Re: [gentoo-user] linuxtv-dvb-headers gone virtual blocks mythtv overlay
On 02/17/2012 08:48 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:19:33 +0100 Your changes will be overwritten and reverted next time you resync the portage tree and every time thereafter. Editing the ebuild is not the simplest route, it is a vastly more complex route. Instead, put the ebuild in the local overlay where portage knows not to touch it. A local overlay does not require layman. The change was done in the mythtv overlay (/usr/local/mythtv_portage/), would that be overwritten by a resync? I understood that overlay gets updated only when there is a mythtv update upstream. raf
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for a fee?
On 02/16/12 22:47, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 17, 2012 10:13 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com mailto:emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to pay to have an ebuild built. Can anyone recommend a way to get in touch with a good person for the job? - Grant Diego seems to be mad about the same things I am on a regular basis: http://www.flameeyes.eu/hire-me
Re: [gentoo-user] linuxtv-dvb-headers gone virtual blocks mythtv overlay
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:01:36 +0100 Raffaele BELARDI raffaele.bela...@st.com wrote: On 02/17/2012 08:48 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:19:33 +0100 Your changes will be overwritten and reverted next time you resync the portage tree and every time thereafter. Editing the ebuild is not the simplest route, it is a vastly more complex route. Instead, put the ebuild in the local overlay where portage knows not to touch it. A local overlay does not require layman. The change was done in the mythtv overlay (/usr/local/mythtv_portage/), would that be overwritten by a resync? I understood that overlay gets updated only when there is a mythtv update upstream. It will be overwritten with every layman update/resync layman will notice that you have a file that is different from the repo and will revert it, and you cannot stop this happening. It does not depend on whether the remote file has changed, it only depends on you locally having a file that is different to the repo. Seriously, the gentoo docs are full or warning to not do what you did. Use the local overlay, it was designed for exactly this purpose. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] linuxtv-dvb-headers gone virtual blocks mythtv overlay
On 02/17/2012 11:18 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:01:36 +0100 Raffaele BELARDI raffaele.bela...@st.com wrote: The change was done in the mythtv overlay (/usr/local/mythtv_portage/), would that be overwritten by a resync? I understood that overlay gets updated only when there is a mythtv update upstream. It will be overwritten with every layman update/resync layman will notice that you have a file that is different from the repo and will revert it, and you cannot stop this happening. It does not depend on whether the remote file has changed, it only depends on you locally having a file that is different to the repo. Seriously, the gentoo docs are full or warning to not do what you did. Use the local overlay, it was designed for exactly this purpose. I'm probably oversimplifying because I don't know much about overlays. I'm not using layman at all but I am using a local overlay for mythtv. From what I understand the 'overlayed' mythtv ebuild is responsible for the overlay update though a script installed in /etc/portage/postsync.d/ which basically performs a 'git pull'. So unless there is a new git snapshot upstream the modified ebuild will not get overwritten, correct? raf
Re: [gentoo-user] linuxtv-dvb-headers gone virtual blocks mythtv overlay
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:39:24 +0100 Raffaele BELARDI raffaele.bela...@st.com wrote: On 02/17/2012 11:18 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:01:36 +0100 Raffaele BELARDI raffaele.bela...@st.com wrote: The change was done in the mythtv overlay (/usr/local/mythtv_portage/), would that be overwritten by a resync? I understood that overlay gets updated only when there is a mythtv update upstream. It will be overwritten with every layman update/resync layman will notice that you have a file that is different from the repo and will revert it, and you cannot stop this happening. It does not depend on whether the remote file has changed, it only depends on you locally having a file that is different to the repo. Seriously, the gentoo docs are full or warning to not do what you did. Use the local overlay, it was designed for exactly this purpose. I'm probably oversimplifying because I don't know much about overlays. I'm not using layman at all but I am using a local overlay for mythtv. From what I understand the 'overlayed' mythtv ebuild is responsible for the overlay update though a script installed in /etc/portage/postsync.d/ which basically performs a 'git pull'. So unless there is a new git snapshot upstream the modified ebuild will not get overwritten, correct? I have no idea what you are talking about actually. ebuilds do not update themselves, something else does. All an overlay is, is an alternate bunch of ebuilds laid out in the same format as the portage tree. Layman is nothing more than a nice bunch of scripts that automate the install, update and resync aspect of using them. The process you just described makes no sense to me at all unless it is some customization you did yourself. But step back and look at this logically. You have a copy of a file that gets updated from a repo somewhere. But you are also fiddling around with the same file and expecting it to all magically just work without collisions despite having two agents fooling around with it. Does that strike you as a good idea? The sane way to do this is to leave the remote repo alone and let it do it's thing when and how it wants to using layman. You will then always have an ebuild synced to upstream. Copy the ebuild you feel you need to modify to PORTDIR_OVERLAY and make your changes there. Portage will use your customized ebuild in preference to the one from the overlay (due to priority rules) so all is good. When the ebuild in the git repo is updated, the version number will be bumped and portage will then use that one in preference to your local copy (due to version number being higher). If that ebuild doesn't quite work for you yet, copy it to PORTDIR_OVERLAY and make your custom changes there. keep doing this, rinse and repeat, until the upstream repo gets their act together. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)
