[gentoo-user] Hibernate and a few other things have gone missing

2012-06-23 Thread Andrew Lowe

Hi all,
	I've been doing sort of regular syncs and emerge worlds, every couple 
of days, but not really paying attention to changes as they have 
happened. On the other hand I've read, or rather I think I have read, 
the news and comments/warnings that appear after the emerge world and 
can't remember anything groundbreaking that I had to follow up. Today I 
noticed a few things have disappeared and was wondering if anyone had 
the same problems.


1) Hibernate has disappeared from the Leave option in the KDE menu

2) My Dolphin has lost some mappings to an NTFS disk that I dual boot 
to. On the left hand side of Dolphin there's a panel, Places I think 
it's called, where you can put commonly used dir's. Network mappings I 
have are still there but  the NTFS dir's has gone walkabout.


3) Dolphin no longer automagically places into Places, the thingy 
mentioned above in 2), memory sticks when I insert them. In fact if 
automounting is working shouldn't something appear in the /media dir? 
I'm getting nothing in there.


	Does anyone know of any changes that have happened recently that could 
have caused this or has my machine just decided to be flakey on my.


Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] Hibernate and a few other things have gone missing

2012-06-23 Thread Liam Symonds

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On 23/06/12 08:28, Andrew Lowe wrote:
 Hi all,
 I've been doing sort of regular syncs and emerge worlds, every couple
of days, but not really paying attention to changes as they have
happened. On the other hand I've read, or rather I think I have read,
the news and comments/warnings that appear after the emerge world and
can't remember anything groundbreaking that I had to follow up. Today I
noticed a few things have disappeared and was wondering if anyone had
the same problems.

 1) Hibernate has disappeared from the Leave option in the KDE menu

 2) My Dolphin has lost some mappings to an NTFS disk that I dual boot
to. On the left hand side of Dolphin there's a panel, Places I think
it's called, where you can put commonly used dir's. Network mappings I
have are still there but the NTFS dir's has gone walkabout.

 3) Dolphin no longer automagically places into Places, the thingy
mentioned above in 2), memory sticks when I insert them. In fact if
automounting is working shouldn't something appear in the /media dir?
I'm getting nothing in there.

 Does anyone know of any changes that have happened recently that could
have caused this or has my machine just decided to be flakey on my.

 Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
 Andrew

Hi Andrew,

Could you please copy  paste the output of /etc/fstab please? That
could be the answer about the automounting problem!

Regarding the problem about hibernation, can you use the terminal
command pm-hibernate? If it does not work correctly then you may have
something wrong with the pm-utils package (if that is what Gentoo uses,
I have no idea).

Warm Regards,
Liam.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hibernate and a few other things have gone missing

2012-06-23 Thread Liam Symonds

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On 23/06/12 10:36, Liam Symonds wrote:

 On 23/06/12 08:28, Andrew Lowe wrote:
  Hi all,
  I've been doing sort of regular syncs and emerge worlds, every couple
 of days, but not really paying attention to changes as they have
 happened. On the other hand I've read, or rather I think I have read,
 the news and comments/warnings that appear after the emerge world and
 can't remember anything groundbreaking that I had to follow up. Today I
 noticed a few things have disappeared and was wondering if anyone had
 the same problems.

  1) Hibernate has disappeared from the Leave option in the KDE menu

  2) My Dolphin has lost some mappings to an NTFS disk that I dual boot
 to. On the left hand side of Dolphin there's a panel, Places I think
 it's called, where you can put commonly used dir's. Network mappings I
 have are still there but the NTFS dir's has gone walkabout.

  3) Dolphin no longer automagically places into Places, the thingy
 mentioned above in 2), memory sticks when I insert them. In fact if
 automounting is working shouldn't something appear in the /media dir?
 I'm getting nothing in there.

  Does anyone know of any changes that have happened recently that could
 have caused this or has my machine just decided to be flakey on my.

  Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
  Andrew

 Hi Andrew,

 Could you please copy  paste the output of /etc/fstab please? That
 could be the answer about the automounting problem!

 Regarding the problem about hibernation, can you use the terminal
 command pm-hibernate? If it does not work correctly then you may have
 something wrong with the pm-utils package (if that is what Gentoo uses,
 I have no idea).

 Warm Regards,
 Liam.
Regarding my previous statement if that is what Gentoo uses I meant if
that is what KDE uses, my mistake

- - Liam.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hibernate and a few other things have gone missing

2012-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:28:15 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:

 1) Hibernate has disappeared from the Leave option in the KDE menu

It may or may not help, but I've just upgraded from KDE 4.8.3 to 4.8.4
and the hibernate option is still there.


