just have to keep working on this area. Thanks Dale :-) Oh, I'm still looking for help with samba share so I can copy her documents and such to my rig, since mine seems to always work. :D Again, sorry to ask a windoze question here but it's not like I ask anywhere else. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
On 5/2/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, OK, here's my deal. My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to working, again. This is what I want to do to make it easy when this happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather than later too. I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if it takes a few CDs. When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little interaction from me. Is there such a creature? Please tell me it is free. I'm used to Linux remember. I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS. hangs head in shame She a great person in all other respects though. I just have to keep working on this area. Thanks Dale :-) There is g4l (Ghost For Linux), it is still under work I believe, but it is a great tool, if you never used Ghost (from Symantec) then you're not familiar with Windows (lol). It can backup your disk/partitions and create image files that can be restored later. It has good compression and I have an image for each Windows Machine here at work. A whole install with Office and everything goes about 3 CDs. http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/ -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Messengers - AIM, YIM, LIM?
Hello All, Could some one please recommend a very clean but as much fuctions as the below servers allow: Yahoo Instant Messanger Aol Instant Messanger Live Instant Messanger --MSN is now moving to Live ... Thanks very much ahead of time! Sincerely, Christopher -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
Partimage works pretty well although not exactly as you described. It requires a linux server to serve the images I believe. There may be a way to use a livecd of some sort to do it locally as you described.Otherwise the not free/opensource solution is Norton Ghost. --DavidOn 5/2/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,OK, here's my deal.My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it hasalready died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back toworking, again.This is what I want to do to make it easy when this happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner ratherthan later too.I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even ifit takes a few CDs.When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with littleinteraction from me.Is there such a creature?Please tell me it is free.I'm used to Linuxremember.I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS. hangs head in shame She a great person in all other respects though.I just have to keep working on this area.ThanksDale:-)Oh, I'm still looking for help with samba share so I can copy her documents and such to my rig, since mine seems to always work.:DAgain, sorry to ask a windoze question here but it's not like I askanywhere else.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 23.18, Teresa and Dale wrote: Hi, OK, here's my deal. My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to working, again. This is what I want to do to make it easy when this happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather than later too. I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if it takes a few CDs. When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little interaction from me. Is there such a creature? Please tell me it is free. I'm used to Linux remember. I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS. hangs head in shame She a great person in all other respects though. I just have to keep working on this area. Thanks Dale I've done that on Laptops (you know, those thingies that come with crap pre-installed) in order to put that back if I sell them later... I know if two ways that (might) work: a) dd - you might have to shrink the partition first or try 7zip to make it smaller later. You'll also need a pertition to store the file. I would do it from some live distro (Mepis or Knoppix or so). You can then put it back the other way round, but you may have to reinstall Windows first to gat a working mbr. b) Paragon Partition Manager. It is _not_ free unfortunately but it's good value for money. Get the CD iso image (the fools distribute it as an *.exe file!), burn it and boot. Amongst other things it will let you resize the partition (if required) and backup/archive it, if you want directly on CD or DVD. Note the software runs on a linux boot cd. As I said, it's not free ($50) - but you can get a free demo here: http://www.partition-manager.com/ and test it. Might save your ass some day. -- Stupidity is like a fractal; universal and infinitely repetitive. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Based on the suggestions of Uwe and Vladimir, I tried trap 'pkill -TERM -P $$; kill -s TERM $$' TERM do something . /path/to/child.sh do something else Doesn't work, yet. Note that child.sh is a shell script that may execute some other command (like rsync), so the . by itself may not be enough. This can't work because of this (man bash): --snip If bash is waiting for a command to complete and receives a signal for which a trap has been set, the trap will not be executed until the command completes. --snip Oops...! What instead works (just tested): --snip #!