[gentoo-user] Seeking advise for gentoo install/upgrade
I have a bit of a situation as I plan to do upgrade/install gentoo for the following systems: (All these systems are currently running gentoo (2.6.11) with the portage snapshot of 20051009) System Processor./HW some info. [1] Cyrix c7 Runs mythtv, head-less, udev Mini-ITX based very slow compilation [2] AMD64 My desktop, devfs, 32-bit nForce4 based nvidia binary drivers Plan to install 64-bit gentoo ina separate partition [3] P3 - compaq desktop, dual boot with win98 laptop working (old) wine installation, devfs [4] P4Planned gentoo install, dual boot with winxp I would like to upgrade/install gentoo on all these systems to the current version ( Mythtv-0.20, X.org 7.1, gcc 4.1, kernel =2.6.18) . All of them have only the few strictly needed apps, no bloat. I have a few questions in this regard - As the mythtv box is very slow for compilations, is it possible to build a binary distribution for that configuration on a differ machine (system [2]) ?Last time (Oct.2005) when the stage3 install was done, I had to put the CFLAGS as march=i586 -m3dnow for a stable system. How to do that in a binary distribution build? - As the network connection is a slow dialup connection, I would like to download everything before the upgrade. I have with me 2006.1 i686 and AMD64 livecd, portage-20061025 snapshot, i686 stage3 tarballs, X.org 7.1, gcc 4.1 distfiles. Plan to start with 2006.1install and then switch to a more current snapshot. At what point in the install should I switch ? - Are there any hints for choosing a portage snapshot ? I took portage-20061025 since it was downloaded couple of weeks back. - Are the i686 release source tarballs ok for 64-bit gentoo also ? Any other advise /hints ? Thanks sathish -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Multi-user pop3 mail delivery
So if a mail is sent to A and B and only A is a valid user, both copies go to postmaster? Exactly. This wasn't a problem as one employee would sift through the postmaster email every day, that was until spammers started spamming randomly generated addresses at their domain. She received all these too :-/ Not so, it forwards all mail for unknown users at one of your domains to a specified user, so I have luser_relay=neil to get all such mail sent to myself. Ahh, I se what you mean. This howerver would lead to the same issue I have above .. over populating the email with fake addresses and a load of spam. Before we get into the spam topic ... this is being sorted soon ;-) Ah, I see now. Having never used fetchmail in multi-drop mode (RTFMing is a good way of making sure I don;t even attempt things like this) I don;t know where you'd go next. It is not fetchmail's fault ...it's multidrop... an email account was never designed for several users, as in several accounts coming into one, and then being split again after download. This is in fact what is happening. MUltidrop is simply a solution to the problem, bt it'snot failproof and stuff goes wrong. I thought there might be a better way to solve the problem though, but the solution is simple: get them onto a real system ;-) Anyway, thanks for your input! Greetings, Ralph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How come my 'esearch' isn't updated when I emerge something until the next 'esync'?!
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:35:28 +0100 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: either. As an extra bonus eupdatedb (which does look go through the vdb too) is a lot slower that its eix equivalent (update-eix). ;) So can anyone mention any advantage of esearch compared to eix? I like esearch's compact output more than eix's. It shows if you can/need update the package and if it is masked. For example, here 'U' shows that I have installed older version of screen so I should update it. And 'M' in next line shows that screenie is masked. (Descriptions are cut.) $ esearch -cF app-misc/screen [ U] app-misc/screen (4.0.3): Screen is a full-screen ... [MN] app-misc/screenie (1.30.0): Screenie is a small and ... eix gives following output on the same request: $ eix -cA app-misc/screen [I] app-misc/screen (4.0.2-r5): Screen is a full-screen ... [N] app-misc/screenie (): Screenie is a small and ... Found 2 matches. Robert -- Robert Cernansky E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 problem. (Partly SOLVED)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Erik wrote: I had this problem for a while as well. Adding 'noapic' to my boot options fixed it for me. I think it's a problem with certain motherboards, like the Asus M2NPV-VM. Thank you Erik. That worked and allowed me to boot with the Minimal Install Disc. I was able to install Gentoo. Now I have a different problem. Before I go into it, I will describe my system. I have 1 250 GB SATA II HDD (which has Windows XP on it), and one 160 GB IDE HDD that I placed in an enclosure, so now it is a USB 2.0 drive (this is where Gentoo is installed). When I boot up the Install Disc, the Windows HDD shows up as /dev/sda, and the USB drive shows up as /dev/sdb. I have tried both Grub and Lilo and when I try to boot it, I get a very similar error - I've tried all sorts of configurations for the boot managers, and still it will not boot. It will boot from the Gentoo Boot CD. The message I get is like this: VFS: Cannot open root device 813 or unknown-block(8,19) Please append a correct root= boot option Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,19) Any suggestions would be welcome. TIA. Regards, Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFFXusvUx1jS/ORyCsRCLb/AJ40NjPOxkof9IN5l5qlH3QZwCg/NACdGk4N jWSLAqA6ooBSTdIkZtebGmA= =hyGv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Resize /
· Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alexander Skwar wrote: snip The advantage of EVMS over LVM in this case would be, that he wouldn't have to reformat/repartition and would still be able to resize the partition/filesystem, wouldn't he? snip Yes, with reiserfs, this can be done. But also with every other normal filesystem besides ext2. Alexander Skwar Somewhat on topic here. How hard is it to do this with no previous knowledge of how it works? Impossible to do. Nothing at all can be done without knowledge. IMO a better question is: How hard is it, to get proper knowledge? Answer: Easy, thanks to the excellent LVM howto. See http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ I am constantly running into the same thing the OP is and having to move things around. Very basic hint: Make your filesystems as small as possible and enlarge them, when required. This means, that you'd start out with a lot of unallocated space. Currently I have two 80GB drives. Here is my partition scheme at the moment: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # mount /dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda1 on /boot type reiserfs (rw,noatime,notail) /dev/hda7 on /home type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda8 on /usr type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda9 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw) /dev/hda10 on /data type reiserfs (rw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 9765136 1896004 7869132 20% / /dev/hda1 146612 45880100732 32% /boot /dev/hda7 9765136 1236144 8528992 13% /home /dev/hda8 9765136 4269660 5495476 44% /usr /dev/hda9 5859272 3052004 2807268 53% /usr/portage /dev/hda1043762436 10667796 33094640 25% /data Hm. Those are IMO too large. Generally, I'd make the filesystems so large, that they are about 80% filled. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # As I've said often before: I'd use filesystems for /, /var, /opt, /boot, /usr and /home. And actually I also use seperate filesystems for Gentoo stuff. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ df Dateisystem 1K-Blöcke Benutzt Verfügbar Ben% Eingehängt auf /dev/hda3 404832193740211092 48% / devshm 355300 66108289192 19% /dev/shm temp355300 200355100 1% /tmp /dev/hda723300 8388 13709 38% /boot /dev/mapper/sys-Opt 531776477360 54416 90% /opt /dev/mapper/sys-Var 713500253360460140 36% /var /dev/mapper/sys-Gentoo 4075188 3846720228468 95% /Gentoo /dev/mapper/sys-Ccache 2067124 1925708141416 94% /Gentoo/ccache /dev/mapper/sys-PortageBuild 2097084 82032 2015052 4% /Gentoo/Portage/build /dev/mapper/sys-USR5242716 2701260 2541456 52% /usr /dev/mapper/sys-Sources 1142744690160452584 61% /usr/src /dev/mapper/sys-Home 1834948 1104528730420 61% /home /dev/mapper/sys-GentooAlt 1187796 1108112 79684 94% /alt /dev/mapper/sys-MediaNeu 597992 33168564824 6% /data/media /dev/mapper/sys-CD--GN--WMAG 261797243647 18150 94% /data/CD-GN-WMAG /dev/mapper/sys-Eigene_Dateien 717596553204164392 78% /data/Eigene_Dateien svcdir 512 200 312 40% /var/lib/init.d [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo vgdisplay sys --- Volume group --- VG Name sys System ID Formatlvm2 Metadata Areas2 Metadata Sequence No 623 VG Access read/write VG Status resizable MAX LV0 Cur LV12 Open LV 12 Max PV0 Cur PV2 Act PV2 VG Size 27,39 GB PE Size 4,00 MB Total PE 7012 Alloc PE / Size 5023 / 19,62 GB Free PE / Size 1989 / 7,77 GB VG UUID MtUu25-c1G2-w28Q-C2md-Gq99-IIMw-8WNTAq Alexander Skwar -- Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and think what nobody else has thought. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] undoing emerge --sync
Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:00:09 +0200, Sergio Polini wrote: May I undo an emerge --sync? Only be restoring from a previously made backup or another computer that you haven't synced yet. I apologize for my delay. What have I to backup to be able to restore a previous sync? Are /usr/portage and /etc/conf.d enough? Thanks Sergio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] undoing emerge --sync
On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 19:57 +0100, Sergio Polini wrote: Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:00:09 +0200, Sergio Polini wrote: May I undo an emerge --sync? Only be restoring from a previously made backup or another computer that you haven't synced yet. I apologize for my delay. What have I to backup to be able to restore a previous sync? Are /usr/portage and /etc/conf.d enough? Thanks Sergio Theoretically, couldn't you just go to a Gentoo mirror and download a portage snapshot from before you ran emerge --sync? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How come my 'esearch' isn't updated when I emerge something until the next 'esync'?!
