Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro
Am 12.11.2011 02:02, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:45:23 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: What happens when there is that one thing they need to do that needs root privileges? Do you give them the root password and let them do what they want, or do you make that one operation available to them? SETUID bit like /bin/ping or sudo itself? That being said, I'd also use sudo unless the usage is so frequent that the constant password typing becomes a pain. SETUID enables it for everyone, not just the user in question. You can set sudo to allow specified commands to be executed without a password. Well, you can limit execution to a single group. Some quick results from `find`: -rws--x--- 1 root messagebus 318656 23. Okt 10:44 /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper -rws--x--- 1 root squid 22824 2. Nov 20:26 /usr/libexec/squid/ncsa_auth -rws--x--- 1 root squid 18720 2. Nov 20:26 /usr/libexec/squid/pam_auth Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Another hardware thread
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:51:29 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: It's time for a new desktop, I'd rather the the money to Amazon or Ebuyer than the Inland Revenue. I'm currently running a Core2Duo system, but use AMD before that, so I have no real allegiances. I was thinking of something like an AMD 1100T 6 core CPU, the new Bulldozers are expensive and initial reports are not that promising, but an Intel that gives the same bang per buck would do. I'm thinking Gigabyte for motherboard, based on comments made here in similar threads (like the one Dale started a while ago). I need lots of SATA ports (fortunately, I bought a pair of 2TB drives a fortnight ago, just before the prices went ballistic). I'm not a gamer, but I want a system with plenty of grunt. Video performance is not critical, on board would suffice, except I need something with dual output to drive two monitors. Do any of the onboard jobbies do this or is a separate Nvidia still the best option? Thoughts would be welcome, and please feel free to start your own ATI vs Nvidia and AMD vs Intel flamewars. OK, I'd rather you didn't, but I'm not about to waste electrons asking for the impossible :) Using a 1090t which is one behind the 1100t. It was relatively cheap and performs excellently. Have had no problems running anything and compilation time seems to rocket through on gentoo. Much faster than previous dual core. -- John D Maunder
[gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files) ?
What is the *LIGHTEST* web server package you know for gentoo? I just want to serve the distfiles, so no CGI / PHP / whathaveyouscripting support is needed. Preferably, with logging so I can see which packages I missed, but not necessary. Rgds, -- FdS Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ • LOPSA Member #15248 • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files) ?
On Sat 12 Nov 2011 01:54:10 PM IST, Pandu Poluan wrote: What is the *LIGHTEST* web server package you know for gentoo? I just want to serve the distfiles, so no CGI / PHP / whathaveyouscripting support is needed. Preferably, with logging so I can see which packages I missed, but not necessary. Rgds, nginx. You can disable fastcgi/etc using use flags. -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files) ?
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 15:46, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Sat 12 Nov 2011 01:54:10 PM IST, Pandu Poluan wrote: What is the *LIGHTEST* web server package you know for gentoo? I just want to serve the distfiles, so no CGI / PHP / whathaveyouscripting support is needed. Preferably, with logging so I can see which packages I missed, but not necessary. Rgds, nginx. You can disable fastcgi/etc using use flags. What about www-servers/fnord ? Its website[1] claims that its binaries are less than 20 kB[2] [1] http://www.fefe.de/fnord/ [2] http://www.fefe.de/fnord/others.html Rgds, -- FdS Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ • LOPSA Member #15248 • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files) ?
Am 12.11.2011 10:01, schrieb Pandu Poluan: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 15:46, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Sat 12 Nov 2011 01:54:10 PM IST, Pandu Poluan wrote: What is the *LIGHTEST* web server package you know for gentoo? I just want to serve the distfiles, so no CGI / PHP / whathaveyouscripting support is needed. Preferably, with logging so I can see which packages I missed, but not necessary. Rgds, nginx. You can disable fastcgi/etc using use flags. What about www-servers/fnord ? Its website[1] claims that its binaries are less than 20 kB[2] [1] http://www.fefe.de/fnord/ [2] http://www.fefe.de/fnord/others.html Rgds, Talking about small: `/bin/busybox httpd` I goes without saying that this is not meant to be web-facing. Most things are explained in the --help output but the config file format is only explained in a source code comment. See below: httpd.conf has the following format: H:/serverroot # define the server root. It will override -h A:172.20. # Allow address from 172.20.0.0/16 A:10.0.0.0/25 # Allow any address from 10.0.0.0-10.0.0.127 A:10.0.0.0/255.255.255.128 # Allow any address that previous set A:127.0.0.1 # Allow local loopback connections D:* # Deny from other IP connections E404:/path/e404.html # /path/e404.html is the 404 (not found) error page I:index.html # Show index.html when a directory is requested P:/url:[http://]hostname[:port]/new/path # When /urlXX is requested, reverse proxy # it to http://hostname[:port]/new/pathXX /cgi-bin:foo:bar # Require user foo, pwd bar on urls starting with /cgi-bin/ /adm:admin:setup # Require user admin, pwd setup on urls starting with /adm/ adm:toor:PaSsWd # or user toor, pwd PaSsWd on urls starting with /adm/ .au:audio/basic # additional mime type for audio.au files *.php:/path/php # run xxx.php through an interpreter A/D may be as a/d or allow/deny - only first char matters. Deny/Allow IP logic: - Default is to allow all (Allow all (A:*) is a no-op). - Deny rules take precedence over allow rules. - Deny all rule (D:*) is applied last. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro
On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 00:42:31 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:47:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: If my ftp server stats are anything to go by, Linux Mint is the one power users are targeting right now. Number of downloads is a significant % of number of Ubuntu downloads. How much of that is a knee-jerk reaction to Unity, Mint being seen as Ubuntu without the new-fangled stuff we don't want to try to understand. After 5 minutes on my nieces' PC with a new Ubuntu Unity installation I had to switch off the machine and remove myself from the room until I calmed down. The swearing was too much for the family to bear! ;-) That said, the nieces seem completely at home with Unity and they like it more than the classic Ubuntu Gnome GUI. Tut, tut! Kids! I guess they will also like the MSWindows 8 GUI next. /sigh -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:05:39 -0600, Dale wrote: Is there a way after the install to add a Windoze OS to grub and all? I unplugged the windoze drive to make sure it didn't mess that up OR I mess up something. So, grub, or some bootloader, is installed on the wrong drive in this case. Plug the drive back in and run grub2-mkconfig. It will generate a new menu with a Windows option. No manual editing needed. Oh no. It can't be that easy. O_O I'm going to screw something up you watch. lol Oh, how do I boot it the first time tho? When I plug the windoze drive up, there won't be a grub. Yet anyway. Hm. Of course there is, as long as the BIOS is set to boot from the Linux disc, GRUB is there and waiting to boot Linux. Run grub2-mkconfig to generate a new config for the existing GRUB, with Windows included. -- Neil Bothwick CONGRSS.SYS corruptd... Re-boot Washington D.C? (Y/N) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Another hardware thread
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:06:49 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: I'm not a gamer, but I want a system with plenty of grunt. Video performance is not critical, on board would suffice, except I need something with dual output to drive two monitors. Do any of the onboard jobbies do this or is a separate Nvidia still the best option? AFAIK onboards very rarely have support for dual monitor. Besides, having a separate somewhat-beefier GPU might be usable in some cases. For instance, Ubuntu's Unity and Windows' Aero both rely on GPU to do their eye candy stuff. C'mon, don't be stingy... spare one PCIe slot for a graphic card :-) I'm not bothered about using a separate card, heck I could even re-use the one I have. I use neither Unity nor Windows tough. -- Neil Bothwick We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Another hardware thread
On Nov 12, 2011 5:42 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:06:49 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: I'm not a gamer, but I want a system with plenty of grunt. Video performance is not critical, on board would suffice, except I need something with dual output to drive two monitors. Do any of the onboard jobbies do this or is a separate Nvidia still the best option? AFAIK onboards very rarely have support for dual monitor. Besides, having a separate somewhat-beefier GPU might be usable in some cases. For instance, Ubuntu's Unity and Windows' Aero both rely on GPU to do their eye candy stuff. C'mon, don't be stingy... spare one PCIe slot for a graphic card :-) I'm not bothered about using a separate card, heck I could even re-use the one I have. I use neither Unity nor Windows tough. Well, those are just examples, illustrating that GPUs are no longer only used by games and cg renderers. Some BOINC projects also use the GPU, and who knows what else will utilize the GPU in the future. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] how can I disable renaming of root fs to /dev/root?
