Re: [gentoo-user] unable to login to user account or do su - username

2009-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 May 2009 06:04:16 Valmor de Almeida wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Sunday 03 May 2009 04:53:41 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
  On Sat, 02 May 2009 20:52:39 -0400
 
  I don't know about motd, but the rest looks like pam problem to me, if
  you're using pam, of course. Try 'euse -i pam' to see if it's enabled.
 
  If that's the case, first of all I'd suggest to check etc-update.
  Then look through /etc/pam.d, especially system-* files. There you can
  remove some of the required (for successfull authentication) modules,
  so their failure won't affect the process.
 
  And read the elogs. There's been some pam updates come through on my
  machines the last few weeks/months.

 I re-emerged pam and following this message:

 --
 LOG: postinst
 Starting from version 20080801, pambase optionally enables
 SHA512-hashed passwords. For this to work, you need sys-libs/pam-1.0.1
 built against sys-libs/glibc-2.7 or later.

I imagine this constraint is satisfied on your machines, otherwise that pam 
would not have been emerged due to blockers in the ebuild

[snip]

 since I find this in /etc/pam.d/system-auth

 
 passwordrequiredpam_unix.so try_first_pass use_authtok
 nullok sha512 shadow
 --

 After these changes (do I need to reboot? I am doing this remotely so I
 will have to wait till I can sit on the console) still can't login or su
 to 3 of the accounts. Also created a new account and no luck login to to
 it nor using su. Apparently  newly created accounts definitely are
 affected. Older accounts still work (???)

You don't need to reboot - pam config is dynamic. Here's a quick go/no-go 
experiment to see if it's the new hashes that are doing it. Find an account 
that can sudo to root on the affected machines and examine the shadow file. 
See what kind of hashes the affected accounts are using. md5 is 34 characters 
long and sha512 is 98 in this format:

$x$salt$hash
x is 1 for md5 and 6 for sha512. salt is 8 characters for both

If the affected account is sha512, run

openssl passwd -1

to generate an md5 hash, and copy paste it back into field 2 of your account 
in shadow. You might want to comment out a copy of the original line just in 
case. See if sudo now works. If so, hashes are the problem. If not, we should 
look further, especially at the pam config for sudo.

Here's mine which works:

authinclude system-auth
account include system-auth
passwordinclude system-auth
session include system-auth

And you did confirm that sudo checks for wheel group membership, and that you 
are still in this group?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] root-nfs question

2009-05-04 Thread Cocoy Dayao

Dear list,

I posted this on gentoo forums but maybe you guys could help me out as  
well.  So I wanted to play around with building my own diskless node.  
Yes, I know there are easier ways to do this. Automated tools like  
Caos Linux, etc. etc. Anyway, I wanted to use gentoo and learn from  
the ground up. So I booted a box via pxe, tftp and dhcp. it boots---  
but can't seem to find NFS.


And yes, i've googled. none have worked. I don't know what I'm missing.

I get this:

rpcbind: server 192.168.2.1 not responding, timed out
Root-NFS: Unable to get nfsd port number from server, using default
Looking up port of RPC 15/1 on 192.168.2.1
rpcbind: server 192.168.2.1 not responding, timed out
Root-NFS: Unable to get mountd port number from server, using default
Root-NFS: Server returned error -5 while mounting /diskless/192.168.2.11
VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS, tryi9ng floppy.
VFS: Cannot open root device nfs or unknown-block(2,0)
Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown- 
block(2,0)


Both client and server have root nfs turned on it their respective  
kernel.


i have turned off the firewall on the server and still get the same  
error.


pxelinux.cfg is this:

DEFAULT /kernel8
APPEND root=/dev/nfs rw nfsroot=192.168.2.1:/diskless/192.168.2.11  
init=sbin/init


this is rpcinfo:

talon dhcp # rpcinfo -p 192.168.2.1
   program vers proto   port
104   tcp111  portmapper
103   tcp111  portmapper
102   tcp111  portmapper
104   udp111  portmapper
103   udp111  portmapper
102   udp111  portmapper
1000241   udp  45975  status
1000241   tcp  57882  status
151   udp  57290  mountd
151   tcp  50765  mountd
152   udp  57290  mountd
152   tcp  50765  mountd
153   udp  57290  mountd
153   tcp  50765  mountd
132   udp   2049  nfs
133   udp   2049  nfs
1000211   udp  57739  nlockmgr
1000213   udp  57739  nlockmgr
1000214   udp  57739  nlockmgr
1000211   tcp  45392  nlockmgr
1000213   tcp  45392  nlockmgr
1000214   tcp  45392  nlockmgr
132   tcp   2049  nfs
133   tcp   2049  nfs

ps -aef | grep rpc is this:

alon conf.d # ps -aef | grep rpc
root  1101 2  0 18:14 ?00:00:00 [rpciod/0]
root  1102 2  0 18:14 ?00:00:00 [rpciod/1]
root  8332 1  0 18:15 ?00:00:00 /sbin/rpcbind
nobody8356 1  0 18:15 ?00:00:00 /sbin/rpc.statd --no- 
notify

root  8379 1  0 18:15 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd
root  8587  8560  0 18:22 pts/000:00:00 grep --colour=auto rpc

tcpdump:

17), length 57) master.talon.11978  node01.talon.57100: UDP, length 29
17:39:47.683582 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 53556, offset 0, flags [DF],  
proto UDP (17), length 52) master.talon.11974  node01.talon.57099:  
UDP, length 24
17:39:48.451700 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 54326, offset 0, flags [DF],  
proto UDP (17), length 57) master.talon.11976  node01.talon.57100:  
UDP, length 29
17:39:49.665576 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 63547, offset 0, flags [DF],  
proto UDP (17), length 57) master.talon.11978  node01.talon.57100:  
UDP, length 29
17:39:49.762700 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 55637, offset 0, flags [DF],  
proto UDP (17), length 57) master.talon.11975  node01.talon.57100:  
UDP, length 29

17:39:50.661534 arp who-has node01.talon tell master.talon
17:39:51.662530 arp who-has node01.talon tell master.talon
17:39:52.401575 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 58276, offset 0, flags [DF],  
proto UDP (17), length 57) master.talon.11977  node01.talon.57100:  
UDP, length 29

17:39:52.662526 arp who-has node01.talon tell master.talon
17:39:54.471660 arp who-has node01.talon tell master.talon

arp--- that's the point where kernel panic occurs.

this is my /etc/exports file:

#/etc/exports: NFS file systems being exported.  See exports(5).
/diskless/192.168.2.11   
*(rw,no_root_squash,no_all_squash,no_subtree_check)

/opt192.168.2.0/24(ro,no_root_squash,no_all_squash,no_subtree_check)
/usr192.168.2.0/24(ro,no_root_squash,no_all_squash,no_subtree_check)
/home   192.168.2.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,no_all_squash,no_subtree_check)

/var/log 
192.168.2.11(rw,no_root_squash,no_all_squash,no_subtree_check)


my dhcp configuration is this:

# my dhcpd.conf for diskless clients
allow booting;
#allow bootp;

#tftp
next-server 192.168.2.1;
#option root-path /diskless/192.168.2.11;

option space PXE;
option PXE.mtftp-ip   code 1 = ip-address;
option PXE.mtftp-cportcode 2 = unsigned integer 16;
option PXE.mtftp-sportcode 3 = unsigned integer 16;
option PXE.mtftp-tmoutcode 4 = unsigned integer 8;
option PXE.mtftp-delaycode 5 = unsigned integer 8;
option PXE.discovery-control  code 6 = unsigned integer 8;
option 

[gentoo-user] Re: nanosleep broken on ~amd64?

2009-05-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Arttu V. wrote:

walt wrote:

Could someone else compile the test and confirm that it returns 119 on
~amd64 instead of 0?


It returns 119 on an semi-ancient Athlon64 3200+ box here as well.

Could kernel HZ-settings affect the outcome? This box has CONFIG_HZ=250, 
but tomorrow I can try on another amd64 which runs a 1000HZ kernel IIRC.


119 here on AMD64 with a not-so-ancient Core 2 Duo and a kernel timer of 
1000Hz (gentoo-sources-2.6.28-r5).





Re: [gentoo-user] Canon PowerShot A400 Gentoo [SOLVED]

2009-05-04 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky
Thanks all, camera works well :)

Short summary:

   1. Search your camera in supported camera list
  http://gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php
   2. Install photo manager gtkam, gphoto2 or F-Spot (by manual
  http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/F-Spot that is my favourite manager).
   3. Add your user to groups usb, haldaemon and plugdev (may be you
  will need group camera too).
   4. Start your photo manager and if it cannot see your camera,
  download and install the latest version of libgphoto from
  http://gphoto.org/ (2.4.5 now).

Enjoy!

-- 
Alexander Pilipovsky aka Engraver



Re: [gentoo-user] root-nfs question

2009-05-04 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Hi,

 rpcbind: server 192.168.2.1 not responding, timed out
 Root-NFS: Unable to get nfsd port number from server, using default
 Looking up port of RPC 15/1 on 192.168.2.1
 rpcbind: server 192.168.2.1 not responding, timed out
 Root-NFS: Unable to get mountd port number from server, using default
 Root-NFS: Server returned error -5 while mounting /diskless/192.168.2.11
 VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS, tryi9ng floppy.
 VFS: Cannot open root device nfs or unknown-block(2,0)
 Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-
 block(2,0)

 Both client and server have root nfs turned on it their respective
 kernel.
Make sure the client also has CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP=y and the necessary NIC 
drivers compiled in (not as module).

 pxelinux.cfg is this:

 DEFAULT /kernel8
 APPEND root=/dev/nfs rw nfsroot=192.168.2.1:/diskless/192.168.2.11
 init=sbin/init
Add ip=dhcp to APPEND so that the kernel does DHCP again for an IP. Otherwise 
it might not be connected to the network when it boots and be unable to reach 
the NFS server.


Greetings,
Sascha



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[gentoo-user] Removing Packages with Portage

2009-05-04 Thread Matt Causey
Hello all!

I am a Gentoo n00b.  I have  question about what the 'expected
behaviour' is/should be when removing packages under Gentoo package
management.  So I read this document:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?style=printablefull=1#book_part2

And it says, to remove software, use  'emerge --unmerge'.  Cool, yeah
that seems to do what I expect... So, I have a package madwifi-ng,
which contains some kernel modules.  I want to emerge --unmerge that
package, because I want to make those drivers go away.  That seems to
go well, as when I search for it in portage it show all non-installed
and stuff:

prometheus ~ # emerge --search madwifi-ng
Searching...
[ Results for search key : madwifi-ng ]
[ Applications found : 2 ]

*  net-wireless/madwifi-ng
  Latest version available: 0.9.4
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of files: 3,403 kB
  Homepage:  http://www.madwifi-project.org/
  Description:   Next Generation driver for Atheros based IEEE
802.11a/b/g wireless LAN cards
  License:   atheros-hal || ( BSD GPL-2 )

Buuut, there are still kernel modules there, which are owned by that package:

prometheus ~ # ls -lah /lib/modules/2.6.28-gentoo-r5/net/ath_pci.ko
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77K May  3 20:43
/lib/modules/2.6.28-gentoo-r5/net/ath_pci.ko
prometheus ~ #

and of course they still load.

Sooo, my question.  What is the expected behaviour here?  Are the
ebuilds intended to maintain knowledge of the files they put on a
system, so they can remove the binaries when --unmerge'd?  Are kernel
modules handled differently because of the possibility of damaging a
working system?

Thanks!

--
Matt



Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Packages with Portage

2009-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 May 2009 10:45:00 +0100, Matt Causey wrote:

 Sooo, my question.  What is the expected behaviour here?  Are the
 ebuilds intended to maintain knowledge of the files they put on a
 system, so they can remove the binaries when --unmerge'd?  Are kernel
 modules handled differently because of the possibility of damaging a
 working system?

The latter. The user programs will be gone but the kernel modules stay.
With more normal packages, the only files that are not removed are
those in CONFIG_PROTECTed directories and those that have been modified
since installation.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Out of body, be back in five minutes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] root-nfs question

2009-05-04 Thread Cocoy Dayao

hi,






pxelinux.cfg is this:

DEFAULT /kernel8
APPEND root=/dev/nfs rw nfsroot=192.168.2.1:/diskless/192.168.2.11
init=sbin/init
Add ip=dhcp to APPEND so that the kernel does DHCP again for an IP.  
Otherwise
it might not be connected to the network when it boots and be unable  
to reach

the NFS server.


Greetings,
Sascha




Thanks! did this and it worked!

Cheers!



Cocoy
www.twitter.com/cocoy
People who are really serious about software should make their own  
hardware -- Alan Kay




[gentoo-user] Re: gnome-terminal GNU screen

2009-05-04 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 21:25, Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a problem running screen in a gnome-terminal: all the usual
 keystroks (for example: ^a c) don't work. When i press ctrl+a d, i
 just get a d on the terminal. Screen works perfectly when i start it
 in a xterm.
 I haven't got a clue where to search for the problem. Any ideas?

A small follow up:
i've discoverd the source of the problem: the a en q key are switched.
When i use ^q everything works as it should. But i my screenrc it
says: escape ^aa. My keyboard layout is azerty (using evdev  hal).
In every other program, ^a (select-all) works as it should. Any idea
why in gnome-terminal, ^a and ^q are switched?

Thanks,

Ward



Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Packages with Portage

2009-05-04 Thread KH
Neil Bothwick schrieb:
 On Mon, 4 May 2009 10:45:00 +0100, Matt Causey wrote:
 
 Sooo, my question.  What is the expected behaviour here?  Are the
 ebuilds intended to maintain knowledge of the files they put on a
 system, so they can remove the binaries when --unmerge'd?  Are kernel
 modules handled differently because of the possibility of damaging a
 working system?
 
 The latter. The user programs will be gone but the kernel modules stay.
 With more normal packages, the only files that are not removed are
 those in CONFIG_PROTECTed directories and those that have been modified
 since installation.
 
 

Anyway you also might want to run an emerge --depclean -av after
unmerging. Maybe there are othere programs not needed anymore at now.

kh



Re: [gentoo-user] What's the deal with CAMERAS anyway?

2009-05-04 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky
I have compiled libgphoto by ./configure, make, make install way. Us I
understand, it does not use settings from make.conf? (If I understand
question with my bad English :D)

Arttu V. wrote:
 Hello,

 Inspired by the other digicam thread I took a quick look at an older
 problem of mine, namely getting libgphoto2 to compile drivers for all
 cameras.

 Anyone got a clue why *not* setting CAMERAS won't build drivers for
 all cameras as claimed several times in the libgphoto2 ebuild?

 All I see is that CAMERAS variable is not handled directly by the
 ebuild (but maybe libgphoto2's Makefiles or build scripts do something
 with it?), and when I comment out CAMERAS=canon line from
 /etc/make.conf, then *poof* libgphoto2 plans to drop even that only
 driver I currently have compiled:

 [ebuild   R   ] media-libs/libgphoto2-2.4.3  USE=exif hal nls
 -bonjour -doc CAMERAS=-adc65 -agfa_cl20 -aox -barbie -canon*
 -casio_qv -clicksmart310 -digigr8 -digita -dimagev -dimera3500
 -directory -enigma13 -fuji -gsmart300 -hp215 -iclick -jamcam -jd11
 -jl2005a -kodak_dc120 -kodak_dc210 -kodak_dc240 -kodak_dc3200
 -kodak_ez200 -konica -konica_qm150 -largan -lg_gsm -mars -mustek
 -panasonic_coolshot -panasonic_dc1000 -panasonic_dc1580
 -panasonic_l859 -pccam300 -pccam600 -polaroid_pdc320 -polaroid_pdc640
 -polaroid_pdc700 -ptp2 -ricoh -ricoh_g3 -samsung -sierra -sipix_blink
 -sipix_blink2 -sipix_web2 -smal -sonix -sony_dscf1 -sony_dscf55
 -soundvision -spca50x -sq905 -stv0674 -stv0680 -sx330z -template
 -topfield -toshiba_pdrm11 5,052 kB

 Something's fishy with this and I just haven't had the time to
 investigate further. A quick glance-comparison shows libgphoto2 ebuild
 missing the critical lines actually doing something with the CAMERAS
 variable -- while for similar variable settings lines exists for,
 e.g., lirc (LIRC_DEVICES) and alsa-driver (ALSA_CARDS) in their
 respective ebuilds.

 After taking a two-minute look at the ebuilds I just have the
 question: is it supposed to work, does leaving it empty work for
 someone?

   

-- 
Alexander Pilipovsky aka Engraver




[gentoo-user] What's the deal with CAMERAS anyway?

2009-05-04 Thread Arttu V.
Hello,

Inspired by the other digicam thread I took a quick look at an older
problem of mine, namely getting libgphoto2 to compile drivers for all
cameras.

Anyone got a clue why *not* setting CAMERAS won't build drivers for
all cameras as claimed several times in the libgphoto2 ebuild?

All I see is that CAMERAS variable is not handled directly by the
ebuild (but maybe libgphoto2's Makefiles or build scripts do something
with it?), and when I comment out CAMERAS=canon line from
/etc/make.conf, then *poof* libgphoto2 plans to drop even that only
driver I currently have compiled:

[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/libgphoto2-2.4.3  USE=exif hal nls
-bonjour -doc CAMERAS=-adc65 -agfa_cl20 -aox -barbie -canon*
-casio_qv -clicksmart310 -digigr8 -digita -dimagev -dimera3500
-directory -enigma13 -fuji -gsmart300 -hp215 -iclick -jamcam -jd11
-jl2005a -kodak_dc120 -kodak_dc210 -kodak_dc240 -kodak_dc3200
-kodak_ez200 -konica -konica_qm150 -largan -lg_gsm -mars -mustek
-panasonic_coolshot -panasonic_dc1000 -panasonic_dc1580
-panasonic_l859 -pccam300 -pccam600 -polaroid_pdc320 -polaroid_pdc640
-polaroid_pdc700 -ptp2 -ricoh -ricoh_g3 -samsung -sierra -sipix_blink
-sipix_blink2 -sipix_web2 -smal -sonix -sony_dscf1 -sony_dscf55
-soundvision -spca50x -sq905 -stv0674 -stv0680 -sx330z -template
-topfield -toshiba_pdrm11 5,052 kB

Something's fishy with this and I just haven't had the time to
investigate further. A quick glance-comparison shows libgphoto2 ebuild
missing the critical lines actually doing something with the CAMERAS
variable -- while for similar variable settings lines exists for,
e.g., lirc (LIRC_DEVICES) and alsa-driver (ALSA_CARDS) in their
respective ebuilds.

