Re: [gentoo-user] gettext missing symlink message

2013-05-13 Thread Samuli Suominen

On 13/05/13 04:57, Walter Dnes wrote:

   I ran into this today while installing Gentoo on my new machine.

making executable: usr/lib64/preloadable_libintl.so
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00mQA Notice: Missing soname symlink(s):
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00m
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00m  usr/lib64/libgnuintl.so.8 - preloadable_libintl.so
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00m


https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=374545 was opened in July of
2011 (YES!!!).  I don't want to bug the developers.  My questions are...

1) does it cause any problems?


no



2) is the appropriate workaround to...

cd /usr/lib64
ln -s preloadable_libintl.so libgnuintl.so.8



no, don't do anything, portage does it for you
ignore the warning



Re: [gentoo-user] gettext missing symlink message

2013-05-13 Thread Samuli Suominen

On 13/05/13 09:19, Samuli Suominen wrote:

On 13/05/13 04:57, Walter Dnes wrote:

   I ran into this today while installing Gentoo on my new machine.

making executable: usr/lib64/preloadable_libintl.so
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00mQA Notice: Missing soname symlink(s):
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00m
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00m  usr/lib64/libgnuintl.so.8 -
preloadable_libintl.so
.[33;01m * .[39;49;00m


https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=374545 was opened in July of
2011 (YES!!!).  I don't want to bug the developers.  My questions are...

1) does it cause any problems?


no



2) is the appropriate workaround to...

cd /usr/lib64
ln -s preloadable_libintl.so libgnuintl.so.8



no, don't do anything, portage does it for you
ignore the warning


err, sorry confused this with another. this warning is really a bug in 
portage, the preloadable library doesn't need to be called as per SONAME 
due to the way it's used in apps





Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice Compile

2013-05-13 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello,

On Sun, 12 May 2013 17:35:06 +0200 Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thus, I recommended you simply install libreoffice-bin

thats not simply, he downgrade much packages and give 
conflict msg without end. When Libreoffice 4 as bin 
is present ok, but actually is older version.

At moment compile libreoffice is running, i hope it
will be run without errors. At moment the Process run
14 hr and 40 minuts.  Power Book :)


Greetings and Thank you.

Silvio



Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/05/2013 23:37, David Relson wrote:
 [1]  The logic goes something like this: it's a compiler, so the code
  it produces must be consistently identical for identical inputs. So,
  the current compiler builds gcc, giving version Y built by version X.
  That instance of gcc in turn builds a gcc, giving version Y built by
  version Y.
 Haven't you left out the third compile?
 
 Let me rephrase the 3 builds.
 
 1) gcc-X builds gcc-Y giving gcc-Y1
 2) gcc-Y1 builds gcc-Y giving gcc-Y2
 3) gcc-Y2 builds gcc-Y giving gcc-Y3
 
 gcc-Y1 and gcc-Y2 are likely to be different (since they were build by
 gcc-X and gcc-Y which are likely to have optimizations).
 
 gcc-Y2 and gcc-Y3 should be identical (since both were built by gcc-Y)
 
  

Yeah, I think you're right. Thanks for that.

Like I said, I'm fuzzy on the details after all these years. My
intention was not to be completely accurate and correct, it was more to
get the general idea across to Dale

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/05/2013 23:53, Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 12/05/2013 23:16, Dale wrote:
 Howdy,

 I been noticing something weird when I upgrade gcc.  Is this normal?

 root@fireball / # genlop -c

  Currently merging 2 out of 5

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 6 seconds.
ETA: 24 minutes and 27 seconds.

  Currently merging 3 out of 5

  * net-misc/curl-7.30.0

current merge time: 7 seconds.
ETA: 18 minutes and 50 seconds.

  Currently merging 2 out of 5

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 7 seconds.
ETA: 21 minutes and 14 seconds.
 root@fireball / #


 I'm not worried about curl.  It just happened to be there.  This is the
 list of packages it is supposed to update:

 root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4:4.5  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
 nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
 (-hardened) (-libssp) -lto -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
 -objc-gc {-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7:4.4  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
 nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
 (-hardened) (-libssp) -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc
 {-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
 [ebuild U  ] net-misc/curl-7.30.0 [7.29.0-r1] USE=ipv6 ssl threads
 -adns -idn -kerberos -ldap -metalink -rtmp -ssh -static-libs {-test}
 CURL_SSL=openssl -axtls -cyassl -gnutls -nss -polarssl 0 kB
 [ebuild U  ] app-misc/tmux-1.8 [1.6] USE=-vim-syntax 0 kB
 [ebuild U ~] kde-base/kdelibs-4.10.3-r2:4 [4.10.3:4] USE=3dnow alsa
 bzip2 fam handbook jpeg2k lzma mmx nls opengl (policykit)
 semantic-desktop spell sse sse2 ssl udev udisks upower zeroconf -acl
 (-altivec) (-aqua) -debug -doc -kerberos -openexr {-test} 0 kB

 Total: 5 packages (3 upgrades, 2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB

 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y

 I noticed this one or twice before.  It is compiling the same compiler
 version twice when it should be upgrading/recompiling two *different*
 versions.  I read before that gcc compiles three times or something but
 the thing is, it can compile for HOURS and never finish.  Usually I stop
 it and restart emerge and it compiles as it should, one for each version
 and finishes as it should time wise.  I once started the upgrade and
 went to take a nap.  I woke up around 5 or 6 hours later to find gcc
 compiling twice on the same version.  Even libreoffice only takes a hour
 or so. 

