Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-drivers stopped working

2007-08-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 6. August 2007, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 On Sunday 05 August 2007, a tiny voice compelled Volker Armin Hemmann to

 write:

   NO! The newer drivers build but warn of MTRR support lacking on my
   card.
 
  and you have checked that you have mtrr support in the kernel?

 first thing


;) 


   Funny I thought that it was there. It's a gforce4 ti 4200.
   I had to revert to nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639. I guess the drivers got
   updated in a previous update and I missed the warnings. Funny it worked
   for over a week.
 
  emm, you might want to look up about 'legacy drivers' and 'supported
  cards'.

 There you go. For my card I have to stick with the 1.0.96xx series drivers.
 might be time to look at building a new box.

luckily mid range graphic cards are cheap today ...
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Bo Ørsted Andresen escribió:

On Tuesday 17 July 2007 00:46:08 maxim wexler wrote:
  

So, emerge portage results in one package being
installed, portage, 61kb.

emerge -u portage lines up 5 or 6 packages plus
portage, 18Mb.

Went ahead and just did the one package, figuring
later I could do an emerge -u for the rest of it.

But this is what happens:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -pv portage

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.9  USE=-build
-doc -epydoc (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0
kB

What I expected.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -puv portage

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB

So why doesn't it list the upgrade part now?



Because --update stops calculating deps when none of the specified targets 
need updating. Only --deep checks the consistency of all dependencies even 
when none of the targets need updating. You could argue it's a deficiency in 
portage (although well-known)..


  


It may sound a bit off-topic, but there is (at least) one very good 
reason for portage behaving this way, just think of the following scenario:


We have installed an application called APP (yes, very smart name) and 
this application depends on a dynamic library called LIB (yet smarter 
name). At installation APP was in version 1.0 and LIB in version 2.0.


Now think there's a new version available of LIB, let's say version 2.1, 
but the latest version of APP is still 1.0. If portage performed a deep 
update by default LIB would be rebuilt, but no APP, what would cause 
broken dependencies on APP (remember LIB is a dynamic library). However, 
is you don't update LIB unless you update also APP you will prevent this 
problem*.


Just my 0.02 ;-)

Abraham


* Needless to say, the problem will still arise if two applications 
depend on the same dynamic library, which is a common case, and only one 
of them is updated, but still it's an improvement.


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[gentoo-user] Re: portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Remy Blank
Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
 Now think there's a new version available of LIB, let's say version 2.1, 
 but the latest version of APP is still 1.0. If portage performed a deep 
 update by default LIB would be rebuilt, but no APP, what would cause 
 broken dependencies on APP (remember LIB is a dynamic library). However, 
 is you don't update LIB unless you update also APP you will prevent this 
 problem*.

That's what revdep-rebuild is for. Update your LIB, run revdep-rebuild,
and if APP is really broken by the LIB update (it doesn't have to be),
it will be rebuilt.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:45:25 +0200, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:

 Now think there's a new version available of LIB, let's say version
 2.1, but the latest version of APP is still 1.0. If portage performed a
 deep update by default LIB would be rebuilt, but no APP, what would
 cause broken dependencies on APP (remember LIB is a dynamic library).
 However, is you don't update LIB unless you update also APP you will
 prevent this problem*.

SLOTs deal with this problem, allowing you to have LIB-1.0 and LIB-2.0
installed simultaneously.

 * Needless to say, the problem will still arise if two applications 
 depend on the same dynamic library, which is a common case, and only
 one of them is updated, but still it's an improvement.

Unless you use SLOTs.


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Re: [gentoo-user] hald won't start

2007-08-06 Thread Alessandro del Gallo

Hi,

Last 2 lines of your log:
 Unable to initialize inotify:
  Function not implemented

inotify comes from kernel, in my config:

 elwood linux # zcat /proc/config.gz |grep -i notify
 CONFIG_INOTIFY=y
 CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER=y
 CONFIG_DNOTIFY=y

in menuconfig:

 ┌─── File systems

[...]