Jarry wrote, at 11/11/2011 09:37 PM:
Hi,
this is actually not problem but rather a matter of customs:
My new fresh installed system shows root-fs in df as
/dev/root, not actuall device (in my case /dev/md2).
I think I coud get used to it, but some software still needs
/dev/md2 (i.e. lilo), other does not find /dev/md2 anymore
and needs /dev/root to work properly (i.e. monit).
Moreover, in /etc/fstab I still have to use /dev/md2 as root
filesystem, while /etc/mtab shows only /dev/root.
I do not like such a mess and I'd like to put it in rather
consistent state where root filesystem has always the same
and only name. Is there some way to stop this renaming
of root filesystem to /dev/root and let it be as in old
baselayout1?
Jarry
try that patch (attached):
sometime ago i have found it in gentoo forums. probably did few modifications in
the original i found, cannot remember. it works for me for months with no
visible problems
victor
--- mtab.orig 2011-05-09 10:39:38.510430618 +0400
+++ /etc/init.d/mtab 2011-11-12 15:23:23.113980922 +0400
@@ -12,6 +12,9 @@
start()
{
+ # look in an easy way to where root is mounted from
+ ROOTFS=$(readlink -f /dev/root)
+
# /etc/mtab could be a symlink to /proc/mounts
if [ ! -w /etc/mtab -a -L /etc/mtab ]; then
eeinfo Skipping mtab update (non writeable symlink)
@@ -28,7 +31,8 @@
# makes / readonly and dismounts all tmpfs even if in use which is
# not good. Luckily, umount uses /etc/mtab instead of /proc/mounts
# which allows this hack to work.
- grep -v ^[^ ]* / tmpfs /proc/mounts /etc/mtab
+ grep -v ^[^ ]* / tmpfs /proc/mounts |
+ awk '$1 != rootfs {print}' | sed 's%/dev/root%'${ROOTFS}'%' /etc/mtab
# Remove stale backups
rm -f /etc/mtab~ /etc/mtab~~
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 09:14:27 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 12.11.2011 10:01, schrieb Pandu Poluan: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 15:46, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Sat 12 Nov 2011 01:54:10 PM IST, Pandu Poluan wrote: What is the *LIGHTEST* web server package you know for gentoo? I just want to serve the distfiles, so no CGI / PHP / whathaveyouscripting support is needed. Preferably, with logging so I can see which packages I missed, but not necessary. Rgds, nginx. You can disable fastcgi/etc using use flags. What about www-servers/fnord ? Its website[1] claims that its binaries are less than 20 kB[2] [1] http://www.fefe.de/fnord/ [2] http://www.fefe.de/fnord/others.html Rgds, Talking about small: `/bin/busybox httpd` I goes without saying that this is not meant to be web-facing. Most things are explained in the --help output but the config file format is only explained in a source code comment. See below: httpd.conf has the following format: H:/serverroot # define the server root. It will override -h A:172.20. # Allow address from 172.20.0.0/16 A:10.0.0.0/25 # Allow any address from 10.0.0.0-10.0.0.127 A:10.0.0.0/255.255.255.128 # Allow any address that previous set A:127.0.0.1 # Allow local loopback connections D:* # Deny from other IP connections E404:/path/e404.html # /path/e404.html is the 404 (not found) error page I:index.html # Show index.html when a directory is requested P:/url:[http://]hostname[:port]/new/path # When /urlXX is requested, reverse proxy # it to http://hostname[:port]/new/pathXX /cgi-bin:foo:bar # Require user foo, pwd bar on urls starting with /cgi-bin/ /adm:admin:setup # Require user admin, pwd setup on urls starting with /adm/ adm:toor:PaSsWd # or user toor, pwd PaSsWd on urls starting with /adm/ .au:audio/basic # additional mime type for audio.au files *.php:/path/php # run xxx.php through an interpreter A/D may be as a/d or allow/deny - only first char matters. Deny/Allow IP logic: - Default is to allow all (Allow all (A:*) is a no-op). - Deny rules take precedence over allow rules. - Deny all rule (D:*) is applied last. I've been using boa just for this purpose for years: * www-servers/boa Available versions: ~ 0.94.14_rc21 ~x86 ~sparc ~mips ~ppc ~amd64 [doc] Homepage:http://www.boa.org/ Description: A very small and very fast http daemon. It can be easily locked down for internet facing roles. I've also used thttpd (you can throttle its bandwidth if that's important in your network), but it's probably more than required for this purpose: * www-servers/thttpd Available versions: 2.25b-r7 amd64 ~hppa ~mips ppc sparc x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] ~ 2.25b-r8 ~amd64 ~hppa ~mips ~ppc ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] Homepage:http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ Description: Small and fast multiplexing webserver. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] mobo replaced; eth0 fails
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 21:41 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: 3. Some advised blowing away .../persistent-net.rules. I chose to modify it so that the new device is now eth0 and the old device is gone. Removing it does the same thing. The device file is re-created with the currently probed hardware and indexes start from 0. It's just that most people prefer to just remove it because it's less typing and less prone to errors.