 Anyone else see this before?   Now to go stop this one and get it to
 update right and not take all week. 
 What have you got in world for gcc?
 
 
 root@fireball / # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep gcc
 sys-devel/gcc:4.4
 sys-devel/gcc:4.5
 root@fireball / #
 
 I generally keep two versions.  Got bit once.  Long time ago but still,
 no fun to fix.
 
 
 What's in make.conf?
 
 This is the USE line.  I'm not sure if you want all the rest.  Rest is
 normal stuff, pretty much.  lol
 
 USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 acpi alsa aml apng automount avahi \
  bash-completion bzip2 -cairo cddb cdr chroot cleartype clucene
 corefonts \
  cups curl dbus declarative dri dvd dvdr embedded escreen esd \
  exif faac ffmpeg fontconfig -fortran gif gimp gkrellm gphoto2 \
  gtk hbci hddtemp iostats ipv6 java javascript jbig jpeg2k \
  justify kde kmod libwww logrotate loop-aes lvm lzma \
  mdnsresponder-compat melt mmx mmxext mng mp3 mplayer mysql nls
 nsplugin \
  nvidia offensive ofx opengl openrc parport pdf pdfimport \
  policykit ppds ppp qt4 sasl seamonkey semantic-desktop sift smp \
  sse sse2 sse4a syslog tcl threads tiff tk truetype type1 udev \
  usb vcd webkit win32codecs wma wmf yahoo zeroconf -acl \
  -bluetooth -branding -doc -dts -eds -fftw -gcj -gnome -jabber \
  -jingle -ldap -musepack -openldap -oss -otr sqlite -sqlite3 -theora \
  -v41 -xulrunner -h -crypt -cxx
 
 

 gcc's build system does cause gcc tro be built three times[1], but
 that's internal to gcc and has nothing to do with portage. There should
 still only be one emerge for a SLOT. If it's doing the same package
 twice, then the files in /var/tmp/portage are liable to get continually
 clobbered and who knows what will happen.


 [1]  The logic goes something like this: it's a compiler, so the code it
 produces must be consistently identical for identical inputs. So, the
 current compiler builds gcc, giving version Y built by version X. That
 instance of gcc in turn builds a gcc, giving version Y built by version Y.

 Now you should have two copies of the same version of gcc, and they
 should be identical, plus the output code must also be identical. The
 gcc builds system checks for this by actually doing compiles and
 comparing the results. I've gotten a bit hazy on what specific bits
 actually do what, but that's the general 

[gentoo-user] Anybody have a Gentoo KVM image to share?

2013-05-13 Thread Alexander Berntsen
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If anyone have a Gentoo KVM image (preferably 10G or less) to share,
please email the details on how to obtain a copy. I will be using it
for development, so the simpler it is the better, with working networking.

The reason I'm asking here is because I'm lazy and don't want to do
work that somebody else has already done. Hopefully sharing it here
will save someone else time as well, so please reply to the list and
CC me (in case I forget to check the archives, as I don't subscribe to
this list).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 I'm not sure what to make of this. portage lists the packages
 correctly and has the SLOTs correct, but emerge seems to be launched
 incorrectly. It's all very odd, and looks like bug-report material. To
 be useful you are going to need data. Could you quickpkg the current
 and previous versions of both SLOTs? That will make it easy to upgrade
 and downgrade packages, then run emerge world over and over to see
 what it does without it taking 40 minutes each time. 

Well, here is this:

[-P-] [  ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.11.63:0
[-P-] [  ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha173:0
[IP-] [  ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha174:0

This is the portage update info.  I use genlop -t to do this.  I know
there is a better way but can't remember the command.  lol  I think it
was one of the q thingys. 

 Fri Apr  5 12:49:29 2013  sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha171
   merge time: 27 seconds.

 Sat Apr  6 11:00:10 2013  sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha171
   merge time: 26 seconds.

 Mon Apr 15 08:33:49 2013  sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha173
   merge time: 31 seconds.

 Mon May  6 22:36:15 2013  sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha174
   merge time: 30 seconds.


Based on that, I would say it started about the time *173 hit.  I can't
go back to the *171 since it is no longer in the tree. 

I'm not sure I know enough about debugging to help much but it sure is
weird.  Should have known something weird like this would hit me.  :/

I'm sort of pretty active on this thing right now since I do some
volunteer mod work on a site.  I'd rather not get myself to a spot where
my rig aini't working.  I'm not even doing upgrades like I used to. 
Well, not as often anyway.  I just have to plan stuff to make sure I'm
up and running. 

I checked for roach reports and didn't see this reported anywhere.  I
wonder if a USE flag is triggering this?  This is interesting:

root@fireball / # emerge -pv =sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7 =sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4
=sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3:4.6  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx* -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran* -gcj
-graphite (-hardened) (-libssp) -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
-objc-gc {-test} -vanilla 24 kB
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7:4.4  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
(-hardened) (-libssp) -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc
{-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4:4.5  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
(-hardened) (-libssp) -lto -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
-objc-gc {-test} -vanilla 0 kB

Total: 3 packages (3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 24 kB

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

sys-devel/gcc:4.6

  (sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
(no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)

  (sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
sys-devel/gcc[fortran,openmp?] required by
(virtual/fortran-0::gentoo, installed)
=sys-devel/gcc-4.2[cxx] required by
(sci-geosciences/googleearth-6.2.2.6613::gentoo, installed)


!!! Enabling --newuse and --update might solve this conflict.
!!! If not, it might help emerge to give a more specific suggestion.

root@fireball / #

I may need to make sense of this now.  May not be the problem but
still.  I don't have anything related to gcc in package.use either.  I'm
not sure about the USE flag being changed on two but not the other. 
When I logoff as mod, I'm going to try to recompile that older version. 

