Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
Excerpt from Stroller: My experience has been the opposite, that even the cheapest USB network adaptors have worked. Maybe I've just been lucky and this is not the norm, but from what I've seen USB network adapters don't work with Linux is the sort of thing that might have been true 10 years ago. Are you talking about an adapter that plugs into a USB port at one end and has an Ethernet port at the other end? Or are you talking about a cable or DSL router with a USB connection? I have a cable modem and router, the router can connect by either Ethernet or USB; I always used the Ethernet and never used the USB. But I had a DSL modem/router before the switch to cable, had both USB and Ethernet connectors. I failed to get the USB network connection to work, though the Ethernet worked OK. Tom
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?
On Thursday 04 Jul 2013 18:43:26 Kevin Thompson wrote: What architecture are you running this on? What USE flags are enabled with Firefox? This is amd64 stable. $ emerge -pv firefox These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies .. .. done! [ebuild R] www-client/firefox-17.0.7 USE=alsa dbus jit libnotify startup-notification -bindist -custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug - gstreamer -minimal (-pgo) (-selinux) -system-sqlite -wifi LINGUAS=en_GB -af -ak -ar -as -ast -be -bg -bn_BD -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_ZA -eo -es_AR -es_CL -es_ES -es_MX -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd -gl -gu_IN -he -hi_IN -hr -hu -hy_AM -id -is -it -ja -kk -km -kn -ko -ku -lg -lt -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -nb_NO -nl -nn_NO -nso -or -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -son -sq -sr -sv_SE -ta -ta_LK -te -th -tr -uk -vi - zh_CN -zh_TW -zu 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB -- Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?
On Friday 05 Jul 2013 03:40:23 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: Sorry to be a nuisance but I can't think of where else to ask. On the website I run I have a link to our Twitter profile (or whatever it's called). This is the link: https://twitter.com/TideswellMVC If I examine the page using the web host's file editor I see exactly that, yet if I press CTRL-U in www-client/firefox-17.0.7 it shows this: https://twitter.com/#%21/TideswellMVC and if I click the link in the main window I'm asked for a login and password. Very strange! Indeed so. Now here's where I eat humble pie. I ran an emerge -e world overnight (for other reasons) and now I can't reproduce the strangeness[1]. Firefox now behaves as it should. I can only apologise to you Paul, and to anyone else who put as much effort as you did into helping me with what turns out to have been a red herring. ---8 Now for some strong coffee... [1] Perhaps I shouldn't mention Konsole, of which I have four instances on one desktop. In two of them, turning the mouse wheel scrolls the output as expected, but in the other two it scrolls the command-line buffer! I assume this is just one more artefact of the mess that is KDE these days. -- Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On 5 July 2013, at 07:48, Thomas Mueller wrote: My experience has been the opposite, that even the cheapest USB network adaptors have worked. ... Maybe I've just been lucky and this is not the norm, but from what I've seen USB network adapters don't work with Linux is the sort of thing that might have been true 10 years ago. Are you talking about an adapter that plugs into a USB port at one end and has an Ethernet port at the other end? Like this: http://www.cnesmart.com/plus/view.php?aid=139 I can't say that's the exact same model as one of the ones I've used, with the same chipset and all, but it looks just the same. I see that page says the NIC is supported by Windows 2000, so I would be surprised if no Linux driver has been developed by now. Searching my computer it appears, although I can't say for sure, that I paid less than $10 for this adaptor. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?
On 05/07/13 at 10:28am, Peter Humphrey wrote: [1]Perhaps I shouldn't mention Konsole, of which I have four instances on one desktop. In two of them, turning the mouse wheel scrolls the output as expected, but in the other two it scrolls the command-line buffer! I assume this is just one more artefact of the mess that is KDE these days. I notice this behaviour when konsole has no output to scroll, it scrolls the command-line buffer. I guess that's normal. -- - Yohan Pereira The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and a seal. -- Mark Twain
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?