Am Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:29:40 +0700 schrieb Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info: On Feb 17, 2012 8:16 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Thursday 16 February 2012 04:07:38 Pandu Poluan wrote: I am one of those guys who are against initrd/initramfs :-P Congratulations! The first correct use of one of those who I've seen in several years. If only Americans would speak English! ??? I'm not aware that there can be a 'wrong' usage of one of those who... I think he means one of those who *are* vs. one of those who *is*. (Gosh; this thread is so meta...) Rgds, -- Marc Joliet -- People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't - Bjarne Stroustrup signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)
On Feb 17, 2012 6:10 PM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: Am Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:29:40 +0700 schrieb Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info: On Feb 17, 2012 8:16 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Thursday 16 February 2012 04:07:38 Pandu Poluan wrote: I am one of those guys who are against initrd/initramfs :-P Congratulations! The first correct use of one of those who I've seen in several years. If only Americans would speak English! ??? I'm not aware that there can be a 'wrong' usage of one of those who... I think he means one of those who *are* vs. one of those who *is*. (Gosh; this thread is so meta...) Rgds, Ah, I see... So that proves that Gentoo is indeed a mets-distribution... ... even the mailing list is a meta-mailing list :-D Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] linuxtv-dvb-headers gone virtual blocks mythtv overlay
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:59:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: ebuilds do not update themselves, something else does. All an overlay is, is an alternate bunch of ebuilds laid out in the same format as the portage tree. Layman is nothing more than a nice bunch of scripts that automate the install, update and resync aspect of using them. The process you just described makes no sense to me at all unless it is some customization you did yourself. The MythTV overlay is not serviced by layman. Instead, it includes a script called from /etc/portage/postsync.d/ to update itself after every emerge --sync. But step back and look at this logically. You have a copy of a file that gets updated from a repo somewhere. But you are also fiddling around with the same file and expecting it to all magically just work without collisions despite having two agents fooling around with it. Does that strike you as a good idea? Now that you understand how it works, I hope you can see that your comments still make absolute sense. Basically, there are two types of portage tree, ones you manage yourself and one that are managed remotely and synced to your system. The latter includes the main portage tree, all layman overlays and the MythTV one. Only fiddle with the former. -- Neil Bothwick If you think talk is cheap, try hiring a lawyer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] slim keyboard layout
András Csányi пишет: I have been googling for a while to find the answer for the question how on earth I'm able to set up the default keyboard layout of slim, but I haven't find any answer for this. A few articles say that if the keyboard layout is set up in xorg.conf than it will be okay. It doesn't work. I haven't find any option to set up in /etc/slim.conf file and I also haven't find any information about it in the gentoo documents. So, I would like to know that somebody does know the answer for this question? If you just have broken keys on notebook - there are not keyboard layout: there are forced numlock. But layout taken from xorg.conf. Look to xorg.conf to common keyboard layout and numlock on line in slim.conf. IMHO no other points of keyboard+slim. -- WBR, Dzianis Kahanovich AKA Denis Kaganovich, http://mahatma.bspu.unibel.by/
Re: [gentoo-user] linuxtv-dvb-headers gone virtual blocks mythtv overlay
On 02/17/2012 02:12 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:59:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The MythTV overlay is not serviced by layman. Instead, it includes a script called from /etc/portage/postsync.d/ to update itself after every emerge --sync. Basically, there are two types of portage tree, ones you manage yourself and one that are managed remotely and synced to your system. The latter includes the main portage tree, all layman overlays and the MythTV one. Only fiddle with the former. Much clearer now, thanks to you and Alan. I'll try to do it the proper way. raf
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Alternative to firefox?
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. It sounds like chromium and midori are the most popular here but lots of other suggestions I will look into too. Thanks for posting the question. I found out about midori, thanks to this thread. It passes *MY* acid test. I'm a paying subscriber to both live365.com (internet radio) and NHL Gamecenter Live (NHL Hockey), and they both work fine under midori. Both of them rely heavily on Flash. I think I'm switching to midori. Does anyone know how to beautify it just a bit? Smoother fonts and maybe just a bit of edge roundness? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Alternative to firefox?
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. It sounds like chromium and midori are the most popular here but lots of other suggestions I will look into too. Thanks for posting the question. I found out about midori, thanks to this thread. It passes *MY* acid test. I'm a paying subscriber to both live365.com (internet radio) and NHL Gamecenter Live (NHL Hockey), and they both work fine under midori. Both of them rely heavily on Flash. I think I'm switching to midori. Does anyone know how to beautify it just a bit? Smoother fonts and maybe just a bit of edge roundness? - Grant Ouch, is copy/paste in midori working for anyone? I seem to be bitten by this bug which has no resolution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/707888 - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Alternative to firefox?
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. It sounds like chromium and midori are the most popular here but lots of other suggestions I will look into too. Thanks for posting the question. I found out about midori, thanks to this thread. It passes *MY* acid test. I'm a paying subscriber to both live365.com (internet radio) and NHL Gamecenter Live (NHL Hockey), and they both work fine under midori. Both of them rely heavily on Flash. I think I'm switching to midori. Does anyone know how to beautify it just a bit? Smoother fonts and maybe just a bit of edge roundness? - Grant Ouch, is copy/paste in midori working for anyone? I seem to be bitten by this bug which has no resolution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/707888 - Grant Flash isn't working for me either: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6901904.html Also bookmark support is super-buggy and I have to 'paxctl -m /usr/bin/midori' to avoid crashing on some websites. - Grant
[gentoo-user] Fail to emerge banshee music player / gdk-sharp.