 [*] Inotify file change notification support

 [*]   Inotify support for userspace

bye bye


Mick ha scritto:

On Saturday 04 August 2007 11:21, Mick wrote:

On Tuesday 17 July 2007 10:52, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:

Mick ha scritto:

On Monday 16 July 2007 10:26, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:

Mick ha scritto:

Hi All,

I noticed on a box of mine that hald won't start:
==
# /etc/init.d/hald restart
 * Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer daemon ...  [ !! ]
==

Confusingly, the logs don't show anything.  How do I troubleshoot
this?

I had the same problem:

hald was sucking 99% cpu, removables devices didn't work
and launching hald from terminal with the option hald --daemon=no
--verbose=yes i discovered it was on a infinite loop echo-ing
something about rules so I got in /etc/udev/rules.d
and found (by probing one by one) 99-libgphoto2.rules that
was HALS's murder.

Thank you Alessandro, what do you mean by probing - how did you probe
them?

moving it to /tmp and restart hald,
becouse the error I got when launching
# hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes
is Unhandled Rule (0)
so deleting the rules (delete de rule, start hald, if it doesn't
works put the rule back , and move another) from etc/udev/rules.d
I debugged the problem, the bad rule was owned by gphoto2

I've had a chance to get back to this machine and this is what it is
showing: ==
# hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes
11:16:08.930 [I] hald.c:533: hal 0.5.9
11:16:08.931 [I] hald.c:598: Will not daemonize
11:16:08.945 [I] hald_dbus.c:4807: local server is listening at
unix:abstract=/var/run/hald/dbus-1LzyssbMzl,guid=faadd829b7aaff57dce0510046
b451e8 11:16:09.174 [I] hald_runner.c:299: Runner has pid 31241
11:16:09.180 [W] ci-tracker.c:200: Could not get uid for connection:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner Could not get UID of
name 'org.freedesktop.DBus': no such name
11:16:09.181 [E] hald_dbus.c:4462: Cannot get caller info for
org.freedesktop.DBus
Runner started - allowed paths
are '/usr/libexec:/usr/lib/hal/scripts:/usr/bin'
11:16:09.196 [I] hald_runner.c:180: runner connection is 0x8096988
11:16:09.330 [I] mmap_cache.c:251: cache mtime is 1184442336
*** [DIE] osspec.c:watch_fdi_files():349 : Unable to initialize inotify:
Function not implemented
==

What do you make of this?


I removed /usr/share/hal and tried to remerge it.  It complained that I MUST 
compile pciutils without the zlib flag.  Not sure why pciutils has the zlib 
flag as a default, but if it is causing a problem with hal shouldn't it be 
removed?


Anyway, after masking zlib for pciutils and remerging both packages it now 
seems to be working again . . .


Thanks for your suggestions.


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[gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant and preferred_aps (not associating)

2007-08-06 Thread Ow Mun Heng
I'm not sure what happened and my effort to find out what happened is
still largely surmised by  don't know yet

Anyway, using ipw2100 and wpa_supplicant

I followed the gentoo guide and put in the 
network={
key_mgmt=NONE
priority=-999
}

such that it will pick up any un-encrypted APs.

Then suddenly it was not associating anymore.

I've ran wpa_supplicant on the command line and it kept spitting out
SSID Mismatch

I only got things to work after I added the SSID into the list in
wpa_supplicant.conf

Previously preferred_aps will work.

Does anyone have any clue?

BTW, when I do iwconfig, I get the message that the wireless tools has
been compiled with version 20 when the kernel version is version 22.

I've already re-compiled wireless-tools-28

(or should I upgrade it to 29_pre22??)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Remy Blank escribió:

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
  
Now think there's a new version available of LIB, let's say version 2.1, 
but the latest version of APP is still 1.0. If portage performed a deep 
update by default LIB would be rebuilt, but no APP, what would cause 
broken dependencies on APP (remember LIB is a dynamic library). However, 
is you don't update LIB unless you update also APP you will prevent this 
problem*.