After taking a two-minute look at the ebuilds I just have the
question: is it supposed to work, does leaving it empty work for
someone?

-- 
Arttu V.



Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Packages with Portage

2009-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 May 2009 11:45:00 Matt Causey wrote:
 Hello all!

 I am a Gentoo n00b.  I have  question about what the 'expected
 behaviour' is/should be when removing packages under Gentoo package
 management.  So I read this document:

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?style=printablefull
=1#book_part2

 And it says, to remove software, use  'emerge --unmerge'.  Cool, yeah
 that seems to do what I expect... So, I have a package madwifi-ng,
 which contains some kernel modules.  I want to emerge --unmerge that
 package, because I want to make those drivers go away.  That seems to
 go well, as when I search for it in portage it show all non-installed
 and stuff:

 prometheus ~ # emerge --search madwifi-ng
 Searching...
 [ Results for search key : madwifi-ng ]
 [ Applications found : 2 ]

 *  net-wireless/madwifi-ng
   Latest version available: 0.9.4
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
   Size of files: 3,403 kB
   Homepage:  http://www.madwifi-project.org/
   Description:   Next Generation driver for Atheros based IEEE
 802.11a/b/g wireless LAN cards
   License:   atheros-hal || ( BSD GPL-2 )

 Buuut, there are still kernel modules there, which are owned by that
 package:

 prometheus ~ # ls -lah /lib/modules/2.6.28-gentoo-r5/net/ath_pci.ko
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77K May  3 20:43
 /lib/modules/2.6.28-gentoo-r5/net/ath_pci.ko
 prometheus ~ #

 and of course they still load.

 Sooo, my question.  What is the expected behaviour here?  Are the
 ebuilds intended to maintain knowledge of the files they put on a
 system, so they can remove the binaries when --unmerge'd?  

That's the general idea. Except for *this* case :-)

 Are kernel
 modules handled differently because of the possibility of damaging a
 working system?

Out of tree kernel modules are a maintenance pain in the ass, and cause 
severely non-obvious problems like this. Every time you upgrade your kernel, 
you must rebuild the out-of-tree modules, and you do that by re-running 
emerge madwifi-ng. This builds a new modules that matches the currently 
configured kernel (/usr/src/linux/) and puts the module in 
/lib/modules/version

Upgrade your kernel a few times and you have various versions of modules 
floating around. Portage remembers the modules installed by the most recent 
emerge, but AFAIK forgets all the previous ones. This is expected of course - 
when you upgrade firefox-2 to firefox-3 you would not expect the system to 
remember the firefox-2 files (as they are supposed to not be there anymore)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Packages with Portage

2009-05-04 Thread Matt Causey
 Out of tree kernel modules are a maintenance pain in the ass, and cause
 severely non-obvious problems like this. Every time you upgrade your kernel,
 you must rebuild the out-of-tree modules, and you do that by re-running
 emerge madwifi-ng. This builds a new modules that matches the currently
 configured kernel (/usr/src/linux/) and puts the module in
 /lib/modules/version

 Upgrade your kernel a few times and you have various versions of modules
 floating around. Portage remembers the modules installed by the most recent
 emerge, but AFAIK forgets all the previous ones. This is expected of course -
 when you upgrade firefox-2 to firefox-3 you would not expect the system to
 remember the firefox-2 files (as they are supposed to not be there anymore)

Your explanation is extremely helpful here.  Thanks!  As long as I
know the expectation, I can plan for it when troubleshooting.  I can
certainly see the 'pain in the ass' factor there.  :-)  I was
originally chasing a panic caused by ath_pci - but now that I've
looked more closely at the issue that you describe here, I see that I
did manage to get 2 incompatible interdependent modules installed in
the system...grrr.  I'll be doing some more-than-casual tinkering with
ath_pci vs ath5k in the coming weeks, so I'll probably just plan not
to use that ebuild for the present moment.  :-)  Althoughwould it
be non-trivial for me to try and extend the ebuild to make it clean up
after itself on unmerge?

Along the same lines, how does the ebuild know what to remove on
--unmerge?  For example I'm wandering around and looking at ebuilds:

prometheus ethtool # pwd
/usr/portage/sys-apps/ethtool
prometheus ethtool # ls
ChangeLog  Manifest  ethtool-6.ebuild  metadata.xml
prometheus ethtool #

I see nothing in that ebuild which describes the files that ethtool
put on the system.  Yet an --unmerge removes the binaries and
sourceinteresting.

So I found a CONTENTS file:

prometheus ethtool-6 # pwd
/var/db/pkg/sys-apps/ethtool-6
prometheus ethtool-6 # cat CONTENTS
dir /usr
dir /usr/sbin
obj /usr/sbin/ethtool e830749ff2f81cc25b6629b19e93e3e7 1241002052
dir /usr/share
dir /usr/share/doc
dir /usr/share/doc/ethtool-6
obj /usr/share/doc/ethtool-6/NEWS.bz2 8757829b0fb19bb74c968c203fc76b68
1241002049
obj /usr/share/doc/ethtool-6/AUTHORS.bz2
11b48a9d12c1cebcb2ae6bb29e80d1e1 1241002049
obj /usr/share/doc/ethtool-6/ChangeLog.bz2
08b981d7a1afb29bbac1636ae81026c2 1241002049
obj /usr/share/doc/ethtool-6/README.bz2
3188a9ad571f7e4e4d0c1df4479db6d4 1241002049
dir /usr/share/man
dir /usr/share/man/man8
obj /usr/share/man/man8/ethtool.8.bz2 71a609e8a269cc9dcc0e813e77675ab6
1241002049
prometheus ethtool-6 #

Based on this, it looks like portage internally records the files
which get installed.and then can retrieve this information later
(qfile might want this information, --unmerge might want it...etc.).
Is this the correct way to understand how portage maintains sanity?

Thanks!

--
Matt



[gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Marco
Hi all,

I am new to gentoo and so far I really like it. But now, I am running
out of disk space on my root partition (10 GB), although I have a
rather small system with fluxbox (no KDE, GNOME,...). Thought gentoo
would not waste my resources that much. Now I am thinking about how to
resize my ext3 partitions. Bellow is the output of fdisk:

fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xbbc58b91

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   1 893 7168000   1c  Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA)
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda2   * 8935968407654407  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3   10622   1945870975488f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5   10622   13575237199727  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6   13575   13581   54819   83  Linux
/dev/sda7   13582   13831 2008093+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda8   13832   1507710008463+  83  Linux
/dev/sda9   15078   1945835182990   83  Linux

sda8 is my root partition and sda9 is my home partition where there is
plenty of space. Is there any safe way to resize with Linux tools? The
descriptions found on google did not help me a lot...

Thanks for your help!

--
Regards,
 Marco



[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions

2009-05-04 Thread James
Nitin Kanaskar nitinvk04 at gmail.com writes:


 Thank you so much Dale again - but i
 would try to follow links given by Neil -
 thank you Neil - and chk in the cvs repositories.
 Really appreciate your willingness to help.

Hello Nitin,

After reading your thread, you seem to be a bit
flexible in what you pursue as opportunities
for security analysis. Just a suggestion, but,
in lieu of pursuing a very 'well worn path' of
vulnerability assessments, might you be interested
in exploring an alternative?


If so, consider testing for security vulnerabilities
on a variety of embedded (Gentoo) linux devices/architectures?


You'll find embedded linux on a variety of hardware,
very rich in opportunities for exploits. There are
far fewer folks to test and fix problems, and many
of the builds are barely able   to support the 
arch, let alone robust security analysis. You 
could easily distinguish your self and provide a 
huge service to the gentoo community, not to mention
working with some very sharp minds who
inhabit this space.


For example, you could test the vulnerability
difference between the various C libraries,
with all else being the same. Or look at vulnerability
differences between soft-float and using builds
based on hardware, just to name a few. Certainly with
a quick survey of the space, you can come up
with lots of ideas that would yield lots of
uniquely interesting information, and blaze a new path.
Gentoo on ARM is a HUGE opportunity for distinction.


Here are a few links for your perusal:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/index.xml

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/

http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/

http://slonopotamus.org/gentoo-on-n8x0

http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/TinyGentoo

http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort

http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/target_arc...@template=faq#q_gnu_linux_long_long

http://martinwguy.co.uk/martin/tech/Maverick/

Just a suggestion

hth,
James





Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Platoali
On Do shanbe 14 Ordibehesht 1388 18:22:19 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 4 May 2009 12:56:05 +, Marco wrote:
  I am new to gentoo and so far I really like it. But now, I am running
  out of disk space on my root partition (10 GB), although I have a
  rather small system with fluxbox (no KDE, GNOME,...). Thought gentoo
  would not waste my resources that much. Now I am thinking about how to
  resize my ext3 partitions.

 I'd look to see what is filling up the root partition, 10GB should be more
 than enough.


Try to remount route on another directory and check which directory is using 
so much. I had a similar problem asked this a couple of month before on this 
mailing list. They gave this commands: 

#mount -o bind / /mnt/root
#du  -max-dep=1 

bests
 



Re: [gentoo-user] Canon PowerShot A400 Gentoo [SOLVED]

2009-05-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Alexander Pilipovsky
alexander.pilipov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks all, camera works well :)

 Short summary:

 Search your camera in supported camera list
 http://gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php
 Install photo manager gtkam, gphoto2 or F-Spot (by manual
 http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/F-Spot that is my favourite manager).
 Add your user to groups usb, haldaemon and plugdev (may be you will need
 group camera too).
 Start your photo manager and if it cannot see your camera, download and
 install the latest version of libgphoto from http://gphoto.org/ (2.4.5 now).