Hi everyone, I love music, and I love banshee (tho about to seek for a command line interface, but nevermind). Now it fails to emerge: http://pastebin.com/sngZLVgj emerge --info gdk-sharp: http://pastebin.com/qSsGXsnT Help!
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:29:40 +0700 schrieb Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info: On Feb 17, 2012 8:16 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Thursday 16 February 2012 04:07:38 Pandu Poluan wrote: I am one of those guys who are against initrd/initramfs :-P Congratulations! The first correct use of one of those who I've seen in several years. If only Americans would speak English! ??? I'm not aware that there can be a 'wrong' usage of one of those who... I think he means one of those who *are* vs. one of those who *is*. Actually, the *is* variant would be (syntactically) correct, too. In that case he would be you know, just one of those guys, who coincidentally is also against initrd/initramfs. Gosh, don't you just love languages and their syntax. :o) -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services. ...llaw eht no rorrim ,rorriM pgpDGYPjY74uo.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] rsync from ext3 to vfat?
Hi, I'm looking for what rsync options I can use to copy existing files on an ext3 file system to an external eSATA drive formatted with vfat. I think I want to match only the name, creation date file size. The eSATA drive needs to be vfat due to limitations of the audio/video device it will be plugged into. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync from ext3 to vfat?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:12:40PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I'm looking for what rsync options I can use to copy existing files on an ext3 file system to an external eSATA drive formatted with vfat. I think I want to match only the name, creation date file size. The eSATA drive needs to be vfat due to limitations of the audio/video device it will be plugged into. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Cheers, Mark FWIW, I routinely backup important directories with rsync from ext3 and ext4 file systems to vfat, with no additional options. The command I use is: sudo rsync -vvvruxi --size-only --exclude-from=/home/rh/rsync-home-excl-list /home/rh/ /mnt/Datastor/Gentoo/ for the home directory. HTH. Terry
[gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?
LOL. Except not really. Am I totally screwed or is there some little-known method for kick-starting an apparently dead HD? Everything was fine until it was rebooted. Multiple reboots always come back to: Invalid Boot diskette- Enter BOOT diskette into A: Cracks about how if the system is old enough to have a floppy drive then it's overdue for a dead HD are appropriate. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Alternative to firefox?
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:37:19 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know how to beautify it just a bit? Smoother fonts and maybe just a bit of edge roundness? On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:51:18 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch, is copy/paste in midori working for anyone? I seem to be bitten by this bug which has no resolution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/707888 On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:42:21 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Flash isn't working for me either: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6901904.html Also bookmark support is super-buggy and I have to 'paxctl -m /usr/bin/midori' to avoid crashing on some websites. And otherwise Midori is a very cool browser. :) Well, to be serious, I'm also annoyed by this not-working Ctrl+C story. Still, as somebody pointed out, one may use Ctrl+Insert or Ctrl+X which seem to work most of the time. As for the interface roundness, as far as I know, Midori may be compiled to use with either GTK2 or GTK3. The GTK2 interface looks more round, I'd say. So, you may try USE=-gtk3 As for the bookmarking, it is also a long story, but the developers seem to work on this. At least, I noticed a couple of changes in bookmarks management for several recent releases. To be short, Midori is indeed a problematic browser, but still it has a nice (not all-inclusive, but exactly 'nice') set of features which make it the most convenient for me at the moment... well, except for that broken Ctrl+C thing... - v...@ukr.net
Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?
On 17 February 2012 20:47, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: LOL. Except not really. Am I totally screwed or is there some little-known method for kick-starting an apparently dead HD? Everything was fine until it was rebooted. Multiple reboots always come back to: Invalid Boot diskette- Enter BOOT diskette into A: Cracks about how if the system is old enough to have a floppy drive then it's overdue for a dead HD are appropriate. This worked for me moderately well recently: http://superuser.com/questions/1078/harddrive-in-the-freezer-ever-work-for-you ... in that I was able to get enough files off it to putter along until I could restore from backups.
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync from ext3 to vfat?