/bin/sh COMMAND=sleep 120 # First we background: $COMMAND # Save the PID CHILDPID=$! # Trap the signal: trap kill -TERM $CHILDPID TERM # And wait for the Child to finish: wait $CHILDPID # reset signal handling: trap - TERM --snip Backgrounding is really not an option. The whole setup is to be supervised by daemontools. Note that the code could hit a racing condition and should therefore not carelessly run by root on a machine with untrusted users. This is: The process may have finished before setting the signal handler. Other processes *might* reuse the PID afterwards and might get sig-TERM-ed until resetting the signal handler again. Probably a minor, depending on the script's usage. Precisely the kind of thing I want to avoid. I think I need to reformulate my setup. Thanks. Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 5/2/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, OK, here's my deal. My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to working, again. This is what I want to do to make it easy when this happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather than later too. I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if it takes a few CDs. When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little interaction from me. Is there such a creature? Please tell me it is free. I'm used to Linux remember. I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS. hangs head in shame She a great person in all other respects though. I just have to keep working on this area. Thanks Dale :-) There is g4l (Ghost For Linux), it is still under work I believe, but it is a great tool, if you never used Ghost (from Symantec) then you're not familiar with Windows (lol). It can backup your disk/partitions and create image files that can be restored later. It has good compression and I have an image for each Windows Machine here at work. A whole install with Office and everything goes about 3 CDs. http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/ -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- I have heard of Ghost before. I saw it on The Screen Savers show a few times. You are right, I hate windoze. I can install it and set up some stuff but I like to run after that. I would rather go to a dentist than mess with windoze. I make a exception for my brother and my Sweetie. May have to check on that. Thanks Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
Thierry de Coulon wrote: I've done that on Laptops (you know, those thingies that come with crap pre-installed) in order to put that back if I sell them later... I got you there. ;-) I know if two ways that (might) work: a) dd - you might have to shrink the partition first or try 7zip to make it smaller later. You'll also need a pertition to store the file. I would do it from some live distro (Mepis or Knoppix or so). You can then put it back the other way round, but you may have to reinstall Windows first to gat a working mbr. b) Paragon Partition Manager. It is _not_ free unfortunately but it's good value for money. Get the CD iso image (the fools distribute it as an *.exe file!), burn it and boot. Amongst other things it will let you resize the partition (if required) and backup/archive it, if you want directly on CD or DVD. Note the software runs on a linux boot cd. As I said, it's not free ($50) - but you can get a free demo here: http://www.partition-manager.com/ and test it. Might save your ass some day. That dd thing always scared me for some reason. Plan b sounds neat. I need to add that to the to check list. Thanks Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 21:18, Teresa and Dale wrote: I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if it takes a few CDs. When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little interaction from me. Is there such a creature? Please tell me it is free. I'm used to Linux remember. First defragment her OS partition a couple of times (and reboot in between for good measure ;-). Then you can use a Knoppix or other Linux LiveCD on her machine, run partimage and save an image of her OS partition on one of your boxen over the LAN. If you don't want to take up too much of your valuable disk space you can of course compress the image. If you rather save it on CD's/DVD's partimage can split the image down to smaller file sizes. You can of course also save it on a new partition on her box. http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page Another tool which you can use from within Windoze is Bart's PE and DriveImage XML (a plugin you can build into Bart's PE LiveCD). http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm They're both free and should do the job you want. Personally, I use Knoppix and partimage, but there are other linux tools (down to the relatively basic dd command) which should do the trick on a VFAT partition. -- Regards, Mick pgpXeFrEcpk2Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 4:42 pm, David Miller wrote: Partimage works pretty well although not exactly as you described. It requires a linux server to serve the images I believe. There may be a way to use a livecd of some sort to do it locally as you described. http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page You can mount a local partition (other then the one you're backing up), save image to disk (you can specify file size limit) and burn later. -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messengers - AIM, YIM, LIM?
