Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2007 23:46, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
 On 1/19/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Buy a couple spare RAM modules. Surely I agree with your will to build a
  minimalistic system, this will help anyway and it's a nice experience,
  but RAM is quite cheap and is the magic elisir that allows outdated
  machines to be still usable -the CPU is rarely a problem, unless you
  often do something quite computationally intensive.

 I have 384 megs of RAM and no imediate possibility of buying more. I
 realise it is arguably sufficient for many lightweight applications, but,
 as I mentioned, it is becoming increasingly frustrating, even with the real
 power of Gentoo and Fluxbox (the two have changed my life -- literally).

This is odd.My main workstation also has 384MB of ram. I run a full KDE 
session and do not experience any slow down. Right now, I have open: 9 
konqueror windows (not tabs), kmail, kmahjongg, konsole with 3 sessions, 
noatun, kcalc. My background is a 1024x768 photo which also takes some 
memory. Switching between virtual desktops is instantaneous, all apps are 
very responsive.

One good thing (among others) of using a real desktop environment is that all 
apps share the vast majority of libraries which are loaded into memory just 
once. When you mix environments or use an eclectic  collection of unrelated 
apps, they all draw in different libraries and memory usage goes up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote:

 This is odd.My main workstation also has 384MB of ram. I run a full KDE 
 session and do not experience any slow down. Right now, I have open: 9 
 konqueror windows (not tabs), kmail, kmahjongg, konsole with 3 sessions, 
 noatun, kcalc. My background is a 1024x768 photo which also takes some 
 memory. Switching between virtual desktops is instantaneous, all apps are 
 very responsive.

 One good thing (among others) of using a real desktop environment is that all 
 apps share the vast majority of libraries which are loaded into memory just 
 once. When you mix environments or use an eclectic  collection of unrelated 
 apps, they all draw in different libraries and memory usage goes up.

 Uwe

   

I tend to agree with this.  I use KDE myself.  I have 1Gb of ram but as
I type only about 280 MBs of it is in use.  The rest is disk cache.  I
have a full blown KDE and I have Seamonkey, Konsole with several tabs
open, Kppp, Konqueror, Kpatience, Kopete and Gkrellm open.  I also have
a lot of server stuff running too.  Ntp, cups, folding which uses a lot
on this unit, nut, rsync, http-replicator, distcc and no telling what
else I forgot about.  With a fresh login. I use less than 100MBs and
that is with all that servers stuff and folding running still.  Well,
folding varies.  Sometimes it uses a lot. sometimes not.

Maybe you need to use top to see what is using all that memory.  I have
ran KDE with 256MBs of ram and had no problems with that either.  128MBs
may be a problem though.  That's getting into using swap a bit.

Post back what you find though.  I'm curious now.  Maybe post what top
says.  This is mine showing only what uses more than 1%:

  8614 root  34  19  117m  90m 1384 S  0.0  9.0   0:01.51
 FahCore_a0.exe
  8616 root  34  19  117m  90m 1384 S  0.0  9.0   0:00.03
 FahCore_a0.exe
  8617 root  39  19  117m  90m 1384 R 24.6  9.0   5132:32
 FahCore_a0.exe
  8618 root  34  19  117m  90m 1384 S  0.0  9.0   0:00.00
 FahCore_a0.exe
  5373 dale  15   0  201m  78m  23m S  0.0  7.7   2:55.74 seamonkey-bin
 20372 root  15   0 82616  48m 5380 S  1.3  4.8   5:00.31 X
 16683 distcc35  15 47360  38m 5620 R 29.3  3.8   0:00.88 cc1plus
 22159 dale  15   0 61004  29m  18m S  0.0  3.0   0:44.93 kopete
 22578 root  15   0 36628  24m  19m S  0.0  2.4   0:02.19 konqueror
 22119 dale  15   0 32028  18m  11m S  0.0  1.9   1:32.15 kdesktop
 22143 dale  15   0 25704  15m  12m S  0.0  1.6   0:02.99 kpat
 22126 dale  15   0 28460  14m  11m S  0.0  1.4   0:10.78 kicker
 22144 dale  15   0 24012  14m  11m S  0.0  1.4   0:00.98 kppp
 22150 dale  15   0 27848  13m  10m S  0.0  1.3   0:14.60 konsole
 22149 dale  15   0 27396  13m  10m S  0.0  1.3   0:00.48 kgpg
 22160 dale  20   0 23260  12m  11m S  0.0  1.3   0:02.85 kdesu
 22102 dale  15   0 27776  12m  10m S  0.0  1.3   0:02.58 kded
  6334 haldaemo  15   0 14048  12m 1632 S  0.0  1.2  31:51.26 hald
 22117 dale  15   0 31744  12m 9528 S  0.0  1.2   0:03.84 knotify
 22115 dale  24   0 25460  11m 9316 S  0.0  1.1   0:04.57 kwin
 22169 dale  15   0 24448  10m 9016 S  0.0  1.1   0:00.33 klipper
  6882 root  15   0 23724  10m 9100 S  0.0  1.1   0:00.14 kio_uiserver

Maybe one of the gurus will see something strange.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Odd artifacts on screen

2007-01-20 Thread Mick
On Friday 19 January 2007 14:30, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Hi,

 Recently I've noticed that I tend to get strange smudging effects on
 text displayed in X. I've attached a small (5k) .png that shows the
 effect (it's the smudge on the word have).

 I've been trying to narrow down some common factors to find what's
 behind it all. Here's my conclusions:

 It's not kde, as I get it in gnome as well
 It's not gnome for the same reason.
 It's not a kde lib as I get it in firefox too.
 It only affects text in the client window, the wm decorations are always
 OK, as is the menus, tab labels, graphics, etc, etc. It's also
 noticeable in konsole.