On 02/17/2012 03:12 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm looking for what rsync options I can use to copy existing files on an ext3 file system to an external eSATA drive formatted with vfat. I think I want to match only the name, creation date file size. The eSATA drive needs to be vfat due to limitations of the audio/video device it will be plugged into. rsync works just fine with any normal set of options when using any sort of FAT as a destination. There are, of course, a couple of gotchas: - FAT has limitations on file sizes. - FAT cannot store permissions or ACLs - FAT does not support extended attributes Other than that, though, you should be good. --- Mike -- A man who reasons deliberately, manages it better after studying Logic than he could before, if he is sincere about it and has common sense. --- Carveth Read, “Logic” signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
Am Dienstag, 14. Februar 2012, 12:41:25 schrieb Grant: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? - Grant konqueror or chromium. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Dienstag, 14. Februar 2012, 12:41:25 schrieb Grant: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? - Grant konqueror or chromium. Konqueror 'minimal'? Doesn't it come with all of KDE? ;P (To be fair, I liked Konqueror back when I was using KDE around 2001.) -- :wq
[gentoo-user] PAM and utmp
Hi folks, well, I did some searches on this already, but without success, so I thought I'd ask here. Following issue: I have the strong feeling that my ~x86 Gentoo box no longer seems to record local logins into /var/run/utmp. When I use screen or login via ssh, everything works fine, but I can do millions of local, non-X11 plain vanilla terminal logins without ever seeing anything when running who or w. And I have the feeling that this used to work in the past. Now, what do I know, I tried to trace the problem down a bit. My /var/run/utmp seems absolutely fine structure- and permission-wise. So I had a look at the sources of /bin/login, because I believed that this little guy actually writes to utmp entry when I login. That assumption seemed to be wrong, however, since in cases where PAM is used (which is the case here), /bin/login no longer seems to be responsible for that, but instead it is handled by PAM. At least it looks so in the source. Interestingly, I found a man page for the PAM module pam_lastlog.so on the web which states that this modul would create the utmp entry. The pam_lastlog man page on my local system only mentions /var/log/lastlog and wtmp - nothing about utmp. So ... I have pam_lastlog in use here but it in fact doesn't seem to make a difference utmp-wise. Is it possible that the module *used* to do utmp stuff but no longer does today? Some further searching revealed another PAM module called pam_loginuid, which, according to its man page, sets the loginuid process attribute for the process that was authenticated and should be used for entry point applications like login. Aha. Tried that. Didn't seem to do anything. Now I really wonder who on earth is really responsible to record my login this days. ;-) Am I the only thing seeing this, or can somebody confirm this? Any hints would be greatly appreciated! Thanks and greetings, Nils -- Nils Holland * Ti Systems, Wunstorf-Luthe (Germany) Our Gentoo mirror: http://rush.tisys.org/ (IPv4 + IPv6) Powered by GNU/Linux since 1998
Re: [gentoo-user] Fail to emerge banshee music player / gdk-sharp.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17.02.2012 19:55, imacake/LK wrote: Hi everyone, I love music, and I love banshee (tho about to seek for a command line interface, but nevermind). Now it fails to emerge: http://pastebin.com/sngZLVgj emerge --info gdk-sharp: http://pastebin.com/qSsGXsnT Help! Have you pango-sharp installed? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPPs9QAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYci5IIAIJW3vRsJc1Du92zyOxQe8N4 YsUTL4OX4ITKhFyUZI9xGkWx99VJAg2vClIgEuQcY2EFKl+zXJCBegbjX+ah9T8O RlgOdxg6dBBcEev9RYWMcuqxKV8sF50GygQ+3HXLPp5EuHhdTOm0BMqXTsNTO634 l+m0l7Asj9nCMnTkdj+l9wCtN+TV5pC8LYLWpMJchmBAnuC+DwPcjkyUzSMXwAkG y3/RQ+qdgsuQB/ziN3ocgaTAzf203DRWdwA48Mez0R564+eqtQUYr483pMA2z2Ov AcGBB3ebh51YcyqEuTJOxN7G15pPW+uMhI80cXwH9X4ZoVDJBF1Bq6x/vYyKzWY= =zj3C -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync from ext3 to vfat?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:03 PM, m...@trausch.us m...@trausch.us wrote: rsync works just fine with any normal set of options when using any sort of FAT as a destination. There are, of course, a couple of gotchas: - FAT has limitations on file sizes. - FAT cannot store permissions or ACLs - FAT does not support extended attributes Other than that, though, you should be good. Add FAT considers two filenames that are the same except for case as the same filename to that list. NTFS has the same limitation. -- Manuel A. McLure WW1FA man...@mclure.org http://www.mclure.org ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law, no man may kill a cat. -- H.P. Lovecraft
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync from ext3 to vfat?
On 02/17/2012 05:11 PM, Manuel McLure wrote: Add FAT considers two filenames that are the same except for case as the same filename to that list. NTFS has the same limitation. I had forgotten about that. FAT is always case-sensitive. While it is possible to change the rules slightly for NTFS, there are serious repurcussions if you do. NTFS supports the notion of a POSIX namespace, but if you use it and have multiple files that match according to the Win32 rules, one of them will be inaccessible to applications that use the Win32 namespace. --- Mike -- A man who reasons deliberately, manages it better after studying Logic than he could before, if he is sincere about it and has common sense. --- Carveth Read, “Logic” signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync from ext3 to vfat?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Manuel McLure man...@mclure.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:03 PM, m...@trausch.us m...@trausch.us wrote: rsync works just fine with any normal set of options when using any sort of FAT as a destination. There are, of course, a couple of gotchas: - FAT has limitations on file sizes. - FAT cannot store permissions or ACLs - FAT does not support extended attributes Other than that, though, you should be good. Add FAT considers two filenames that are the same except for case as the same filename to that list. NTFS has the same limitation. No. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/100625 However, ntfs-3g only creates files in the POSIX namespace on NTFS, which means that, depending on the filename, some files you create on Linux won't be able to be opened by apps (such as the Windows shell) that rely on assumptions not violated by the DOS and Win32 namespaces. I ran into that one. . -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:47:36PM -0800, Grant wrote: LOL. Except not really. Am I totally screwed or is there some little-known method for kick-starting an apparently dead HD? Everything was fine until it was rebooted. Multiple reboots always come back to: Invalid Boot diskette- Enter BOOT diskette into A: Cracks about how if the system is old enough to have a floppy drive then it's overdue for a dead HD are appropriate. Diskette is not HDD A: looks too much windows-like. old system you said.. so OK.