That's what revdep-rebuild is for. Update your LIB, run revdep-rebuild,
and if APP is really broken by the LIB update (it doesn't have to be),
it will be rebuilt.

-- Remy

  
That is indeed true, however, it will always be better keeping things 
right than breaking and fixing as a rule, don't you think?


Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Neil Bothwick escribió:

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:45:25 +0200, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:

  

Now think there's a new version available of LIB, let's say version
2.1, but the latest version of APP is still 1.0. If portage performed a
deep update by default LIB would be rebuilt, but no APP, what would
cause broken dependencies on APP (remember LIB is a dynamic library).
However, is you don't update LIB unless you update also APP you will
prevent this problem*.



SLOTs deal with this problem, allowing you to have LIB-1.0 and LIB-2.0
installed simultaneously.
  


I'm afraid you misunderstood what I said. As you said, slots let 
different versions of the same package being installed in your system, 
however, that's only done when you REALLY need to do so; one of the 
cases in which you would have such a necessity is the one of a library 
which changes its API through versions in a way that breaks backwards 
compatibility. In this case you may have apps using the old API and apps 
using the new one, and hence you would need both versions installed.


However, if you can go with only one version slots aren't used, can you 
imagine the great amount of garbage installed in your box if you had to 
use a new slot for every new version of a package? That's just crazy.


In conclusion, if you update a library and uninstall its previous 
version (which you'd do very often, even if you haven't noticed it 
before) you may need to rebuild the apps using that library as well, 
there's no way you escape from that.


Abraham

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[gentoo-user] Re: portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Remy Blank
Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
 That is indeed true, however, it will always be better keeping things 
 right than breaking and fixing as a rule, don't you think?

The thing is, you will *have to* break things at some point anyway. In
your case, it will be when you decide to update LIB (because you want to
have the new features, or because another package needs the new
version). Between the LIB update and the APP recompilation, APP will be
broken.

Even worse, if you don't know that the LIB update will break APP, you
might not notice immediately that APP is broken, or you might only get
some strange results from APP. That's where revdep-rebuild steps in: it
can tell you that APP is broken, and what's needed to fix it. So you're
better off running it consistently after your regular updates.

-- Remy



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Remy Blank escribió:

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
  
That is indeed true, however, it will always be better keeping things 
right than breaking and fixing as a rule, don't you think?



The thing is, you will *have to* break things at some point anyway. In
your case, it will be when you decide to update LIB (because you want to
have the new features, or because another package needs the new
version). Between the LIB update and the APP recompilation, APP will be
broken.

Even worse, if you don't know that the LIB update will break APP, you
might not notice immediately that APP is broken, or you might only get
some strange results from APP. That's where revdep-rebuild steps in: it
can tell you that APP is broken, and what's needed to fix it. So you're
better off running it consistently after your regular updates.

  


I'm not talking about not needing revdep-rebuild nor saying non-deep 
updates would prevent breaking dependencies, I just said that non-deep 
updates will *reduce* the amount of packages that need to be rebuilt. I 
systematically run revdep-rebuild after every update world (in fact, 
it's all in a script which performs update world, revdep-rebuild and 
update-eix), but I'd rather have it reinstalling 2 packages than 20. 
That's all.


Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:40:38 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:

 Even worse, if you don't know that the LIB update will break APP, you
 might not notice immediately that APP is broken, or you might only get
 some strange results from APP. That's where revdep-rebuild steps in: it
 can tell you that APP is broken, and what's needed to fix it. So you're
 better off running it consistently after your regular updates.

If the update is likely to cause such breakage, the ebuild should warn of
this, as many do, giving the exact command to run to fix such breakage
before it becomes a problem.

Such breakages are inevitable on a source based system using dynamic
libraries. Fortunately, being a source based system makes the fix simple.
Try dealing with the same problems on a binary distro.


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[gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread sean
There seems to be a lot of excessive processor usage and I am trying to 
track down why.


Is anyone able to recommend the best way to track down what is causing 
the excess processor usage?


I have not noticed anything using top.

Thanks
Sean

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread Xav'
sean a écrit :
 There seems to be a lot of excessive processor usage and I am trying to
 track down why.
 
 Is anyone able to recommend the best way to track down what is causing
 the excess processor usage?
 
 I have not noticed anything using top.
So how do you know there is an excessive processor usage ? Could you describe
more precisely what you want to mean ?
 
 Thanks
 Sean
 

Regards,
Xavier Parizet

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

sean escribió:
There seems to be a lot of excessive processor usage and I am trying 
to track down why.


Is anyone able to recommend the best way to track down what is causing 
the excess processor usage?


I have not noticed anything using top.

Thanks
Sean


If top doesn't show up anything only two things come to my mind:

1) There's no excess processor usage
2) Someone compromised your system and maybe added an application that 
is using you cpu, but also changed top so it doesn't show this new 
application (might seem paranoid, but I've seen it before).


Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread Duane Griffin
On 06/08/07, sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There seems to be a lot of excessive processor usage and I am trying to
 track down why.

 Is anyone able to recommend the best way to track down what is causing
 the excess processor usage?

 I have not noticed anything using top.

You might want to look at sysstat for tracking system load:
app-admin/sysstat

Oprofile will track down exactly what is happening on your box (modulo
particularly clever root-kits). It requires kernel support and can be
a bit daunting, but is very powerful:
dev-util/oprofile

 Thanks
 Sean

Cheers,
Duane.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread Xav'
Abraham Marín Pérez a écrit :
 sean escribió:
 There seems to be a lot of excessive processor usage and I am trying
 to track down why.

 Is anyone able to recommend the best way to track down what is causing
 the excess processor usage?

 I have not noticed anything using top.

 Thanks
 Sean

 If top doesn't show up anything only two things come to my mind:
 
 1) There's no excess processor usage
 2) Someone compromised your system and maybe added an application that
 is using you cpu, but also changed top so it doesn't show this new
 application (might seem paranoid, but I've seen it before).
 
 Abraham
 
If you want to check there is no such program on your system, I advice you to
try chkrootkit, to check there is no such rootkit on your system...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread sean

Xav' wrote:


So how do you know there is an excessive processor usage ? Could you describe
more precisely what you want to mean ?


Have gkrellm2 monitoring CPU usage and often for varied lengths of time 
will see a long and increased processor usage, this usually occurs on CPU1.

Things get a bit sluggish when this happens. This is a recent problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] distcc with other distro (Debian)

2007-08-06 Thread Dominik Zajac
Hi,

if there is an gcc version problem icecream is your friend
there you dont have so big problems with different gcc versions
and it is easier to configure



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  incompatibilities / inconsistencies between Gentoo and Debian, but I'm
  sure others on this list can advise you better.

 distcc only farms out the actual compiling.  Pre-processing is done
 locally,
 so it uses your local header files.  Linking is also done locally, so it
 will
 use your local libraries. [1]

 That said, if you have incompatible compilers (e.g. gcc-3.3 vs. gcc-3.4)
 you
 may have issues, and they may or may not be caught at link time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 6. August 2007, sean wrote:
 Xav' wrote:
  So how do you know there is an excessive processor usage ? Could you
  describe more precisely what you want to mean ?

 Have gkrellm2 monitoring CPU usage and often for varied lengths of time
 will see a long and increased processor usage, this usually occurs on CPU1.
 Things get a bit sluggish when this happens. This is a recent problem.

I suspect IO. Disk IO makes everything slow. Especially if swap is involved.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:30:01 +0200 Xav' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you want to check there is no such program on your system, I
 advice you to try chkrootkit, to check there is no such rootkit on
 your system...

To put it correctly, since there is _NO_ way to assure that there isn't
a rootkit:

chkrootkit can be used to check whether there _are_ _known_ rootkits.

BTW, there are other, similar programs that do the same.
But my point is: You can never be sure, since a hypothesis can't be
proven correct, just invalid.