On 5/2/06, Christopher E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Could some one please recommend a very clean but as much fuctions as the below servers allow: GAIM is pretty popular, and I like it. http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(+) s+: a24 C++ UBL++ P L++ E--- W+++$ N+ o? K? w O? M-- V? !PS !PE Y PGP- t++ 5++ X+ R+++ tv+ b++ DI D++ G e+ h-- r++ y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
Mick wrote: First defragment her OS partition a couple of times (and reboot in between for good measure ;-). Then you can use a Knoppix or other Linux LiveCD on her machine, run partimage and save an image of her OS partition on one of your boxen over the LAN. If you don't want to take up too much of your valuable disk space you can of course compress the image. If you rather save it on CD's/DVD's partimage can split the image down to smaller file sizes. You can of course also save it on a new partition on her box. http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page Another tool which you can use from within Windoze is Bart's PE and DriveImage XML (a plugin you can build into Bart's PE LiveCD). http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm They're both free and should do the job you want. Personally, I use Knoppix and partimage, but there are other linux tools (down to the relatively basic dd command) which should do the trick on a VFAT partition. Crap, I forgot and used NTFS on the thing. sighs I wonder if the newer kernel will write safely yet Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
I tried your tip, using all sorts of keyboard layouts (Generic 101 / 104 / 105 key, Logitech Cordless + Cordless Pro), US English, with or without international variant/dead characters, but no joy so far. What seems odd is that OpenOffice is the only application affected, while all other applications work correctly under KDE. So I'm still stuck with this irritating problem... Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts. ___ Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail: 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. http://br.info.mail.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Webapp-config trouble
Hi, cgiirc-0.5.8 got installed as part of the regular update world cycle yesterday. It was slotted alongside 0.5.7. At first, I noticed that the vhosts USE flag was turned on when 0.5.8 got installed. So I re-emerged it with -vhosts. After that, I unmerged cgiirc-0.5.7. Tried to start apache with /etc/init.d/apache2 start and I get the following error: * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files: Usage: /usr/sbin/apache2 [-D name] [-d directory] [-f file] [-C directive] [-c directive] [-k start|restart|graceful|stop] [-v] [-V] [-h] [-l] [-L] [-t] [-S] Options: -D name : define a name for use in IfDefine name directives -d directory : specify an alternate initial ServerRoot -f file : specify an alternate ServerConfigFile -C directive: process directive before reading config files -c directive: process directive after reading config files -e level : show startup errors of level (see LogLevel) -E file : log startup errors to file -v: show version number -V: show compile settings -h: list available command line options (this page) -l: list compiled in modules -L: list available configuration directives -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS : show parsed settings (currently only vhost settings) -S: a synonym for -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS -t: run syntax check for config files I tried to run webapp-config --si -V and I get this: * Install directory is: /var/www/localhost/htdocs * Fatal error: No .webapp file in /var/www/localhost/htdocs; unable to continue * Fatal error(s) - aborting How do I solve this? Thanks. Mrugesh pgposWMvlehbE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of gentoo-sources
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:23:49PM -0600, Justin Findlay wrote: On 5/2/06, Leopold Gouverneur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I prevent emerge from merging gentoo-sources (I now use sources from ftp.kernel.org).I tried --unmerge whithout success. Try 'equery depends gentoo-sources' to see which package(s) want gentoo-sources. Jusitn equery depends show nothing but anyway package.provided did the trick. thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Redirect inbox to other mail (Sendmail)
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 15:58, Delca wrote: i mispelled my problem, sorry :P i want to send all arrived mails at /var/spool/mail/john to for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] i think the formail is a good option, but i don't know how to tell sendmail to send the mails! :( I tryed running your command and there was a little problem, some mails were sent again to all users (i've set up a 'to all' account i mean.. one mail that sends to every user an email) and i just want to be redirected to one mail account in particular. sorry again! Santiago um, that's just an alias in /etc/mail/aliases, put john: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] save the file and run newaliases On 5/2/06, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delca wrote: The problem is that i don't know how to send all mails that arrived to /var/spool/mail/username to other mail.. i.e.: i want to send all mails at /var/spool/mail/john to [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /var/spool/mail/${USER} | formail +1 -ds sendmail -oem ${USER} I don't know if it is working, it is not my idea. But you must have alias defined before, otherwise it would be delivered probably to the same mailbox (maybe infinite loop?)... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