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync from ext3 to vfat?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:32 PM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:12:40PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I'm looking for what rsync options I can use to copy existing files on an ext3 file system to an external eSATA drive formatted with vfat. I think I want to match only the name, creation date file size. The eSATA drive needs to be vfat due to limitations of the audio/video device it will be plugged into. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Cheers, Mark FWIW, I routinely backup important directories with rsync from ext3 and ext4 file systems to vfat, with no additional options. The command I use is: sudo rsync -vvvruxi --size-only --exclude-from=/home/rh/rsync-home-excl-list /home/rh/ /mnt/Datastor/Gentoo/ for the home directory. HTH. Terry Thanks Terry. I'm through about 30GB of the 400GB I want to back up. It looks like it's working. The --size-only option was what I needed. (Assuming it completes without any other problems.) Cheers, Mark NOTE: To others discussing the various positives and negatives of Windows file systems please note that I had no choice in the matter. The only thing this piece of equipment accepts on it's USB port is VFAT.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 4
This revision removes a couple of steps in the process, so there's less stuff involved. If only software developers worked that way G. * Busybox stable is now past the buggy version that didn't work with mdev. There is no need to keyword version 1.19.2 * The virtual/dev-manager-0.ebuild has been modified as per my feature request to support an mdev-based system. There is no longer any need for a customized/hacked ebuild in an overlay The usual warnings apply... * this is a beta * use a spare test machine * if you don't follow the instructions correctly, the result might be an unbootable linux * even if you do follow instructions, the result might be an unbootable linux 1) Set up your kernel to support and automount a devtmpfs filesystem at /dev * If you prefer to edit .config directly, set CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y * If you prefer make menuconfig, the route is as shown below. Note that the Autount devtmpfs... option won't appear until you enable Maintain a devtmpf... option. make menuconfig Device Drivers --- Generic Driver Options --- [*] Maintain a devtmpfs filesystem to mount at /dev [*] Automount devtmpfs at /dev, after the kernel mounted the rootfs Once you've made the changes, rebuild the kernel. 2) Set up for emerging busybox. busybox requires the mdev flag in this situation. The static flag is probably also a good idea. In file /etc/portage/package.use add the line sys-apps/busybox static mdev Now, emerge busybox 3) In the bootloader append line, include init=/sbin/linuxrc where the file /sbin/linuxrc consists of *AT LEAST*... #!/bin/busybox ash mount -t proc proc /proc mount -t sysfs sysfs /sys exec /sbin/init This should be enough for most users. If you have an unusual setup, you may need additional stuff in there. If you're using lilo remember to re-run lilo to implement the changes. 4) Remove udev from the services list, and replace it with mdev. Type the following 2 commands at the command line rc-update del udev sysinit rc-update add mdev sysinit 5) reboot to your new kernel. You're now running without using udev. 6) ***THIS STEP IS OPTIONAL*** This is only to alay any suspicion that udev is still in use. * execute the following command at the commandline emerge --unmerge sys-fs/udev * In file /atc/portage/package.mask, append the line sys-fs/udev Create the file if it doesn't already exist. You now have a totally udev-free machine -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Fail to emerge banshee music player / gdk-sharp.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:06:09PM +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17.02.2012 19:55, imacake/LK wrote: Hi everyone, I love music, and I love banshee (tho about to seek for a command line interface, but nevermind). Now it fails to emerge: http://pastebin.com/sngZLVgj emerge --info gdk-sharp: http://pastebin.com/qSsGXsnT Help! Have you pango-sharp installed? Yes. 2.12.10 Maybe some mono runtimes? I didnt have mono installed previously
Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?
LOL. Except not really. Am I totally screwed or is there some little-known method for kick-starting an apparently dead HD? Everything was fine until it was rebooted. Multiple reboots always come back to: Invalid Boot diskette- Enter BOOT diskette into A: Cracks about how if the system is old enough to have a floppy drive then it's overdue for a dead HD are appropriate. Diskette is not HDD A: looks too much windows-like. old system you said.. so OK. I think the BIOS can't find a HD at all so it's trying to boot from the floppy drive which does not contain a floppy disk. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 04:29:48PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote
Then my hardware broke, and I got new one...
I had ***EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM ON A FRESH INSTALL***. In My case
it was a 4+ year old Dell with onboard Intel GPU that was having
problems playing NHL Gamecenter Live streams at the slowest speed. I
solved the problem and sped up everything by doing...
1) emerge system
2) emerge world
3) rebuild the kernel and reboot
A fresh install will have the stage 3 binaries built with
lowest-common-denominator x86 or amd64 code (depending if you chose 32
or 64 bit install). This is necessary in order to allow the install
code to run on all CPUs with the target platform. The downside is that
you lose all the optimisations that make Gentoo scream. Rebuilding the
install as described above builds optimized (i.e. faster) binaries. My
CFLAGS line in /etc/make.conf is...