If there are indications a rootkit might be present, there's no secure
way to remove it but to reinstall.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread sean

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

On Montag, 6. August 2007, sean wrote:

Xav' wrote:

So how do you know there is an excessive processor usage ? Could you
describe more precisely what you want to mean ?

Have gkrellm2 monitoring CPU usage and often for varied lengths of time
will see a long and increased processor usage, this usually occurs on CPU1.
Things get a bit sluggish when this happens. This is a recent problem.


I suspect IO. Disk IO makes everything slow. Especially if swap is involved.


Thanks Volker,

I will have to look this one over carefully.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread sean

Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:30:01 +0200 Xav' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If you want to check there is no such program on your system, I
advice you to try chkrootkit, to check there is no such rootkit on
your system...


To put it correctly, since there is _NO_ way to assure that there isn't
a rootkit:

chkrootkit can be used to check whether there _are_ _known_ rootkits.

BTW, there are other, similar programs that do the same.
But my point is: You can never be sure, since a hypothesis can't be
proven correct, just invalid.

If there are indications a rootkit might be present, there's no secure
way to remove it but to reinstall.

-hwh



Hans, Xav, Thank You both, ran the root kit check no problems.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:49:01 -0400, sean wrote:

 Hans, Xav, Thank You both, ran the root kit check no problems.

Which may not prove much. Rootkit detectors (I prefer rkhunter BTW) are
most effective when installed before a computer is open to infection. If
you install it on a machine that has already been rootkitted, the rootkit
may be able to conceal itself.


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[gentoo-user] Switch to Unicode

2007-08-06 Thread alain . didierjean

I'm a french man. As such, I use iso-8859-15 encoding system wide w/o problem.

Few questions:
- Should I switch to UTF-8 ?
- Why ?

- Any known problems related to this migration ?

As usual, I found a gentoo.org doc about it  will use it if necessary, but I'd
like some users feedback.

Be happy.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switch to Unicode

2007-08-06 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Monday, 6. August 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a french man. As such, I use iso-8859-15 encoding system wide w/o
 problem.

 Few questions:
 - Should I switch to UTF-8 ?
 - Why ?

 - Any known problems related to this migration ?

 As usual, I found a gentoo.org doc about it  will use it if necessary, but
 I'd like some users feedback.

 Be happy.

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   ~adj~

I did the switch with no big problem, but I regularely receive mail (in French 
or German) where I have to change the encoding in kmail to get the correct 
caracters.

I don't know if this is rather a problem of the sender or of kmail not 
identifying the encoding correctly (the setting is set to auto-detect.

Thierry 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread James
Hans-Werner Hilse hilse at web.de writes:

  If you want to check there is no such program on your system, I
  advice you to try chkrootkit, to check there is no such rootkit on
  your system...

 To put it correctly, since there is _NO_ way to assure that there isn't
 a rootkit:

 chkrootkit can be used to check whether there _are_ _known_ rootkits.

 BTW, there are other, similar programs that do the same.
 But my point is: You can never be sure, since a hypothesis can't be
 proven correct, just invalid.


Well you are right and you are wrong.
You are right for noobs.

If the person has a second system and sets up a flat hub and the
ethernet in stealth mode, you can sniff the ethernet I/O all day
long and use a variety of tools to discern if nefarious activities
abound on a given system. Sure it's a bit of work, but all hacked
systems I've ever seen use the system to ethernet I/O.  They can
encrypt that traffic, but if you know what should/not be traversing
the ethernet, there is no way to hide an actively compromised 
system. 

If the hacker scantly uses resources, and is elite, often it's the
best thing for a noob, because they keep the systems in pristine
condition

building a gentoo based firewall, that runs off of a  non rewritable
media (CD and such) is definitely a good idea, if you want to 
control your resource utilization


ymmv,
hth,

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[gentoo-user] Configuration Situation

2007-08-06 Thread Colleen Beamer
Hi,

I was having trouble with my desktop and couldn't get it to boot.  There
were some files on the hard drive that hadn't been included in my last
backup that I wanted.  On a lark, I took the hard drive out of my
desktop (built by me) and put it into and old Dell Optiplex GX100 that I
have.  Yes, I know - different hardware.