Thoughts?  Could that be the cause?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!




Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

Alan McKinnon wrote:
 I'm not sure what to make of this. portage lists the packages
 correctly and has the SLOTs correct, but emerge seems to be launched
 incorrectly. It's all very odd, and looks like bug-report material.
To
 be useful you are going to need data. Could you quickpkg the current
 and previous versions of both SLOTs? That will make it easy to
upgrade
 and downgrade packages, then run emerge world over and over to see
 what it does without it taking 40 minutes each time. 

Well, here is this:

[-P-] [  ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.11.63:0
[-P-] [  ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha173:0
[IP-] [  ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha174:0

This is the portage update info.  I use genlop -t to do this.  I know
there is a better way but can't remember the command.  lol  I think it
was one of the q thingys. 

 Fri Apr  5 12:49:29 2013  sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha171
   merge time: 27 seconds.

 Sat Apr  6 11:00:10 2013  sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha171
   merge time: 26 seconds.

 Mon Apr 15 08:33:49 2013  sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha173
   merge time: 31 seconds.

 Mon May  6 22:36:15 2013  sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha174
   merge time: 30 seconds.


Based on that, I would say it started about the time *173 hit.  I can't
go back to the *171 since it is no longer in the tree. 

I'm not sure I know enough about debugging to help much but it sure is
weird.  Should have known something weird like this would hit me.  :/

I'm sort of pretty active on this thing right now since I do some
volunteer mod work on a site.  I'd rather not get myself to a spot
where
my rig aini't working.  I'm not even doing upgrades like I used to. 
Well, not as often anyway.  I just have to plan stuff to make sure I'm
up and running. 

I checked for roach reports and didn't see this reported anywhere.  I
wonder if a USE flag is triggering this?  This is interesting:

root@fireball / # emerge -pv =sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7 =sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4
=sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3:4.6  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx* -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran* -gcj
-graphite (-hardened) (-libssp) -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
-objc-gc {-test} -vanilla 24 kB
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7:4.4  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
(-hardened) (-libssp) -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc
{-test} -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4:4.5  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib)
nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -cxx -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran -gcj
(-hardened) (-libssp) -lto -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
-objc-gc {-test} -vanilla 0 kB

Total: 3 packages (3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 24 kB

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

sys-devel/gcc:4.6

 (sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
(no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)

  (sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
sys-devel/gcc[fortran,openmp?] required by
(virtual/fortran-0::gentoo, installed)
=sys-devel/gcc-4.2[cxx] required by
(sci-geosciences/googleearth-6.2.2.6613::gentoo, installed)


!!! Enabling --newuse and --update might solve this conflict.
!!! If not, it might help emerge to give a more specific suggestion.

root@fireball / #

I may need to make sense of this now.  May not be the problem but
still.  I don't have anything related to gcc in package.use either. 
I'm
not sure about the USE flag being changed on two but not the other. 
When I logoff as mod, I'm going to try to recompile that older version.


Thoughts?  Could that be the cause?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood
or how you interpreted my words!

Dale.

My thoughts: enable the 'multislot' useflag for gcc.
Portage is seeing all three as being in the same slot...

--
Joost
-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote:
 Dale. My thoughts: enable the 'multislot' useflag for gcc. Portage is
 seeing all three as being in the same slot... -- Joost 

Now that started something there.  Nifty.

root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U  ] app-misc/tmux-1.8 [1.6] USE=-vim-syntax 0 kB
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3:4.6  USE=cxx fortran gtk mudflap
(multilib) multislot* nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -doc (-fixed-point)
-gcj -graphite (-hardened) (-libssp) -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
-objc-gc {-test} -vanilla 24 kB
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4:4.5  USE=cxx* fortran* gtk mudflap
(multilib) multislot* nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -doc (-fixed-point)
-gcj (-hardened) (-libssp) -lto -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc
{-test} -vanilla 0 kB
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7:4.4  USE=cxx* fortran* gtk mudflap
(multilib) multislot* nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -doc (-fixed-point)
-gcj (-hardened) (-libssp) -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc {-test}
-vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB

Total: 4 packages (1 upgrade, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 24 kB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]


To get to that point, I had to add the USE flag you mentioned and then I
got more understandable errors.  I had to make the following change to
my package.use file:

sys-devel/gcc multislot cxx fortran
media-libs/flac cxx

The multislot addition then told me to add cxx and fortran.  Then that
lead to the one for flac.  I'm going to add that to make.conf and just
see what changes.  I TRY to keep my USE flags in make.conf when I can. 

Since this is plan text and I can't type it bigger like if it was html. 
THANK YOU  

Dale

:-)  :-) 

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!




[gentoo-user] gnome not working

2013-05-13 Thread covici
When I start gdm, I get a message on the screen which says oh no,
something has gone wrong.  The log file is at
http://pastebin.com/qwNE7ee6   -- I would appreciate any help.