On Friday 05 Jul 2013 13:43:39 Yohan Pereira wrote: On 05/07/13 at 10:28am, Peter Humphrey wrote: [1]Perhaps I shouldn't mention Konsole, of which I have four instances on one desktop. In two of them, turning the mouse wheel scrolls the output as expected, but in the other two it scrolls the command-line buffer! I assume this is just one more artefact of the mess that is KDE these days. I notice this behaviour when konsole has no output to scroll, it scrolls the command-line buffer. I guess that's normal. Well, what do you know? You learn something new every day - if you're not careful! Thanks Yohan. -- Peter
[gentoo-user] DisplayLink
Anyone ever have any luck using a DisplayLink USB adapter in a multiheaded scenario? I'm having a difficult time getting anything connected to the adapter to show up via xrandr. I'm told I need: (via Matthew Thode on Google+) * =x11-drivers/xf86-video-modesetting-0.7.0 * =x11-apps/xrandr-1.4.0 * =x11-base/xorg-server-1.13.1 I have =x11-drivers/xf86-video-modesetting-0.7.0 =x11-apps/xrandr-1.4.0 =x11-apps/xorg-server-1.13.4 output of xrandr is: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3520 x 1080, maximum 32767 x 32767 LVDS1 connected 1600x900+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 382mm x 215mm 1600x900 60.0*+ 1024x768 60.0 800x60060.3 56.2 640x48059.9 VGA1 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 509mm x 286mm 1920x1080 60.0*+ 1680x1050 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1440x900 59.9 1280x960 60.0 1024x768 75.1 70.1 60.0 832x62474.6 800x60072.2 75.0 60.3 56.2 640x48072.8 75.0 66.7 60.0 720x40070.1 xrandr --listproviders: Providers: number : 1 Provider 0: id: 0x43 cap: 0xb, Source Output, Sink Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 2 outputs: 2 associated providers: 0 name:Intel lsusb: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04f2:b1d6 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd CNF9055 Toshiba Webcam Bus 002 Device 003: ID 17e9:0416 DisplayLink
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: Perhaps I shouldn't mention Konsole, of which I have four instances on one desktop. In two of them, turning the mouse wheel scrolls the output as expected, but in the other two it scrolls the command-line buffer! I assume this is just one more artefact of the mess that is KDE these days. Looks like this 5-year-old bug has other people wondering/complaining about it, too: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170582
[gentoo-user] Linux viruses
I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a interesting statement that makes me think I'm not recommending them for computer service to anyone else. While we was chatting, he said that Linux is just as prone to getting a virus as windoze and so is a Mac. I think my laughing let him know I wasn't buying his comment. I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to be? I read a percentage somewhere that said like 99% of viruses are windoze only. Is there a indisputable source of information on this? Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses
Ahahahah... Il giorno 05/lug/2013 22:13, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com ha scritto: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a interesting statement that makes me think I'm not recommending them for computer service to anyone else. While we was chatting, he said that Linux is just as prone to getting a virus as windoze and so is a Mac. I think my laughing let him know I wasn't buying his comment. I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to be? I read a percentage somewhere that said like 99% of viruses are windoze only. Is there a indisputable source of information on this? Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a interesting statement that makes me think I'm not recommending them for computer service to anyone else. While we was chatting, he said that Linux is just as prone to getting a virus as windoze and so is a Mac. I think my laughing let him know I wasn't buying his comment. I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to be? I read a percentage somewhere that said like 99% of viruses are windoze only. Is there a indisputable source of information on this? There have absolutely been viruses and various root exploits for Linux systems, but to say it is even 1% as many as Windows would probably be a massive overstatement. Not that Linux or Mac are necessarily inherently more secure than Windows, but Windows (and software that runs on Windows) is by far the biggest target for bad guys, and the most used by careless users. On any operating system, proper maintenance with regard to security updates, and smart behavior (don't run that EXE attachment the Nigerian prince just sent you) will keep you safe. For people who don't do that, Linux is typically set up more securely than Windows, by default... but the person sitting at the keyboard is usually capable of screwing it up more than any virus. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses
On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a interesting statement that makes me think I'm not recommending them for computer service to anyone else. While we was chatting, he said that Linux is just as prone to getting a virus as windoze and so is a Mac. I think my laughing let him know I wasn't buying his comment. I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to be? I read a percentage somewhere that said like 99% of viruses are windoze only. Is there a indisputable source of information on this? Thanks. Dale :-) :-) food for thought - some years back a member of the local lug picked up that something was listening on a port that he didn't think should be in use. Turned out to be an infected windows binary running under wine ... I presume he had been using wine and this was left running, rather than self starting. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses
William Kenworthy wrote: On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a interesting statement that makes me think I'm not recommending them for computer service to anyone else. While we was chatting, he said that Linux is just as prone to getting a virus as windoze and so is a Mac. I think my laughing let him know I wasn't buying his comment. I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to be? I read a percentage somewhere that said like 99% of viruses are windoze only. Is there a indisputable source of information on this? Thanks. Dale :-) :-) food for thought - some years back a member of the local lug picked up that something was listening on a port that he didn't think should be in use. Turned out to be an infected windows binary running under wine ... I presume he had been using wine and this was left running, rather than self starting. BillK Well, no Wine here. So that won't happen. Actually, I don't have a copy of windoze here at all. Neither of my two rigs have ever had windoze installed on them at all. BTW, I have been known to open those attachments before. I usually open them with kwrite or something and try to see what is human readable in there. Most is machine language but there is usually a small portion that is human readable. They sent it and I'm nosy that way. lol I'm still trying to figure out what he thought he would accomplish tho. I can't get my head wrapped around that yet. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
[gentoo-user] Re: Linux viruses
On 2013-07-05, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a interesting statement that makes me think I'm not recommending them for computer service to anyone else. While we was chatting, he said that Linux is just as prone to getting a virus as windoze and so is a Mac. I think my laughing let him know I wasn't buying his comment. I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to be? I read a percentage somewhere that said like 99% of viruses are windoze only. Is there a indisputable source of information on this? There have absolutely been viruses and various root exploits for Linux systems, but to say it is even 1% as many as Windows would probably be a massive overstatement. Not that Linux or Mac are necessarily inherently more secure than Windows, Well, I'm pretty sure that was the case for Linux for most of the past 20 years. People who's opinions I trust tell me that Windows security has vastly improved in the past few years. Even so, a 90% reduction in security issues in Windows still leaves them at least a factor of 10 worse that most all recent Linux distros that are installed and updated with even minimal competence. That said, even Linux has exploits. Once upon a time about 12 years ago, one of my Linux boxes got rooted. That machine was still using dial-up (no firewall). It had an external modem with tx/rx LEDs, and I always made sure the modem was sitting in plain site. One day I noticed the tx/rx LEDs start flashing when there shouldn't have been any network traffic. I disconnected the phone line, and after some investigation found a root-kit had been installed. I powered off the machine, signed up for DSL (which included a modem with a router/firewall), wiped the disk, and reinstalled the OS. Haven't had a problem since then... [Famous last words.] Never trust a modem/router/firewall without tx/rx LEDs. Of course these days there are so many devices on the network that are phoning home to check for firmware updates, get TV schedule info, check the weather, and report everything I do to the NSA that there's network traffic 24/7 regardless of what I'm doing. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Send your questions to at ``ASK ZIPPY'', Box 40474, gmail.comSan Francisco, CA 94140, USA
[gentoo-user] xscavenger - game
I installed xscavenger and it installed without any problems but I can seems to find this game anywhere. Yes, I'm in games group. From the command line: /usr/games/bin/scavenger -bash: /usr/games/bin/scavenger: Permission denied /usr/games/bin/scavenger -rwxr-x--- 1 root games 70496 Jul 5 18:39 /usr/games/bin/scavenger -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] xscavenger - game
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: I installed xscavenger and it installed without any problems but I can seems to find this game anywhere. Yes, I'm in games group. From the command line: /usr/games/bin/scavenger -bash: /usr/games/bin/scavenger: Permission denied /usr/games/bin/scavenger -rwxr-x--- 1 root games 70496 Jul 5 18:39 /usr/games/bin/scavenger Probably does not help you solve your problem, but I just tried here and it worked for me. I am running as my normal user. The permissions of the installed binary look the same as yours. Where I start the game I saw some messages like: $ scavenger No /home/paul/.scavenger/!!! Setting one up... No /home/paul/.scavenger/levels.scl, setting one up... Trying to copy /usr/share/games/scavenger/levels.scl..copied. No /home/paul/.scavenger/scavrc, setting one up... