Re: [gentoo-user] using package.provided

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:36:59 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: package.provided is intended for use when you install something without portage - it's your way of telling portage the package is installed even though it's not in the database. What is that good for? Say I write my own app (like the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:16:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I can't believe you are advocating either of those solutions. It means you retain 500M worth of tgz'ed portage tree for just in case an ebuild leaves the tree. Any custom changes you make to the tree are wiped out with the next

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:10:58 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: I'm starting to wonder if you missed this mail on the subject: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/175964/focus=176095 Possibly, I'm still missing mails from Gentoo lists, although the problem seems less than

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean and DuN world loop

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:49:06 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote: emerge --depclean removes perl-core/DB_File. emerge -DuN world installs perl-core/DB_File. Add --tree to the second command. -- Neil Bothwick There is absolutely no substitute for a genuine lack of preparation. signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 22 December 2006 11:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:16:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I can't believe you are advocating either of those solutions. It means you retain 500M worth of tgz'ed portage tree for just in case an ebuild leaves the tree. Any custom changes

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean and DuN world loop

2006-12-22 Thread Daniel Iliev
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:49:06 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote: emerge --depclean removes perl-core/DB_File. emerge -DuN world installs perl-core/DB_File. Add --tree to the second command. Here we go: emerge -DuN --tree world -pv These are the packages that

[gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi users, some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 since it became stable. However after this operation, as most of you know, /etc/hotplug/blacklist stops working. There have been reportings on this http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130766 but since now, no reliable solution have been

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 22/12/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:10:58 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: I'm starting to wonder if you missed this mail on the subject: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/175964/focus=176095 Possibly, I'm still missing mails from Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:35:58 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Except it's not 500MB, as you'll see by looking at the snapshots directory on any Gentoo mirror. Of course, the fact that portage trees for the last couple of weeks are nicely tarred up on all the Gentoo mirrors makes this process

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean and DuN world loop

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:54:24 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote: Calculating world dependencies . . done! [nomerge ] mail-client/squirrelmail-1.4.8 USE=crypt mysql nls spell ssl vhosts -filter -ldap -postgres [binary N] perl-core/DB_File-1.814 This looks like

RE: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)
-Original Message- From: Marco Calviani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 December 2006 10:36 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting Hi users, some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 since it became stable. However after this

RE: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)
-Original Message- From: Marco Calviani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 December 2006 10:36 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting Hi users, some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 since it became stable. However after this

RE: [gentoo-user] Vmware player startup error message

2006-12-22 Thread Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)
-Original Message- From: Kevin O'Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 December 2006 19:54 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Vmware player startup error message When I start vmware player, I always get this message: /opt/vmware/player/lib/bin/vmplayer:

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Nelson, Can you divert output to /dev/null? Or cron a job that chops out all those errors? Those are good ideas, but i'm questioning how is it possible to mark stable a so important package that has such improvements over the previous stable one, without good amplification of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 22 December 2006 11:40, Jeff Rollin wrote: On 22/12/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:10:58 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: I'm starting to wonder if you missed this mail on the subject:

[gentoo-user] etc-update and /etc/portage/package.*

2006-12-22 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi, It's the first time that etc-update changes something in my /etc/portage dir. It has changed x11-themes/emerald-themes cause it has changed its category and removed ksudoku... I undestand first change, but not second one, so could someone explain what checks etc-update in that dir? many

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Jeff Rollin
It is a known problem, discussed in its own bug and on gentoo-dev. A lot of people (like me), don't get all the mails sent to gentoo-[user,dev,amd64...]. For some unknown reasons that mails are dropped and never delivered. And no, the spam filters are not part of the problem. -- OK, sorry.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 22 December 2006 12:36, Jeff Rollin wrote: It is a known problem, discussed in its own bug and on gentoo-dev. A lot of people (like me), don't get all the mails sent to gentoo-[user,dev,amd64...]. For some unknown reasons that mails are dropped and never delivered. And no, the