 I don't recall seeing it when I used fglrx, so I presume it started when
 I reverted back to the radeon driver. The logs show no errors but a few
 warnings that might be related (details below). Refreshing the display
 tends to make these effects go away, as does moving the pointer out of
 and back into the window client area.

I am using the Radeon driver with a Radeon Mobility M6 LY card, and similar 
artifacts sometimes appear on OpenOffice and when viewing large pdf documents.  
AIGLX will give a list of warnings and then will load:

(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x30
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x31
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x32
(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/radeon_dri.so
(II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0

I've just learned to live with it (since I haven't found a solution yet).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Vlad Dogaru

On 1/20/07, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 19 January 2007 23:46, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
 On 1/19/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Buy a couple spare RAM modules. Surely I agree with your will to build a
  minimalistic system, this will help anyway and it's a nice experience,
  but RAM is quite cheap and is the magic elisir that allows outdated
  machines to be still usable -the CPU is rarely a problem, unless you
  often do something quite computationally intensive.

 I have 384 megs of RAM and no imediate possibility of buying more. I
 realise it is arguably sufficient for many lightweight applications, but,
 as I mentioned, it is becoming increasingly frustrating, even with the real
 power of Gentoo and Fluxbox (the two have changed my life -- literally).

This is odd.My main workstation also has 384MB of ram. I run a full KDE
session and do not experience any slow down. Right now, I have open: 9
konqueror windows (not tabs), kmail, kmahjongg, konsole with 3 sessions,
noatun, kcalc. My background is a 1024x768 photo which also takes some
memory. Switching between virtual desktops is instantaneous, all apps are
very responsive.


My current Fluxbox session uses 26% of 384 MiB of RAM, with 6 firefox
tabs, Gaim, Eterm, Conky, mpd and other mostly insignificant
processes. But I still experience a serious drop in responsiveness
when opening, say, 3 Slashdot tabs at once, or when starting
linuxdcpp.

One good thing (among others) of using a real desktop environment is that all
apps share the vast majority of libraries which are loaded into memory just
once. When you mix environments or use an eclectic  collection of unrelated
apps, they all draw in different libraries and memory usage goes up.


I've tried to keep most things down to GTK and X. For instance, I
haven't even installed qt.
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[gentoo-user] AIGLX and Compiz: No GLXFBConfig for default depth

2007-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi all,

on the recent topic of aiglx, etc., I decided to try it out.  I followed
these howto's:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Compiz

but when I get to starting compiz, I get this error:

$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib compiz --replace gconf
compiz: No GLXFBConfig for default depth, this isn't going to work.
compiz: Failed to manage screen: 0
compiz: No manageable screens found on display :0.0

the only thing on google I found was a suggestion to re-install the
nvidia drives, but I'm using the x11 drm drivers...

any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] X configuration problem

2007-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 09:33 +0530, arnuld wrote:
 i ave installed X using emerge X and after hours of
 download-compile-install cycle startx tells me that drivers named
 mouse  kbd are not found. here is what i have done
[snip]

did you forget to add these to /etc/make.conf?

INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse synaptics
VIDEO_CARDS=ati radeon vesa fbdev fglrx

you may use a different set of drivers of course.  See google on these
for more info :)

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[gentoo-user] Re: X configuration problem

2007-01-20 Thread arnuld

(EE) AGLRX: Screen0  is not DRI capable

Try to # the DRI under modules and # at the end there might be a section for  
DRI


# the DRI  in xorg.conf.. OK?


(EE) driver mouse was not found

it should be /dev/input/mice


it *is*  /dev/input/mice,  i am talking of drivers not of /dev.
you did not get my point. here is my xorg.conf;


Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
OptionProtocol auto
OptionDevice /dev/input/mice
OptionZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7



tell me if something is wrong here.


(EE) driver kbd was not found



should be keyboard


what doe sthat mean in context of xorg.conf.


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[gentoo-user] Re: X configuration problem

2007-01-20 Thread arnuld

This is how mine is set up.



Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
OptionProtocol auto
OptionDevice /dev/input/mouse0
OptionZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7



Maybe there is something different on yours but it works here.  May give
you something to go by.



Dale


Dale, mine is same, except of /dev/input/mouse0. i have /dev/input/mice

BUT it does not work :-(


:-)  :-)  :-)


:-)  anyway


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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-20 Thread Jan Stępień
Richard Fish napisał(a):
 On 1/19/07, Jan Stępień [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please verify my plan. I should recompile my kernel with device drivers
 - character devices - radeon built in (or as a module) and in
 xorg.conf set driver to radeon. Am I right?
 
 Yeah, I think that will work.  Good luck!
 
 -Richard
 

New problems came up.

# modprobe radeon
WARNING: Error inserting drm
(/lib/modules/2.6.18-gentoo-r4/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko): Cannot
allocate memory
FATAL: Error inserting radeon
(/lib/modules/2.6.18-gentoo-r4/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko):
Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

# dmesg | grep radeon
radeonfb: Found Intel x86 BIOS ROM Image
radeonfb: Retrieved PLL infos from BIOS
radeonfb: Reference=27.00 MHz (RefDiv=12) Memory=500.00 Mhz,
System=297.00 MHz
radeonfb: PLL min 2 max 4
radeonfb: Monitor 1 type CRT found
radeonfb: EDID probed
radeonfb: Monitor 2 type no found
radeonfb (:01:00.0): ATI Radeon AR
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_open
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_fasync
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_poll
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_get_resource_len
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_core_get_reg_ofs
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_irq_uninstall
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ioctl
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_exit
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_debug
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_core_get_map_ofs
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_init
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_addmap
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ioremapfree
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ioremap
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_get_resource_start
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_vbl_send_signals
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ati_pcigart_init
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_mmap
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_order
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ati_pcigart_cleanup
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_release
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_open
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_fasync
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_poll
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_get_resource_len
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_core_get_reg_ofs
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_irq_uninstall
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ioctl
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_exit
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_debug
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_core_get_map_ofs
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_init
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_addmap
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ioremapfree
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ioremap
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_get_resource_start
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_vbl_send_signals
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ati_pcigart_init
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_mmap
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_order
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ati_pcigart_cleanup
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers
radeon: Unknown symbol drm_release

Any ideas?