-- 
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Kludge: (v., adj., or n.) to fix a program in the usual way.


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[gentoo-user] x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.7.0: Use flag udev seems compulsory.

2012-06-23 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo.

I've just emerge --sync'd, and there's a massive amount of X server
updates.  When I try emerge -auND, I get told:

The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
#required by x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.7.0, required by
x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.12[input_devices_evdev]
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.2 udev

.  So I need the udev use flag.  This is somewhat distressing, since
I've been running my system on busybox's mdev for several months.  It's
looking like I'll not be able to continue doing so.

Any suggestions, anybody, how I can now best proceed?

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?

2012-06-23 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-06-22 12:26 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:

OK, I missed that piece. I presumed there would be writes to the hard disk.

Any reason you can't have these guys netboot?


Only that I've never done that before with servers, and my only 
experience with netbooting at all was with LTSP about 10 years ago.


I think having 4 CF cards (mirrored pair of mirrored pairs) will be 
enough redundancy though... ;)


Oh... one other question...

These CF adapters only have 2 screw holes (made to go into laptops, not 
mounted in a cage), so I can't mount them *properly* in the cage... 
anyone know where I can get 2.5 'shell' cases that I could install 
these cards in so I can mount them properly? Right now I have to shove a 
piece of anti-static material in between them and the cage (and each 
other) to prevent them from accidentally touching (yuck!)...




Re: [gentoo-user] x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.7.0: Use flag udev seems compulsory.

2012-06-23 Thread Richard Cox
Try putting the following line in your package.use:

media-libs/mesa gallium g3dvl xa


On 06/23/2012 06:40 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

 Hi, Gentoo.

 I've just emerge --sync'd, and there's a massive amount of X server
 updates.  When I try emerge -auND, I get told:

 The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
 #required by x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.7.0, required by
 x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.12[input_devices_evdev]
 =x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.2 udev
 .  So I need the udev use flag.  This is somewhat distressing, since
 I've been running my system on busybox's mdev for several months.  It's
 looking like I'll not be able to continue doing so.

 Any suggestions, anybody, how I can now best proceed?





Re: [gentoo-user] x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.7.0: Use flag udev seems compulsory.

2012-06-23 Thread Richard Cox
On 06/23/2012 06:40 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
 Hi, Gentoo.

 I've just emerge --sync'd, and there's a massive amount of X server
 updates.  When I try emerge -auND, I get told:

 The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
 #required by x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.7.0, required by
 x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.12[input_devices_evdev]
 =x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.2 udev
 .  So I need the udev use flag.  This is somewhat distressing, since
 I've been running my system on busybox's mdev for several months.  It's
 looking like I'll not be able to continue doing so.

 Any suggestions, anybody, how I can now best proceed?

Sorry, disregard my last message...I haven't had enough coffee yet this
morning.



Re: [gentoo-user] x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.7.0: Use flag udev seems compulsory.

2012-06-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2012, 10:40:23 schrieb Alan Mackenzie:
 Hi, Gentoo.
 
 I've just emerge --sync'd, and there's a massive amount of X server
 updates.  When I try emerge -auND, I get told:
 
 The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
 #required by x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.7.0, required by
 x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.12[input_devices_evdev]
 
 =x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.2 udev
 
 .  So I need the udev use flag.  This is somewhat distressing, since
 I've been running my system on busybox's mdev for several months.  It's
 looking like I'll not be able to continue doing so.
 
 Any suggestions, anybody, how I can now best proceed?

mask xorg-server 1.12.X?

-- 
#163933



[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-23 Thread walt
On 06/16/2012 12:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 FWIW, I recently tried Windows 8 beta (on virtualbox, of course)
 and I found it unusable.  Why?  Because they are rushing to
 catch up with gnome3.  Their new desktop looks very much like
 a smartphone.

 I guess they figure the desktop will be extinct relatively soon
 and their customer base will vanish unless they capture the
 smartphone market.
 
 Or they realized that the old users doesn't really matter, because
 what is important is the younger generation being raised using
 smartphones and tablets, and which play with Wii, Xbox Kinect or PS3
 Move. That's the important market, and the future.
 
 BTW, using GNOME 3 for more than one year in my laptop and desktop,
 and I love it. I also want a tablet with it.

Well, now it becomes clear.  I just read that MS has officially
released Surface, its new Win8-powered tablet.






Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:28:11 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

 protipp: in local.start:
 dmesg  /dmesg.out

Or put log_dmesg=YES into /etc/conf.d/bootmisc, which I think is there
by default anyway.


