Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Dale
Jason Weisberger wrote: Couple of things to note: The geforce 210 is not even powerful enough to do 1080p blueray playback. Might want to consider a minor upgrade if you are going to do anything entertainment-wise on this system. Consider doing the ddr 3 system for longevity. If you do en

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: > Even my rig - hotter, doesn't reach 300W when I artificially torture the > system. Normal 'max' load is in 200W range. An normal desktop? Under 100. > OK -- just to find out the truth I've attached a kill-a-watt to my current workstation whic

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:18 on Friday 26 November 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: > On Friday 26 November 2010 14:32:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > One could ask the question "where did the first assembler come from?" > > > > Just as the first OSes and compilers were written in ass

Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg - blocking portage-2.1.9.24

2010-11-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 07:47 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Joseph did opine thusly: > It seems to me new portage-2.1.9.24 doesn't like quickpkg, it complains: > > Installing (1 of 1) sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.24 > * This package will overwrite one or more files that may belong to other >

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 08:39 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Hung Dang did opine thusly: > Hi all, > > I am trying to get E17 on my computer using this guide > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17. I have also added source > /var/lib/layman/make.conf to make.conf and update PORTDIR_OVERLAY=

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Adam Carter
> > Even my rig - hotter, doesn't reach 300W when I artificially torture the > > system. Normal 'max' load is in 200W range. An normal desktop? Under 100. > > > > OK -- just to find out the truth I've attached a kill-a-watt to my current > workstation which is ~4yrs old w/ slow cpu and ancient vide

Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg - blocking portage-2.1.9.24

2010-11-26 Thread Adam Carter
> * package sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.24 NOT merged > * > * Detected file collision(s): > * > * /usr/bin/quickpkg > > Should I remove the quickpkg to install new portage or comment-out > "collision-protect" in make.conf? > > I just ran the same update (and it reported it was going ahead wit

[gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-26 Thread Hung Dang
Hi all, I am trying to get E17 on my computer using this guide http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17. I have also added source /var/lib/layman/make.conf to make.conf and update PORTDIR_OVERLAY="" to /var/lib/layman/make.conf. After that I try to emerge elightenment and can only get x11-wm/enlightenme

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Matthew Marlowe
Volker, > Even my rig - hotter, doesn't reach 300W when I artificially torture the > system. Normal 'max' load is in 200W range. An normal desktop? Under 100. > OK -- just to find out the truth I've attached a kill-a-watt to my current workstation which is ~4yrs old w/ slow cpu and ancient vide

[gentoo-user] quickpkg - blocking portage-2.1.9.24

2010-11-26 Thread Joseph
It seems to me new portage-2.1.9.24 doesn't like quickpkg, it complains: Installing (1 of 1) sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.24 * This package will overwrite one or more files that may belong to other * packages (see list below). You can use a command such as `portageq * owners / ` to identify the inst

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 26 November 2010, Matthew Marlowe wrote: > Dale, > > One thing to keep in mind w/ power supplies is that you don't want to run > them normally at more than X% of peak capacity -- most of them have a > sweet spot in load where they are rated for efficiency and noise. Choose > your power

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 26 November 2010, Dale wrote: > I'm planning to build a new rig. My current rig is about 7 or 8 years > old now and it needs to be updated. Current rig is AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs > of ram and a Abit NF7 v2.0 mobo. Couple hard drives too. > > New build #1 with links and all. > > http://ww

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Jason Weisberger
Couple of things to note: The geforce 210 is not even powerful enough to do 1080p blueray playback. Might want to consider a minor upgrade if you are going to do anything entertainment-wise on this system. Consider doing the ddr 3 system for longevity. If you do end up getting the ddr 2 motherbo

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Matthew Marlowe
Dale, One thing to keep in mind w/ power supplies is that you don't want to run them normally at more than X% of peak capacity -- most of them have a sweet spot in load where they are rated for efficiency and noise. Choose your power supply based on that load % rather than max required wattage

[gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Dale
I'm planning to build a new rig. My current rig is about 7 or 8 years old now and it needs to be updated. Current rig is AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs of ram and a Abit NF7 v2.0 mobo. Couple hard drives too. New build #1 with links and all. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1689

[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia and i/o problem

2010-11-26 Thread walt
On 11/26/2010 09:50 AM, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: I run the compilation without X, and try to acces over ssh. I can enter in machine, but so slowly. The system become unresponsive. If I stay the compilation process end, i can use the system again. Okay, that's not a 'freeze' (as I normally use th

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 25 November 2010 21:51:36 Renat Golubchyk wrote: > On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:01:51 + Mick > > wrote: > > On Tuesday 16 November 2010 22:26:28 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > Am 2010-11-16 22:24, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > > > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:12 on Tuesday 16 Nove

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia and i/o problem

2010-11-26 Thread Dale
Zhu Sha Zang wrote: I run the compilation without X, and try to acces over ssh. I can enter in machine, but so slowly. The system become unresponsive. If I stay the compilation process end, i can use the system again. Normally, i've compiled this sources into the night, when off from work.