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot start up KDE desktop Environment
On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 02:37:53 Lavender wrote: The problem is that X is not installed. to install X, edit /etc/make.conf and add VIDEO_CARDS=your video card here and emerge xorg-server or emerge xorg-x11 to get X How can it not be installed? Wouldn't KDE pull in Xorg packages as dependencies? Thanks, I hope it is all right without errors . If not read these pages for instructions: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot start up KDE desktop Environment
Am Samstag, 12. November 2011, 12:09:23 schrieb Mick: On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 02:37:53 Lavender wrote: The problem is that X is not installed. to install X, edit /etc/make.conf and add VIDEO_CARDS=your video card here and emerge xorg-server or emerge xorg-x11 to get X How can it not be installed? Wouldn't KDE pull in Xorg packages as dependencies? No, not the server. Mind, X is a client-server architecture. It's perfectly valid to run kde-clients on a machine, that has no xserver installed. Best, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
On Nov 12, 2011 7:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using boa just for this purpose for years: * www-servers/boa Available versions: ~ 0.94.14_rc21 ~x86 ~sparc ~mips ~ppc ~amd64 [doc] Homepage:http://www.boa.org/ Description: A very small and very fast http daemon. It can be easily locked down for internet facing roles. I've also used thttpd (you can throttle its bandwidth if that's important in your network), but it's probably more than required for this purpose: * www-servers/thttpd Available versions: 2.25b-r7 amd64 ~hppa ~mips ppc sparc x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] ~ 2.25b-r8 ~amd64 ~hppa ~mips ~ppc ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] Homepage:http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ Description: Small and fast multiplexing webserver. Thanks for all the input! During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 12:40:08 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 12, 2011 7:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using boa just for this purpose for years: * www-servers/boa Available versions: ~ 0.94.14_rc21 ~x86 ~sparc ~mips ~ppc ~amd64 [doc] Homepage:http://www.boa.org/ Description: A very small and very fast http daemon. It can be easily locked down for internet facing roles. I've also used thttpd (you can throttle its bandwidth if that's important in your network), but it's probably more than required for this purpose: * www-servers/thttpd Available versions: 2.25b-r7 amd64 ~hppa ~mips ppc sparc x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] ~ 2.25b-r8 ~amd64 ~hppa ~mips ~ppc ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] Homepage:http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ Description: Small and fast multiplexing webserver. Thanks for all the input! During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. HTTP is not really 'sharing'. It is just 'copying'. Clients download the distfiles from the home server to minimise load on the gentoo mirrors. Following the download a client machine will have a local copy of said distfile in the client://usr/distfile. With NFS there is only one copy of the file, on the server, shared by other clients in the LAN. In my case the server is not always on, so NFS would not be appropriate. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 07:40:08PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 12, 2011 7:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using boa just for this purpose for years: * www-servers/boa Available versions: ~ 0.94.14_rc21 ~x86 ~sparc ~mips ~ppc ~amd64 [doc] Homepage:http://www.boa.org/ Description: A very small and very fast http daemon. It can be easily locked down for internet facing roles. I've also used thttpd (you can throttle its bandwidth if that's important in your network), but it's probably more than required for this purpose: * www-servers/thttpd Available versions: 2.25b-r7 amd64 ~hppa ~mips ppc sparc x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] ~ 2.25b-r8 ~amd64 ~hppa ~mips ~ppc ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] Homepage:http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ Description: Small and fast multiplexing webserver. Thanks for all the input! During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. NFS doesn't like when it looses connection to the server. The only problems I had ever with NFS were because I forgot to unmout it before a server restart or when I took a computer (laptop) off to another network... Otherwise it works well, esp. when mounted ro on the clients, however for distfiles it might make sense to allow the clients download and save tarballs that are not there yet ;), though I never used it with many computer emerging/downloading same same stuff, so can't say if locking etc works correctly... And with NFS the clients won't duplicate the files in their own distfiles directories ;) yoyo
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
On Saturday 12 November 2011 14:01:54 Mick wrote: On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 12:40:08 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 12, 2011 7:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using boa just for this purpose for years: * www-servers/boa Available versions: ~ 0.94.14_rc21 ~x86 ~sparc ~mips ~ppc ~amd64 [doc] Homepage:http://www.boa.org/ Description: A very small and very fast http daemon. It can be easily locked down for internet facing roles. I've also used thttpd (you can throttle its bandwidth if that's important in your network), but it's probably more than required for this purpose: * www-servers/thttpd Available versions: 2.25b-r7 amd64 ~hppa ~mips ppc sparc x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] ~ 2.25b-r8 ~amd64 ~hppa ~mips ~ppc ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] Homepage:http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ Description: Small and fast multiplexing webserver. Thanks for all the input! During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. HTTP is not really 'sharing'. It is just 'copying'. Clients download the distfiles from the home server to minimise load on the gentoo mirrors. Following the download a client machine will have a local copy of said distfile in the client://usr/distfile. With NFS there is only one copy of the file, on the server, shared by other clients in the LAN. In my case the server is not always on, so NFS would not be appropriate. With NFS, there is only one distfiles repo. So, when someone emerge an unknown program, the distfiles become available to your whole network (if shared of course). I share /mnt/portage (the portage tree on a reiserfs) and /mnt/distfiles (on a ext4 fs). The tree is synced only once also ! It reduce server load (bandwitch on gentoo master server) and your global diskspace used (because repo are mutualized). -- Stéphane Guedon page web : http://www.22decembre.eu/ carte de visite : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.vcf clé publique gpg : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
Am 12.11.2011 13:40, schrieb Pandu Poluan: During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. Rgds, How exactly had you planned to share distfiles? You didn't want to mirror everything from the offical mirrors, did you? I'm not perfectly sure how portage handles a mirror that occasionally returns 404 errors but I think I've seen it fall back to the official mirrors in that case. Anyway, making educated guesses about what should be on your own mirror is probably a bit ineffective unless you have a very homogeneous environment. What I think you /should/ have wanted is a proxy specifically configured to cache very large files. net-proxy/http-replicator has been made specifically for Gentoo distfiles. NFS has the advantage that it doesn't duplicate distfiles locally on all machines. It is also easier to set up. Disadvantages? I'm unsure how portage will handle cases when two machines fetch the same file at the same time. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
On Nov 12, 2011 8:05 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 12:40:08 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 12, 2011 7:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using boa just for this purpose for years: * www-servers/boa Available versions: ~ 0.94.14_rc21 ~x86 ~sparc ~mips ~ppc ~amd64 [doc] Homepage:http://www.boa.org/ Description: A very small and very fast http daemon. It can be easily locked down for internet facing roles. I've also used thttpd (you can throttle its bandwidth if that's important in your network), but it's probably more than required for this purpose: * www-servers/thttpd Available versions: 2.25b-r7 amd64 ~hppa ~mips ppc sparc x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] ~ 2.25b-r8 ~amd64 ~hppa ~mips ~ppc ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] Homepage:http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ Description: Small and fast multiplexing webserver. Thanks for all the input! During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. HTTP is not really 'sharing'. It is just 'copying'. Clients download the distfiles from the home server to minimise load on the gentoo mirrors. Yeah, should've put quotes around the sharing part. Following the download a client machine will have a local copy of said distfile in the client://usr/distfile. With NFS there is only one copy of the file, on the server, shared by other clients in the LAN. In my case the server is not always on, so NFS would not be appropriate. Hmmm, you have a point there. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
On Nov 12, 2011 8:16 PM, YoYo Siska y...@gl.ksp.sk wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 07:40:08PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 12, 2011 7:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using boa just for this purpose for years: * www-servers/boa Available versions: ~ 0.94.14_rc21 ~x86 ~sparc ~mips ~ppc ~amd64 [doc] Homepage:http://www.boa.org/ Description: A very small and very fast http daemon. It can be easily locked down for internet facing roles. I've also used thttpd (you can throttle its bandwidth if that's important in your network), but it's probably more than required for this purpose: * www-servers/thttpd Available versions: 2.25b-r7 amd64 ~hppa ~mips ppc sparc x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] ~ 2.25b-r8 ~amd64 ~hppa ~mips ~ppc ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd [static] Homepage:http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ Description: Small and fast multiplexing webserver. Thanks for all the input! During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. NFS doesn't like when it looses connection to the server. The only problems I had ever with NFS were because I forgot to unmout it before a server restart or when I took a computer (laptop) off to another network... Otherwise it works well, esp. when mounted ro on the clients, however for distfiles it might make sense to allow the clients download and save tarballs that are not there yet ;), though I never used it with many computer emerging/downloading same same stuff, so can't say if locking etc works correctly... And with NFS the clients won't duplicate the files in their own distfiles directories ;) Yes, that would be beneficial. But if NFS is as finicky as that, what's a better way to share directories? Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
On Nov 12, 2011 8:20 PM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Am 12.11.2011 13:40, schrieb Pandu Poluan: During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. Rgds, How exactly had you planned to share distfiles? You didn't want to mirror everything from the offical mirrors, did you? I'm not perfectly sure how portage handles a mirror that occasionally returns 404 errors but I think I've seen it fall back to the official mirrors in that case. Yes, portage (at least, 2.2) automatically use the next mirror in the list. Anyway, making educated guesses about what should be on your own mirror is probably a bit ineffective unless you have a very homogeneous environment. What I think you /should/ have wanted is a proxy specifically configured to cache very large files. net-proxy/http-replicator has been made specifically for Gentoo distfiles. I had planned on having a script peruse the log file, looking for which box got a 404, and 1 hour later try to move the file using scp from that box into the common local subrepo. But http-replicator sounds mighty better :-) NFS has the advantage that it doesn't duplicate distfiles locally on all machines. It is also easier to set up. Disadvantages? I'm unsure how portage will handle cases when two machines fetch the same file at the same time. I can always stagger the time my boxes fetch the distfiles. That should prevent locking problems. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files) ?
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:24, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: What is the *LIGHTEST* web server package you know for gentoo? I just want to serve the distfiles, so no CGI / PHP / whathaveyouscripting support is needed. Preferably, with logging so I can see which packages I missed, but not necessary. Rgds, We use for such purpose http://linux.bytesex.org/misc/webfs.html . It features both (reasonable) performance (threaded), security (chroot, SSL) and simplicity (can be statically linked, can be controlled solely from arguments). For example (or add -d for debugging): webfsd -F -p 80 -r . Ciprian.
Re: [gentoo-user] mobo replaced; eth0 fails
On Sat, Nov 12 2011, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 21:41 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: 3. Some advised blowing away .../persistent-net.rules. I chose to modify it so that the new device is now eth0 and the old device is gone. Removing it does the same thing. The device file is re-created with the currently probed hardware and indexes start from 0. It's just that most people prefer to just remove it because it's less typing and less prone to errors. I was worried that then eth0 might be wireless and eth1 wired, but I should have tried it and only changed names if the switch happened. thanks, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] mobo replaced; eth0 fails
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:44:16 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Removing it does the same thing. The device file is re-created with the currently probed hardware and indexes start from 0. It's just that most people prefer to just remove it because it's less typing and less prone to errors. I was worried that then eth0 might be wireless and eth1 wired, but I should have tried it and only changed names if the switch happened. No, that was a valid worry, you did the right thing. Removing the file is easiest, but only 100% safe if you have only one eth device. -- Neil Bothwick Love and Trust: Oral sex between cannibals. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mobo replaced; eth0 fails
On Sat, Nov 12 2011, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:44:16 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Removing it does the same thing. The device file is re-created with the currently probed hardware and indexes start from 0. It's just that most people prefer to just remove it because it's less typing and less prone to errors. I was worried that then eth0 might be wireless and eth1 wired, but I should have tried it and only changed names if the switch happened. No, that was a valid worry, you did the right thing. Removing the file is easiest, but only 100% safe if you have only one eth device. Thanks for the confirmation. allan
[gentoo-user] XEmacs from Outer Space...is it Plan 9 or what ? ;)
Hi, for reason unknown to me the regular eix-sync; emerge-dance presents XEmacs-base and XEmacs as New to install packages since two days. I am not using this editor nor is it in my world file. What needs this...especially because it is an interactive application. My $EDITOR show vim. Any ideas? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] XEmacs from Outer Space...is it Plan 9 or what ? ;)
Am 12.11.2011 15:41, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, for reason unknown to me the regular eix-sync; emerge-dance presents XEmacs-base and XEmacs as New to install packages since two days. I am not using this editor nor is it in my world file. What needs this...especially because it is an interactive application. My $EDITOR show vim. Any ideas? Best regards, mcc Try `emerge --tree -pvuD @world` to see what is pulling it in. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] XEmacs from Outer Space...is it Plan 9 or what ? ;)
Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net [11-11-12 16:16]: Am 12.11.2011 15:41, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, for reason unknown to me the regular eix-sync; emerge-dance presents XEmacs-base and XEmacs as New to install packages since two days. I am not using this editor nor is it in my world file. What needs this...especially because it is an interactive application. My $EDITOR show vim. Any ideas? Best regards, mcc Try `emerge --tree -pvuD @world` to see what is pulling it in. Gives me that: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] app-xemacs/emerge-1.11 [nomerge ] app-editors/xemacs-21.4.22-r2 USE=X berkdb gdbm gif gpm jpeg png tiff -Xaw3d -athena -canna -dnd -eolconv -esd -freewnn -ldap -motif -mule -nas -neXt -pop -postgres -xface -xim [ebuild N ] app-xemacs/xemacs-base-2.27 524 kB [ebuild N ]app-editors/xemacs-21.4.22-r2 USE=X berkdb gdbm gif gpm jpeg png tiff -Xaw3d -athena -canna -dnd -eolconv -esd -freewnn -ldap -motif -mule -nas -neXt -pop -postgres -xface -xim 8 Looks like emerge became part of the xemacs packagevim seems not good enough...;) My current emerge is version 2.1.10.11... scratching my head Any idea, where the knot is? Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Re: how can I disable renaming of root fs to /dev/root?