Re: [gentoo-user] using package.provided

2006-12-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 22 December 2006 09:03, Alan McKinnon wrote: package.provided is not there for that purpose. It's there for cases when a package should be present but portage hasn't installed it (like highly custom kernels) and you don't intend for portage to ever install it either. But portage insists

Re: [gentoo-user] Misconfigured system

2006-12-22 Thread David Relson
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:45:07 -0800 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: ...[snip]... Oops. I should have known I could answer my own question with a little more digging. I now see that there's hostname hostname --fqdn dnsdomainname and they all work by looking in /etc/host.conf, and if (as

[gentoo-user] webapp-config update

2006-12-22 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi, after update squirrelmail using webapp-config, I saw this note: # webapp-config -U -h mail.emergetux.net squirrelmail 1.4.9a * Upgrading squirrelmail-1.4.8 to squirrelmail-1.4.9a * Installed by root on 2006-09-07 11:22:04 * Config files owned by 0:0 !cfgpro

Re: [gentoo-user] Need help setting up HostAP and Intersil Prism card via PCMCIA adapter

2006-12-22 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:26:29 -0800 Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this working for years, but some UDEV or something changed and now my wlan0 is gone and I can't figure out how to get it working again. Did you actually try what David answered to your last question

Re: [gentoo-user] 10-local.rules and udev-103

2006-12-22 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:51:58 +0100 Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and now i've changed it to be: SUBSYSTEMS==scsi,KERNEL==sd*,ATTR{vendor}==FUJIFILM,ATTR{model} ==USB-DRIVEUNIT,NAME==%k,SYMLINK==camera read and understand man udev: matching is not assignment! The first ones

Re: [gentoo-user] webapp-config update

2006-12-22 Thread Naga
On Friday 22 December 2006 13:26, Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, after update squirrelmail using webapp-config, I saw this note: [...] * To complete your install, you need to run the following command(s): ^^ *

Re: [gentoo-user] Mysql vs Mysql-community...

2006-12-22 Thread Thomas Rösner
kashani wrote: Jerry McBride wrote: Can someone tell me the major differences between mysql and mysql-community? Thank you, in advance... P.S. before you beat me up too badly, I've googled this one to death and not found anything that satisfies my curiousity. I've been trying to figure

Re: [gentoo-user] 10-local.rules and udev-103

2006-12-22 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Hans, well, you're correct. The other thing i had to change to have it working is the ATTR -- ATTRS change. Best regards, mc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:36:07 +0100 Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 since it became stable. However after this operation, as most of you know, /etc/hotplug/blacklist stops working. There have been reportings on this

Re: [gentoo-user] webapp-config update

2006-12-22 Thread Arnau Bria
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:48:09 +0100 Naga Naga wrote: On Friday 22 December 2006 13:26, Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, after update squirrelmail using webapp-config, I saw this note: [...] But, what command does it refer to? The following :) That is

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean and DuN world loop

2006-12-22 Thread Daniel Iliev
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:54:24 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote: Calculating world dependencies . . done! [nomerge ] mail-client/squirrelmail-1.4.8 USE=crypt mysql nls spell ssl vhosts -filter -ldap -postgres [binary N] perl-core/DB_File-1.814

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]:Evolution/OpenOffice spell checking not working

2006-12-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/21/06, Ric de France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, There's some dictionaries you've got to include to allow for the spell check to work in OO.o... From memory, try: # emerge -DNuva aspell-en # emerge -DNuva hunspell I'm sure there's more to include, but I can't remember them. Don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Mark Knecht wrote: if binary packages were built and stored in some reasonable location then I could probably prune out things that I'm not worried about, But then, one day, you'll see that you've pruned something you shouldn't have, something that one of the things you did keep needs as a

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Alan McKinnon wrote: Any custom changes you make to the tree are wiped out with the next --sync anyway, Who is talking about making custom changes? Who would make such changes to the main /usr/portage tree anyway? We're talking about a simple user here, no extras, no frills, no adaptations.