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to get rid of errors related to glib

2007-01-20 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Bo Ørsted Andresen schrieb:

 Your system is in an illegal state as you have two versions of glib in the 
 same slot.

Hmm, I don't know how this could happen. Can't remember doing anything
specific related to glib.

 Any hints on this?
 
 Make sure that you have the latest portage (either latest stable or latest 
 ~arch) i.e. run `emerge -u portage`. If that doesn't fix it I think you 
 should file a bug against portage at bugs.gentoo.org. In the future as well 
 as on bugs.gentoo.org please include `emerge --info` with portage tracebacks.

Emerged portage, didn't help. Tried to mask glib-2.12, and then reemerge
 2.10 to get one and only one glib-ebuild in one slot, to get able to
unmerge it cleanly, didn't help either.

So I assume I have to file a bug.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X configuration problem

2007-01-20 Thread Norberto Bensa
arnuld wrote:
  (EE) driver kbd was not found
 
  should be keyboard

 what doe sthat mean in context of xorg.conf.

The driver is called keyboard not kbd


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[gentoo-user] slightly ot

2007-01-20 Thread Kellystewart00
Good morning!
  I am looking to back up my dvd collection and have dvdrip but i have a 
lot of dvd's which are encrypted which poses a problem is there any way to get 
around this. (i know all this could be slightly less than 100% legal, but 
considering i own all copies i figure a backup isn't an issue).
   any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance

kel
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X configuration problem

2007-01-20 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 20 January 2007 15:10, Norberto Bensa wrote:

 arnuld wrote:
   (EE) driver kbd was not found
  
   should be keyboard
 
  what doe sthat mean in context of xorg.conf.

 The driver is called keyboard not kbd

My understanding is (man keyboard) that kbd is the new driver 
while keyboard is the old...so nowadays kbd should be used. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] slightly ot

2007-01-20 Thread Thomas Lingefelt
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 Good morning!
   I am looking to back up my dvd collection and have dvdrip but i have a 
 lot of dvd's which are encrypted which poses a problem is there any way to 
 get around this. (i know all this could be slightly less than 100% legal, but 
 considering i own all copies i figure a backup isn't an issue).
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
 thanks in advance
 
 kel
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media-libs/libdvdcss is a library you might want to look at.  portage's
description says A portable abstraction library for DVD decryption.
Ive had no experience with it but this should be a step in the right
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: logrotate won't rotate portage logs

2007-01-20 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:34:24 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I do not understand why the log files within /var/log/portage/ will
  not rotate on my PC, while they rotate fine on my laptop.  The
  /etc/logrotate.conf is the same on both boxen:
 [...]
 Anyone? Anything I could look into?

Hm, logrotate -d? How's logrotate being called? E.g. if it's cron,
what cron daemon are you using? E.g. fcron and dcron don't support a
system wide crontab in /etc/crontab, so things in /etc/cron.* won't
ever be called.

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Re: [gentoo-user] slightly ot

2007-01-20 Thread Daniel Iliev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good morning!
   I am looking to back up my dvd collection and have dvdrip but i have a 
 lot of dvd's which are encrypted which poses a problem is there any way to 
 get around this. (i know all this could be slightly less than 100% legal, but 
 considering i own all copies i figure a backup isn't an issue).
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 thanks in advance

 kel
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emerge eix
update-eix
eix -C -c -n media-video | grep -i dvd

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: logrotate won't rotate portage logs

2007-01-20 Thread Mick

On 20/01/07, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:34:24 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I do not understand why the log files within /var/log/portage/ will
  not rotate on my PC, while they rotate fine on my laptop.  The
  /etc/logrotate.conf is the same on both boxen:
 [...]
 Anyone? Anything I could look into?

Hm, logrotate -d? How's logrotate being called? E.g. if it's cron,
what cron daemon are you using? E.g. fcron and dcron don't support a
system wide crontab in /etc/crontab, so things in /etc/cron.* won't
ever be called.


Thanks HW, this is what logrotate -d shows re. portage logs:

# logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.conf
reading config file /etc/logrotate.conf
including /etc/logrotate.d
[snip...]

reading config info for /var/log/portage/*.log
olddir is now /var/log/portage/old
[snip...]

rotating pattern: /var/log/portage/*.log
weekly (1 rotations)
olddir is /var/log/portage/old, empty log files are rotated, old logs
are removed
considering log /var/log/portage/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log
 log does not need rotating
considering log /var/log/portage/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log
 log does not need rotating
considering log /var/log/portage/4053-xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6.log
 log does not need rotating
[snip...]


However, the three files shown above as an example are more than 1 week old:

# ls -la /var/log/portage/
total 231058
drwxrws--- 3 portage portage76632 Jan 20 09:48 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 rootroot1208 Jan 20 09:07 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 rootportage 6301 Dec 25  2005
4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 rootportage  395 Dec 25  2005
4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 rootportage  9137458 Dec 25  2005 4053-xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6.log

I am not sure if it is cron related at all because it won't rotate
these files, even when I try it manually.  Anyway, both machines are
using vixie-cron-4.1-r9 which I have not modified whatsoever from its
default:

# cat /etc/cron.daily/logrotate.cron
#! /bin/sh

/usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf


I thought of forcing it through and therefore I have now used the -f
option.  It seems to have moved all logs into the old dir.

rotating pattern: /var/log/portage/*.log
forced from command line (1 rotations)
olddir is /var/log/portage/old, empty log files are rotated, old logs
are removed
considering log /var/log/portage/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log
 log needs rotating
considering log /var/log/portage/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log
 log needs rotating
considering log /var/log/portage/4053-xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6.log
 log needs rotating

Because it was forced it shows above that log needs rotating.