You may also be interested in media-libs/gphotofs which is in
sunrise overlay. It lets you mount a camera as filesystem (for those
of us who have cameras which don't support USB mass storage mode).



[gentoo-user] Which mobile (cell) phone manager?

2009-05-04 Thread Mick
Hi All,

There seems to be a long list of mobile phone managers out there:

kmobiletools
gnokii
wammu/gammu

There's probably more (gnome-phone-manager?) but I do not have Gnome on this 
machine.  I have a Nokia phone and I am not sure of the pros + cons of each 
application for managing it.

Have you used any of these and what would you recommend?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which mobile (cell) phone manager?

2009-05-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 There seems to be a long list of mobile phone managers out there:

 kmobiletools
 gnokii
 wammu/gammu

 There's probably more (gnome-phone-manager?) but I do not have Gnome on this
 machine.  I have a Nokia phone and I am not sure of the pros + cons of each
 application for managing it.

 Have you used any of these and what would you recommend?

I use Nokia PC Suite for Windows in a virtual machine. :)

But, really, I don't use any of them. The only real use I've seen from
them is easier entry of contacts, and I only have about 10 contacts so
it is not a problem for me to type them on the phone.

For backups, I use the phone's internal backup function to make a
backup onto the memory card.



Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Packages with Portage

2009-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 May 2009 14:11:02 Matt Causey wrote:
  Out of tree kernel modules are a maintenance pain in the ass, and cause
  severely non-obvious problems like this. Every time you upgrade your
  kernel, you must rebuild the out-of-tree modules, and you do that by
  re-running emerge madwifi-ng. This builds a new modules that matches
  the currently configured kernel (/usr/src/linux/) and puts the module in
  /lib/modules/version
 
  Upgrade your kernel a few times and you have various versions of modules
  floating around. Portage remembers the modules installed by the most
  recent emerge, but AFAIK forgets all the previous ones. This is expected
  of course - when you upgrade firefox-2 to firefox-3 you would not expect
  the system to remember the firefox-2 files (as they are supposed to not
  be there anymore)

 Your explanation is extremely helpful here.  Thanks!  As long as I
 know the expectation, I can plan for it when troubleshooting.  I can
 certainly see the 'pain in the ass' factor there.  :-)  I was
 originally chasing a panic caused by ath_pci - but now that I've
 looked more closely at the issue that you describe here, I see that I
 did manage to get 2 incompatible interdependent modules installed in
 the system...grrr.

Love gotta love gentoo - break it, you get to keep both pieces :-)

 I'll be doing some more-than-casual tinkering with
 ath_pci vs ath5k in the coming weeks, so I'll probably just plan not
 to use that ebuild for the present moment.  :-)  Althoughwould it
 be non-trivial for me to try and extend the ebuild to make it clean up
 after itself on unmerge?

Portage keeps it's house-keeping in /var/db/pkg with subdirectories in the 
form category/package-version. There's interesting stuff in there, like 
a file called CONTENTS. It has the files installed by the ebuild, plus their 
md5sums, and that's how portage knows what to rm when you unmerge.

man ebuild lists the functions you can override in ebuilds, including 
unmerge. It calls pkg_postrm (a simple bash function) so you could in theory 
insert a call to find /lib/modules to find all the modules in question and 
delete them. You'd have to think this through carefully though as the 
potential for destruction is vast...

 Along the same lines, how does the ebuild know what to remove on
 --unmerge?  For example I'm wandering around and looking at ebuilds:

 prometheus ethtool # pwd
 /usr/portage/sys-apps/ethtool
 prometheus ethtool # ls
 ChangeLog  Manifest  ethtool-6.ebuild  metadata.xml
 prometheus ethtool #

 I see nothing in that ebuild which describes the files that ethtool
 put on the system.  Yet an --unmerge removes the binaries and
 sourceinteresting.

Portage runs the ebuild in a restricted directory - 
/var/tmp/portage/category/package/work/ and all the built files end up 
there, in a directory structure that mirrors the root filesystem layout. 

man ebuild has all the gory details. Try this: run 
ebuild /usr/portage/sys-apps/ethtool-6.ebuild install
and examine /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/ethtool/work.

Note that you emerge a *package name* but ebuild an ebuild *file* (much the 
same way yum install and rpm -ivh do it). That command will run all the ebuild 
steps up to and including install, but the files are not yet on the lie 
filesystem. ebuild file merge does that, skipping all steps already 
completed. It then locates every file in the tmp directory and moves them onto 
the live filesystem, recording what it finds. This list is what goes in 
CONTENTS.

Simple, hey?

Virtually every tool out there which gives you information on installed 
packages (except eix, that also uses huge chunks of voodoo), looks in 
/var/db/pkg/, which explains why it's so slow - 1462 directories and 35847 
files on this box is a lot of stuff to stat and read

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Packages with Portage

2009-05-04 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Mon, 4 May 2009 13:11:02 +0100
Matt Causey matt.cau...@gmail.com wrote:

--snip--

 
 Along the same lines, how does the ebuild know what to remove on
 --unmerge?  For example I'm wandering around and looking at ebuilds:
 
 prometheus ethtool # pwd
 /usr/portage/sys-apps/ethtool
 prometheus ethtool # ls
 ChangeLog  Manifest  ethtool-6.ebuild  metadata.xml
 prometheus ethtool #
 
 I see nothing in that ebuild which describes the files that ethtool
 put on the system.  Yet an --unmerge removes the binaries and
 sourceinteresting.
 
 So I found a CONTENTS file:
 
 prometheus ethtool-6 # pwd
 /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/ethtool-6
 prometheus ethtool-6 # cat CONTENTS
 dir /usr
 dir /usr/sbin

--snip--


Another way to check which files are installed by a given package
and to which package a given file belongs.

emerge app-portage/portage-utils (if you haven't already)

Example:

~ $ qlist ethtool
/usr/share/man/man8/ethtool.8.bz2
/usr/share/doc/ethtool-6/AUTHORS.bz2
/usr/share/doc/ethtool-6/ChangeLog.bz2
/usr/share/doc/ethtool-6/NEWS.bz2
/usr/share/doc/ethtool-6/README.bz2
/usr/sbin/ethtool
~ $

~ $ qfile ethtool
sys-apps/ethtool (/usr/sbin/ethtool)
~ $

~ $ qlist nvidia-drivers | grep /lib/modules
/lib/modules/2.6.28-core2/video/nvidia.ko
~ $

HTH



-- 
Best regards,
Daniel



Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Marco listwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Mon, 4 May 2009 12:56:05 +, Marco wrote:

 [..]

 I'd look to see what is filling up the root partition, 10GB should be more
 than enough.

 Good tip! cd /usr/src/linux and make clean gave me back 2 GB.

Also unmerge old unneeded kernels and remove leftovers from old
kernels found in /usr/src and /lib/modules (or /lib64/modules)



[gentoo-user] Re: nanosleep broken on ~amd64?

2009-05-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

Arttu V. wrote:

walt wrote:

Could someone else compile the test and confirm that it returns 119 on
~amd64 instead of 0?


It returns 119 on an semi-ancient Athlon64 3200+ box here as well.

Could kernel HZ-settings affect the outcome? This box has 
CONFIG_HZ=250, but tomorrow I can try on another amd64 which runs a 
1000HZ kernel IIRC.


119 here on AMD64 with a not-so-ancient Core 2 Duo and a kernel timer of 
1000Hz (gentoo-sources-2.6.28-r5).


OK, compiling with gcc -m32 nanotest.c (-m32 compiles it as 32-bit on 
multilib Gentoo) returns 0.  Maybe a bug in glibc?





Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Marco
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Mon, 4 May 2009 12:56:05 +, Marco wrote:

[..]

 I'd look to see what is filling up the root partition, 10GB should be more
 than enough.

Good tip! cd /usr/src/linux and make clean gave me back 2 GB.



Re: [gentoo-user] nanosleep broken on ~amd64?

2009-05-04 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 03 May 2009 14:14:38 -0700
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could someone else compile the test and confirm that it returns 119 on
 ~amd64 instead of 0?

119, x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5420 @ 2.50GHz GenuineIntel

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Masood Ahmed
Marco listwo...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi all,

 I am new to gentoo and so far I really like it. But now, I am running
 out of disk space on my root partition (10 GB), although I have a
 rather small system with fluxbox (no KDE, GNOME,...). Thought gentoo
 would not waste my resources that much. Now I am thinking about how to
 resize my ext3 partitions. Bellow is the output of fdisk:

 fdisk -l

 Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0xbbc58b91

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sda1   1 893 7168000   1c  Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA)
 Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
 /dev/sda2   * 8935968407654407  HPFS/NTFS
 /dev/sda3   10622   1945870975488f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
 /dev/sda5   10622   13575237199727  HPFS/NTFS
 /dev/sda6   13575   13581   54819   83  Linux
 /dev/sda7   13582   13831 2008093+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
 /dev/sda8   13832   1507710008463+  83  Linux
 /dev/sda9   15078   1945835182990   83  Linux

 sda8 is my root partition and sda9 is my home partition where there is
 plenty of space. Is there any safe way to resize with Linux tools? The
 descriptions found on google did not help me a lot...