I am running gentoo testing with the 3.8 unmasked.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Dale
Dale wrote:
 J. Roeleveld wrote:
 Dale. My thoughts: enable the 'multislot' useflag for gcc. Portage is
 seeing all three as being in the same slot... -- Joost 
 Now that started something there.  Nifty.

 root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild U  ] app-misc/tmux-1.8 [1.6] USE=-vim-syntax 0 kB
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3:4.6  USE=cxx fortran gtk mudflap
 (multilib) multislot* nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -doc (-fixed-point)
 -gcj -graphite (-hardened) (-libssp) -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
 -objc-gc {-test} -vanilla 24 kB
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4:4.5  USE=cxx* fortran* gtk mudflap
 (multilib) multislot* nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -doc (-fixed-point)
 -gcj (-hardened) (-libssp) -lto -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc
 {-test} -vanilla 0 kB
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7:4.4  USE=cxx* fortran* gtk mudflap
 (multilib) multislot* nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -doc (-fixed-point)
 -gcj (-hardened) (-libssp) -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc {-test}
 -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB

 Total: 4 packages (1 upgrade, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 24 kB

 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]


 To get to that point, I had to add the USE flag you mentioned and then I
 got more understandable errors.  I had to make the following change to
 my package.use file:

 sys-devel/gcc multislot cxx fortran
 media-libs/flac cxx

 The multislot addition then told me to add cxx and fortran.  Then that
 lead to the one for flac.  I'm going to add that to make.conf and just
 see what changes.  I TRY to keep my USE flags in make.conf when I can. 

 Since this is plan text and I can't type it bigger like if it was html. 
 THANK YOU  

 Dale

 :-)  :-) 



Well, after waiting for it to finish, I get this now:

root@fireball / # genlop -c

 Currently merging 4 out of 4

 * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

   current merge time: 6 minutes and 57 seconds.
   ETA: 17 minutes and 2 seconds.

 Currently merging 4 out of 4

 * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

   current merge time: 6 minutes and 58 seconds.
   ETA: 17 minutes and 1 second.
root@fireball / #

So there it is compiling the same package version twice, again.  Going
to kill it since it will sit there and compile for hours if I don't.  I
also found out I am not the only one having issues doing a ctrl c to
stop emerge too.  They need some Raid on that problem. 

Open to new ideas.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!




Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:16, Dale wrote:
 Dale wrote:
 J. Roeleveld wrote:
 Dale. My thoughts: enable the 'multislot' useflag for gcc. Portage is
 seeing all three as being in the same slot... -- Joost
 Now that started something there.  Nifty.

 root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild U  ] app-misc/tmux-1.8 [1.6] USE=-vim-syntax 0 kB
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3:4.6  USE=cxx fortran gtk mudflap
 (multilib) multislot* nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -doc (-fixed-point)
 -gcj -graphite (-hardened) (-libssp) -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++
 -objc-gc {-test} -vanilla 24 kB
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4:4.5  USE=cxx* fortran* gtk mudflap
 (multilib) multislot* nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -doc (-fixed-point)
 -gcj (-hardened) (-libssp) -lto -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc
 {-test} -vanilla 0 kB
 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7:4.4  USE=cxx* fortran* gtk mudflap
 (multilib) multislot* nls nptl openmp (-altivec) -doc (-fixed-point)
 -gcj (-hardened) (-libssp) -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc {-test}
 -vanilla (-graphite%) 0 kB

 Total: 4 packages (1 upgrade, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 24 kB

 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]


 To get to that point, I had to add the USE flag you mentioned and then I
 got more understandable errors.  I had to make the following change to
 my package.use file:

 sys-devel/gcc multislot cxx fortran
 media-libs/flac cxx

 The multislot addition then told me to add cxx and fortran.  Then that
 lead to the one for flac.  I'm going to add that to make.conf and just
 see what changes.  I TRY to keep my USE flags in make.conf when I can.

I try to keep the USE-flags out of make.conf as much as possible.
Some packages have multislot where I don't necessarily want it enabled.

 Since this is plan text and I can't type it bigger like if it was html.
 THANK YOU 

 Dale

 :-)  :-)



 Well, after waiting for it to finish, I get this now:

 root@fireball / # genlop -c

  Currently merging 4 out of 4

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 6 minutes and 57 seconds.
ETA: 17 minutes and 2 seconds.

  Currently merging 4 out of 4

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 6 minutes and 58 seconds.
ETA: 17 minutes and 1 second.
 root@fireball / #

 So there it is compiling the same package version twice, again.  Going
 to kill it since it will sit there and compile for hours if I don't.  I
 also found out I am not the only one having issues doing a ctrl c to
 stop emerge too.  They need some Raid on that problem.

 Open to new ideas.

Just a quick question, are you certain it is doing both simultaneously?
It could also be a bug in genlop?

I always generate the binary packages, which means I don't actually need
to keep older GCC-versions. I can always unpack the package using tar :)

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 13 May 2013 13:21:37 +0200
schrieb J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org:

 Just a quick question, are you certain it is doing both simultaneously?
 It could also be a bug in genlop?

I was thinking that, too. Dale, I would suggest you check the contents
of /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/ (maybe clean it up first before running emerge
again so that previously failed compiles don't confuse us) and see what versions
of gcc are listed there.

Of course, there is still a bug somewhere, since as you say the compiles go on
indefinitely. This should just help limit the scope of whatever is happening.

HTH
-- 
Marc Joliet
--
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don't - Bjarne Stroustrup


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2013-05-13 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote:
 I try to keep the USE-flags out of make.conf as much as possible.
 Some packages have multislot where I don't necessarily want it enabled.

It turned into a USE flag nightmare so I used package.use.  Sometimes it
just don't work out since a few packages gets into a world class
wrestling match.  I usually try but don't sweat it.




 Well, after waiting for it to finish, I get this now:

 root@fireball / # genlop -c

  Currently merging 4 out of 4

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 6 minutes and 57 seconds.
ETA: 17 minutes and 2 seconds.