This is a excelent article http://es.geocities.com/linuxeando/partimage.html Saludos Fernando Ferrari Desarrollador Linux http://fernandorferrari.blogspot.com -Mensaje original- De: Ronald V. Vazquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Martes, 02 de Mayo de 2006 10:19 a.m. Para: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Asunto: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box Hello all: I wanted to get some ideas from the list on how to clone a Gentoo box. Perhaps others on the list are interested as well. Thanks, RV -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of gentoo-sources
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 12:28:20AM +0200, Leopold Gouverneur wrote: On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:23:49PM -0600, Justin Findlay wrote: On 5/2/06, Leopold Gouverneur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I prevent emerge from merging gentoo-sources (I now use sources from ftp.kernel.org).I tried --unmerge whithout success. Try 'equery depends gentoo-sources' to see which package(s) want gentoo-sources. Jusitn equery depends show nothing but anyway package.provided did the trick. thanks except that emerge --sync delete package.provided so I must recreate it before running emerge -upD world! There is something weird here. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of gentoo-sources
Leopold Gouverneur wrote: except that emerge --sync delete package.provided so I must recreate it before running emerge -upD world! There is something weird here. You need to put it in /etc/portage/package.provided. If you put it in the profile then yes, it will be overwritten by an emerge --sync. - Sean -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] VMWare on Gentoo?
IMHO, VMWare is well worth the selling price. This is one of the most useful, robust, solid, and transparent products I've ever used. Granted, I use it on an XP host with Gentoo in a VM, but I am just blown away every time I think about what it's doing and enabling me to do. The fact that they're giving away the player and server now free is even more astonishing. I strongly urge you to buy your copy and support that company. From: Kevin O'Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:52 PMTo: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgSubject: [gentoo-user] VMWare on Gentoo? I just got an evaluation copy of VMWare Workstation 5.5, and I'm momentarily gladI didn't pay for this thing. It seems to expect a RedHat style runlevel system.Has anybody successfully fooled with this thing to make it work on Gentoo?At the moment, its problems seem to be related to the daemon managementfeatures. I could clone them, but it would be a lot of work.-- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone use this HDD enclosure?
Does the hard drive get warm without a fan?That is the one thing I dont like about this thing. :)~IanOn 5/2/06, K Barter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/1/06, Ian Kabeary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The subject says it all. Its a Vantec Netstar 3 eSATA USB 2.0 Aluminum 3.5 Enclosure.I dont anticipate any issues as its plug play, but I want to make sure before I spend $59.95 CAD on it. Thanks! -- Cheers,Ian I am using the equivalent model with ATA, and have been really happy with it. Easy to use, cool, quiet (has no fan). -- Cheers,Ian
Re: [gentoo-user] Cloning a Gentoo box
for (nearly) identical hardware i use the following commands (from a live distro like knoppix) // create compressed and splitted image dd if=/dev/sd? | gzip -c | split -b 699m - /space/for/imagefiles/image.gz. don't forget that last dot // verify cat /space/for/imagefiles/image.gz.* | gzip -d | cmp - /dev/sd? // restore cat /space/for/imagefiles/image.gz.* | gzip -d | dd of=/dev/sd? this is of course os/fs independent. best regards. robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of gentoo-sources
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 21:09, Leopold Gouverneur wrote: How can I prevent emerge from merging gentoo-sources (I now use sources from ftp.kernel.org).I tried --unmerge whithout success. Thanks. very strange - unmerged gentoo-kernel a long time ago and it never tried to install them again.. Do you have any splash-stuff installed? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (Linux) surveillance system?
Jeff wrote: Hello all. In the pursuit of a light physical security solution, I was wondering - does anyone recommend a small-time nanny-cam or web cam monitoring system that can run atop Linux and accessed using a web browser? We're looking to beef up physical security to our server room, but we don't have tons to spend. We'd like the design discreet and simple for the time being, until we can afford something huge. Just wondering. :-) -Jeff Have a look at motion: http://motion.sourceforge.net/ http://freshmeat.net/redir/motion/6642/url_homepage/motion.sourceforge.net -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list