Then it rotated them happily (I think):

rotating log /var/log/portage/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log,
log-rotateCount is 1
renaming /var/log/portage/old/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.1 to
/var/log/portage/old/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.2 (rotatecount 1,
logstart 1, i 1),
old log /var/log/portage/old/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.1 does not exist
renaming /var/log/portage/old/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.0 to
/var/log/portage/old/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.1 (rotatecount 1,
logstart 1, i 0),
old log /var/log/portage/old/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.0 does not exist
log /var/log/portage/old/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.2 doesn't
exist -- won't try to dispose of it
renaming /var/log/portage/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log to
/var/log/portage/old/4052-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.1
running postrotate script
rotating log /var/log/portage/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log,
log-rotateCount is 1
renaming /var/log/portage/old/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.1 to
/var/log/portage/old/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.2 (rotatecount 1,
logstart 1, i 1),
old log /var/log/portage/old/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.1 does not exist
renaming /var/log/portage/old/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.0 to
/var/log/portage/old/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.1 (rotatecount 1,
logstart 1, i 0),
old log /var/log/portage/old/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.0 does not exist
log /var/log/portage/old/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.2 doesn't
exist -- won't try to dispose of it
renaming /var/log/portage/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log to
/var/log/portage/old/4053-ati-drivers-8.14.13-r3.log.1
running postrotate script
rotating log /var/log/portage/4053-xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6.log, log-rotateCount is 1
renaming /var/log/portage/old/4053-xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6.log.1 to
/var/log/portage/old/4053-xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6.log.2 (rotatecount 1,
logstart 1, i 1),
old log /var/log/portage/old/4053-xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6.log.1 does not exist
renaming /var/log/portage/old/4053-xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6.log.0 to
/var/log/portage/old/4053-xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6.log.1 (rotatecount 1,
logstart 1, i 0),
old log 

Re: [gentoo-user] X configuration problem

2007-01-20 Thread Lewis Handy

On 20/01/07, arnuld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


i ave installed X using emerge X and after hours of
download-compile-install cycle startx tells me that drivers named
mouse  kbd are not found. here is what i have done

1.) used genkernel all to compile my kernel.

2.) added these 2 to /etc/make.conf
   INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse
   VIDEO_CARDS=flrx vesa via vga v4l

3.) emerge xorg-x11

4.) Xorg -configure.

5.) xorg.conf edited:

HorizSync  VertRefresh added
/dev/mouse changed to /dev/input/mouse

i got these errrors (not exact errors but something like them):

(EE) AGLRX: Screen0  is not DRI capable
(EE) driver mouse was not found
(EE) driver kbd was not found

i checked xorg.conf  saw that Keyboard  Mouse sections use kbd 
mouse drivers respectively.

how to resolve this issue?




Try emerging x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and
x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard


Regards,
Lewis


Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Avaricen

Luke Ravitch wrote:

On 2007-01-19 09:45, Vlad Dogaru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I am especially looking for a browser to substitute Firefox (it's great, but
quite a memory hog). I like links, what with its graphical capabilities, but
it lacks tabs and that's a major downside in my vision. I've tried Conkeror
for Firefox, but it's too Emacs-centric (vim person here) and also disables
tabs (or maybe it's me -- I couldn't get them to work).



I'd never heard of Conkeror, so I started playing with it.  I really
like it (but *I* am an Emacs guy).  If you do M-x use-vi-keys (where
M-x is probably Alt-x on your machine) then it feels more vi-like
(j,k scroll up/down; h,l go back/forward; colon for commands instead
of M-x).

It doesn't seem to do tabs, but it will open pages in different
(Emacs-like) buffers.  Use C-x f (with emacs keys) to open a URL in
a new buffer.  Then C-x b to switch between buffers.  (Not sure what
the equivilent vi-style keystrokes are, but they might be there)

Of course, Conkeror is still Firefox underneath, so that won't help
with it being a memory hog.

Anyway, thanks for showing me something new and cool!

  

You mean Konqueror.
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[gentoo-user] php-5.1.6-r6 troubles

2007-01-20 Thread James
Hello,

Trying to run a routine upgrade I get this error:

hecking for Informix support... no
checking for InterBase support... yes
checking for isc_detach_database in -lfbclient... no
checking for isc_detach_database in -lgds... no
checking for isc_detach_database in -lib_util... no
configure: error: libgds, libib_util or libfbclient not found! Check config.log
for more information.

!!! ERROR: dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r6 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1546:   Called dyn_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 937:   Called src_compile
  php-5.1.6-r6.ebuild, line 173:   Called src_compile_normal
  php-5.1.6-r6.ebuild, line 323:   Called php5_1-sapi_src_compile
  php5_1-sapi.eclass, line 576:   Called die

!!! configure failed


I looked in this file for clues, but found nothing:
/var/tmp/portage/php-5.1.6-r6/work/php-5.1.6/config.log

But found nothing that looked like a problem (at least to me).

So all I have to go on is this line (repeated from above):

configure: error: libgds, libib_util or libfbclient not found! Check config.log
for more information.

Any words of wisdom on how to fix this?


James

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 20 January 2007 19:32, Avaricen wrote:
  Of course, Conkeror is still Firefox underneath, so that won't help
  with it being a memory hog.

