Re: [gentoo-user] gnome and mono-tools blocking

2006-07-31 Thread Andreas Schoelver
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:59:45 -0700 "Richard Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/30/06, Andreas Schoelver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But why does USE="mozilla" *not* help? > > Because mozilla is being removed from the tree due to security problems. Thanks for all the informations from Jes

Re: [gentoo-user] harmful "Reply-To" Munging on Gentoo mailing lists

2006-07-31 Thread Alexander Skwar
Alexander Skwar schrieb: Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov schrieb: It has come to my attention that "Reply-To" Munging is not a good idea to have on mailing lists: This is wrong. It is *USEFUL*! http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml Alexander Skwar -- like: When being alive at

Re: [gentoo-user] neon: endless up-/down-grade

2006-07-31 Thread Andreas Schoelver
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:28:04 +0100 Steve Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > I think that the fundamental problem is that the neon API changes between > versions, so rapidsvn will only compile against one version of neon while > gnome-vfs will only compile against a different version. > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] harmful "Reply-To" Munging on Gentoo mailing lists

2006-07-31 Thread Alexander Skwar
Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov schrieb: It has come to my attention that "Reply-To" Munging is not a good idea to have on mailing lists: This is wrong. It is *USEFUL*! http://www.metasystema.org/essays/reply-to-useful.html and when I click "Reply" ("Reply to all" option does not exist for Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Marco Fabbri
2006/8/1, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 7/31/06, Marco Fabbri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Resolving mi.mirror.garr.it... 1.0.0.0I would say your DNS server is lying to you.  You are right. Shame on me.Now I use ip addres instead or url, and it works. I will check network configuration out.T

Re: [gentoo-user] Foomatic should be added to the Gentoo Printing doc

2006-07-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Grant wrote: I followed this guide to set up printing: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml but it didn't start working until I emerged foomatic. The guide doesn't mention foomatic whatsoever. My printer is a Brother HL-2040 laser. The latest cups ebuild will force you to install

Re: [gentoo-user] Foomatic should be added to the Gentoo Printing doc

2006-07-31 Thread Randy Barlow
Grant wrote: > I followed this guide to set up printing: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml > > but it didn't start working until I emerged foomatic. The guide > doesn't mention foomatic whatsoever. My printer is a Brother HL-2040 > laser. Maybe file a bug against docs? -- ge

[gentoo-user] Foomatic should be added to the Gentoo Printing doc

2006-07-31 Thread Grant
I followed this guide to set up printing: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml but it didn't start working until I emerged foomatic. The guide doesn't mention foomatic whatsoever. My printer is a Brother HL-2040 laser. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2006.1 liveCD

2006-07-31 Thread Collins Richey
On 7/31/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Daniel da Veiga gmail.com> writes: > > > Releases are not very important for Gentoo, if you have a live > > > internet connection (which is not REQUIRED, but will make your system > > > a lot more useful with Gentoo) after the whole process you'll g

Re: [gentoo-user] harmful "Reply-To" Munging on Gentoo mailing lists

2006-07-31 Thread John J. Foster
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 08:43:09PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: > > My preferred MUA (mutt) is smart > enough and configurable enough to treat mailing lists properly. > Here, here. -- Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. pgpa1ta5KFB8F.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-user] Re: 2006.1 liveCD

2006-07-31 Thread James
Daniel da Veiga gmail.com> writes: > > > Releases are not very important for Gentoo, if you have a live > > > internet connection (which is not REQUIRED, but will make your system > > > a lot more useful with Gentoo) after the whole process you'll get the > > > latest Gentoo anyway. > > I think

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Nick Rout
there is something wrong with your name resolution: distfiles.gentoo.org does not have IP address 1.0.0.0 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:55:55 +0200 Marco Fabbri wrote: > Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org...1.0.0.0 > Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org|1.0.0.0|:80... failed: Connection timed > out. > Retry

Re: [gentoo-user] harmful "Reply-To" Munging on Gentoo mailing lists

2006-07-31 Thread Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov
Big discussion over this about 18 months ago. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/120320/focus=120320 Thanks a lot. I didn't find the search functions on the archives sites very helpful in finding an old thread about this. The change was made as you suggested, without announcemen

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 7/31/06, Marco Fabbri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Resolving mi.mirror.garr.it... 1.0.0.0 Um, ok, somehow you resolved both mi.mirror.garr.it and distfiles.gentoo.org to 1.0.0.0. Even if that was a valid IP address, I would say your DNS server is lying to you. Try using a sane DNS server in