I booted to the Gentoo Stage 3 installation CD and pretty much followed
all the steps that are in the Gentoo Handbook.  The only things that I
didn't do were partition the hard drive and do the section on installing
Grub.  The problem that I am having with the installation is that the
install CD recognized my network device and the internet connection
works fine, even in the chroot'd environment.  However, when I boot from
the hard drive, the network connection is *not* recognized.  The card is
a 3Com 905C and the driver that I am supposed to load, according to
Help when I was compiling genkernel, is 3c90x.  However, when I boot,
I get an error when it comes to configuring dhcp.  dmesg provides no
help 'cause it looks like it is loading the appropriate driver.  And
before you ask - :-) I *did* do the step 'cp -L /etc/resolv.conf
/mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf when I was supposed to.  (I'm adding that
last comment because it *was* a step I missed the first couple of times
I installed Gentoo!)

Any ideas?

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 06 August 2007, sean wrote:
 Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:30:01 +0200 Xav' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you want to check there is no such program on your system, I
  advice you to try chkrootkit, to check there is no such rootkit on
  your system...
 
  To put it correctly, since there is _NO_ way to assure that there isn't
  a rootkit:
 
  chkrootkit can be used to check whether there _are_ _known_ rootkits.
 
  BTW, there are other, similar programs that do the same.
  But my point is: You can never be sure, since a hypothesis can't be
  proven correct, just invalid.
 
  If there are indications a rootkit might be present, there's no secure
  way to remove it but to reinstall.
 
  -hwh

 Hans, Xav, Thank You both, ran the root kit check no problems.

The problems remain: You can't be sure. :-(

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread Paul
so there is always an assumption

On 8/6/07, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 06 August 2007, sean wrote:
  Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
   Hi,
  
   On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:30:01 +0200 Xav' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   If you want to check there is no such program on your system, I
   advice you to try chkrootkit, to check there is no such rootkit on
   your system...
  
   To put it correctly, since there is _NO_ way to assure that there
 isn't
   a rootkit:
  
   chkrootkit can be used to check whether there _are_ _known_ rootkits.
  
   BTW, there are other, similar programs that do the same.
   But my point is: You can never be sure, since a hypothesis can't be
   proven correct, just invalid.
  
   If there are indications a rootkit might be present, there's no secure
   way to remove it but to reinstall.
  
   -hwh
 
  Hans, Xav, Thank You both, ran the root kit check no problems.

 The problems remain: You can't be sure. :-(

 Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuration Situation

2007-08-06 Thread Paul
what is the output of ifconfig -a
does it show the device, or is it just a problem with dhcp?


On 8/6/07, Colleen Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I was having trouble with my desktop and couldn't get it to boot.  There
 were some files on the hard drive that hadn't been included in my last
 backup that I wanted.  On a lark, I took the hard drive out of my
 desktop (built by me) and put it into and old Dell Optiplex GX100 that I
 have.  Yes, I know - different hardware.

 I booted to the Gentoo Stage 3 installation CD and pretty much followed
 all the steps that are in the Gentoo Handbook.  The only things that I
 didn't do were partition the hard drive and do the section on installing
 Grub.  The problem that I am having with the installation is that the
 install CD recognized my network device and the internet connection
 works fine, even in the chroot'd environment.  However, when I boot from
 the hard drive, the network connection is *not* recognized.  The card is
 a 3Com 905C and the driver that I am supposed to load, according to
 Help when I was compiling genkernel, is 3c90x.  However, when I boot,
 I get an error when it comes to configuring dhcp.  dmesg provides no
 help 'cause it looks like it is loading the appropriate driver.  And
 before you ask - :-) I *did* do the step 'cp -L /etc/resolv.conf
 /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf when I was supposed to.  (I'm adding that
 last comment because it *was* a step I missed the first couple of times
 I installed Gentoo!)