 You mean Konqueror.

Err.. obviously not. Konqueror isn't based on Firefox...

http://conkeror.mozdev.org/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 20 January 2007 12:32, Avaricen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system':
 Luke Ravitch wrote:
  On 2007-01-19 09:45, Vlad Dogaru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am especially looking for a browser to substitute Firefox.
  I've tried Conkeror for Firefox, but it's too Emacs-centric 
  (vim person here) and also disables tabs (or maybe it's me -- I
  couldn't get them to work).
 
  I'd never heard of Conkeror, so I started playing with it.  I really
  like it (but *I* am an Emacs guy).  If you do M-x use-vi-keys (where
  M-x is probably Alt-x on your machine) then it feels more vi-like
 
  It doesn't seem to do tabs, but it will open pages in different
  (Emacs-like) buffers.
 
  Of course, Conkeror is still Firefox underneath, so that won't help
  with it being a memory hog.

 You mean Konqueror.

No, Konqueror doesn't use Firefox or any Gecko technology underneath.  I 
believe the KDE developers are calling their technology (that is also used 
the KDE applications KHTML parts) either webkit or webcore.

Also, as far as I know, Konqueror doesn't have this strange emacs-like 
behavior and definitely has normal tabs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 20 January 2007 19:32, Avaricen wrote:

 You mean Konqueror.

No. See

http://conkeror.mozdev.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: slightly ot

2007-01-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 20 January 2007 18:46, James wrote:
 Daniel Iliev danny at ilievnet.com writes:
  eix -C -c -n media-video | grep -i dvd

 That's a pretty cool search string.
 If I wanted to search the entire tree, why does this not work?

 eix -C -c -n * | grep -i dvd

 eix does not expand wildcards for matches?

It would be helpful if you would take just one look at `man eix` to see what 
the arguments do.

-n isn't necessary since eix will automatically disable colors when it detects 
a pipe (the | sign). -c just makes the output more compact. -C means you're 
specifying a category but * isn't a category..

Furthermore if you type the above command (assuming you're using bash) eix 
doesn't get an * at all because bash expands it before ever executing the 
command. Try typing `echo *` to see what bash expands it to.

But no, even if you escaped or quoted the * properly eix doesn't expand it. 
But if you don't use --exact it always assumes wildcards. Hence `eix -C -c 
video` results in the same output as `eix -C -c media-video`. And `eix -c` 
outputs everything in the tree.

Instead of the silly grep above I'd just search descriptions with -S though...

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Re: [gentoo-user] X configuration problem

2007-01-20 Thread Mick
On Saturday 20 January 2007 17:23, Lewis Handy wrote:
 On 20/01/07, arnuld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i ave installed X using emerge X and after hours of
  download-compile-install cycle startx tells me that drivers named
  mouse  kbd are not found. here is what i have done
 
  1.) used genkernel all to compile my kernel.
 
  2.) added these 2 to /etc/make.conf
 INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse
 VIDEO_CARDS=flrx vesa via vga v4l

Should flrx above be fglrx?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Avaricen

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

On Saturday 20 January 2007 19:32, Avaricen wrote:

  

You mean Konqueror.



No. See

http://conkeror.mozdev.org
  

:O I thought you were referring to the KDE app. ;) My apologies.
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[gentoo-user] Re: X configuration problem

2007-01-20 Thread arnuld

did you forget to add these to /etc/make.conf?



INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse synaptics
VIDEO_CARDS=ati radeon vesa fbdev fglrx


Iain, it seems likee you have not read my 1st post, here is the
relevent part of it:

 INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse
 VIDEO_CARDS=fglrx vesa via vga v4l

BTW, what does synaptics do? and what do ati radeon fbdev do?

if i add them, will they solve my problem? ( i am asking as i have
installed BLAG Linux for now,so that i can communicate with you folks,
i have to reinstall Gentoo to try that)


you may use a different set of drivers of course.  See google on these
for more info :)


i tried google. it confused me even more. what is DRI  OpenGL
replacing X window system? what does mesa has to do with DRI  why
ATI RADEON search opens the links to AMD web-site  then they show me
something like AMD 9600 series for Linux x86_64 ?

?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Avaricen

Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

On Saturday 20 January 2007 19:32, Avaricen wrote:
  

Of course, Conkeror is still Firefox underneath, so that won't help
with it being a memory hog.
  

You mean Konqueror.



Err.. obviously not. Konqueror isn't based on Firefox...

http://conkeror.mozdev.org/

  
Thanks for this, Bo. I didn't even know of the existence of conkeror 
before now.


Best regards
Avaricen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Vlad Dogaru

On 1/20/07, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

One good thing (among others) of using a real desktop environment is that all
apps share the vast majority of libraries which are loaded into memory just
once. When you mix environments or use an eclectic  collection of unrelated
apps, they all draw in different libraries and memory usage goes up.


With this in mind, would running a (few) GTK apps on KDE make a large
difference? For instance, I am quite fond of Gaim, and even if I were
to try KDE, I wouldn't want to give it up (though I heard Kopette is
comparably capable).

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[gentoo-user] info for ipw2200 users

2007-01-20 Thread »Q«
This affects suspend2-sources users (and maybe others) who have been
using the ipw2200 ebuild in portage rather than the in-kernel ipw2200
support.  It confused me pretty badly yesterday, so I thought I'd post
in case it can help someone.

The ipw2200 ebuild is now masked, pending removal from portage (see
current package.mask).  So it's probably time to migrate to using the
kernel's ipw2200 support.  A problem arises because (AIUI) installing 
the ipw2200 ebuild removes what's needed in suspend2-sources
to compile the kernel with its own ipw2200 support.  Or maybe the
removal was done manually;  ISTR having to remove some files after
being prompted by the ebuild.  Anyway, trying to compile the kernel
after configuring for ipw2200 support results in failure.