Re: [gentoo-user] harmful "Reply-To" Munging on Gentoo mailing lists

2006-07-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 7/31/06, Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It has come to my attention that "Reply-To" Munging is not a good idea to have on mailing lists: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html . That is a matter of opinion. I find the Reply-To munging to be very helpful. Who

Re: [gentoo-user] harmful "Reply-To" Munging on Gentoo mailing lists

2006-07-31 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 08:10:48PM -0400, Penguin Lover Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov squawked: > Who is in charge of the mailing lists and would be the best person to > suggest this to? Should I send this to a different gentoo-* list? Big discussion over this about 18 months ago. http://thread.gm

Re: [gentoo-user] harmful "Reply-To" Munging on Gentoo mailing lists

2006-07-31 Thread Nick Rout
It has been discussed before and IMHO should not change. Please if you want to discuss go somewhere else like IRC. On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:10:48 -0400 Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov wrote: > It has come to my attention that "Reply-To" Munging is not a good idea > to have on mailing lists: > http://w

[gentoo-user] harmful "Reply-To" Munging on Gentoo mailing lists

2006-07-31 Thread Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov
It has come to my attention that "Reply-To" Munging is not a good idea to have on mailing lists: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html . For example, in my gmail account I see something like this in the (prettified) header of each message from Gentoo's mailing lists: From: Marco Fabbri <

Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.1 liveCD

2006-07-31 Thread Mark Knecht
On 7/31/06, kashani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: > Releases are not very important for Gentoo, if you have a live > internet connection (which is not REQUIRED, but will make your system > a lot more useful with Gentoo) after the whole process you'll get the > latest Gentoo a

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Alexander Kirillov
> Even if I changed mirror (it worked for a while) I still have to download > packages manually on my windows pc and then trensfer the files. > It's strange: it download some packeges, but not some others. Can you give some examples? Maybe the packages that are not dow

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov
Resolving mi.mirror.garr.it... 1.0.0.0 mi.mirror.garr.it resolves to 193.206.139.34, maybe you have a DNS issue? Did you setup /etc/resolv.conf properly? Can you test "ping mi.mirror.garr.it" to make sure your machine can actually resolve it's IP properly? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Marco Fabbri
2006/8/1, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 7/31/06, Marco Fabbri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> The problem persists...>> Even if I changed mirror (it worked for a while) I still have to download > packages manually on my windows pc and then trensfer the files.> It's strange: it download some pack

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 7/31/06, Marco Fabbri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problem persists... Even if I changed mirror (it worked for a while) I still have to download packages manually on my windows pc and then trensfer the files. It's strange: it download some packeges, but not some others. Some packages are av

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Marco Fabbri
The problem persists... Even if I changed mirror (it worked for a while) I still have to download packages manually on my windows pc and then trensfer the files.It's strange: it download some packeges, but not some others. Some packages are available on some server and not in some others. Some pack

Re: [gentoo-user] boot stalls at 'mounting local file systems'

2006-07-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 7/31/06, Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: any have a hint, my gentoo desktop box stalls booting at 'mounting local file systems' for a sudden. there's no system config files i alerted, If you are using ldap, it can cause long delays for things that occur before networking is active when s

Re: [gentoo-user] neon: endless up-/down-grade

2006-07-31 Thread Steve Evans
On Monday 31 July 2006 07:24, Richard Fish wrote: > On 7/30/06, Andreas Schoelver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds good, ... > > but: I performed a revdep-rebuild in between which did the downgrade of > > neon to 0.24.7, but the remerge of rapidsvn failed then. > > Hmm, maybe try to "emerge --

[gentoo-user] boot stalls at 'mounting local file systems'

2006-07-31 Thread Martins
any have a hint, my gentoo desktop box stalls booting at 'mounting local file systems' for a sudden. there's no system config files i alerted, nothing at all. from win i see all my ext3 partitions, all VFAT are there too. whatshoul i look for? martins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing lis

Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.1 liveCD

2006-07-31 Thread kashani
Daniel da Veiga wrote: Releases are not very important for Gentoo, if you have a live internet connection (which is not REQUIRED, but will make your system a lot more useful with Gentoo) after the whole process you'll get the latest Gentoo anyway. I think the idea is to skip the five hour gcc

Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.1 liveCD

2006-07-31 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 7/31/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Since I've got to install a web server on an older machine (PIII) and this web pages suggest that 2006.1 will be released in August, http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/ I thought I'd ask if anybody can point me to an early release or testin