 Any ideas?

 Regards,

 Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuration Situation

2007-08-06 Thread Colleen Beamer
Paul wrote:
 what is the output of ifconfig -a
 does it show the device, or is it just a problem with dhcp?

ifconfig -a shows the device just fine.  And for what it's worth, I
rebuilt dhcpcd while I was in the chroot'd environment.

Regards,

Colleen

  
 On 8/6/07, *Colleen Beamer* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I was having trouble with my desktop and couldn't get it to
 boot.  There
 were some files on the hard drive that hadn't been included in my
 last
 backup that I wanted.  On a lark, I took the hard drive out of my
 desktop (built by me) and put it into and old Dell Optiplex GX100
 that I
 have.  Yes, I know - different hardware.

 I booted to the Gentoo Stage 3 installation CD and pretty much
 followed
 all the steps that are in the Gentoo Handbook.  The only things that I
 didn't do were partition the hard drive and do the section on
 installing
 Grub.  The problem that I am having with the installation is that the
 install CD recognized my network device and the internet connection
 works fine, even in the chroot'd environment.  However, when I
 boot from
 the hard drive, the network connection is *not* recognized.  The
 card is
 a 3Com 905C and the driver that I am supposed to load, according to
 Help when I was compiling genkernel, is 3c90x.  However, when I
 boot,
 I get an error when it comes to configuring dhcp.  dmesg provides no
 help 'cause it looks like it is loading the appropriate driver.  And
 before you ask - :-) I *did* do the step 'cp -L /etc/resolv.conf
 /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf when I was supposed to.  (I'm adding that
 last comment because it *was* a step I missed the first couple of
 times
 I installed Gentoo!)

 Any ideas?

 Regards,

 Colleen

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[gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia-drivers stopped working

2007-08-06 Thread Marc Blumentritt
You did check the new and updated nvidia guide?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

Regards,
Marc

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[gentoo-user] Unknown Tool hd

2007-08-06 Thread Linux
I have a problem with a script refering to several tools, one is hd
-snip-
TESTECHO=$($ECHO -e '\061\062' \
| hd \
| grep -Eom1 '^[[digit:]]+[[:space:]]+[[digit:]]+[[:space:]]+[[digit:]]+' \
| tr -s '\t ' ' '
-snip-
Searching has proved fruitless, I *think* it may be a Debian tool/script. 
 Any pointers ? Please !!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switch to Unicode

2007-08-06 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
 On Monday, 6. August 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm a french man. As such, I use iso-8859-15 encoding system
  wide w/o problem.
 
  Few questions:
  - Should I switch to UTF-8 ?

If you have no problems, then just stick with ISO-8859-15.  But 
switching to UTF-8 now, when you have time to deal with any 
problems, will save you from doing it when it becomes a pressing 
need for some reason.

 I regularely receive mail (in French or German) where I have to
 change the encoding in kmail to get the correct caracters.

 I don't know if this is rather a problem of the sender or of
 kmail not identifying the encoding correctly (the setting is set
 to auto-detect.

Where do you set KMail to do auto-detect?  As far as I can tell, 
KMail always obeys the encoding specification given in the mail 
itself, and probably only in the absence of that tries to do some 
autodetection.

What exactly these Fallback encoding and Override encoding do in 
Settings  Configure KMail  Appearance  Message window, I haven't 
been able to figure out.

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuration Situation

2007-08-06 Thread Colleen Beamer
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Colleen Beamer schrieb:
   
 However, when I boot from
 the hard drive, the network connection is *not* recognized.  The card is
 a 3Com 905C and the driver that I am supposed to load, according to
 Help when I was compiling genkernel, is 3c90x.  However, when I boot,
 I get an error when it comes to configuring dhcp.  dmesg provides no
 help 'cause it looks like it is loading the appropriate driver.  And
 before you ask - :-) I *did* do the step 'cp -L /etc/resolv.conf
 /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf when I was supposed to.  (I'm adding that
 last comment because it *was* a step I missed the first couple of times
 I installed Gentoo!)