The fix is to unmerge ipw2200 and ieee80211, then emerge
suspend2-sources again before reconfiguring and recompiling.  

Thanks to Phil for filing a bug (invalid) and to Alon Bar-Lev for
pointing toward the cause of the problem.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162856  

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Re: [gentoo-user] info for ipw2200 users

2007-01-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 20 January 2007 19:58, »Q« wrote:
 This affects suspend2-sources users (and maybe others) who have been
 using the ipw2200 ebuild in portage rather than the in-kernel ipw2200
 support.  It confused me pretty badly yesterday, so I thought I'd post
 in case it can help someone.

 The ipw2200 ebuild is now masked, pending removal from portage (see
 current package.mask).  So it's probably time to migrate to using the
 kernel's ipw2200 support.  A problem arises because (AIUI) installing
 the ipw2200 ebuild removes what's needed in suspend2-sources
 to compile the kernel with its own ipw2200 support.  Or maybe the
 removal was done manually;  ISTR having to remove some files after
 being prompted by the ebuild.  Anyway, trying to compile the kernel
 after configuring for ipw2200 support results in failure.

 The fix is to unmerge ipw2200 and ieee80211, then emerge
 suspend2-sources again before reconfiguring and recompiling.

 Thanks to Phil for filing a bug (invalid) and to Alon Bar-Lev for
 pointing toward the cause of the problem.
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162856

This issue is specific to neither suspend2-sources nor ipw2200. You hit the 
same issue with any other kernel if you emerge ieee80211. From the ieee80211 
ebuild:

eerror Your kernel source contains an incompatible version of the
eerror ieee80211 subsystem, which needs to be removed before
eerror ${P} can be installed. This can be accomplished by running:
eerror
eerror   # /bin/sh ${FILESDIR}/remove-old ${KV_DIR}
if [ ${KV_DIR} != ${KV_OUT_DIR} ]; then
 eerror   # /bin/sh ${FILESDIR}/remove-old ${KV_OUT_DIR}
fi
eerror
eerror Please note that this will make it impossible to use some of the
eerror in-kernel IEEE 802.11 wireless LAN drivers (eg. orinoco).

You ran the script and you were warned. The ieee80211 ebuild is depended upon 
by four external, wireless net drivers: ipw{2100,2200,3945} and rt2x00.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a home router

2007-01-20 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

The only last thing I could suggest is running lsof to see what files
are being accessed when you start the net.eth1 script.


I tried lsof, but is there a possibility to run it constantly or for a
specified time to catch the complete progress of the script, like the
top command  to monitor all files which are used by this process. As
far as i can see lsof list only the current processes and the files
used and then it stops.


a better option would be `emerge --noconfmem package`, which
esentially re-does all your conf files.


I tried this also but i can't figure out which files could be
responsible for this


Additionally i tried this, running the init-script and then i applied
this find command

find / -mount -cmin -1

which lists all the files which status has changed the last minute,
but there are no files which could be the reason for the changing if
the tables.
I don't know if this command does what i want. I think it lists the
files which are altered and which are accessed. Am i right here?

I used this find command for reinstalling shorewall and setting back
the old settings too but without success.

This gets a bit frustrating for me now i always have to reset my
iptables manually after i start my internet connection. Is it possible
that there is no real file causing this trouble?
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Re: [gentoo-user] info for ipw2200 users

2007-01-20 Thread David Corbin
On Saturday 20 January 2007 15:23, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
snip
 This issue is specific to neither suspend2-sources nor ipw2200. You hit the
 same issue with any other kernel if you emerge ieee80211. From the
 ieee80211 ebuild:

 eerror Your kernel source contains an incompatible version of the
 eerror ieee80211 subsystem, which needs to be removed before
 eerror ${P} can be installed. This can be accomplished by running:
 eerror
 eerror   # /bin/sh ${FILESDIR}/remove-old ${KV_DIR}
 if [ ${KV_DIR} != ${KV_OUT_DIR} ]; then
  eerror   # /bin/sh ${FILESDIR}/remove-old ${KV_OUT_DIR}
 fi
 eerror
 eerror Please note that this will make it impossible to use some of
 the eerror in-kernel IEEE 802.11 wireless LAN drivers (eg. orinoco).

 You ran the script and you were warned. The ieee80211 ebuild is depended
 upon by four external, wireless net drivers: ipw{2100,2200,3945} and
 rt2x00.

Having just gotten my ipw2100 to be working (kind of), I want to comment on 
this.  This is just stupid.  There's nothing wrong with having that source in 
the kernel if it's not configured is there?  The solution used here seems 
just wrong to me.

David

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X configuration problem

2007-01-20 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 23:39 +0530, arnuld wrote:
 BTW, what does synaptics do?

Well I can't answer your other questions, but synaptics is the driver
for a touchpad.

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Re: [gentoo-user] turning off irrelevant mplayer errorFIXED?

2007-01-20 Thread Niki Guldbrand
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 18:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 BUT, I'll only start using info on the day someone can explain to me how 
 to use it causing my intestines to leap out of my throat and strangling 
 me in protest (apologies to Douglas Adams...)
 
 alan
 

Have you ever tried pinfo ?

[I] app-text/pinfo
 Available versions:  0.6.9
 Installed versions:  0.6.9(01:58:33 PM 12/26/2006)(nls readline)
 Homepage:http://pinfo.alioth.debian.org/
 Description: Hypertext info and man viewer based on
(n)curses


Regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] slightly ot

2007-01-20 Thread b.n.

Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:

On Saturday 20 January 2007 15:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good morning!
  I am looking to back up my dvd collection and have dvdrip but i have
a lot of dvd's which are encrypted which poses a problem is there any way
to get around this. (i know all this could be slightly less than 100%
legal, but considering i own all copies i figure a backup isn't an issue).
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance


AFAIR dvdrip should work with encrypted ones too.


I can confirm it does. Just make sure to have libdvdcss and the 
corresponding use flags.


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Re: [gentoo-user] info for ipw2200 users

2007-01-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 20 January 2007 23:06, David Corbin wrote:
  You ran the script and you were warned. The ieee80211 ebuild is depended
  upon by four external, wireless net drivers: ipw{2100,2200,3945} and
  rt2x00.

 Having just gotten my ipw2100 to be working (kind of), I want to comment on
 this.  This is just stupid.  There's nothing wrong with having that source
 in the kernel if it's not configured is there?  The solution used here
 seems just wrong to me.

Oh, I'm sure the devs would be interested if you have a better solution.. I 
haven't bothered to even attempt to find out whether or why this is 
necessary. Fortunately we as ipw2100 users don't have to care any longer 
because the external ipw2x00 kernel modules are no longer required. Just use 
the in-kernel modules and you won't have to deal with this ever again... 
That's what this thread is all about.

Also just a side note to the OP. Just because ipw2200 has been masked doesn't 
mean you have to rebuild a working kernel that allready has the external 
modules working. You could just unmerge ipw2200 and ieee80211. /lib/modules 
are under forced CONFIG_PROTECT so the modules won't be removed from there 
during the unmerge. Next time you upgrade your kernel anyway you just have to 
make sure they get enabled as modules in the kernel.

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[gentoo-user] Re: info for ipw2200 users

2007-01-20 Thread »Q«
In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also just a side note to the OP. Just because ipw2200 has been masked
 doesn't mean you have to rebuild a working kernel that allready has
 the external modules working. You could just unmerge ipw2200 and
 ieee80211. /lib/modules are under forced CONFIG_PROTECT so the
 modules won't be removed from there during the unmerge. Next time you
 upgrade your kernel anyway you just have to make sure they get
 enabled as modules in the kernel.

Thanks, and thanks for clearing up the actual cause of the problem.
My recollection of having been warned before running the cleaning
script was pretty hazy.

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Re: [gentoo-user] php-5.1.6-r6 troubles

2007-01-20 Thread Rumen Yotov

Hi,
James wrote:

Hello,

Trying to run a routine upgrade I get this error:

hecking for Informix support... no
checking for InterBase support... yes
checking for isc_detach_database in -lfbclient... no
checking for isc_detach_database in -lgds... no
checking for isc_detach_database in -lib_util... no
configure: error: libgds, libib_util or libfbclient not found! Check config.log

See the line above.
Check your USE-flags (some of these USEs must be enabled).
libgds - about 'firebird' support;
libib_util - 'interbase' support;
libfbclient - again is somehow linked with 'firebird'.
All this is just result from a quick Google-search using lib names.

for more information.

!!! ERROR: dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r6 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1546:   Called dyn_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 937:   Called src_compile
  php-5.1.6-r6.ebuild, line 173:   Called src_compile_normal
  php-5.1.6-r6.ebuild, line 323:   Called php5_1-sapi_src_compile
  php5_1-sapi.eclass, line 576:   Called die

!!! configure failed


I looked in this file for clues, but found nothing:
/var/tmp/portage/php-5.1.6-r6/work/php-5.1.6/config.log

But found nothing that looked like a problem (at least to me).

So all I have to go on is this line (repeated from above):

configure: error: libgds, libib_util or libfbclient not found! Check config.log
for more information.

Any words of wisdom on how to fix this?


James


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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Mick
On Saturday 20 January 2007 18:23, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
 On 1/20/07, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One good thing (among others) of using a real desktop environment is that
  all apps share the vast majority of libraries which are loaded into
  memory just once. When you mix environments or use an eclectic 
  collection of unrelated apps, they all draw in different libraries and
  memory usage goes up.

 With this in mind, would running a (few) GTK apps on KDE make a large
 difference? For instance, I am quite fond of Gaim, and even if I were
 to try KDE, I wouldn't want to give it up (though I heard Kopette is
 comparably capable).

I'm using Gaim because it is lighter, but Kopete can do more (e.g. voicecalls 
with Gmail).  Once I have loaded Kmail or any other KDE base application then 
the added load of Kopete is not that much.  In any case, running Gaim ontop 
of KDE is more or less imperceptible.

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[gentoo-user] x11 display as v4l device

2007-01-20 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Hi!

Does anybody know if there is some driver+tools that could present an x11 
display as a v4l device?

SOmething like what x11vnc does, but instead of being able to see the display 
x11vnc attached to via
vnc, been able to see it as a local v4l device.

That is:

1) run x11v4l
2) now all v4l aware applications can see that same screen.

Any ideas? Pointers? Insults? :)

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[gentoo-user] Do Debian's 2.6.18 problems exist in gentoo?

2007-01-20 Thread Hendrik Boom
I'm in the process of installing gentoo now, in the hope of getting it to
work more reliably (and more up-to-date) than Debian.  Debian's 2.6.18-3
kernel includes backported msync-optimising patches from 2.19 that don't
work properly and have the effect of sometimes causing serious file-system
damage. (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401006 if
you're curious about gory details).

What I was wondering was whether a similar misfortune has befallen
gentoo's 2.6.18 kernel, or whether gentoo's kernel developers have just
left the 2.6.19 patches in 2.6.19.

Maybe I'm being silly asking about this, but I have become paranoid about
severe file system damage.