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-l10n-4.4.5 and en_GB?

2010-11-26 Thread Mick
On Friday 26 November 2010 10:54:45 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 24 November 2010 21:10:38 Arttu V. wrote: > > Bug #343523 ? > > I thought not at first, but now I'm less sure. I'll wait for the patch by > Andreas Hüttel to work its way into portage. > > Meanwhile, just to make a bit of pr

Re: [gentoo-user] copy paste problem from any app other than Konsole to Konsole

2010-11-26 Thread Mick
On Friday 26 November 2010 11:27:47 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 25 November 2010 12:54:07 Coert Waagmeester wrote: > > Using ksh in konsole. > > Whenever I select something in any app apart from Konsole, > > and middle click paste it in Konsole, it does not paste exactly as it > > should. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia and i/o problem

2010-11-26 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
Em 25-11-2010 19:14, walt escreveu: > On 11/25/2010 06:55 AM, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: > > ... >> i try to compile some "nice" software like chromium, pyside or >> openoffice my > > system "freeze". I can't do anything like use keyboard, mouse or > switch betwenn > > windows. How can i find the motive t

[gentoo-user] Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-26 Thread Stroller
Hi there, As per subject, what's the best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity, please? Or perhaps a better question would be: what approaches are available? Presently my main Linux system is basically just a storage server with a *really slow* disk controller. I do all my web

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 26 November 2010 14:32:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: > One could ask the question "where did the first assembler come from?" > > Just as the first OSes and compilers were written in assembler to > bootstrap C, so the first assemblers were written in hex codes to > bootstrap the assembler. But

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread sam new
wow, you both did a good job , I asked lots of people and they did't say very clear, it suddenly enlightened me, thanks all. On 26 November 2010 22:32, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 16:09 on Friday 26 November 2010, Stroller > did > opine thusly: > > > On 26/11/2010, at

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:09 on Friday 26 November 2010, Stroller did opine thusly: > On 26/11/2010, at 6:07am, sam new wrote: > > Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use host > > client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc ...kernel some unity ... > > fro

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread Stroller
On 26/11/2010, at 6:07am, sam new wrote: > Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use host > client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc ...kernel some unity ... from > source ,but where the frist system come from ,does it build using the > Assembly language or machin

Re: [gentoo-user] usb write delay

2010-11-26 Thread David Relson
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:04:54 -0600 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:52 PM, David Relson > wrote: > > I'd like to reduce the time delay between a command or program's > > writing to a file on a flash drive and when ext2 actually writes > > the data to the drive.  How can I do this?

Re: [gentoo-user] usb write delay

2010-11-26 Thread David Relson
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:31:48 +0100 Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 23.11.2010 04:52, schrieb David Relson: > > I'd like to reduce the time delay between a command or program's > > writing to a file on a flash drive and when ext2 actually writes > > the data to the drive. How can I do this? > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-26 Thread sam new
thanks mick ,I am afraid that is not my meaning, it is not about how to install gentoo . where the frist system come from ,does it build using the > Assembly language or machine language? I mean just give you X86 hardware > and power , no OS, no livd cd . how to build On 26 November 2010 16:58,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-26 Thread sam new
thanks mick ,that not my meaning, it is not about how to install gentoo On 26 November 2010 16:58, Mick wrote: > On Friday 26 November 2010 06:07:58 sam new wrote: > > Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use > host > > client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc

Re: [gentoo-user] copy paste problem from any app other than Konsole to Konsole

2010-11-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 25 November 2010 12:54:07 Coert Waagmeester wrote: > Using ksh in konsole. > Whenever I select something in any app apart from Konsole, > and middle click paste it in Konsole, it does not paste exactly as it > should. > > I have attached a screenshot where I copy from Firefox to Konso

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-l10n-4.4.5 and en_GB?

2010-11-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 24 November 2010 21:10:38 Arttu V. wrote: > Bug #343523 ? I thought not at first, but now I'm less sure. I'll wait for the patch by Andreas Hüttel to work its way into portage. Meanwhile, just to make a bit of progress, I've compiled kde-l10n with LINGUAS="en". Oh, and setting -j

Re: [gentoo-user] 200-line patch to kernel => superkernel

2010-11-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2010-11-25 16:37, schrieb Florian Philipp: > Anyway, if you want my solution, here it is, although it's mostly > copy'n'paste from the original link: [...] > Hope this helps, > Florian Philipp Thanks a lot for that howto, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-26 Thread Mick
On Friday 26 November 2010 06:07:58 sam new wrote: > Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use host > client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc ...kernel some unity ... > from source ,but where the frist system come from ,does it build using the > Assembly language

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-26 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 11/25/10 22:51:36, Renat Golubchyk wrote: > On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:01:51 + Mick > wrote: > > On Tuesday 16 November 2010 22:26:28 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > Am 2010-11-16 22:24, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > > > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:12 on Tuesday 16 November > > > > 2010,