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Marco Fabbri
Thanks Richard! It works!I am in debt!2006/7/31, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: You should probably try setting a different mirror for GENTOO_MIRRORSin /etc/make.conf.  You can see the current mirror list here:http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml -Richard-- Marco

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 7/31/06, Marco Fabbri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everybody. I am new in Gentoo's world: I have just installed it. Welcome My trouble is in downloading packages went I emege it. I can ping distfiles.gentoo.org, but it doesn't download anything. Output is: You should probably try s

[gentoo-user] Emerge doesn't download stuff

2006-07-31 Thread Marco Fabbri
Hi everybody.I am new in Gentoo's world: I have just installed it.My trouble is in downloading packages went I emege it. I can ping distfiles.gentoo.org, but it doesn't download anything. Output is: ***Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org...1.0.0.0Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org|1.0.0.0|:80... failed:

[gentoo-user] 2006.1 liveCD

2006-07-31 Thread James
Hello, Since I've got to install a web server on an older machine (PIII) and this web pages suggest that 2006.1 will be released in August, http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/ I thought I'd ask if anybody can point me to an early release or testing release of 2006.1 liveCD or just a guess

Re: [gentoo-user] Subject: [gentoo-user-de] Xawtv/Scantv refuses cooperation

2006-07-31 Thread Richard Fish
On 7/31/06, Bertram Scharpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, on my system Xawtv is installed with USE="zvbi", so that I have `scantv' enclosed. Anyway, it doesn't work: # scantv [...] vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] open /dev/vbi: Invalid argument "strace -e open scantv" might give more inf

[gentoo-user] Subject: [gentoo-user-de] Xawtv/Scantv refuses cooperation

2006-07-31 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, on my system Xawtv is installed with USE="zvbi", so that I have `scantv' enclosed. Anyway, it doesn't work: # scantv [...] vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] open /dev/vbi: Invalid argument # I wonder how this error message could arise because of the following: # dd if=/dev/vbi bs=8 co

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation questions

2006-07-31 Thread Collins Richey
On 7/31/06, Randy Barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Collins Richey wrote: > The only gotcha I found was with the xorg modular installation. After > completing the basic installation, I did an 'emerge xfce4' and let > portage calculate all the dependancies including xorg. When all was > said and d

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Crute
On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not here to start a war over the merits of any one MTA... but I > think it's worth reading DJBs rebuttal of the accusations made by > Postfix's author. Well, that page that I quoted from is NOT from the Postfix author. It's from somebo

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome and mono-tools blocking

2006-07-31 Thread Jesús Guerrero
El Lunes, 31 de Julio de 2006 18:58, Richard Fish escribió: > On 7/31/06, Jesús Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I tinkered a bit with this and came along with this ebuild (i have no > > idea > > You could have saved yourself some trouble by reading the ChangeLog > for yelp, which contains:

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail

2006-07-31 Thread Alexander Skwar
Michael Crute schrieb: On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Crute wrote: > On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: >> > Which is the best for organization mail server. >> >> NOT qmail - too many holes and not good perfo

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail

2006-07-31 Thread kashani
Alexander Skwar wrote: Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: Which is the best for organization mail server. NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. Some clarification on the security of qmail: qmail has no known holes be default other than still playing the MTA game by 1998

Re: [gentoo-user] dev/tty1 permission denied

2006-07-31 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Mike: > Alex Fortwinder wrote: > > When I start screen as a user, I got the following: > > Cannot open your teminal 'dev/tty1' - please check. > > When I run w3m in console it says that permission denied to dev/tty1 > > How to set up permission? Thanks > > Alex > > chmod 666 /dev/tty1 Or

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome and mono-tools blocking

2006-07-31 Thread Jesús Guerrero
El Lunes, 31 de Julio de 2006 08:08, Andreas Schoelver escribió: > Hi Jesús > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:11:30 +0200 > Jesús Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > > > My favorite browser is firefox, but how do I tell both of mono-tools > > > and gnome about that? > > > > > > Andreas > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] dev/tty1 permission denied

2006-07-31 Thread Mike
Alex Fortwinder wrote: When I start screen as a user, I got the following: Cannot open your teminal 'dev/tty1' - please check. When I run w3m in console it says that permission denied to dev/tty1 How to set up permission? Thanks Alex chmod 666 /dev/tty1 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] dev/tty1 permission denied