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI frustration

2006-12-22 Thread fire-eyes
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:38, James wrote: Hello, I've been trying to get 3D working on a amd64(pci-3e) mobo that has an ATI 1900 video card: TI Technologies Inc R580 [Radeon X1900 XT] Primary I first setup the radeon driver and it crawled with bzflag (the 3D software I test with).

[gentoo-user] Default locale/charset changed after update?

2006-12-22 Thread Grant Edwards
Sometime in the past week or two, doing and emerge sync/update appears to have changed the default charset from iso-8859 to UTF8. There are still too many apps I use everyday that don't support UTF8, so this was a problem. Creating /etc/env.d/02locale and running env-update fixed the problem,

Re: [gentoo-user] Reboots ok...but no Shutdown

2006-12-22 Thread Douglas Linford
This can be marked solved, thanks to DaleI recompiled my kernel to include Power Management with ACPI and my box now shutsdown normally. Douglas On 12/21/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nelson, David (ED, PARD) wrote: What filesystems do you have mounted usually? David *Note: These

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:45:40 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote: if binary packages were built and stored in some reasonable location then I could probably prune out things that I'm not worried about, They are stored wherever you tell portage to store them. But then, one day, you'll see

[gentoo-user] Re: using package.provided

2006-12-22 Thread reader
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You need to learn more about portage. Read: man portage man 5 portage man ebuild man 5 ebuild Now I have a better idea how things are meant to work... but if I want to violate that... by that I mean ..not work on my own ebuild enough to begin to

[gentoo-user] Makefile+wine problem

2006-12-22 Thread CapSel
I'm getting this kind of error with wine 0.9.25 and 0.9.27. On .25 it is on same directory, and on .27 on different. My friend _compiled_ wine with same USE flags, but he has pre 4.1 gcc. I can't find on google similar bug with wine, but there were same errors in other projects but soloved by

[gentoo-user] Re: Default locale/charset changed after update?

2006-12-22 Thread Grant Edwards
Sometime in the past week or two, doing and emerge sync/update appears to have changed the default charset from iso-8859 to UTF8. There are still too many apps I use everyday that don't support UTF8, so this was a problem. Creating /etc/env.d/02locale and running env-update fixed the

RE: [gentoo-user] Apple keyboards with Gentoo

2006-12-22 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\) wrote: I may be preaching to the converted, but have you tried Ctrl-Alt-Fx keys to try and get a console? Does the keyboard have any odd switches to turn the F keys on? My logitech keyboard does - to switch between hotkeys and Fx keys.

[gentoo-user] Unicode fonts

2006-12-22 Thread A. Khattri
Does anyone know of a good all-round font to use for a unicode console? Ideally, I want to be able to display mostly European languages (though, if there is a font out there that can deal with Asian languages too, that would be great ;-) -- A -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] working with overlays

2006-12-22 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Neil Bothwick wrote: Overlays are there specifically for people who need something different from the standard portage tree. They are hardly difficult to use, Not difficult, but it is clumsy: mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/category/package ## Dont't copy all ebuilds, just the one to be tweaked:

Re: [gentoo-user] Unicode fonts

2006-12-22 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Friday 22 December 2006 19:40, A. Khattri wrote: Does anyone know of a good all-round font to use for a unicode console? Ideally, I want to be able to display mostly European languages (though, if there is a font out there that can deal with Asian languages too, that would be great ;-)

[gentoo-user] Re: ATI frustration

2006-12-22 Thread James
fire-eyes sgtphou at fire-eyes.org writes: I've been trying to get 3D working on a amd64(pci-3e) mobo that has an ATI 1900 video card: TI Technologies Inc R580 [Radeon X1900 XT] Primary Yep. This is a known problem and there have been bugs open on it for a while. Not sure why it isn't

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Hans, $ echo alias evbug off /etc/modules.d/my-aliases $ update-modules thanks this solution is working. Will this be the solution for the future or a blacklist file will be reintroduced? Cheers, mc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting

2006-12-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/22/06, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks this solution is working. Will this be the solution for the future or a blacklist file will be reintroduced? If you don't want udev to load any modules at all, you can set RC_COLDPLUG=no in /etc/conf.d/rc. [1] This should restore the

Re: [gentoo-user] Has Linux jumped the Shark?