On 11/18/06, Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eix gives following output on the same request: $ eix -cA app-misc/screen [I] app-misc/screen (4.0.2-r5): Screen is a full-screen ... [N] app-misc/screenie (): Screenie is a small and ... Hmm, eix 0.8.1 on my system produces: [N] app-misc/screenie ((~)1.30.0): ... So it shows the version and that it is keyword masked. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NTFS vs ext3
* Shawn Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-11-17 09:10]: In ( what seems like ) similar situatoins, I've just let the partition that I want to share b/w OSes just be a NTFS partition if say, I were dual-booting my machine ( Linux Windows ). IMHO, Linux support for NTFS is fine, meaning that I've not experienced any trouble related to doing that. You have also experienced satisfactory writing speed? You're using ntfs-3g? -- Daniel Vrcic -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] undoing emerge --sync
Michael Sullivan: On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 19:57 +0100, Sergio Polini wrote: Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:00:09 +0200, Sergio Polini wrote: May I undo an emerge --sync? Only be restoring from a previously made backup or another computer that you haven't synced yet. I apologize for my delay. What have I to backup to be able to restore a previous sync? Are /usr/portage and /etc/conf.d enough? Thanks Sergio Theoretically, couldn't you just go to a Gentoo mirror and download a portage snapshot from before you ran emerge --sync? Yes, but I'ld like to return to a tested sync. Perhaps I've been too concise ;) I have two Gentoo systems, stable and testing. I'ld like to test a new sync in the testing system, and: a) if it does not work well to me, restore the previous working sync from the stable system, and wait for a new sync; b) if it works well, copy the working sync to the stable system. This is why I'm wondering if copying /usr/portage and /etc/conf.d would be enough. Sergio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't emerge blender
Hi, I returned to gentoo to be able to install blender 2.4*. Well, the ebuild is there, but ... emerge blender ... g++ -pipe -funsigned-char -march=i686 -O2 -pipe -Wall -W -DGAMEBLENDER=1 -DUSE_BULLET -DUSE_SUMO_SOLID -DNDEBUG -DFTGL_STATIC_LIBRARY -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/FTGL -I/var/tmp/portage/blender-2.41-r1/work/build/linux2/source/blender/ftfont -Isource/blender/ftfont -Isource/blender/ftfont -I/var/tmp/portage/blender-2.41-r1/work/build/linux2/source/blender/ftfont/intern -Isource/blender/ftfont/intern -Isource/blender/ftfont/intern -I/var/tmp/portage/blender-2.41-r1/work/build/linux2/source/blender/blenkernel -Isource/blender/blenkernel -Isource/blender/blenkernel -I/var/tmp/portage/blender-2.41-r1/work/build/linux2/source/blender/blenlib -Isource/blender/blenlib -Isource/blender/blenlib -I/var/tmp/portage/blender-2.41-r1/work/build/linux2/source/blender/makesdna -Isource/blender/makesdna -Isource/blender/makesdna -c -o /var/tmp/portage/blender-2.41-r1/work/build/linux2/source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_Api.o source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_Api.cpp In file included from source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_Api.cpp:44: source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_TTFont.h:40:28: error: FTGLPixmapFont.h: No such file or directory source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_TTFont.h:41:29: error: FTGLTextureFont.h: No such file or directory source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_TTFont.h:115: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'FTFont' with no type source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_TTFont.h:115: error: expected ';' before '*' token source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_TTFont.h:117: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'FTFont' with no type source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_TTFont.h:117: error: expected ';' before '*' token source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_TTFont.h:118: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'FTFont' with no type source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_TTFont.h:118: error: expected ';' before '*' token source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_TTFont.h:119: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'FTFont' with no type source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_TTFont.h:119: error: expected ';' before '*' token scons: *** [/var/tmp/portage/blender-2.41-r1/work/build/linux2/source/blender/ftfont/intern/FTF_Api.o] Error 1 scons: building terminated because of errors. !!! ERROR: media-gfx/blender-2.41-r1 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1546: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 937: Called src_compile blender-2.41-r1.ebuild, line 105: Called die !!! (no error message) !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. I've done so far: - installed from the 206.1 life CD - changed the USE flags due to my needs - emerged sync - emerged newuse There is a bug mentioned on blender.org, that 2.4* won't build with gcc 4.1.*, but the error seems to be something different. I had a look into FTF_TTFont.h. The files FTGLPixmapFont.h and FTGLTextureFont.h are in fact included from there but they are located in /var/tmp/portage/blender-2.41-r1/work/blender/extern/bFTGL/include/, which is not amongst the -I switches for gcc. I solved the problem (for me with a quick and dirty trick). I copied the files in the dir mentioned above into ~/blenderincs, started the emerge and fired ``cp ~/blenderincs/*.h /var/tmp/portage/blender-2.41-r1/work/blender/source/blender/ftfont/intern'', which is amongst the -I switches. The build went well and blender seems to be up and running. Regards Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.2 masked?