  Currently merging 4 out of 4

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 6 minutes and 58 seconds.
ETA: 17 minutes and 1 second.
 root@fireball / #

 So there it is compiling the same package version twice, again.  Going
 to kill it since it will sit there and compile for hours if I don't.  I
 also found out I am not the only one having issues doing a ctrl c to
 stop emerge too.  They need some Raid on that problem.

 Open to new ideas.
 Just a quick question, are you certain it is doing both simultaneously?
 It could also be a bug in genlop?

 I always generate the binary packages, which means I don't actually need
 to keep older GCC-versions. I can always unpack the package using tar :)

 --
 Joost




I have it set to save a tarball here but I'd have to look up how to
rescue myself if I did screw up.  To answer your question, I decided to
just let the stupid thing sit there and compile.  After a while, I got this:

root@fireball / # genlop -c

 Currently merging 4 out of 4

 * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

   current merge time: 25 minutes and 17 seconds.
   ETA: any time now.
root@fireball / # 

So, one of the compiles finished.  That is a improvement at least.  I
just checked again and it is finished with them all and I got this for
the end of emerge:

Total: 4 packages (1 upgrade, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 24 kB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y
 Verifying ebuild manifests
 Emerging (1 of 4) app-misc/tmux-1.8
 Emerging (2 of 4) sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3
 Installing (1 of 4) app-misc/tmux-1.8
 Installing (2 of 4) sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3
 Emerging (3 of 4) sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4
 Emerging (4 of 4) sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7
 Installing (4 of 4) sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7
 Installing (3 of 4) sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4
 Jobs: 4 of 4 complete   Load avg: 7.6, 13.4,
14.7
 Auto-cleaning packages...

 No outdated packages were found on your system.

 * Regenerating GNU info directory index...
 * Processed 7 info files.
 * After world updates, it is important to remove obsolete packages with
 * emerge --depclean. Refer to `man emerge` for more information.
root@fireball / #

I'm going to say this tho, it did not have time to compile the last gcc
even tho I'm sure it did.  Your mention of a genlop error may be right. 
I bet genlop is reporting the wrong version on one of them somehow. 

To add this in case I didn't mention it.  One time before, gcc compiled
for like 5 or 6 hours while I took a nap.  I can compile LOo several
times in that time frame.  Gcc never takes more than 30 minutes or so,
usually around 20 or so.  I have a 4 core CPU running at I think 3.2Ghz
and 16Gbs of ram with portages work directory on tmpfs.

This is weird.  May look into a genlop change, up to a unstable one or
back to a older version.  See if that helps.  Got to figure out how to
force a upgrade tho.  ;-)

Thanks.  At least I seem to have a clean upgrade now. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Dale
Marc Joliet wrote:
 Am Mon, 13 May 2013 13:21:37 +0200
 schrieb J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org:

 Just a quick question, are you certain it is doing both simultaneously?
 It could also be a bug in genlop?

 I was thinking that, too. Dale, I would suggest you check the contents
 of /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/ (maybe clean it up first before running
emerge
 again so that previously failed compiles don't confuse us) and see
what versions
 of gcc are listed there.

 Of course, there is still a bug somewhere, since as you say the
compiles go on
 indefinitely. This should just help limit the scope of whatever is
happening.

 HTH


It could very well be genlop.  I just sent a reply to Joost.  I checked
portages work directory, just a old failed memtest thing from earlier. 
Nothing there about gcc at all.  I have that on tmpfs so it cleans
itself when I reboot.  I rebooted yesterday I think.  Spring blow of the
dust.

Makes me wonder about genlop but at least it finished this time.  Maybe
USE flag caused the infinite compile and genlop just needs some Raid.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

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how you interpreted my words!



Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have a Gentoo KVM image to share?

2013-05-13 Thread Michael Mol
On 05/13/2013 03:36 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
 If anyone have a Gentoo KVM image (preferably 10G or less) to share,
 please email the details on how to obtain a copy. I will be using it
 for development, so the simpler it is the better, with working networking.
 
 The reason I'm asking here is because I'm lazy and don't want to do
 work that somebody else has already done. Hopefully sharing it here
 will save someone else time as well, so please reply to the list and
 CC me (in case I forget to check the archives, as I don't subscribe to
 this list).

I wrote a Gentoo install script last spring that I was beginning to
update for building KVM guests a couple weeks ago (until my VM host
hardware up began spontaneously rebooting on me without leaving a trace
in hardware logs...).

I can have another go at it. Any preference for disk size or layout?
Running the script involves (obviously) a great deal of compiling, but
it results in a fully up-to-date system CFLAGS and USE settings as
specified up front...

https://github.com/mikemol/gentoo-install



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2013-05-13 Thread Alexander Berntsen
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On 13/05/13 14:29, Michael Mol wrote:
 Running the script involves (obviously) a great deal of compiling,
 but it results in a fully up-to-date system CFLAGS and USE settings
 as specified up front...
I'm looking for a more minimal thing that's 5-10G and comes without X
or any other heavy software. I will be using it for OpenRC testing and
similar things, so a big and complicated image is not desirable. I'd
like networking to work though.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have a Gentoo KVM image to share?

2013-05-13 Thread Michael Mol
On 05/13/2013 08:32 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
 On 13/05/13 14:29, Michael Mol wrote:
 Running the script involves (obviously) a great deal of compiling,
 but it results in a fully up-to-date system CFLAGS and USE settings
 as specified up front...
 I'm looking for a more minimal thing that's 5-10G and comes without X
 or any other heavy software. I will be using it for OpenRC testing and
 similar things, so a big and complicated image is not desirable. I'd
 like networking to work though.
 

Hm. I've never tried building a Gentoo system that...small. Looks
doable, though.