2006-12-22 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2006 December 21 Thursday 10:35:47 AM +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Or is it about KDE4? KDE is the most advanced desktop I've used (that doesn't include vista's 'new' desktop). The desktop that ships with OSX may come close to KDE for features but it is styled to the point of annoyance both

Re: [gentoo-user] working with overlays

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:09:55 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote: Overlays are there specifically for people who need something different from the standard portage tree. They are hardly difficult to use, Not difficult, but it is clumsy: mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/category/package ##

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: using package.provided

2006-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:05:40 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that said, what then would be the best way to let gentoo know I have installed a very recent emacs and any dependancies gentoo may need are available at /usr/local/share/emacs. I've been doing it by putting this in

[gentoo-user] Kernel Config Manager

2006-12-22 Thread Trenton Adams
Hi guys, Does anyone know of a kernel config manager that manages the kernel configuration settings that I want? For instance, I want this network driver, and that driver, and the other driver. Want this to be managed outside the standard menu config because it will make it easier to switch to

[gentoo-user] desperation question: disklabel, unable to write to disk, etc.

2006-12-22 Thread Alan E. Davis
I apologize that this question is somewhat off topic, perhaps. I have found this to be a very helpful list, and in desperation I thought to turn here. After installing the Sabayon mini 3.2 x86 install on my laptop, the boot failed. Grub gave an error (Error number 15, If I recall correctly)

Re: [gentoo-user] What gives

2006-12-22 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats going on...? No has slipped something deadly into portage or otherwise caused upgrade world calamity. After about 1 mnth, I just did -uD world and had no problems during or after the update. And revdep-rebuild also came up clean.

Re: [gentoo-user] Has Linux jumped the Shark?

2006-12-22 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 21:32, Jeff Rollin wrote: Hi all A discussion on the staff blogs over at OSNews about the Linux desktop got me thinking. Thom and Eugenia seem to think that the linux desktop peaked in 2001-2004, but I don't remember the hype around Ubuntu starting till well

[gentoo-user] Error emerging Linphone; warnings being treated as errors

2006-12-22 Thread Nick White
Hi there, I installed Gentoo ala the most excellent Gentoo Handbook, and I extend a million thank yous. I'm having a lot of fun with it, and the whole venture is turning out to be very satisfying. I do have a little problem emerging linphone, however. It decides that it's appropriate to set

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Config Manager

2006-12-22 Thread Dale
Trenton Adams wrote: Hi guys, Does anyone know of a kernel config manager that manages the kernel configuration settings that I want? For instance, I want this network driver, and that driver, and the other driver. Want this to be managed outside the standard menu config because it will

Re: [gentoo-user] What gives

2006-12-22 Thread Dale
Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats going on...? No has slipped something deadly into portage or otherwise caused upgrade world calamity. After about 1 mnth, I just did -uD world and had no problems during or after the update. And revdep-rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Has Linux jumped the Shark?

2006-12-22 Thread Dale
Jerry McBride wrote: PURE Microsoft FUD... They are pulling out all the stops now, trying to block the advancement of Linux in any areas they can. The fact is, they are loosing big time, big money. Do a simple google safari for ie 7 and windows vista and read the posts from ordinary

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel Config Manager

2006-12-22 Thread Harm Geerts
On Saturday 23 December 2006 02:07, Trenton Adams wrote: Hi guys, Does anyone know of a kernel config manager that manages the kernel configuration settings that I want? For instance, I want this network driver, and that driver, and the other driver. Want this to be managed outside the

[gentoo-user] I'm not receiving this list anymore but I can send to it (according to gmane). Am I suspended?

2006-12-22 Thread Daevid Vincent
I had a power outage here in Seattle, WA since last Thursday. Server is finally online. I suspect the mail server suspended or unsubscribed me due to bounces because I've not received any for a few days, when normally there are plenty per day. However, how can I turn it back on? I tried to send