When I run 'emerge -Davu world' I get this message (and the emerge fails): !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy gnome-base/gnome-libs have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 (masked by: package.mask) # Saleem Abdulrasool [EMAIL PROTECTED] (16 Nov 2006) # GNOME 1.x Removal Mask (15 Dec 2006) I assume that this means gnome-libs-1.4.2 is going to be removed in one month. but lots of packages directly depend on gnome-libs: # equery depends gnome-base/gnome-libs [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-base/gnome-libs... ] x11-misc/gtkdiff-1.8.0-r2 gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r4 gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37 gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6 app-misc/gfontview-0.5.0-r6 gnome-extra/guppi-0.40.3-r3 dev-perl/gtk-perl-glade-0.7008-r1 dev-perl/gtk-perl-0.7009-r2 media-libs/gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-r5 dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.11-r1 Some of these packages have alternate version, what about the others? Have those packages been made instantly obsolete? What exactl are users supposed to do? I could find no guidance on the official Gentoo site, nor on the Gentoo Wiki. --- Vladimir -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 masked?
[Subject corrected to gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 masked?] --- Vladimir On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 21:28 -0800, Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote: When I run 'emerge -Davu world' I get this message (and the emerge fails): !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy gnome-base/gnome-libs have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 (masked by: package.mask) # Saleem Abdulrasool [EMAIL PROTECTED] (16 Nov 2006) # GNOME 1.x Removal Mask (15 Dec 2006) I assume that this means gnome-libs-1.4.2 is going to be removed in one month. but lots of packages directly depend on gnome-libs: # equery depends gnome-base/gnome-libs [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-base/gnome-libs... ] x11-misc/gtkdiff-1.8.0-r2 gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r4 gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37 gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6 app-misc/gfontview-0.5.0-r6 gnome-extra/guppi-0.40.3-r3 dev-perl/gtk-perl-glade-0.7008-r1 dev-perl/gtk-perl-0.7009-r2 media-libs/gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-r5 dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.11-r1 Some of these packages have alternate version, what about the others? Have those packages been made instantly obsolete? What exactl are users supposed to do? I could find no guidance on the official Gentoo site, nor on the Gentoo Wiki. --- Vladimir -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Reformat/repartition USB flash drive to ext2/3?
I am annoyed with using vfat on my USB flash drives because I cannot get proper permissions and ownership. Not for the security (meaningless on a drive that easy to steal, unless encrypted), but annoying anyway. Is there any technical reason I should not repartition it as something else -- ext3 or xfs, say -- and allow executables and such? ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems getting started with vmware
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 09:05:09AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Walter, did you actually get a license somehow? When I look on their pages unders `product licensing'. A `VMware Product Licensing' page appears with no real indication of which license or even what product is being discussed... at least the names do not coincide with anything in portage. Further it appears to expect the reader to already have some kind of codes in hand. In fact the whole setup there is massively confusing. A bewildering array of products all with very similar names and no real definitions of how each is different. That's what turned me off, and I didn't bother. I had wanted to make a post just like yours, but I figured that I was coming out of this thread looking like a professional ranter, so I decided to keep quiet. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://techsec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reformat/repartition USB flash drive to ext2/3?
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I am annoyed with using vfat on my USB flash drives because I cannot get proper permissions and ownership. Not for the security (meaningless on a drive that easy to steal, unless encrypted), but annoying anyway. Is there any technical reason I should not repartition it as something else -- ext3 or xfs, say -- and allow executables and such? ++ kevin Most people format their flash drives as vfat for interoperability, since all the major operating systems can read from and write to vfat filesystems. If you know you'll only be plugging it into Linux systems, then go right ahead. As far as ownership goes, remember that [ug]ids are stored numerically on the device, so a file that's owned by your user on your system may well be owned by (random example) apache on someone else's. I seem to remember reading somewhere that one shouldn't use a journalling file system on flash-based devices such as USB drives (i.e. you should use ext2 rather than ext3), but I can't find the reference right now. Can anyone clarify this for me? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.2 masked?
On 11/19/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same response as gtkdiff. Do you actually use them? If not, why do you care? Apologies for the out-of-context line that should have been removed before I clicked send. Call it a case of email Tourrettes. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reformat/repartition USB flash drive to ext2/3?
On 11/18/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to remember reading somewhere that one shouldn't use a journalling file system on flash-based devices such as USB drives (i.e. you should use ext2 rather than ext3), but I can't find the reference right now. Can anyone clarify this for me? That is my understanding as well, because flash devices are only good for so many writes before they fail, and journalling filesystems write consistently to the same area for every metadata update. So I would go with ext2, and make sure to mount it with the noatime option. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