victor romanchuk: try that patch (attached): Thanks for that. Here is a comparison: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on rootfs 151187140 92949648 50557624 65% / /dev/root151187140 92949648 50557624 65% / rc-svcdir 102496 928 10% /lib/rc/init.d [...] With patch: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5151187140 92949656 50557616 65% / rc-svcdir 102496 928 10% /lib/rc/init.d [...] sometime ago i have found it in gentoo forums. probably did few modifications in the original i found, cannot remember. it works for me for months with no visible problems I will wait for problems to occur. ;) Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] XEmacs from Outer Space...is it Plan 9 or what ? ;)
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 4:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ...snip... Try `emerge --tree -pvuD @world` to see what is pulling it in. Gives me that: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] app-xemacs/emerge-1.11 [nomerge ] app-editors/xemacs-21.4.22-r2 USE=X berkdb gdbm gif gpm jpeg png tiff -Xaw3d -athena -canna -dnd -eolconv -esd -freewnn -ldap -motif -mule -nas -neXt -pop -postgres -xface -xim [ebuild N ] app-xemacs/xemacs-base-2.27 524 kB [ebuild N ] app-editors/xemacs-21.4.22-r2 USE=X berkdb gdbm gif gpm jpeg png tiff -Xaw3d -athena -canna -dnd -eolconv -esd -freewnn -ldap -motif -mule -nas -neXt -pop -postgres -xface -xim 8 Looks like emerge became part of the xemacs packagevim seems not good enough...;) My current emerge is version 2.1.10.11... scratching my head Any idea, where the knot is? Best regards, mcc my guess is that you accidently installed app-xemacs/emerge which just happens to have the same name as the command 'emerge' that sys-apps/portage installs //Fredric
Re: [gentoo-user] XEmacs from Outer Space...is it Plan 9 or what ? ;)
Fredric Johansson fredric.miscm...@gmail.com [11-11-12 17:32]: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 4:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ...snip... Try `emerge --tree -pvuD @world` to see what is pulling it in. Gives me that: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] app-xemacs/emerge-1.11 [nomerge ] app-editors/xemacs-21.4.22-r2 USE=X berkdb gdbm gif gpm jpeg png tiff -Xaw3d -athena -canna -dnd -eolconv -esd -freewnn -ldap -motif -mule -nas -neXt -pop -postgres -xface -xim [ebuild N ] app-xemacs/xemacs-base-2.27 524 kB [ebuild N ] app-editors/xemacs-21.4.22-r2 USE=X berkdb gdbm gif gpm jpeg png tiff -Xaw3d -athena -canna -dnd -eolconv -esd -freewnn -ldap -motif -mule -nas -neXt -pop -postgres -xface -xim 8 Looks like emerge became part of the xemacs packagevim seems not good enough...;) My current emerge is version 2.1.10.11... scratching my head Any idea, where the knot is? Best regards, mcc my guess is that you accidently installed app-xemacs/emerge which just happens to have the same name as the command 'emerge' that sys-apps/portage installs //Fredric hmm... may be. But: Now and when I may did install it accidently it is/was true, that Xemacs was needed and would be installed. Why was it pulled in now, if it would have been installed when I installed app-xemacs/emerge accidently? Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Re: The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:14:33 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: Disadvantages? I'm unsure how portage will handle cases when two machines fetch the same file at the same time. In my experience concurrent/overlapping fetches work just fine, thanks to portage's lock file. The second potential downloader just waits or does something else in the meantime. -h
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot start up KDE desktop Environment
On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 12:30:13 Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Am Samstag, 12. November 2011, 12:09:23 schrieb Mick: On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 02:37:53 Lavender wrote: The problem is that X is not installed. to install X, edit /etc/make.conf and add VIDEO_CARDS=your video card here and emerge xorg-server or emerge xorg-x11 to get X How can it not be installed? Wouldn't KDE pull in Xorg packages as dependencies? No, not the server. Mind, X is a client-server architecture. It's perfectly valid to run kde-clients on a machine, that has no xserver installed. Oh! My mistake. I thought that xorg-server would be pulled in by some X USE flag or other. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:42:31 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:47:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: If my ftp server stats are anything to go by, Linux Mint is the one power users are targeting right now. Number of downloads is a significant % of number of Ubuntu downloads. How much of that is a knee-jerk reaction to Unity, Mint being seen as Ubuntu without the new-fangled stuff we don't want to try to understand. If the contents of my inbox are anything to go by, then the answer is quite a lot. The common thread lately is that people using Mint do not want to change just because for no good reason. Can't argue with that - gnome2 ain't broke so gnome3 isn't the fix. The solution is a fork. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:44:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The common thread lately is that people using Mint do not want to change just because for no good reason. Can't argue with that - gnome2 ain't broke so gnome3 isn't the fix. The solution is a fork. Deja Vu, or should that be Keja Vu? -- Neil Bothwick Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread
Neil Bothwick wrote: It's time for a new desktop, I'd rather the the money to Amazon or Ebuyer than the Inland Revenue. I'm currently running a Core2Duo system, but use AMD before that, so I have no real allegiances. I was thinking of something like an AMD 1100T 6 core CPU, the new Bulldozers are expensive and initial reports are not that promising, but an Intel that gives the same bang per buck would do. For AMD I'd recommend to go for a 960T : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103995 It's a 95W and as a Zosma it's actually a 6-core. Most of those (not all unfortunately) can be unlocked to a 6-core. Has Turbo functionality. For Intel a 2500K is the way to go but maybe you should wait for Ivy Bridge. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 I'm thinking Gigabyte for motherboard, based on comments made here in similar threads (like the one Dale started a while ago). Go for ASUS or Gigabyte. For AMD make sure you pick one that is compatible with the Bulldozer Architecture. For example : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128509 Those are UEFI boards which will help with larger AF drives. For Intel go with Z68 boards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131790 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128507 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157264 I need lots of SATA ports (fortunately, I bought a pair of 2TB drives a fortnight ago, just before the prices went ballistic). Above boards have lots of SATA ports. I'm not a gamer, but I want a system with plenty of grunt. Video performance is not critical, on board would suffice, except I need something with dual output to drive two monitors. Do any of the onboard jobbies do this or is a separate Nvidia still the best option? Dual output what ? DSUB, DVI ? A fanless card : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102933 Something more powerful : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150543