Uncomplicated USE flags are no sweat; a lot of the machinery of the
script is there to cope with quirks of updates involving large sets of
USE flags.

Minimal networking should be no sweat; I'll just enable everything KVM
supports in the kernel configuration. How *much* networking support do
you want, though? Do you need anything more beyond basic layer 3
(IPv4/IPv6) autoconfiguration (DHCP, RAs and IPv4/IPV6 LL), or do you
want netfilter?



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2013-05-13 Thread Alexander Berntsen
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On 13/05/13 14:41, Michael Mol wrote:
 Do you need anything more beyond basic layer [stuff]
No.

Thanks for looking into this. Much appreciated.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:43, Dale wrote:
 J. Roeleveld wrote:
 I try to keep the USE-flags out of make.conf as much as possible.
 Some packages have multislot where I don't necessarily want it
 enabled.

 It turned into a USE flag nightmare so I used package.use.  Sometimes it
 just don't work out since a few packages gets into a world class
 wrestling match.  I usually try but don't sweat it.

My make.conf USE-variable is really small, it's all in package.use/... :)

 Well, after waiting for it to finish, I get this now:

 root@fireball / # genlop -c

  Currently merging 4 out of 4

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 6 minutes and 57 seconds.
ETA: 17 minutes and 2 seconds.

  Currently merging 4 out of 4

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 6 minutes and 58 seconds.
ETA: 17 minutes and 1 second.
 root@fireball / #

 So there it is compiling the same package version twice, again.  Going
 to kill it since it will sit there and compile for hours if I don't.  I
 also found out I am not the only one having issues doing a ctrl c to
 stop emerge too.  They need some Raid on that problem.

 Open to new ideas.
 Just a quick question, are you certain it is doing both simultaneously?
 It could also be a bug in genlop?

 I always generate the binary packages, which means I don't actually need
 to keep older GCC-versions. I can always unpack the package using tar
 :)

 --
 Joost




 I have it set to save a tarball here but I'd have to look up how to
 rescue myself if I did screw up.

To rescue yourself using a binpackage:
# cd /
# tar -xvjpf ...path-to-binpackage-including-package...

After that, I would suggest a emerge -vek world :)

  To answer your question, I decided to
 just let the stupid thing sit there and compile.  After a while, I got
 this:

 root@fireball / # genlop -c

  Currently merging 4 out of 4

  * sys-devel/gcc-4.4.7

current merge time: 25 minutes and 17 seconds.
ETA: any time now.
 root@fireball / #

 So, one of the compiles finished.  That is a improvement at least.  I
 just checked again and it is finished with them all and I got this for
 the end of emerge:

 Total: 4 packages (1 upgrade, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 24 kB

 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y

SNIPPED

 I'm going to say this tho, it did not have time to compile the last gcc
 even tho I'm sure it did.  Your mention of a genlop error may be right.
 I bet genlop is reporting the wrong version on one of them somehow.

I wonder if genlop is noticing there are 2 GCC-compiles running, but
picks the most current version for both, rather then the correct version
for each emerge?

 To add this in case I didn't mention it.  One time before, gcc compiled
 for like 5 or 6 hours while I took a nap.  I can compile LOo several
 times in that time frame.  Gcc never takes more than 30 minutes or so,
 usually around 20 or so.

That depends on the USE-flags, I think.
GCC on my old system always took a while, new systems (with also new
versions) seem to be a lot faster.
Thing is, I tend to build packages for all the machines in a single VM and
then install those when I have a current set.
That VM tends to be started and then I just leave it till I come back from
work the next day.

  I have a 4 core CPU running at I think 3.2Ghz
 and 16Gbs of ram with portages work directory on tmpfs.

 This is weird.  May look into a genlop change, up to a unstable one or
 back to a older version.  See if that helps.  Got to figure out how to
 force a upgrade tho.  ;-)

 Thanks.  At least I seem to have a clean upgrade now.

You might already had :)

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-05-13 Thread Alex Schuster
Walter Dnes wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:12:56AM +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote

   Im not a gnome user as of yet, but I can tell you that the day is
   coming (Gnome 3.8 I believe) when gnome will not work without PA,
   so you will have to install it if you want newer Gnome.
  
  That's true, gnome3.8 will require you to install pulseaudio-2
 
   From a logic chapter in a highschool math text, the contrapositive
 version of this is that removing pulseaudio will require removing gnome.

I don't use it much, but I have Gnome installed, so I can play around
with it if I like. Whenever PulseAudio gets updated, I manually
rename /usr/bin/pulseaudio. I was never able to configure it, despite
some help from this list in the past, I think my problem is that my
internal sound card has two devices, and the HDMI one is default. For
ALSA I was able to switch them, with PulseAudio I had no success.

Sound behaviour is very erratic, and killing the pulseaudio process (or
not enabling it to start at all) seems to help. Although it still happens
that Amarok or Flash do not play sound, even though the test sound works
fine in the Phonon setup.

Quite annoying, but these days I have no time for that any more :-(

Alex



Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 13 May 2013 14:05:24 J. Roeleveld wrote:

 I wonder if genlop is noticing there are 2 GCC-compiles running, but
 picks the most current version for both, rather then the correct version
 for each emerge?

That rings a bell. I think I spotted something of the sort several months 
ago. Don't remember which package though.

Is there an easy way to find what packages I have several versions of?

-- 
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have a Gentoo KVM image to share?