Try this article:

http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions

Regards,
Masood Ahmed

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 May 2009 16:57:06 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Marco listwo...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
  On Mon, 4 May 2009 12:56:05 +, Marco wrote:
 
  [..]
 
  I'd look to see what is filling up the root partition, 10GB should be
  more than enough.
 
  Good tip! cd /usr/src/linux and make clean gave me back 2 GB.

 Also unmerge old unneeded kernels and remove leftovers from old
 kernels found in /usr/src and /lib/modules (or /lib64/modules)

You'd be amazed how much junk collects in /var/log/portage over time

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Marco
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Andrew MacKenzie amack...@edespot.com wrote:
 +++ Marco [gentoo-user] [Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:56:05PM +]:
[...]
 Just to be sure you checked - Gentoo keeps temporary files in
 /var/tmp/portage/ (build temp location, sometimes things get left here) and
 /usr/portage/distfiles/ (download location).

 /usr/portage/distfiles can get pretty large over time.

I cleaned this directory frequently, but still running low on disk space...

--
Regards,
 Marco



Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Andrew MacKenzie
+++ Marco [gentoo-user] [Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:56:05PM +]:
 I am new to gentoo and so far I really like it. But now, I am running
 out of disk space on my root partition (10 GB), although I have a
 rather small system with fluxbox (no KDE, GNOME,...). Thought gentoo
 would not waste my resources that much. Now I am thinking about how to
 resize my ext3 partitions. Bellow is the output of fdisk:
Just to be sure you checked - Gentoo keeps temporary files in
/var/tmp/portage/ (build temp location, sometimes things get left here) and
/usr/portage/distfiles/ (download location).

/usr/portage/distfiles can get pretty large over time.

-- 
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// GPG public key: http://www.edespot.com/~amackenz/public.key
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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Philipp Riegger

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 17:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   I'd look to see what is filling up the root partition, 10GB should be
   more than enough.
  
   Good tip! cd /usr/src/linux and make clean gave me back 2 GB.
 
  Also unmerge old unneeded kernels and remove leftovers from old
  kernels found in /usr/src and /lib/modules (or /lib64/modules)
 
 You'd be amazed how much junk collects in /var/log/portage over time

Or in /var/log. Logrotate helps there and /var/log/portage can be
cleaned up by a script that compresses everything older than 1 day (the
test helps not to disturb a running portage or get ugly split logs).

Philipp




Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread John covici
on Monday 05/04/2009 Philipp Riegger(li...@anderedomain.de) wrote
  
  On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 17:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 I'd look to see what is filling up the root partition, 10GB should be
 more than enough.

 Good tip! cd /usr/src/linux and make clean gave me back 2 GB.
   
Also unmerge old unneeded kernels and remove leftovers from old
kernels found in /usr/src and /lib/modules (or /lib64/modules)
   
   You'd be amazed how much junk collects in /var/log/portage over time
  
  Or in /var/log. Logrotate helps there and /var/log/portage can be
  cleaned up by a script that compresses everything older than 1 day (the
  test helps not to disturb a running portage or get ugly split logs).

What I would really like to do is get rid of everything except the
most recent compile of each program in /var/log/portage -- anyone have a script 
to do that?
-- 
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How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Which mobile (cell) phone manager?

2009-05-04 Thread Mick
On Monday 04 May 2009, Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  There seems to be a long list of mobile phone managers out there:
 
  kmobiletools
  gnokii
  wammu/gammu
 
  There's probably more (gnome-phone-manager?) but I do not have Gnome on
  this machine.  I have a Nokia phone and I am not sure of the pros + cons
  of each application for managing it.
 
  Have you used any of these and what would you recommend?

 I use Nokia PC Suite for Windows in a virtual machine. :)

 But, really, I don't use any of them. The only real use I've seen from
 them is easier entry of contacts, and I only have about 10 contacts so
 it is not a problem for me to type them on the phone.

 For backups, I use the phone's internal backup function to make a
 backup onto the memory card.

Thanks Paul, I use an old Nokia 6021 which does not have a memory card.  I 
have more than 10 contacts but I do not need to edit these often.  However, I 
find typing text messages on the phone tiresome, compared with typing on the 
laptop.  So SMS functionality which these managers offer is a benefit for me.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 May 2009 12:56:05 +, Marco wrote:

 I am new to gentoo and so far I really like it. But now, I am running
 out of disk space on my root partition (10 GB), although I have a
 rather small system with fluxbox (no KDE, GNOME,...). Thought gentoo
 would not waste my resources that much. Now I am thinking about how to
 resize my ext3 partitions.

I'd look to see what is filling up the root partition, 10GB should be more
than enough.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Arttu V.
On 5/4/09, Marco listwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Andrew MacKenzie amack...@edespot.com
 wrote:
 +++ Marco [gentoo-user] [Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:56:05PM +]:
 [...]
 Just to be sure you checked - Gentoo keeps temporary files in
 /var/tmp/portage/ (build temp location, sometimes things get left here)
 and
 /usr/portage/distfiles/ (download location).

 /usr/portage/distfiles can get pretty large over time.

 I cleaned this directory frequently, but still running low on disk space...

I may have missed something of your configuration or partitions (did
you have a separate /usr?), but check old and useless kernel sources
from under /usr/src (and under /lib/modules if you've compiled and
installed modules).

Clean out old and unused ones. Compiled kernel sources directories can
be over 800 MB *each*. For example for my current /usr/src/linux
(which points to ./linux-2.6.28-gentoo-r5) du says 818MB. You don't
need too many of these to fill up a 10GB partition.

-- 
Arttu V.



Re: [gentoo-user] What's the deal with CAMERAS anyway?

2009-05-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Inspired by the other digicam thread I took a quick look at an older
 problem of mine, namely getting libgphoto2 to compile drivers for all
 cameras.

 Anyone got a clue why *not* setting CAMERAS won't build drivers for
 all cameras as claimed several times in the libgphoto2 ebuild?

src_configure() in the libgphoto2 ebuild looks like it handles the
none=all logic.



[gentoo-user] NX Tip

2009-05-04 Thread Paul Hartman
Hi,

A quick tip if anyone else out there uses NX. Lately I've been
experiencing slower and slower session negotiationtimes, and
eventually it go to the point where it would timeout during the
connection more often than not, and reattaching a disconnected session
would always fail. Well, I finally solved it. In my user directory on
the host machine (the box into which I am connecting), I found dozens
of session directories in my ~/.nx/ directory. I deleted everything
except for the config directory from ~/.nx/ and now my connections
happen instantly and reliably. I just thought I would pass it on in
case someone else has the same problem.

Thanks,
Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Mick
On Monday 04 May 2009, John covici wrote:
 on Monday 05/04/2009 Philipp Riegger(li...@anderedomain.de) wrote

You'd be amazed how much junk collects in /var/log/portage over time
  
   Or in /var/log. Logrotate helps there and /var/log/portage can be
   cleaned up by a script that compresses everything older than 1 day (the
   test helps not to disturb a running portage or get ugly split logs).

 What I would really like to do is get rid of everything except the
 most recent compile of each program in /var/log/portage -- anyone have a
 script to do that?

Check man emerge and read (carefully) --clean --depclean and --prune options.  
Use any of these judiciously because you can easily hose your box (if you get 
rid of your compiler for example).
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 4. Mai 2009 16:02:39 schrieb Platoali:

 Try to remount route on another directory and check which directory is
 using so much. I had a similar problem asked this a couple of month before
 on this mailing list. They gave this commands:

 #mount -o bind / /mnt/root
 #du  -max-dep=1

Or just forget about the useless bind-mount and add -x to the du command.

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread John covici
on Monday 05/04/2009 Mick(michaelkintz...@gmail.com) wrote
  On Monday 04 May 2009, John covici wrote:
   on Monday 05/04/2009 Philipp Riegger(li...@anderedomain.de) wrote
  
  You'd be amazed how much junk collects in /var/log/portage over time

 Or in /var/log. Logrotate helps there and /var/log/portage can be
 cleaned up by a script that compresses everything older than 1 day (the
 test helps not to disturb a running portage or get ugly split logs).
  
   What I would really like to do is get rid of everything except the
   most recent compile of each program in /var/log/portage -- anyone have a
   script to do that?
  
  Check man emerge and read (carefully) --clean --depclean and --prune 
  options.  
  Use any of these judiciously because you can easily hose your box (if you 
  get 
  rid of your compiler for example).
  -- 
  Regards,
  Mick

I was only talking about getting rid of log files in /var/log/portage
where it keeps a record of each build of every program.  Seems to me
only the most recent one is significant.

-- 
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How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] What's the deal with CAMERAS anyway?

2009-05-04 Thread Arttu V.
On 5/4/09, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone got a clue why *not* setting CAMERAS won't build drivers for
 all cameras as claimed several times in the libgphoto2 ebuild?

 src_configure() in the libgphoto2 ebuild looks like it handles the
 none=all logic.

That was the same part I glimpsed over earlier in wonder, and the
ebuild didn't really answer my question as it doesn't even touch the
CAMERAS variable (only the local lower case cameras and also
IUSE_CAMERAS).