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
Before rebuilding your system, go over your USE flags to make sure
you've got the maximum optimization. To find out what your CPU
supports, execute the command
grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | head -1
This will define the limits what your system can support. For
instance, mplayer can use the following flags...
waltdnes@d530 ~ $ emerge -pv mplayer
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20110322-r1 USE=X a52 alsa ass
dga encode gif jpeg mmx mmxext mng mp3 opengl png quicktime real rtmp sse sse2
ssse3 theora truetype win32codecs x264 xv xvid xvmc -3dnow -3dnowext -aalib
(-altivec) -amr (-aqua) -bidi -bindist -bl -bluray -bs2b -cddb -cdio
-cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cpuopts -debug -dirac -directfb -doc -dts -dv
-dvb -dvd -dvdnav (-dxr3) -enca (-esd) -faac -faad -fbcon -ftp -ggi -gsm -iconv
-ipv6 -jack -joystick -jpeg2k -ladspa -libcaca -libmpeg2 -lirc -live -lzo -mad
-md5sum -mpg123 -nas -network -nut -openal -osdmenu -oss -pnm -pulseaudio -pvr
-radio -rar -rtc -samba -schroedinger -sdl -shm -speex -tga -toolame -tremor
-twolame -unicode -v4l -vdpau -vidix -vorbis -vpx -xanim -xinerama
-xscreensaver -zoran VIDEO_CARDS=-mga -s3virge -tdfx -vesa 0 kB
Your CPU will obviously support a different set of USE flags than
mine. Check the files /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc for a list of
global flags and /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc for
package-specific flags.
--
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:47:36 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: LOL. Except not really. Am I totally screwed or is there some little-known method for kick-starting an apparently dead HD? Everything was fine until it was rebooted. Multiple reboots always come back to: Invalid Boot diskette- Enter BOOT diskette into A: Cracks about how if the system is old enough to have a floppy drive then it's overdue for a dead HD are appropriate. - Grant It could be the boot sector of the drive that is bad. You should boot off a live CD and see how far you can get with the drive. If you can read it with no problem reinstall grub and see how it does with the boot afterwards. -- Willie Matthews matthews.wil...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs
Paul Hartman writes: I wonder if you copy the movie to /dev/shm first (so disk I/O is not an issue) does it still have problems? At least this can potentially eliminate disk I/O as the cause if something else weird is going on. :) Yes, this helps. As does copying the movie to another partition than that on which I to the I/O with my dd if=/dev/zero of= command. If I dd to this partition, tough, it happens again. For the problem of massive amounts of RAM consumed, that's strange. It's been so for years... but with 16 G of RAM it's no longer an issue. Well, unless this weird problem happened wth parallel emerges on tmpfs. It doesn't happen every time though. Are you compiling debug symbols? That can make the RAM usage (in linking especially) explode... No. I sometimes enable it, but only when I hunt a bug and want to produce better bug reports. And even if the emerge would need very much memory, shouldn't this be taken from the 8 G of caches being used, instead of starting to swap? Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs
Walter Dnes writes:
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 04:29:48PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote
Then my hardware broke, and I got new one...
I had ***EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM ON A FRESH INSTALL***. In My case
it was a 4+ year old Dell with onboard Intel GPU that was having
problems playing NHL Gamecenter Live streams at the slowest speed. I
solved the problem and sped up everything by doing...
1) emerge system
2) emerge world
3) rebuild the kernel and reboot
Good idea, Walter! But not in my case. The system had been set up long
ago, and I did an emerge -e @world in the past already.
A fresh install will have the stage 3 binaries built with
lowest-common-denominator x86 or amd64 code (depending if you chose 32
or 64 bit install). This is necessary in order to allow the install
code to run on all CPUs with the target platform. The downside is that
you lose all the optimisations that make Gentoo scream. Rebuilding the
install as described above builds optimized (i.e. faster) binaries. My
CFLAGS line in /etc/make.conf is...
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
I had those, when I upgraded the hardware:
CFLAGS=-march=k8-sse3 -mfpmath=sse -O2 -pipe
Or something very silimar.
But I also just did an emerge -e @world on the new system, using more
sophisticated CFLAGS. I got them by doing like suggested on [*], using
what -march=natve would do. And adding support for this graphite
stuff. They are:
CFLAGS=-pipe -march=amdfam10 -O2 \
-floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine -floop-block \
-msse -msse2 -msse3 -msse4 -msse4.1 -msse4.2 -m3dnow \
-mcx16 -msahf -maes -mpclmul -mpopcnt -mabm -mlwp -mavx \
--param l1-cache-size=16 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 \
--param l2-cache-size=2048
Before rebuilding your system, go over your USE flags to make sure
you've got the maximum optimization. To find out what your CPU
supports, execute the command
grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | head -1
This will define the limits what your system can support. For
instance, mplayer can use the following flags...
waltdnes@d530 ~ $ emerge -pv mplayer
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20110322-r1 USE=X a52
alsa ass dga encode gif jpeg mmx mmxext mng mp3 opengl png quicktime
real rtmp sse sse2 ssse3 theora truetype win32codecs x264 xv xvid xvmc
-3dnow -3dnowext -aalib (-altivec) -amr (-aqua) -bidi -bindist -bl
-bluray -bs2b -cddb -cdio -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cpuopts
-debug -dirac -directfb -doc -dts -dv -dvb -dvd -dvdnav (-dxr3) -enca
(-esd) -faac -faad -fbcon -ftp -ggi -gsm -iconv -ipv6 -jack -joystick
-jpeg2k -ladspa -libcaca -libmpeg2 -lirc -live -lzo -mad -md5sum
-mpg123 -nas -network -nut -openal -osdmenu -oss -pnm -pulseaudio -pvr
-radio -rar -rtc -samba -schroedinger -sdl -shm -speex -tga -toolame
-tremor -twolame -unicode -v4l -vdpau -vidix -vorbis -vpx -xanim
-xinerama -xscreensaver -zoran VIDEO_CARDS=-mga -s3virge -tdfx -vesa
0 kB
Your CPU will obviously support a different set of USE flags than
mine. Check the files /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc for a list of
global flags and /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc for
package-specific flags.