2013-05-13 Thread Michael Mair-Keimberger
Hi,

I can give you my minimal gentoo vm(s). It's a stable gentoo minimal system 
with following aditional software installed (copied from world file):
app-editors/nano
app-misc/screen
app-portage/gentoolkit
dev-util/lafilefixer
net-fs/nfs-utils
net-misc/dhcpcd
net-misc/ntp
sys-apps/portage
sys-boot/grub-static
sys-devel/libtool
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
sys-power/acpid

The vm has a 50gb harddisk, but the compressed file (qcow2) has ~3gb 
(/usr/portage/* stuff deletetd)
The system is pretty much up-to-date and i have both 32bit and 64bit versions.

However, you need the virtio drivers on the host, because i'm using those 
drivers for the harddisk and network.

Uploading it somewhere shouldn't be a problem but it will take quite some time 
since my upload speed is really slow ;)

mike

On Monday 13 May 2013 09:36:35 Alexander Berntsen wrote:
 If anyone have a Gentoo KVM image (preferably 10G or less) to share,
 please email the details on how to obtain a copy. I will be using it
 for development, so the simpler it is the better, with working networking.
 
 The reason I'm asking here is because I'm lazy and don't want to do
 work that somebody else has already done. Hopefully sharing it here
 will save someone else time as well, so please reply to the list and
 CC me (in case I forget to check the archives, as I don't subscribe to
 this list).
 --
 Alexander
 alexan...@plaimi.net
 http://plaimi.net/~alexander



Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have a Gentoo KVM image to share?

2013-05-13 Thread Alexander Berntsen
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On 13/05/13 18:36, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote:
 The vm has a 50gb harddisk
I'm not sure how KVM works with this -- is it a static file at 50G?
I'm looking for an image I can use on my SSD, so it really has to be
quite small (preferably maximum 10G).

Thank you for the offer though, and if I can't get a small image
anywhere I could use yours via an external HDD.
- -- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote:
 On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:43, Dale wrote:
 I have it set to save a tarball here but I'd have to look up how to
 rescue myself if I did screw up.
 To rescue yourself using a binpackage:
 # cd /
 # tar -xvjpf ...path-to-binpackage-including-package...

 After that, I would suggest a emerge -vek world :)


I have a file for things like this in my root directory.  I added this
one.  I hope I never need it tho.  ;-) 


 I'm going to say this tho, it did not have time to compile the last gcc
 even tho I'm sure it did.  Your mention of a genlop error may be right.
 I bet genlop is reporting the wrong version on one of them somehow.
 I wonder if genlop is noticing there are 2 GCC-compiles running, but
 picks the most current version for both, rather then the correct version
 for each emerge?

That could be.  It may be two different problems.  Some USE flag
combination triggers a infinite loop and genlop needs some Raid sprayed
on it.  We all know how hard it is to fix something when you have two
different issues going on at the same time. 


 To add this in case I didn't mention it.  One time before, gcc compiled
 for like 5 or 6 hours while I took a nap.  I can compile LOo several
 times in that time frame.  Gcc never takes more than 30 minutes or so,
 usually around 20 or so.
 That depends on the USE-flags, I think.
 GCC on my old system always took a while, new systems (with also new
 versions) seem to be a lot faster.
 Thing is, I tend to build packages for all the machines in a single VM and
 then install those when I have a current set.
 That VM tends to be started and then I just leave it till I come back from
 work the next day.

I don't have any VMs here.  Just a regular install.  I did a genlop -t
gcc.  There was a few that went 30 minutes and one or two that went to
32 minutes.  Most likely something was compiling in parallel during a
upgrade.  I have it set to compile that way when it can.  Having gcc
compile for hours is not normal especially when gcc is compiling all by
itself.  In the winter I don't mind the extra heat but it's pretty much
summer here now.  lol

  I have a 4 core CPU running at I think 3.2Ghz
 and 16Gbs of ram with portages work directory on tmpfs.

 This is weird.  May look into a genlop change, up to a unstable one or
 back to a older version.  See if that helps.  Got to figure out how to
 force a upgrade tho.  ;-)

 Thanks.  At least I seem to have a clean upgrade now.
 You might already had :)

 --
 Joost


Well, I like it when emerge finishes cleanly and preserved-rebuild is
taken care of too. Even tho it is not really needed anymore, I still run
revdep-rebuild too. 

Going to see what happens when it upgrades again.  May need to clean out
older versions of gcc that nothing really needs too.  That may help.

Dale

:-)  :-) 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have a Gentoo KVM image to share?

2013-05-13 Thread Michael Mair-Keimberger
The uncompressed image has ~11gb and it would grow as you use it.

However it should be easy to shrink that.
The image has 3 (boot/swap/root) partitions, where the boot partition has 
32mb. If i'm correct you only have to create a new image, make 2 or 3 (depends 
if you need swap) partitions on it, where the first one (/boot) must have the 
same size like in the original image (means 32mb). 
Than you dd the boot partition and copy the files of the root partiton to your 
new image. The files should fit perfectly on a ~10gb hd too since they just 
need 
~1,5 gb.

I could try it on my own, but than i would take some time...

mike

On Monday 13 May 2013 18:39:17 Alexander Berntsen wrote:
 On 13/05/13 18:36, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote:
  The vm has a 50gb harddisk
 
 I'm not sure how KVM works with this -- is it a static file at 50G?
 I'm looking for an image I can use on my SSD, so it really has to be
 quite small (preferably maximum 10G).
 
 Thank you for the offer though, and if I can't get a small image
 anywhere I could use yours via an external HDD.
 --
 Alexander
 alexan...@plaimi.net
 http://plaimi.net/~alexander



Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have a Gentoo KVM image to share?