But after a fair bit of grepping around portage's sources I have now
come up with a theory that satisfies my curiosity for now. I think the
problem is my poor brain not understanding the somewhat misleading
printout from emerge -p libgphoto2. It has a minus sign in front of
all CAMERAS drivers listed, so trying to be logical I assumed it
wouldn't emerge any of them.

emerge -p lirc does something similar with LIRC_DEVICES. It is another
example of these USE_EXPANDed (learned a new word of gentoo-eeze while
grepping :) ) variables, *does* show the string all amongst its list
of LIRC_DEVICES while the actual device driver names are also still
preceded by minuses.

But now I've found out that that's just due to all being an extra
option specifically listed in /usr/portage/desc/lirc_devices.desc.
/usr/portage/desc/cameras.desc doesn't have such an all line, so
emerge won't print all for CAMERAS, only all the drivers' names with
minuses in front. Ergo, my confusion follows from the premises?

Sorry about the confusion and thanks for the replies. But is this a
bug or a feature? Am I the only one who has fallen for this?

-- 
Arttu V.



[gentoo-user] 'buntu -- gentoo -- eeepc

2009-05-04 Thread maxim wexler

Hi group,

Using xubuntu on a usb stick to install gentoo on a eeepc, 4g, 900A. I've 
gotten as far as kernel config(Quick-install Guide - Kernel Configuration) but 
when I try to emerge gentoo-sources portage can't resolve any of the addresses 
and the process fails.

Does it have something to do with the previous section, Set your host name and 
domain name? I followed the model given:

hosts: 127.0.0.1 eeebox.at.eeeplace eeebox localhost

hostname: HOSTNAME=eeebox

BTW, it took 22mins for the portage snapshot to be unpacked, is that similar to 
anybody else's experience?

BTW2, I'm using dialup via a serial/usb cable to complete the job at home, 
whereas the stage3-i686-20090422 and portage-20090502 were downloaded over 
wireless at the Wifi-Cafe. Don't tell me the numbers must match exactly!

mw



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Re: [gentoo-user] Which mobile (cell) phone manager?

2009-05-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Monday 04 May 2009, Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  There seems to be a long list of mobile phone managers out there:
 
  kmobiletools
  gnokii
  wammu/gammu
 
  There's probably more (gnome-phone-manager?) but I do not have Gnome on
  this machine.  I have a Nokia phone and I am not sure of the pros + cons
  of each application for managing it.
 
  Have you used any of these and what would you recommend?

 I use Nokia PC Suite for Windows in a virtual machine. :)

 But, really, I don't use any of them. The only real use I've seen from
 them is easier entry of contacts, and I only have about 10 contacts so
 it is not a problem for me to type them on the phone.

 For backups, I use the phone's internal backup function to make a
 backup onto the memory card.

 Thanks Paul, I use an old Nokia 6021 which does not have a memory card.  I
 have more than 10 contacts but I do not need to edit these often.  However, I
 find typing text messages on the phone tiresome, compared with typing on the
 laptop.  So SMS functionality which these managers offer is a benefit for me.

Ah, okay. I have not tried it, but I know for sure Gnokii can do all
kinds of SMS functions from the PC, including sending, receiving, and
even pictures (multimedia messages). I believe you can make phone
calls and stuff, too.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions

2009-05-04 Thread Nitin Kanaskar
James...

I would definitely give this a thought - sounds
interesting and challenging.

Thanks a lot,
Nitin

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:56 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Nitin Kanaskar nitinvk04 at gmail.com writes:


 Thank you so much Dale again - but i
 would try to follow links given by Neil -
 thank you Neil - and chk in the cvs repositories.
 Really appreciate your willingness to help.

 Hello Nitin,

 After reading your thread, you seem to be a bit
 flexible in what you pursue as opportunities
 for security analysis. Just a suggestion, but,
 in lieu of pursuing a very 'well worn path' of
 vulnerability assessments, might you be interested
 in exploring an alternative?


 If so, consider testing for security vulnerabilities
 on a variety of embedded (Gentoo) linux devices/architectures?


 You'll find embedded linux on a variety of hardware,
 very rich in opportunities for exploits. There are
 far fewer folks to test and fix problems, and many
 of the builds are barely able   to support the
 arch, let alone robust security analysis. You
 could easily distinguish your self and provide a
 huge service to the gentoo community, not to mention
 working with some very sharp minds who
 inhabit this space.


 For example, you could test the vulnerability
 difference between the various C libraries,
 with all else being the same. Or look at vulnerability
 differences between soft-float and using builds
 based on hardware, just to name a few. Certainly with
 a quick survey of the space, you can come up
 with lots of ideas that would yield lots of
 uniquely interesting information, and blaze a new path.
 Gentoo on ARM is a HUGE opportunity for distinction.


 Here are a few links for your perusal:

 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/index.xml

 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/

 http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/

 http://slonopotamus.org/gentoo-on-n8x0

 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/TinyGentoo

 http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort

 http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/target_arc...@template=faq#q_gnu_linux_long_long

 http://martinwguy.co.uk/martin/tech/Maverick/

 Just a suggestion

 hth,
 James







Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 May 2009 18:31:06 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

  #mount -o bind / /mnt/root
  #du  -max-dep=1  
 
 Or just forget about the useless bind-mount and add -x to the du
 command.

That won't pick up space wasted by files occupying space in directories
that are used as mount points.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] 'buntu -- gentoo -- eeepc

2009-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 May 2009 10:26:58 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote:

 Using xubuntu on a usb stick to install gentoo on a eeepc, 4g, 900A.
 I've gotten as far as kernel config(Quick-install Guide - Kernel
 Configuration) but when I try to emerge gentoo-sources portage can't
 resolve any of the addresses and the process fails.

Slightly off the point, but I use tuxonice-sources on my Eee. It's
gentoo-sources with better suspend.

 BTW2, I'm using dialup via a serial/usb cable to complete the job at
 home,

Does the dialup work at all. Can you ping any of the gentoo mirrors? Did
mirrorselect work?


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 May 2009 11:54:18 -0400, John covici wrote:

 What I would really like to do is get rid of everything except the
 most recent compile of each program in /var/log/portage -- anyone have
 a script to do that?

Why not delete everything over a week or two old? Once the package is
installed and working, you don't need the elog any more.


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Re: [gentoo-user] 'buntu -- gentoo -- eeepc

2009-05-04 Thread Masood Ahmed
maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com writes:

 Hi group,

 Using xubuntu on a usb stick to install gentoo on a eeepc, 4g,
 900A. I've gotten as far as kernel config(Quick-install Guide -
 Kernel Configuration) but when I try to emerge gentoo-sources portage
 can't resolve any of the addresses and the process fails.

Can you browse from your xubuntu? Looks like you are not connected to
internet. If you are able to browse from xubuntu, then copy the
/etc/resolv.conf file from xubuntu to gentoo partition:

cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf

 Does it have something to do with the previous section, Set your host
 name and domain name? I followed the model given:

 hosts: 127.0.0.1 eeebox.at.eeeplace eeebox localhost

 hostname: HOSTNAME=eeebox

Nope. Nothing to do with this.

 BTW, it took 22mins for the portage snapshot to be unpacked, is that
 similar to anybody else's experience?

22 mins is very long time. Generally stage3 tarball should take longer
than portage, probably have to do with the verbose flag of tar command
(it slows the process when using a slow terminal).

 BTW2, I'm using dialup via a serial/usb cable to complete the job at
 home, whereas the stage3-i686-20090422 and portage-20090502 were
 downloaded over wireless at the Wifi-Cafe. Don't tell me the numbers
 must match exactly!

No the numbers don't matter.

Regards,
Masood Ahmed

-- 
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-- (Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms)



[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] unable to login to user account or do su - username

2009-05-04 Thread Valmor de Almeida

Alan McKinnon wrote:

experiment to see if it's the new hashes that are doing it. Find an account 
that can sudo to root on the affected machines and examine the shadow file. 
See what kind of hashes the affected accounts are using. md5 is 34 characters 
long and sha512 is 98 in this format:


$x$salt$hash
x is 1 for md5 and 6 for sha512. salt is 8 characters for both


Thanks for spending time with this. After looking at the shadow file, I 
have accounts with both md5 and sha512. In particular affected accounts 
that have md5 and sha512.


I looked closely at the .bashrc (used echo made to here marks to 
follow the login sequence) of the bad accounts and they were all 
sourcing a script from a third-party package that went bad after the OS 
update. Luckily this was not in all accounts and specially not in the 
root account. Otherwise I would have been locked outside the machine. 
After getting rid of that line in the users .bashrc all returned to normal.


One more thing to do was to uncomment the line

PrintMotd no
PrintLastLog no

in /etc/sshd_config  to avoid the double motd/last log messages upon 
login.I guess after the portage update, pam is now printing that.




Here's mine which works:

authinclude system-auth
account include system-auth
passwordinclude system-auth
session include system-auth

And you did confirm that sudo checks for wheel group membership, and that you 
are still in this group?




This is exactly like mine.

Thanks for all the help.

--
Valmor



Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 4. Mai 2009 19:47:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
 On Mon, 4 May 2009 18:31:06 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
   #mount -o bind / /mnt/root
   #du  -max-dep=1
 
  Or just forget about the useless bind-mount and add -x to the du
  command.

 That won't pick up space wasted by files occupying space in directories
 that are used as mount points.

How often does that happen?

Bye...