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:00:15 +0200, masterprometheus wrote: For AMD I'd recommend to go for a 960T : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103995 It's a 95W and as a Zosma it's actually a 6-core. Most of those (not all unfortunately) can be unlocked to a 6-core. Has Turbo functionality. That sounds like a poor gamble. A 3.0GHz CPu that I may be able to unlock to 6 cores for £20 less than a genuine 6 cores 3.2GHz 1090T. I either get slightly less for slightly less, or a lot less for slightly less :( -- Neil Bothwick God created the world in six days. On the seventh day he also decided to create England... just to try out his Practical Joke Weather Machine. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:40:08 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? No reason at all, I've been doing it for years without a single problem. So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. The benefit is that everything is centralised. With an HTTP proxy, you still have to download from the server to each client. The only drawback that I experience is that if several packages use the same, large source file, as so many of the KDE packages do, you are repeatedly pulling the same file over the network, which is a little slower. -- Neil Bothwick Keyboard: (n.) a device used by programmers to write software for a mouse or joystick and by operators for playing games such as 'word processing.' signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: app-emulation/virtualbox-modules and kernel sources
Am Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:13:04 + (UTC) schrieb Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com: On 2011-11-10, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: Hello everyone! virtualbox modules fails with the following * Messages for package app-emulation/virtualbox-modules-4.1.4: * Could not find a Makefile in the kernel source directory. [...] # uname -a Linux hostname 2.6.39-gentoo-r3 #5 SMP Sun Oct 9 19:25:51 CEST 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux i don't get it. does anybody know whats wrong? Presumably there isn't a Makefile in /usr/src/Linux? sorry, i was in a hurry, i really should have asked more specific questions. yes, there is no makefile in the kernel sources and that causes all make commands in the kernel source dir to fail (of course). i have the sources for 3.0.6 installed and configured emerge to change the symlinks on install of kernel sources. but... does emerge delete the older makefiles? why would it? i hope there is a reasonable explanation for the makefiles disappearing, i really can't use a failing HD at the moment. If you've done a make clean or something similar in the linux source directory (or if you've never built a kernel), you'll have to well, i built the kernel i am running, is there a different way? :P re-generate at least the files required to build modules. Try doing make modules_prepare in your linux source directory. The full story is in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kbuild/modules.txt sectio 2. thanks!
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
Its been solved in the past ... designed for just this purpose: moriah ~ # esearch http-replicator [ Results for search key : http-replicator ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * net-proxy/http-replicator Latest version available: 3.0-r2 Latest version installed: 3.0-r2 Size of downloaded files: 38 kB Homepage:http://sourceforge.net/projects/http-replicator Description: Proxy cache for Gentoo packages License: GPL-2 moriah ~ # I chain them together (two levels, avoiding expensive download costs) so the remote site doesnt have it in its cache, upstream is the master cache, which if it doesnt have it will fetch from the repo. You can specify what port it runs on, and then use the http_proxy entry in make.conf to point the clients to it thus avoiding port 80 and any existing webserver. Handles concurrent fetches transparently. Overall, I have found it preferable to NFS which has been a bit flaky at times in the past. Recommended! BillK On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 22:01 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:40:08 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? No reason at all, I've been doing it for years without a single problem. So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. The benefit is that everything is centralised. With an HTTP proxy, you still have to download from the server to each client. The only drawback that I experience is that if several packages use the same, large source file, as so many of the KDE packages do, you are repeatedly pulling the same file over the network, which is a little slower.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro
Dale wrote: Hi, This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux on my brothers rig. The heat sink on the CPU is not much, OEM type. I don't want to install Gentoo because of that and it is a older rig with a slow CPU and not a lot of ram either. So, what is a easy to install distro that has KDE4, Seamonkey, gtkam, GIMP and such? I want something easy because I want to install and leave it be until he can get a new rig built. Then I'll be installing Gentoo for a more permanent install. I looked at Kubuntu, Ubuntu and tried to install Mandriva. Mandriva got to a point and just froze up on me. I tried three times and it did the same thing each time so no clue what is going on there. Ideas? Dale :-) :-) One more question. What is a easy to install but WELL tested and STABLE binary distro? I'm thinking something that needs a update 2 or 3 times a year or something. My brother is liking Linux a lot. No more Norton to pop up and aggravate him and he can just surf wherever he wants for the most part. Once I get his emails moved over, windoze is going to take a loong nap. ;-) When I plug up the windoze drive, he dreads it. My sis-n-law is liking Kpat and I installed pysol today. She likes farming on facebook and card games. I think those two alone will keep her happy a long time. Thoughts? By the way, I have read some of the other messages but holding off on a reply in case something doesn't work like I want. I did get grub to come up when booting by hitting the shift key. Progress. I forgot my notes tho. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread
masterprometheus wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm thinking Gigabyte for motherboard, based on comments made here in similar threads (like the one Dale started a while ago). I highly recommend Gigabyte. My mobo has been great. Everything runs cool and stable but I don't overclock either. This mobo will but I just don't use that feature. I'm not saying anything bad about ASUS just that I don't have a lot of experience with it. I have messed with one once for a friend, He worked fine and no complaints. I only had it for a couple days tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread
I have a asus board that does some pretty fair work on overclocking, but it had a feature called Everyready, an feature to boot and load a webbrowser or some games in 6 seconds.. But it crashed after the first bios update.. Érico V. Porto On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: masterprometheus wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm thinking Gigabyte for motherboard, based on comments made here in similar threads (like the one Dale started a while ago). I highly recommend Gigabyte. My mobo has been great. Everything runs cool and stable but I don't overclock either. This mobo will but I just don't use that feature. I'm not saying anything bad about ASUS just that I don't have a lot of experience with it. I have messed with one once for a friend, He worked fine and no complaints. I only had it for a couple days tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Another hardware thread