 Any ideas?
 
  

Stefan, you are totally my hero, in an ethereal sort of way! ;-)  This
worked!  And another lesson learned - one of the many, many reasons I
*absolutely love* Gentoo - I've learned *so* much!

Thanks ever so much!  :-)

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[gentoo-user] OT: Bibble Pro 4

2007-08-06 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Has anyone used the Linux version of the Bibble photo editing software?

Tony

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[gentoo-user] Re: VIDEO_CARDS= Intel Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller ?

2007-08-06 Thread James
W.Kenworthy billk at iinet.net.au writes:


 For my Sony:
 Section Device
 Identifier  i915
 Driver  i810
 VideoRam32768
 Option  DPMS  On
 Option  DDC   Off
 Option  IgnoreEDIDtrue
 Option  MonitorLayout CRT,LFP
 Option  Clone true
 Option  CloneRefresh  60
 #Option NoAccel
 BusID   PCI:0:2:0
 #Option ForceBIOS 1366x768=1280x1024
 Screen  0
 EndSection


Hello,

This did not work for the 965GM chipset this
sony viao (VGN-FZ140E) has.

I went to the vesa driver and have it working at
800x600...

I'll keep after it until I figure it out. For now
I have a baseline xwindows running...
Looking around the net folks are talking about the 
latest driver release from Intel, for X does cover this
chipset, so it's a waiting game for it to make it to
gentoo.

Also I guess after reading quite a lot, SONY is pretty much
not very friendly to the greater Linux community..

thanks,

James



thanks for the ideas.


James

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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuration Situation

2007-08-06 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Colleen Beamer schrieb:
 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Colleen Beamer schrieb:
   
 However, when I boot from
 the hard drive, the network connection is *not* recognized.  The card is
 a 3Com 905C and the driver that I am supposed to load, according to
 Help when I was compiling genkernel, is 3c90x.  However, when I boot,
 I get an error when it comes to configuring dhcp.  dmesg provides no
 help 'cause it looks like it is loading the appropriate driver.  And
 before you ask - :-) I *did* do the step 'cp -L /etc/resolv.conf
 /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf when I was supposed to.  (I'm adding that
 last comment because it *was* a step I missed the first couple of times
 I installed Gentoo!)

 Any ideas?
 
  
 
 Stefan, you are totally my hero, in an ethereal sort of way! ;-)  

I consider quoting this on my website ... ;-)

 This
 worked!  And another lesson learned - one of the many, many reasons I
 *absolutely love* Gentoo - I've learned *so* much!
 
 Thanks ever so much!  :-)

I am happy it worked out for you.
Stefan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flashplayer 9 working for anybody?

2007-08-06 Thread Drew Tomlinson

On 8/3/2007 7:15 AM Grant Edwards wrote:

On 2007-08-03, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Grant Edwards ha scritto:


Flashplayer 9 doesn't seem to work for me.  I've tried it in
both Opera and Firefox, but for most videos (e.g. nytimes.com)
it just sits there with the spinning loading arrow.  Clicking
play does nothing.
  

Working here.

I had a similar problem on a Kubuntu system, and it was audio related
(disabling aRTs was the solution). Are you using aRTs, gstreamer or similar?



No, and flashplayer doesn't have any problems with sound on
videos from other sites or with videos using a smaller format
on nytimes.com
  


This may help:

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=186198

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switch to Unicode

2007-08-06 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Monday, 6. August 2007, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
 Where do you set KMail to do auto-detect?  As far as I can tell,
 KMail always obeys the encoding specification given in the mail
 itself, and probably only in the absence of that tries to do some
 autodetection.

You seem to be right - I've checked on a series of mails and this setting does 
change - seems to quite often be on autodetect, though...

 What exactly these Fallback encoding and Override encoding do in
 Settings  Configure KMail  Appearance  Message window, I haven't
 been able to figure out.

 Benno
Dunno either. I've tried different choices but it does not ssem to change 
anything.

Thierry

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