Dirk


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[gentoo-user] Gpodder doesn't start

2009-05-04 Thread Jake Todd
I'm having a problem getting gpodder to start, whenever I try to start it from
a terminal (yes, I'm in X) I get this error:

[~]% gpodder
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/gpodder, line 185, in module
sys.exit( main())
  File /usr/bin/gpodder, line 140, in main
from gpodder import console
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gpodder/console.py, line 20, in
module from gpodder import util
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gpodder/util.py, line 35, in module
import gtk
ImportError: No module named gtk

I have pygtk installed, along with the other dependencies that gpodder needs
(afaik).

Anyone else have this problem, or know what's wrong?



[gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?

2009-05-04 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
instructions for a 6200-based card?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

   If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Gpodder doesn't start

2009-05-04 Thread Saphirus Sage
Jake Todd wrote:
 I'm having a problem getting gpodder to start, whenever I try to start it from
 a terminal (yes, I'm in X) I get this error:

 [~]% gpodder
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/gpodder, line 185, in module
 sys.exit( main())
   File /usr/bin/gpodder, line 140, in main
 from gpodder import console
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gpodder/console.py, line 20, in
 module from gpodder import util
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gpodder/util.py, line 35, in 
 module
 import gtk
 ImportError: No module named gtk

 I have pygtk installed, along with the other dependencies that gpodder needs
 (afaik).

 Anyone else have this problem, or know what's wrong?

   
I had a similar problem when I upgraded to python2.6. Consider running
python-updater as root, as this will go through which python packages
need updating. At least, that's what it looks like to me.



[gentoo-user] emacs vs. gnome and xorg-1.5.3

2009-05-04 Thread David Relson
G'day,

I'm now running xorg-1.5.3 and emacs no longer works!  I've got
emacs-22.3.1 installed.  Normally I can start it from the Gnome start
menu or from a gnome terminal.  Now it seems that nothing happens when
I start it from the start menu.  When I start it from a gnome terminal,
emacs reports No fonts match '8x13'.  Anybody know how to fix this?

Thanks.

David



Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?

2009-05-04 Thread Brandon Vargo
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
 instructions for a 6200-based card?
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
 
If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
 for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?

I have the PCI version of the 6200, and I can confirm that 180.29
(stable for my arch) work great as well as the vesa framebuffer. I had
problems with the uvesa framebuffer a few kernels back, and never got it
to work, though I haven't tried since.

The rest of the nvidia guide looks good, though I do not use the same
options as the guide for my xorg.conf configuration. For example, I've
never had to set the VideoRam option in the device section, and set
things such as NoLogo, RenderAccel, etc in the screen section. Take a
look at [1] for all the options. That's the amd64 version, though it
should be similar if not the same for other architectures.

I don't use hal, so I cannot comment on that.

I would recommend using the nvidia-xconfig utility to configure another
xorg.conf once you get a basic X display running. It works pretty well,
particularly regarding 3D settings and multiple monitors, so it's a good
starting point from which to customize.

[1]:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/README/appendix-b.html

Regards,

Brandon Vargo




Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?

2009-05-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Brandon Vargo brandon.va...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
    Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
 instructions for a 6200-based card?

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

    If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
 for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?

 I have the PCI version of the 6200, and I can confirm that 180.29
 (stable for my arch) work great as well as the vesa framebuffer. I had
 problems with the uvesa framebuffer a few kernels back, and never got it
 to work, though I haven't tried since.

 The rest of the nvidia guide looks good, though I do not use the same
 options as the guide for my xorg.conf configuration. For example, I've
 never had to set the VideoRam option in the device section, and set
 things such as NoLogo, RenderAccel, etc in the screen section. Take a
 look at [1] for all the options. That's the amd64 version, though it
 should be similar if not the same for other architectures.

 I don't use hal, so I cannot comment on that.

 I would recommend using the nvidia-xconfig utility to configure another
 xorg.conf once you get a basic X display running. It works pretty well,
 particularly regarding 3D settings and multiple monitors, so it's a good
 starting point from which to customize.

 [1]:
 http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/README/appendix-b.html

 Regards,

 Brandon Vargo

Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
things set up right yet.

I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.

1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?

2) I used to have /dev/agpgart and framebuffer suppport as modular but
this setup doc seemed to go with built-in so I switched to that. I do
have the Intel chipset AGP GART support as modular and it does load
OK. Not sure if I should use that or NVidia's?

No problems getting the card up and running. Now it's a matter of
figuring out how to do it right. I am using hald but it wouldn't load
the nvidia driver automatically, opting for the nv driver. Do you have
that problem? Should I put it in modules.autoload?

Again, thanks for the pointers.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 Partition

2009-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 May 2009 22:12:17 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

  That won't pick up space wasted by files occupying space in
  directories that are used as mount points.  
 
 How often does that happen?

Not very often, but it happens in a significant proportion of the times
the root partition fills up, particularly hen running a small root. All
it needs is for an NFS mount to fail unnoticed when you boot.


-- 
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before it crashes.
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Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?

2009-05-04 Thread Brandon Vargo
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 15:24 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
 glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
 things set up right yet.
 
 I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
 
 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
 document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
 in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?

I do not have direct rendering enabled in my kernel, and I have never
heard of it being needed for nvidia cards. The nvidia kernel module
takes care of that as far as I know.

 2) I used to have /dev/agpgart and framebuffer suppport as modular but
 this setup doc seemed to go with built-in so I switched to that. I do
 have the Intel chipset AGP GART support as modular and it does load
 OK. Not sure if I should use that or NVidia's?

I have always compiled the framebuffer support into the kernel so that I
can use it for the console when the system starts booting, before any
modules are loaded. I've never tried to compile it as a module.
Regardless, if the module is going to be loaded anyways every time you
boot, and you don't have any special options to pass to the module, it's
usually best to compile into the kernel.

I'm not familiar with AGP, as my system does not support it, nor have I
ever used Intel graphics in conjunction with any other graphics chips,
sorry.

 No problems getting the card up and running. Now it's a matter of
 figuring out how to do it right. I am using hald but it wouldn't load
 the nvidia driver automatically, opting for the nv driver. Do you have
 that problem? Should I put it in modules.autoload?

I had this problem with a NVidia 9600 GSO in a machine I was setting up
as part of a computational cluster when trying to use X's
autoconfiguration (no xorg.conf at all). X would try to load the nv
driver, even though I had not even compiled it. Creating a simple
xorg.conf and specifying the nvidia driver in a device section loaded
the nvidia driver fine. modules.autoload should not be necessary. The
nvidia module should be automatically loaded when X starts with the
nvidia driver.

Regards,

Brandon Vargo




Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?

2009-05-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Brandon Vargo brandon.va...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
  Hi,
 Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
  instructions for a 6200-based card?
 
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
 
 If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
  for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?
 
  I have the PCI version of the 6200, and I can confirm that 180.29
  (stable for my arch) work great as well as the vesa framebuffer. I had
  problems with the uvesa framebuffer a few kernels back, and never got it
  to work, though I haven't tried since.
 
  The rest of the nvidia guide looks good, though I do not use the same
  options as the guide for my xorg.conf configuration. For example, I've
  never had to set the VideoRam option in the device section, and set
  things such as NoLogo, RenderAccel, etc in the screen section. Take a
  look at [1] for all the options. That's the amd64 version, though it
  should be similar if not the same for other architectures.
 
  I don't use hal, so I cannot comment on that.
 
  I would recommend using the nvidia-xconfig utility to configure another
  xorg.conf once you get a basic X display running. It works pretty well,
  particularly regarding 3D settings and multiple monitors, so it's a good
  starting point from which to customize.
 
  [1]:
  http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/README/appendix
 -b.html
 
  Regards,
 
  Brandon Vargo

 Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
 glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
 things set up right yet.

 I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.

 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
 document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
 in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?

no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.


 2) I used to have /dev/agpgart and framebuffer suppport as modular but
 this setup doc seemed to go with built-in so I switched to that. I do
 have the Intel chipset AGP GART support as modular and it does load
 OK. Not sure if I should use that or NVidia's?

no, you should use the kernel agpgart. Nvagp is a remnant from former times 
when there were bugs with certain chipsets and agpgart versions. Times long 
gone. Even nvidia devs tell you on nvnews to use agpgart and only switch to 
nvagp if that really does not work.


 No problems getting the card up and running. Now it's a matter of
 figuring out how to do it right. I am using hald but it wouldn't load
 the nvidia driver automatically, opting for the nv driver. Do you have
 that problem? Should I put it in modules.autoload?

no. Just put the nvidia module in xorg.conf. Also make sure you set the right 
opengl version with eselect. At the end don't forget that the 6200 is a very 
slow card.

glxinfo and nvidia-settings can help you detect problems.




Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?

2009-05-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Brandon Vargo brandon.va...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
  Hi,
     Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
  instructions for a 6200-based card?
 
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
 
     If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
  for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?
 
  I have the PCI version of the 6200, and I can confirm that 180.29
  (stable for my arch) work great as well as the vesa framebuffer. I had
  problems with the uvesa framebuffer a few kernels back, and never got it
  to work, though I haven't tried since.
 
  The rest of the nvidia guide looks good, though I do not use the same
  options as the guide for my xorg.conf configuration. For example, I've
  never had to set the VideoRam option in the device section, and set
  things such as NoLogo, RenderAccel, etc in the screen section. Take a
  look at [1] for all the options. That's the amd64 version, though it
  should be similar if not the same for other architectures.
 
  I don't use hal, so I cannot comment on that.
 