2006-07-31 Thread Alex Fortwinder
When I start screen as a user, I got the following: Cannot open your teminal 'dev/tty1' - please check. When I run w3m in console it says that permission denied to dev/tty1 How to set up permission? Thanks Alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Crute
On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Crute wrote: > On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: >> > Which is the best for organization mail server. >> >> NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. > I would b

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user

2006-07-31 Thread Jody Storme
On Monday 31 July 2006 16:28, Alex Fortwinder wrote: > Thanks again, but... nothing is changed? > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo -l > User nabokov may run the following commands on this host: > (ALL) ALL > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ pppoe-stop > bash: pppoe-stop: command not found > > Try "sudo pppo

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user

2006-07-31 Thread Alex Fortwinder
Never mind, I figured that one out. Thanks for the help. On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:28:49 +0400 Alex Fortwinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks again, but... nothing is changed? > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo -l > User nabokov may run the following commands on this host: > (ALL) ALL > [E

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user

2006-07-31 Thread Alex Fortwinder
Thanks again, but... nothing is changed? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo -l User nabokov may run the following commands on this host: (ALL) ALL [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ pppoe-stop bash: pppoe-stop: command not found On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:03:10 -0400 "ellotheth rimmwen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail

2006-07-31 Thread Alexander Skwar
Michael Crute wrote: > On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: >> > Which is the best for organization mail server. >> >> NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. > I would beg to differ with the statement about security. Qmail is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation questions

2006-07-31 Thread Randy Barlow
Collins Richey wrote: > The only gotcha I found was with the xorg modular installation. After > completing the basic installation, I did an 'emerge xfce4' and let > portage calculate all the dependancies including xorg. When all was > said and done, I discovered that the automatic dependancy select

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail

2006-07-31 Thread Ronald Vincent Vazquez
On Mon, July 31, 2006 8:28 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: > >> Which is the best for organization mail server. > > NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. > sendmail has had numerous holes "way back then". And I > dislike the configuration "language".

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail

2006-07-31 Thread Jonathan Wright
Michael Crute wrote: I would beg to differ with the statement about security. Qmail is arguably THE MOST secure mail server (http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html). It may be 'secure' from that respect, but not from any other. In it's default settings, it's far too accepting and is a pain to cl

[gentoo-user] ImportError: No module named PIL.Image (python, PIL, zope, mymediamanager)

2006-07-31 Thread sguglia
hello! after installing a zope instance, I emerged mymediamanager. My zopectl debug log follows: Starting debugger (the name "app" is bound to the top-level Zope object) 2006-07-31 15:34:11 ERROR Zope Could not import Products.MyMediaManager Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/zo

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Crute
On 7/31/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: > Which is the best for organization mail server. NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. sendmail has had numerous holes "way back then". And I dislike the configuration "language". So, I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user

2006-07-31 Thread ellotheth rimmwen
On 7/31/06, Fabrice Delliaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Sudo_config There's an official guide, as well: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/sudo-guide.xml -- ellotheth rimmwen * monjoy * -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user

2006-07-31 Thread Alex Fortwinder
Done. Example on how to use it? I tried sodo -u to no avail. Thanks Alex. On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:19:57 +0200 Fabrice Delliaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex Fortwinder a écrit : > > command not found. As root everything is ok. Suggestions? > > # emerge sudo > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail and qmail

2006-07-31 Thread Alexander Skwar
Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: > Which is the best for organization mail server. NOT qmail - too many holes and not good performancewise. sendmail has had numerous holes "way back then". And I dislike the configuration "language". So, I'd suggest postfix or exim. I personally use Postfix always

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user

2006-07-31 Thread Fabrice Delliaux
Alex Fortwinder a écrit : > command not found. As root everything is ok. Suggestions? # emerge sudo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Can't run pppoe-start as user

2006-07-31 Thread Alex Fortwinder
command not found. As root everything is ok. Suggestions? Alex. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] configurtion error

2006-07-31 Thread Fabrice Delliaux
Hi, Alex Fortwinder a écrit : > I got this when switching the user. Any advice would help. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-366499.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] configurtion error

2006-07-31 Thread Alex Fortwinder
I got this when switching the user. Any advice would help. Thanks, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ su root Password: configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'MO

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean screw up

2006-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:29:06 -0700, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: > If you run > > emerge -av --noreplace > > on all the packages that > > emerge -av --depclean > > wants to clean, then depclean will no longer complain. This is equivalent to fixing low oil pressure in y