What kind of computer are you looking for? If you are not a gamer but do like to watch high res videos, go for a fanless video board. If you like to do image processing, nvidia boards are also a good idea because of CUDA capabilities.. Érico V. Porto On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Érico Porto ericoporto2...@gmail.comwrote: I have a asus board that does some pretty fair work on overclocking, but it had a feature called Everyready, an feature to boot and load a webbrowser or some games in 6 seconds.. But it crashed after the first bios update.. Érico V. Porto On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: masterprometheus wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm thinking Gigabyte for motherboard, based on comments made here in similar threads (like the one Dale started a while ago). I highly recommend Gigabyte. My mobo has been great. Everything runs cool and stable but I don't overclock either. This mobo will but I just don't use that feature. I'm not saying anything bad about ASUS just that I don't have a lot of experience with it. I have messed with one once for a friend, He worked fine and no complaints. I only had it for a couple days tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro
Install Ubuntu. It's easy to use, and doesn't need to be configured so much. It's also friendly for beginners and has lots of references on the web if something break. Also, it's normal look is prettier then Debian. Érico V. Porto On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux on my brothers rig. The heat sink on the CPU is not much, OEM type. I don't want to install Gentoo because of that and it is a older rig with a slow CPU and not a lot of ram either. So, what is a easy to install distro that has KDE4, Seamonkey, gtkam, GIMP and such? I want something easy because I want to install and leave it be until he can get a new rig built. Then I'll be installing Gentoo for a more permanent install. I looked at Kubuntu, Ubuntu and tried to install Mandriva. Mandriva got to a point and just froze up on me. I tried three times and it did the same thing each time so no clue what is going on there. Ideas? Dale :-) :-) One more question. What is a easy to install but WELL tested and STABLE binary distro? I'm thinking something that needs a update 2 or 3 times a year or something. My brother is liking Linux a lot. No more Norton to pop up and aggravate him and he can just surf wherever he wants for the most part. Once I get his emails moved over, windoze is going to take a loong nap. ;-) When I plug up the windoze drive, he dreads it. My sis-n-law is liking Kpat and I installed pysol today. She likes farming on facebook and card games. I think those two alone will keep her happy a long time. Thoughts? By the way, I have read some of the other messages but holding off on a reply in case something doesn't work like I want. I did get grub to come up when booting by hitting the shift key. Progress. I forgot my notes tho. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro
Érico Porto wrote: Install Ubuntu. It's easy to use, and doesn't need to be configured so much. It's also friendly for beginners and has lots of references on the web if something break. Also, it's normal look is prettier then Debian. Érico V. Porto Then I guess I did OK then. I got Kubuntu installed which I guess is Ubuntu with KDE as a default. It works good but just wanted to make sure I picked a good one. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re:Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot start up KDE desktop Environment
I have recompiled the kernel as The X server configuration howto says.But when I emerge xorg-server it had errors:!!!Error: The xorg-x11 OpenGL implementation doesn't seem to provide!!!Error: libGL.so file. This might be an effect of breakage introducedby a prioprietary driver installer. Please re-merge the package!!!Error: providing your OpenGL implementation!!!Error: Selected OpenGL implementation incompleteHmm, installing KDE is not that easy.So what's wrong with this?
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot start up KDE desktop Environment
2011/11/12 Lavender lavender_mat...@163.com: I have recompiled the kernel as The X server configuration howto says. But when I emerge xorg-server it had errors: !!!Error: The xorg-x11 OpenGL implementation doesn't seem to provide !!!Error: libGL.so file. This might be an effect of breakage introduced by a prioprietary driver installer. Please re-merge the package !!!Error: providing your OpenGL imp lementation !!!Error: Selected OpenGL implementation incomplete Hmm, installing KDE is not that easy. So what's wrong with this? I don't think that has anything to do with KDE. Maybe this forum thread is part of the answer? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-886248-start-0.html - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro
Florian Philipp wrote: Am 12.11.2011 00:36, schrieb Dale: [...] Now to figure out why the windows in Kubuntu have no borders and no little X to close the window. sighs I hate the little details. Dale :-) :-) That is a typical symptom that the window manager is not running (probably crashed while loading some fancy window decorations). Try to execute `kwin` or `kwin --replace` in a terminal. Regards, Florian Philipp Well this is odd. When I booted it this time, it worked fine. The borders were back, the little X to close windows was there and I could switch desktops too. Odd, usually if something is broke on Linux, it is broke until it is fixed. Weird. Thanks for the help but glad I didn't need it. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] udev rules for an iPod Touch?
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:14 PM, James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote: As for native support, it looks as though Apple have updated their protocol, so if you've a new i*, or have updated recently, then the in-portage versions of ifuse and libimobiledevice won't work - I've just gotten my updated iPad working with current git versions of both however. I've also been working on: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Apple_ipod,_ipad,_iphone Please feel free to add to it. :) J Hi James, Sitting here this evening I remembered you had posted this so I thought I'd give it a try. While there's a lot of life I still don't have a connection. Here's what I see following along with your commands: 1) idevice_id just prints a help list. However idevice_id -l does give me a serial number. 2) ideviceinfo prints lots of information from the ipod. 3) idevicepair pair idevicepair validate report success. Great so far. 5) ifuse /mnt/ipod does mount the ipod. I can cd to /mnt/ipod and see directories, etc. k2 ipod # ls -la total 4 drwxr-xr-x 0 root root 204 Dec 31 1969 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Nov 4 17:50 .. drwxr-xr-x 0 root root 102 Dec 31 1969 DCIM drwxr-xr-x 0 root root 102 Dec 31 1969 Downloads -rw-r--r-- 0 root root0 Dec 31 1969 com.apple.itunes.lock_sync drwxr-xr-x 0 root root 204 Dec 31 1969 iTunes_Control k2 ipod # At this point I start gtkpod but cannot find the ipod. I'm wondering what root might need to do to make /mnt/ipod visible to my user account? Should I be adding my id to some groups possibly? Something else? Thanks for the write-up. - Mark
[gentoo-user] net-libs/gnutls-2.10.5 fails to compile