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[gentoo-user] nvidia card swap

2007-01-20 Thread James
hello,

I have a system using  this card:
 NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]

and I want to use this card:
NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

to hopefully get more perfomance on  3D applications.

Can I just swap the hardware or do I have to edit
(xorg.conf) and recompile some software, such as
xorg-server ?


ideas?

James



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Re: [gentoo-user]

2007-01-20 Thread Fredrik Tolf
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 15:21 -0600, Dan Farrell wrote:
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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia card swap

2007-01-20 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:49:33 + (UTC)
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello,
 
 I have a system using  this card:
  NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]
 
 and I want to use this card:
 NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
 
 to hopefully get more perfomance on  3D applications.
 
 Can I just swap the hardware or do I have to edit
 (xorg.conf) and recompile some software, such as
 xorg-server ?
 
 
 ideas?
 
 James
 
 
 
Hi,
Currently don't have a NVidia card, but IIRC the former
uses: x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers, the latter:
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers.
But please check again, can't confirm.No other changed needed.
HTH. Rumen
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[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia card swap

2007-01-20 Thread James
Rumen Yotov rumen at qrypto.org writes:



   NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]

  NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

 Currently don't have a NVidia card, but IIRC the former
 uses: x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers, the latter:
 x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers.
 But please check again, can't confirm.No other changed needed

Hello
Rumen,

Thank 
Rumen,


James




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[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia card swap

2007-01-20 Thread »Q«
In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:49:33 + (UTC)
 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hello,
  
  I have a system using  this card:
   NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]
  
  and I want to use this card:
  NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
  
 Hi,
 Currently don't have a NVidia card, but IIRC the former
 uses: x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers, the latter:
 x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers.
 But please check again, can't confirm.No other changed needed.

It looks like the GF2 MX 400 is supported by the current
nvidia-drivers, so the legacy ones were never needed here.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml#doc_chap2_sect4


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Re: [gentoo-user] Do Debian's 2.6.18 problems exist in gentoo?

2007-01-20 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:27:28 -0500
Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm in the process of installing gentoo now, in the hope of getting it to
 work more reliably (and more up-to-date) than Debian.  Debian's 2.6.18-3
 kernel includes backported msync-optimising patches from 2.19 that don't
 work properly and have the effect of sometimes causing serious file-system
 damage. (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401006 if
 you're curious about gory details).
 
 What I was wondering was whether a similar misfortune has befallen
 gentoo's 2.6.18 kernel, or whether gentoo's kernel developers have just
 left the 2.6.19 patches in 2.6.19.
 
 Maybe I'm being silly asking about this, but I have become paranoid about
 severe file system damage.
 
 -- hendrik

there are a number of kernels you can install in gentoo - see inside the 
directory /usr/portage/sys-kernel. You can also see what patches have been 
applied by looking at the ebuilds.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia card swap

2007-01-20 Thread Dale
»Q« wrote:
 In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:49:33 + (UTC)
 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 hello,

 I have a system using  this card:
  NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]

 and I want to use this card:
 NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
   
  
 Hi,
 Currently don't have a NVidia card, but IIRC the former
 uses: x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers, the latter:
 x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers.
 But please check again, can't confirm.No other changed needed.
 

 It looks like the GF2 MX 400 is supported by the current
 nvidia-drivers, so the legacy ones were never needed here.

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml#doc_chap2_sect4


   

After he installs the new card, he may have to reemerge the drivers
though and reload the modules too.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] slightly ot

2007-01-20 Thread Kellystewart00
Thanks for the help there got everything running perfectly the libdvdcss sorted 
out my issues with encrypted dvds.
Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:11:41 
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] slightly ot


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 Good morning!
   I am looking to back up my dvd collection and have dvdrip but i have a 
 lot of dvd's which are encrypted which poses a problem is there any way to 
 get around this. (i know all this could be slightly less than 100% legal, but 
 considering i own all copies i figure a backup isn't an issue).
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
 thanks in advance
 
 kel
 Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  
 
media-libs/libdvdcss is a library you might want to look at.  portage's
description says A portable abstraction library for DVD decryption.
Ive had no experience with it but this should be a step in the right
direction.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia card swap

2007-01-20 Thread Norberto Bensa
Dale wrote:
  I have a system using  this card:
   NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]
 
  and I want to use this card:
  NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

 After he installs the new card, he may have to reemerge the drivers
 though and reload the modules too.


Nope. I've swaped my MX200 for a FX5500. Turn the box on and enjoy. :)


Regards,

Norberto


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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system

2007-01-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 January 2007 20:23, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
 On 1/20/07, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One good thing (among others) of using a real desktop environment is that
  all apps share the vast majority of libraries which are loaded into
  memory just once. When you mix environments or use an eclectic 
  collection of unrelated apps, they all draw in different libraries and
  memory usage goes up.

 With this in mind, would running a (few) GTK apps on KDE make a large
 difference? For instance, I am quite fond of Gaim, and even if I were
 to try KDE, I wouldn't want to give it up (though I heard Kopette is
 comparably capable).

If one is short of ram, it makes a difference, though GTK isn't much of a 
problem. If you run one single GNOME app under KDE, it pulls in a lot of 
GNOME libraries - and vice versa. 

Ue

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia card swap

2007-01-20 Thread Dale
Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Dale wrote:
   
 I have a system using  this card:
  NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]

 and I want to use this card:
 NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
   
 After he installs the new card, he may have to reemerge the drivers
 though and reload the modules too.
 


 Nope. I've swaped my MX200 for a FX5500. Turn the box on and enjoy. :)


 Regards,

 Norberto
   

Hmmm.  Now I know.  That's interesting though.  I guess it doesn't look
to see what kind of card you have until it loads up then.  Learn
something every day.

Dale

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