-- 
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When companies ship Styrofoam, what do they pack it in?


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[gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?

2012-06-23 Thread felix
I need to get a PCI-X SATA card.  Two drives is fine, or 8, even tho I can't 
fit 8 drives in the box.  This is for bulk storage, so I don't mind if it can 
only handle 100 Mhz or even less.  My mainboard can't go over 133 Mhz.  They 
are 64 bit 3.3v slots.

One thing I don't want is RAID; I will be using LVM to roll my own.  But if a 
RAID card can handle dissimilar drives in a non-RAID fashion, that's fine by me.

Running ~amd64.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?

2012-06-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 4:33 PM,  fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 I need to get a PCI-X SATA card.  Two drives is fine, or 8, even tho I can't 
 fit 8 drives in the box.  This is for bulk storage, so I don't mind if it can 
 only handle 100 Mhz or even less.  My mainboard can't go over 133 Mhz.  They 
 are 64 bit 3.3v slots.

 One thing I don't want is RAID; I will be using LVM to roll my own.  But if a 
 RAID card can handle dissimilar drives in a non-RAID fashion, that's fine by 
 me.

 Running ~amd64.

I have a couple MV88SX6081 8-port SATA II PCI-X Controller devices I
picked up from Newegg a couple years back. They work beautifully.

They were marked as RAID cards, but it's software raid, and I only
wanted them as AHCI SATA controllers anyhow. As it happens, they work
in PCI slots as well as PCI-X slots.


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:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Just a heads-up, I think =sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r3 is a stinker.

2012-06-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Dmitry Goncharov
 dgoncha...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 10:52:12PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow. Just wow. This is incredible.

 This is repeatable for me.

 snip
  * The problem occurred while executing the ebuild file named
  * 'glibc-2.14.1-r3.ebuild' located in the '/var/db/pkg/sys-

 snip
 CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -march=core2 -mcx16 -msahf
 --param l1-cache-size=32 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 --param
 l2-cache-size=4096 -mtune=core2 -ggdb3
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

 Can you upgrage to glibc-2.15?

 Sure. It's going to be another full reinstall.

 Forgot to try this. Will do tomorrow.


 Can you tweak you gcc flags to something more conventional and see if the
 problem persists?

 Those CFLAGS should be equivalent to:
 CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -ggdb3 --march=native.

 But I'll try making it just -O2 -pipe --march=native.

 Just an update: Tried CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe --march=native -ggdb3. Same results.


 If you are interested in submitting a patch to the upstream then you can 
 build
 the glibc test suite with your gcc flags and check if the tests pass.

 I do still have a working gentoo laptop I could try this on...but it
 has an i3 proc, as opposed to the core 2 xeon or the phenom 9650. Have
 a link to instructions?

For anyone following or interested, this is now reported as bug
#423149. I'll be tracking progress there, so I have a common place to
keep notes and discoveries as I try to work it out.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423149

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?

2012-06-23 Thread felix
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:05:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
 I have a couple MV88SX6081 8-port SATA II PCI-X Controller devices I
 picked up from Newegg a couple years back. They work beautifully.
 
 They were marked as RAID cards, but it's software raid, and I only
 wanted them as AHCI SATA controllers anyhow. As it happens, they work
 in PCI slots as well as PCI-X slots.

Hmmm ... that's one I bookmarked, but I am curious how they claim 8
port when it only has three connectors?  Newegg's pictures aren't
clear enough for me to figure that out.  Is it two on the back and
three doublt-ports on the front?  How well do they work?  I suppose
must be good enough to recommend it :-)  Do you actually have 8 drives
connected to one?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?

2012-06-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 6:20 PM,  fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:05:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
 I have a couple MV88SX6081 8-port SATA II PCI-X Controller devices I
 picked up from Newegg a couple years back. They work beautifully.

 They were marked as RAID cards, but it's software raid, and I only
 wanted them as AHCI SATA controllers anyhow. As it happens, they work
 in PCI slots as well as PCI-X slots.

 Hmmm ... that's one I bookmarked, but I am curious how they claim 8
 port when it only has three connectors?  Newegg's pictures aren't
 clear enough for me to figure that out.  Is it two on the back and
 three doublt-ports on the front?  How well do they work?  I suppose
 must be good enough to recommend it :-)  Do you actually have 8 drives
 connected to one?