These are my USE flags for mplayer, they should be fine:
[ebuild R] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20120213 USE=3dnow
3dnowext X a52 aalib alsa ass cdio dga directfb dts dv dvb dvd dvdnav
enca encode faad fbcon ftp ggi gif iconv ipv6 jack jpeg jpeg2k live mad
mmx mmxext mng mp3 nas network openal opengl osdmenu oss png pnm
quicktime rar real rtc samba sdl shm speex sse sse2 ssse3 theora toolame
tremor truetype twolame unicode vorbis x264 xinerama xscreensaver xv xvid
(-altivec) (-aqua) -bidi -bindist -bl -bluray -bs2b -cddb -cdparanoia
-cpudetection -debug -doc (-dxr3) (-esd) -faac -gsm -joystick -ladspa
-libcaca -libmpeg2 -lirc -lzo -md5sum -nut -pulseaudio -pvr -radio -rtmp
-tga -v4l -vdpau (-vidix) (-win32codecs) -xanim -xvmc -zoran
VIDEO_CARDS=-mga -s3virge -tdfx 0 kB
Now I'm bulding a new kernel, using genkernel, and without providing a
custom made .config. Just in case I have some weird setting somewhere
(debug output for SCSI stuff or something like that).
[later...]
So I did. Argh. I thought genkernel was smart enough to generate a
working kernel from scratch, if no existing .config would be given. But
the initramfs could not open my encrypted root partition, until I compiled
XTS and AES directly into the kernel, not only as modules. Genkernel did
not include modules for my NIC, somewhat annoying because I had to wait
several minutes for mysql to start, until I could open a root shell. KDM
was already running at that time, but I only saw a blank screen, because
the radeon stuff was not compiled with KMS. There's also something
wrong with my hardware clock. And iotop does not work, the kernel is
missing CONFIG_TASKSTATS,
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 4
On Feb 18, 2012 6:46 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: This revision removes a couple of steps in the process, so there's less stuff involved. If only software developers worked that way G. * Busybox stable is now past the buggy version that didn't work with mdev. There is no need to keyword version 1.19.2 * The virtual/dev-manager-0.ebuild has been modified as per my feature request to support an mdev-based system. There is no longer any need for a customized/hacked ebuild in an overlay The usual warnings apply... * this is a beta * use a spare test machine * if you don't follow the instructions correctly, the result might be an unbootable linux * even if you do follow instructions, the result might be an unbootable linux 1) Set up your kernel to support and automount a devtmpfs filesystem at /dev * If you prefer to edit .config directly, set CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y * If you prefer make menuconfig, the route is as shown below. Note that the Autount devtmpfs... option won't appear until you enable Maintain a devtmpf... option. make menuconfig Device Drivers --- Generic Driver Options --- [*] Maintain a devtmpfs filesystem to mount at /dev [*] Automount devtmpfs at /dev, after the kernel mounted the rootfs Once you've made the changes, rebuild the kernel. 2) Set up for emerging busybox. busybox requires the mdev flag in this situation. The static flag is probably also a good idea. In file /etc/portage/package.use add the line sys-apps/busybox static mdev Now, emerge busybox 3) In the bootloader append line, include init=/sbin/linuxrc where the file /sbin/linuxrc consists of *AT LEAST*... #!/bin/busybox ash mount -t proc proc /proc mount -t sysfs sysfs /sys exec /sbin/init This should be enough for most users. If you have an unusual setup, you may need additional stuff in there. If you're using lilo remember to re-run lilo to implement the changes. 4) Remove udev from the services list, and replace it with mdev. Type the following 2 commands at the command line rc-update del udev sysinit rc-update add mdev sysinit 5) reboot to your new kernel. You're now running without using udev. 6) ***THIS STEP IS OPTIONAL*** This is only to alay any suspicion that udev is still in use. * execute the following command at the commandline emerge --unmerge sys-fs/udev * In file /atc/portage/package.mask, append the line sys-fs/udev Create the file if it doesn't already exist. You now have a totally udev-free machine Thanks for the update! I've been mdev-ing my servers, and no problems whatsoever until now (touch wood!). For those still on the sidelines re: mdev-for-udev, be aware that progress is happening rapidly with regards to what udev feature is 'vital' for modern systems. Heck, mdev is already perfect for my needs: it can rename devices, fire up a script on hotplug/hotunplug events, load a firmware if told so by the kernel... I suggest interested people should at least lurk in the busybox mailing list. The mdev-for-udev discussion us quite fresh, patches (not bloats) have been submitted... and we have our very own Walt Dnes in that list, proudly waving the Gentoo banner ;-) Rgds,
[gentoo-user] [OT] Still trying to compile hydrogen
Hi, I want to compile hydrogen cleanly. Since the ebuild of hydrogen fails to compile because the system linux3 is not known (which happens even when compiled on a linux-2.6*-booted machine)... I was pointed to patch which fixes this problem, but unfortunately it only opens the way to the next problem. I decided to try to compile hydrogen from vanilla sources and outside the emerge/portage system to better understand wahts happening. When doing so, one has to set QTDIR and then run scons. Hydrogen needs qt4. I set QTDIR to /usr/share/qt4. The compilation fails because QtGui could not be found. QtGui is here /usr/include/qt4/Qt/QtGui which is a file which includes all relevant header file in one go. So I tried to set QTDIR to /usr/include/qt4 but this produces the same problem. I decided to hack the relevant file of hydorgen and hardcoded the path to QtGui directly into the include statement. No comments on this please, it is a bad bad ugly thing to do so. I simply wa curious to see next problem... And I was not dissappointed. This time the QtGui-file could not find the first header file which it includes: #include QtCore/QtCore To hack also /usr/include/qt4/Qt/QtGui is no way. Soeither hydrogens build mechanism does not fit the installation of Qt4 on my Gentoo system (Qt4 was installed via emerge/portage) or it has a bug or the problem sits right in front of my monitor and is currently writing a post to the gentoo-users mailinglist... ;) In the latter case the chance are not small, that I will be able to fix the problem... If I only would know, how ;)) What did I wrong here? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: LOL. Except not really. Am I totally screwed or is there some little-known method for kick-starting an apparently dead HD? Everything was fine until it was rebooted. Multiple reboots always come back to: Invalid Boot diskette- Enter BOOT diskette into A: Cracks about how if the system is old enough to have a floppy drive then it's overdue for a dead HD are appropriate. Things I would try: Go into BIOS and make sure settings are still proper (sometimes it can get wiped out and set to bad values) Make sure BIOS can see the HDD manufacturer and model number etc. If not, power off, re-seat the HDD cables and try again If yes, boot from liveCD and use your favorite tools to examine the drive If the drive is visible, partition table in-tact, then I would try to chroot into your gentoo and reinstall your boot loader like in the installation handbook If drive is not visible, take it out and hook it up to another computer If other computer can read it, maybe your motherboard/controller got fried somehow If other computer can't read it either... buy a new HDD and restore from your most recent backup ;)
[gentoo-user] Marvell 9128 controller and SSD in Gentoo
Hi, I obtained a Samsung 830 128GB SSD, it supports SATA3 interface, but haven't installed it yet. My motherboard has the Marvell 9128 SATA3 chipset. I read a lot of FUD about this chipset, but it is always exclusively from the perspective of Windows users complaining about Marvell drivers, lack of TRIM support in the driver, etc. (Official statement on the capability of the chip itself is covered by NDA, apparently...) The driver should be irrelevant in Linux since I'm just using ahci for everything, but limitations of the chipset or BIOS implementation itself... who knows? I understand the Marvell 9128 chip does not reach the full speed of the SATA3, but it should still be faster than the onboard SATA2 ports even if it's not as fast as the drive's maximum speeds. Lack of TRIM would be bad, though, and any bugs causing disconnects or data corruption obviously would be unacceptable to me. Are any of you using this chipset in Linux with SSD and can tell me if it works properly for you and has working TRIM commands passed through to the SSD? Thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] gptfdisk on livedvd-12.0 ?
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, My download of livedvd-12 is running really slow, despite trying dozens of mirrors (mirrorselect produced poor suggestions) currently. I suggest using bittorrent, it always achieves the best results for me for downloading linux ISOs. I have a 100mbit internet connection here and downloaded the gentoo livedvd in just 5 minutes. http://torrents.gentoo.org/ So, I am trying to find out if gptfdisk is on the latest livedvd or SystemrescueCD. I cannot find the software listing for the livedvd-12. Here is a gentoo page that lists the software (packages) included on livedvd-10 [1] I just mounted the gentoo livedvd ISO and don't see gdisk anywhere on it. Don't know about system rescue CD. I happen to be booted into a Parted Magic disc right now on another machine I'm working on, and it DOES contain gdisk. FYI. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync from ext3 to vfat?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: NOTE: To others discussing the various positives and negatives of Windows file systems please note that I had no choice in the matter. The only thing this piece of equipment accepts on it's USB port is VFAT. If you run into any unreadable files when reading it on the destination equipment, it's possibly due to incompatible filenames. Try mounting vfat with check=strict and possibly changing the codepage to whatever the destination system wants it to be. If you don't use symbols or excessively long file names or extensions I think it should be fine. (I think there's a 256 character full path+filename limit as well on Windows systems)
Re: [gentoo-user] PAM and utmp
On 22:37 Fri 17 Feb , Nils Holland wrote: I have the strong feeling that my ~x86 Gentoo box no longer seems to record local logins into /var/run/utmp. When I use screen or login via ssh, everything works fine, but I can do millions of local, non-X11 plain vanilla terminal logins without ever seeing anything when running who or w. And I have the feeling that this used to work in the past. Replying to myself here, but...: Obviously, /bin/login is responsible for handling utmp entries even when PAM is in used, and the upstream maintainer disabled this in the shadow-4.1.5 release (I could verify that it worked in shadow-4.1.4.3). The issue seems to be known already, however, and should be fixed soon, as can be seen at: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=659957 That's enough for me to know then, I'll just wait for a new release of shadow, which will make it work again. I still thought I'd post this follow-up here, in case anyone else stumbles over this issue. ;-) Greetings, Nils -- Nils Holland * Ti Systems, Wunstorf-Luthe (Germany) Our Gentoo mirror: http://rush.tisys.org/ (IPv4 + IPv6) Powered by GNU/Linux since 1998