I can't get the package net-libs/gnutls-2.10.5 to emerge because of a c++ linker error. What can I do to fix this? # MAKEOPTS=-j1 FEATURES=-ccache ebuild $(equery which net-libs/gnutls-2.10.5) merge ... make[4]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/net-libs/gnutls-2.10.5/work/gnutls-2.10.5/doc/examples' /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -march=pentium3 -mtune=pentium3 -m32 -Os -fmessage-length=0 -pipe -fno-implicit-templates -no-install -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed -o ex-cxx ex-cxx.o libexamples.la ../../lib/libgnutls.la ../../libextra/libgnutls-extra.la ../../gl/libgnu.la ../../lib/libgnutlsxx.la libtool: link: i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -march=pentium3 -mtune=pentium3 -m32 -Os -fmessage-length=0 -pipe -fno-implicit-templates -Wl,-O1 -o ex-cxx ex-cxx.o -Wl,--as-needed ./.libs/libexamples.a ../../lib/.libs/libgnutls.so -L/usr/lib ../../libextra/.libs/libgnutls-extra.so ../../gl/.libs/libgnu.a ../../lib/.libs/libgnutlsxx.so /var/tmp/portage/net-libs/gnutls-2.10.5/work/gnutls-2.10.5/lib/.libs/libgnutls.so -ltasn1 -lz /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so /usr/lib/libgpg-error.so -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/var/tmp/portage/net-libs/gnutls-2.10.5/work/gnutls-2.10.5/lib/.libs -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/var/tmp/portage/net-libs/gnutls-2.10.5/work/gnutls-2.10.5/libextra/.libs ../../lib/.libs/libgnutlsxx.so: undefined reference to `std::vectorgnutls_datum_t, std::allocatorgnutls_datum_t ::_M_insert_aux(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iteratorgnutls_datum_t*, std::vectorgnutls_datum_t, std::allocatorgnutls_datum_t , gnutls_datum_t const)' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ... # emerge --info =net-libs/gnutls-2.10.5 Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0, gcc-4.5.3, glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.32-35-generic i686) = System Settings = System uname: Linux-2.6.32-35-generic-i686-Intel-R-_Atom-TM-_CPU_N280_@_1.66GHz-with-gentoo-2.0.3 Timestamp of tree: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:30:01 + ccache version 2.4 [enabled] app-shells/bash: 4.1_p9 dev-lang/python: 2.6.6-r1, 2.7.2-r3, 3.1.4-r3 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r9 dev-util/cmake: 2.8.4-r1 dev-util/pkgconfig: 0.26 sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.3 sys-apps/openrc: 0.8.3-r1 sys-apps/sandbox: 2.4 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.68 sys-devel/automake: 1.11.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.20.1-r1 sys-devel/gcc:4.4.4-r2, 4.5.3-r1 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1-r1 sys-devel/libtool:2.4-r1 sys-devel/make: 3.82-r1 sys-kernel/linux-headers: 2.6.39 (virtual/os-headers) sys-libs/glibc: 2.12.2 Repositories: gentoo enlightenment ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 ACCEPT_LICENSE=* -@EULA CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -mtune=pentium3 -m32 -Os -fmessage-length=0 -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -mtune=pentium3 -m32 -Os -fmessage-length=0 -pipe -fno-implicit-templates DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=assume-digests binpkg-logs ccache collision-protect distlocks ebuild-locks fakeroot fixlafiles fixpackages news parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch usersandbox usersync FFLAGS= GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.usu.edu/mirrors/gentoo/ http://gentoo.llarian.net/ http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/gentoo/; LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed LINGUAS=en en_US en_US.UTF-8 MAKEOPTS= -j3 -l3.5 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/ PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/var/lib/layman/enlightenment SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=X acl avahi bash-completion berkdb blas bzip2 cairo cli cracklib crypt cscope cups curl cxx dbus dri fortran gcj gdbm gpm iconv ipv6 jpeg kpathsea lapack latex lua modules mudflap ncurses networkmanager nls nptl nptlonly openmp pam pcre perl png pppd python readline session ssl svg sysfs tcpd truetype unicode vim-pager vim-with-x x86 xorg xpm zlib ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel loopback virmidi ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav
[gentoo-user] pg_upgrade from 9.0.5 to 9.1.1
I am trying to upgrade my postgresql server from 9.0 to 9.1. I've installed 9.1.1 and used eselect to make it the slot to run for the system. When I run: pg_upgrade -v --check -d /var/lib/postgresql/9.0/data -D \ /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/data -b /usr/lib64/postgresql-9.0/bin -B \ /usr/lib64/postgresql-9.1/bin I get: Running in verbose mode Performing Consistency Checks - Checking current, bin, and data directories ok Checking cluster versions ok /usr/lib64/postgresql-9.0/bin/pg_ctl -w -l /dev/null -D /var/lib/postgresql/9.0/data -o -p 5432 -c autovacuum=off -c autovacuum_freeze_max_age=20 start /dev/null 21 When I run that command manually and send the output to a logfile, it appears that it's trying to find postgresql's *.conf files in the data directory rather than in /etc/postgresql-9.0. I don't see a way to specify the location of the conf files separate from the data files. How do I proceed? -- -Michael Rident stolidi verba Latina. -Ovid
Re: [gentoo-user] pg_upgrade from 9.0.5 to 9.1.1
On Nov 13, 2011 12:35 PM, Michael George geo...@mutualdata.com wrote: I am trying to upgrade my postgresql server from 9.0 to 9.1. I've installed 9.1.1 and used eselect to make it the slot to run for the system. When I run: pg_upgrade -v --check -d /var/lib/postgresql/9.0/data -D \ /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/data -b /usr/lib64/postgresql-9.0/bin -B \ /usr/lib64/postgresql-9.1/bin I get: Running in verbose mode Performing Consistency Checks - Checking current, bin, and data directories ok Checking cluster versions ok /usr/lib64/postgresql-9.0/bin/pg_ctl -w -l /dev/null -D /var/lib/postgresql/9.0/data -o -p 5432 -c autovacuum=off -c autovacuum_freeze_max_age=20 start /dev/null 21 When I run that command manually and send the output to a logfile, it appears that it's trying to find postgresql's *.conf files in the data directory rather than in /etc/postgresql-9.0. I don't see a way to specify the location of the conf files separate from the data files. How do I proceed? I'm not (yet) well-versed in postgresql, but have you tried creating symlinks? Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] pg_upgrade from 9.0.5 to 9.1.1
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:31:58AM -0500, Michael George wrote: I am trying to upgrade my postgresql server from 9.0 to 9.1. I've installed 9.1.1 and used eselect to make it the slot to run for the system. When I run: pg_upgrade -v --check -d /var/lib/postgresql/9.0/data -D \ /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/data -b /usr/lib64/postgresql-9.0/bin -B \ /usr/lib64/postgresql-9.1/bin I get: Running in verbose mode Performing Consistency Checks - Checking current, bin, and data directories ok Checking cluster versions ok /usr/lib64/postgresql-9.0/bin/pg_ctl -w -l /dev/null -D /var/lib/postgresql/9.0/data -o -p 5432 -c autovacuum=off -c autovacuum_freeze_max_age=20 start /dev/null 21 When I run that command manually and send the output to a logfile, it appears that it's trying to find postgresql's *.conf files in the data directory rather than in /etc/postgresql-9.0. I don't see a way to specify the location of the conf files separate from the data files. How do I proceed? According to: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-09/msg01482.php The normal workaround is to make symlinks and delete them after the pg_upgrade. It appears they might implement a solution, but it isn't in place for 9.1. :( -- -M Rident stolidi verba Latina. -Ovid