There are 8 ports, but I'm only currently using three. Here's a pic:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28208534@N07/7428312264/

(The big passive heat sink is on the NVidia GeForce 210 in the system.
Neither component has had heat issues in this configuration)

There are three modules on one side of the PCB. Each module has two
SATA ports. There are two modules on the flip side that each have only
one SATA port. So, that's 3x2+2, or 8.

The reason I'm only using 3? This system doesn't have PCI-X, only PCIe
and PCI. So I want as much as reasonable plugged into the mainboard's
SATA ports.

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:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?

2012-06-23 Thread felix
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:32:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:

 There are three modules on one side of the PCB. Each module has two
 SATA ports. There are two modules on the flip side that each have only
 one SATA port. So, that's 3x2+2, or 8.

How easy is it to connect to cables in one of the doubles?

My tower is pretty full, but some of that is 3 SCSI drives, and I may
at some point change all three to a single SSD drive and put in two
more 4T drives.

 The reason I'm only using 3? This system doesn't have PCI-X, only PCIe
 and PCI. So I want as much as reasonable plugged into the mainboard's
 SATA ports.

Why not use the PCIe slots for SATA to get more speed?  I suppose you
could just want bulk where speed is not essential, or they could be full

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?

2012-06-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 6:48 PM,  fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:32:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:

 There are three modules on one side of the PCB. Each module has two
 SATA ports. There are two modules on the flip side that each have only
 one SATA port. So, that's 3x2+2, or 8.

 How easy is it to connect to cables in one of the doubles?

Um, pretty easy? Same as how difficult it might be to plug one into
your motherboard.


 My tower is pretty full, but some of that is 3 SCSI drives, and I may
 at some point change all three to a single SSD drive and put in two
 more 4T drives.

Sure.


 The reason I'm only using 3? This system doesn't have PCI-X, only PCIe
 and PCI. So I want as much as reasonable plugged into the mainboard's
 SATA ports.

 Why not use the PCIe slots for SATA to get more speed?  I suppose you
 could just want bulk where speed is not essential, or they could be full

I didn't have non-GPU PCIe slots when I bought the cards, and I don't
have a PCIe SATA controller. When I bought the cards, I did happen to
have a prescott-based dual-xeon system with a couple PCI-X slots I
wanted to take advantage of. It only took a couple days' having that
machine powered up before I realized I didn't need that powerful of an
electric space heater in my apartment...

The one thing I'd really like to change over what I've got...I'd like
to have the correct-length SATA cables, rather than having plenty of
SATA cables all of worst-case length.

Well, the other thing I'd like to change is use hot-swap bays instead
of the semi-fixed bays I've got. Then I wouldn't need to move cables
around if I need to remove drives. (That got to be a problem earlier
this week.) But that's not the fault of the controller.


-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?

2012-06-23 Thread felix
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 07:00:01PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
  How easy is it to connect to cables in one of the doubles?
..two...

Botched that one!  Well, doesn't matter; I ordered one, and it is what
it is.  I reckon it must be possible, and I don't think I can get that
many drives in the tower.

I did look at another card which has two SATA connectors inside and
two eSata, but I think USB 3 will be better, if I can find a good
PCI-X USB 3 card.  But that's for later, I don't need it yet.

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any recommendations for PCI-X SATA cards?

2012-06-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 7:13 PM,  fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 07:00:01PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
  How easy is it to connect to cables in one of the doubles?
 ..two...

 Botched that one!  Well, doesn't matter; I ordered one, and it is what
 it is.  I reckon it must be possible, and I don't think I can get that
 many drives in the tower.

 I did look at another card which has two SATA connectors inside and
 two eSata, but I think USB 3 will be better, if I can find a good
 PCI-X USB 3 card.  But that's for later, I don't need it yet.

 Thanks.

Any time. :)

-- 
:wq



[gentoo-user] Poor quality of wireless connection

2012-06-23 Thread José Romildo Malaquias
Hello.

I have a notebook with an Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 wireless
card.

In gentoo (kernel 3.4.3-gentoo) and also in Fedora 17 the connection
through it is of poor quality. ping to the router is getting about 50%
packet loss.

With Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows 7 the connection is ok, without packet
loss.

Gentoo, Fedora and Ubuntu are all using the iwlwifi module for the
centrino wireless card.

# lspci -nnv
[...]
08:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6230 
[8086:0091] (rev 34)
   Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6230 AGN [8086:5201]
   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
   Memory at f2d0 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
   Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3
   Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
   Capabilities: [e0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
   Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
   Capabilities: [140] Device Serial Number 88-53-2e-ff-ff-4f-03-76
   Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
   Kernel modules: iwlwifi
[...]

Any clues?