  I would recommend using the nvidia-xconfig utility to configure another
  xorg.conf once you get a basic X display running. It works pretty well,
  particularly regarding 3D settings and multiple monitors, so it's a good
  starting point from which to customize.
 
  [1]:
  http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/README/appendix
 -b.html
 
  Regards,
 
  Brandon Vargo

 Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
 glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
 things set up right yet.

 I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.

 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
 document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
 in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?

 no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.

Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo
| grep direct.

Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.



 2) I used to have /dev/agpgart and framebuffer suppport as modular but
 this setup doc seemed to go with built-in so I switched to that. I do
 have the Intel chipset AGP GART support as modular and it does load
 OK. Not sure if I should use that or NVidia's?

 no, you should use the kernel agpgart. Nvagp is a remnant from former times
 when there were bugs with certain chipsets and agpgart versions. Times long
 gone. Even nvidia devs tell you on nvnews to use agpgart and only switch to
 nvagp if that really does not work.


 No problems getting the card up and running. Now it's a matter of
 figuring out how to do it right. I am using hald but it wouldn't load
 the nvidia driver automatically, opting for the nv driver. Do you have
 that problem? Should I put it in modules.autoload?

 no. Just put the nvidia module in xorg.conf. Also make sure you set the right
 opengl version with eselect. At the end don't forget that the 6200 is a very
 slow card.

Very slow? Compared to a 9600? Yes. Compared to a Riva? No.

It's all relative. I just require it to work and play MythTV for my
wife. Nothing more.


 glxinfo and nvidia-settings can help you detect problems.


emerge word going on now. I'll try out nvidia-settings soon.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?

2009-05-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann

 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
  On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Brandon Vargo brandon.va...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
   On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
   Hi,
  Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
   instructions for a 6200-based card?
  
   http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
  
  If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
   for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?
  
   I have the PCI version of the 6200, and I can confirm that 180.29
   (stable for my arch) work great as well as the vesa framebuffer. I had
   problems with the uvesa framebuffer a few kernels back, and never got
   it to work, though I haven't tried since.
  
   The rest of the nvidia guide looks good, though I do not use the same
   options as the guide for my xorg.conf configuration. For example, I've
   never had to set the VideoRam option in the device section, and set
   things such as NoLogo, RenderAccel, etc in the screen section. Take a
   look at [1] for all the options. That's the amd64 version, though it
   should be similar if not the same for other architectures.
  
   I don't use hal, so I cannot comment on that.
  
   I would recommend using the nvidia-xconfig utility to configure
   another xorg.conf once you get a basic X display running. It works
   pretty well, particularly regarding 3D settings and multiple monitors,
   so it's a good starting point from which to customize.
  
   [1]:
   http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/README/appen
  dix -b.html
  
   Regards,
  
   Brandon Vargo
 
  Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
  glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
  things set up right yet.
 
  I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
 
  1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
  document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
  in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?
 
  no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.

 Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo

 | grep direct.

 Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
 inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.

you need to have consolekit running before X starts to have working direct 
rendering.




Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?

2009-05-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
SNIP
  Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
  glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
  things set up right yet.
 
  I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
 
  1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
  document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
  in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?
 
  no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.

 Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo

 | grep direct.

 Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
 inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.

 you need to have consolekit running before X starts to have working direct
 rendering.


The Gentoo page I am following makes no mention of 'consolekit':

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

It is installed but it's not set in rc-update to run at all. Should
this be boot or default?

dragonfly ~ # eix -I consolekit
[I] sys-auth/consolekit
 Available versions:  0.2.3 0.2.10 ~0.2.10-r1 ~0.3.0 ~0.3.0-r1
{debug doc pam policykit}
 Installed versions:  0.2.10(02:17:12 PM 04/20/2009)(pam -debug)
 Homepage:http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit
 Description: Framework for defining and tracking users,
login sessions and seats.

dragonfly ~ #

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?

2009-05-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann

 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:

 SNIP

   Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
   glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
   things set up right yet.
  
   I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
  
   1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
   document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
   in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?
  
   no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.
 
  Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo
 
  | grep direct.
 
  Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
  inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.
 
  you need to have consolekit running before X starts to have working
  direct rendering.

 The Gentoo page I am following makes no mention of 'consolekit':

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

 It is installed but it's not set in rc-update to run at all. Should
 this be boot or default?

 dragonfly ~ # eix -I consolekit
 [I] sys-auth/consolekit
  Available versions:  0.2.3 0.2.10 ~0.2.10-r1 ~0.3.0 ~0.3.0-r1
 {debug doc pam policykit}
  Installed versions:  0.2.10(02:17:12 PM 04/20/2009)(pam -debug)
  Homepage:   
 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit Description:
 Framework for defining and tracking users, login sessions and seats.

 dragonfly ~ #

 Thanks,
 Mark

default. And it is a recent development.




Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?

2009-05-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann

 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:

 SNIP

   Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
   glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
   things set up right yet.
  
   I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
  
   1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
   document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
   in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?
  
   no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.
 
  Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo
 
  | grep direct.
 
  Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
  inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.
 
  you need to have consolekit running before X starts to have working
  direct rendering.

 The Gentoo page I am following makes no mention of 'consolekit':

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

 It is installed but it's not set in rc-update to run at all. Should
 this be boot or default?

 dragonfly ~ # eix -I consolekit
 [I] sys-auth/consolekit
      Available versions:  0.2.3 0.2.10 ~0.2.10-r1 ~0.3.0 ~0.3.0-r1
 {debug doc pam policykit}
      Installed versions:  0.2.10(02:17:12 PM 04/20/2009)(pam -debug)
      Homepage:
 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit Description:
 Framework for defining and tracking users, login sessions and seats.

 dragonfly ~ #

 Thanks,
 Mark

 default. And it is a recent development.


Thanks. glxgears now does 2500FPS instead of 230 so that's a nice improvement.

MythTV once again works after the Intel driver got messed up forcing
me to switch to a newer card.

WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) once again high after a 3 week low point
in her years on Gentoo.

I appreciate your help,
Mark



[gentoo-user] OpenOffice 3.0.0 with dead keys

2009-05-04 Thread Jim Cunning
I´m trying to get OpenOffice 3.0.0 to recognize and enter French accented 
characters (e.g., ´   + e or ^ + a , etc.) I´ve set up KDE keyboard layouts 
and can get the proper characters displayed on console, xterm, kmail and 
other windows, but the dead key combinations in OpenOffice are simply 
dead--no characters produced at all.  When switching back to the US layout 
without dead keys, the same key presses to OpenOffice produce two characters, 
as one would expect.

I do this all the time with OpenOffice on my laptop with openSUSE 10.3.  Is 
there something I´ve not setup correctly on my gentoo system?
-- 
Jim


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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice 3.0.0 with dead keys

2009-05-04 Thread Saphirus Sage
Jim Cunning wrote:
 I´m trying to get OpenOffice 3.0.0 to recognize and enter French accented 
 characters (e.g., ´   + e or ^ + a , etc.) I´ve set up KDE keyboard layouts 
 and can get the proper characters displayed on console, xterm, kmail and 
 other windows, but the dead key combinations in OpenOffice are simply 
 dead--no characters produced at all.  When switching back to the US layout 
 without dead keys, the same key presses to OpenOffice produce two characters, 
 as one would expect.

 I do this all the time with OpenOffice on my laptop with openSUSE 10.3.  Is 
 there something I´ve not setup correctly on my gentoo system?
   
Did you remember to compile OpenOffice with LINGUAS=fr? May be
something to consider adding to your make.conf to get around
language/localization issues.



Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice 3.0.0 with dead keys

2009-05-04 Thread Saphirus Sage
Jim Cunning wrote:
 I´m trying to get OpenOffice 3.0.0 to recognize and enter French accented 
 characters (e.g., ´   + e or ^ + a , etc.) I´ve set up KDE keyboard layouts 
 and can get the proper characters displayed on console, xterm, kmail and 
 other windows, but the dead key combinations in OpenOffice are simply 
 dead--no characters produced at all.  When switching back to the US layout 
 without dead keys, the same key presses to OpenOffice produce two characters, 
 as one would expect.

 I do this all the time with OpenOffice on my laptop with openSUSE 10.3.  Is 
 there something I´ve not setup correctly on my gentoo system?
   
(Resending, due to SMTP failure notice)

Did you remember to compile OpenOffice with LINGUAS=fr? May be
something to consider adding to your make.conf to get around
language/localization issues.





Re: [gentoo-user] 'buntu -- gentoo -- eeepcFIXED

2009-05-04 Thread maxim wexler

 
 Does the dialup work at all. Can you ping any of the gentoo
 mirrors? Did
 mirrorselect work?

emerge mirrorselect is further down the page under Last configuration 
touches.  Which is a puzzlement. Before failing portage tried connecting to a 
long list of sites.
How did portage know where to look? make.conf has only the CFLAGS and CHOST 
lines. Nothing about where to look for files.
 

Yeah, the weird thing is I could download stuff onto the Desktop but not emerge 
or even wget from the chrooted environment.

So I shut everything down and rebooted. The only thing I did different this 
time was to neglect to set up or start ssh. Mounted the drives, chrooted and 
emerged gentoo-sources. Worked fine.

BTW, I followed the advice on the eeepc forum not to install a swap partition. 
I wonder if that is why the portage tarball took so long to unpack. 

IIRC tuxonice's wifi wouldn't work so I used xubuntu, wifi starts up 
automaticamente on this model.

mw


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