2013-05-13 Thread Alexander Berntsen
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On 13/05/13 19:24, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote:
 The uncompressed image has ~11gb and it would grow as you use it.
That is largely acceptable. I would prefer even smaller, but it's more
than sufficient for now. If you have anywhere I can get hold of this
image that would be great.
- -- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have a Gentoo KVM image to share?

2013-05-13 Thread Michael Mair-Keimberger
Well, i don't have any online storage were i could upload it. Looking at 
google i found this site www.transferbigfiles.com but i never tried it and 
uploads will expire in 5 days. If you don't have anything else i would upload 
it there..

mike

On Monday 13 May 2013 19:31:52 Alexander Berntsen wrote:
 On 13/05/13 19:24, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote:
  The uncompressed image has ~11gb and it would grow as you use it.
 
 That is largely acceptable. I would prefer even smaller, but it's more
 than sufficient for now. If you have anywhere I can get hold of this
 image that would be great.
 --
 Alexander
 alexan...@plaimi.net
 http://plaimi.net/~alexander



Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 13 May 2013 12:11:34 -0500, Dale wrote:

  To rescue yourself using a binpackage:
  # cd /
  # tar -xvjpf ...path-to-binpackage-including-package...
 
  After that, I would suggest a emerge -vek world :)
   
 
 I have a file for things like this in my root directory.  I added this
 one.  I hope I never need it tho.  ;-) 

You should only need it if portage or python is borked. OTherwise you can
leave the tarball in $PKGDIR and do

emerge -1k cat/pkg


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gcc compiling, is this normal?

2013-05-13 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 13 May 2013 12:11:34 -0500, Dale wrote:

 To rescue yourself using a binpackage:
 # cd /
 # tar -xvjpf ...path-to-binpackage-including-package...

 After that, I would suggest a emerge -vek world :)
  
 I have a file for things like this in my root directory.  I added this
 one.  I hope I never need it tho.  ;-) 
 You should only need it if portage or python is borked. OTherwise you can
 leave the tarball in $PKGDIR and do

 emerge -1k cat/pkg




Yep.  I have messed up portage before tho.  Actually, I think I did it
two or three times.  Just me being me.  ROFL

Dale

:-)  :-) 

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!




[gentoo-user] Re: gnome not working

2013-05-13 Thread walt
On 05/13/2013 04:06 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 When I start gdm, I get a message on the screen which says oh no,
 something has gone wrong. 

If I had a bitcoin for every time I've seen that message I could buy
all of us a beer.  Maybe two :)

 The log file is at
 http://pastebin.com/qwNE7ee6   -- I would appreciate any help.

There are no obvious problems in your Xorg log, so the real error
is not logged there.  I don't use gdm so I'm not sure where those
errors are logged.  Anyone?

The main reason I don't like using one of the *dm display managers
is exactly to avoid this sort of PITA where you can't even see the
real error messages.  That's why I use startx instead.

Anyway, the trick *I* would try is to add the gentoo=nox kernel
option to the grub boot prompt (assuming you use grub) to prevent
gentoo from even trying to start an X session, thus avoiding gdm
and allowing you to use startx so you can read the gnome error
messages on the console while X starts up.

If you can ssh into that machine you could also try removing xdm
from your /etc/runlevels/default directory, assuming it's there.
I'm not at all sure how the *dms are usually started during boot,
so someone else could give you a better answer.




[gentoo-user] Re: gnome not working

2013-05-13 Thread Hartmut Figge
walt:

Anyway, the trick *I* would try is to add the gentoo=nox kernel
option to the grub boot prompt (assuming you use grub) to prevent
gentoo from even trying to start an X session, thus avoiding gdm
and allowing you to use startx so you can read the gnome error
messages on the console while X starts up.

I am also using startx and have no experience with *dm. For a test, how
about renaming gdm to gdm-old and creating a script with the name gdm
instead?

- gdm -
#!bin/bash
gdm-old 21 | tee ~/gdm.log
---

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome not working

2013-05-13 Thread covici
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 05/13/2013 04:06 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
  When I start gdm, I get a message on the screen which says oh no,
  something has gone wrong. 
 
 If I had a bitcoin for every time I've seen that message I could buy
 all of us a beer.  Maybe two :)
 
  The log file is at
  http://pastebin.com/qwNE7ee6   -- I would appreciate any help.
 
 There are no obvious problems in your Xorg log, so the real error
 is not logged there.  I don't use gdm so I'm not sure where those
 errors are logged.  Anyone?
 
 The main reason I don't like using one of the *dm display managers
 is exactly to avoid this sort of PITA where you can't even see the
 real error messages.  That's why I use startx instead.
 
 Anyway, the trick *I* would try is to add the gentoo=nox kernel
 option to the grub boot prompt (assuming you use grub) to prevent
 gentoo from even trying to start an X session, thus avoiding gdm
 and allowing you to use startx so you can read the gnome error
 messages on the console while X starts up.
 
 If you can ssh into that machine you could also try removing xdm
 from your /etc/runlevels/default directory, assuming it's there.
 I'm not at all sure how the *dms are usually started during boot,
 so someone else could give you a better answer.
 

Well, I don't boot right into gdm or any display manager, I started gdm
by hand.  I did try startx, but got the same result, but I can get the
.xsessionerrors, so maybe someone can figure that out. 
Its at http://pastebin.com/JJrdxWHB .


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome not working

2013-05-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
[ snip ]
 Well, I don't boot right into gdm or any display manager, I started gdm
 by hand.

And by that you mean /etc/init.d/gdm start?

  I did try startx, but got the same result, but I can get the
 .xsessionerrors, so maybe someone can figure that out.
 Its at http://pastebin.com/JJrdxWHB .

Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México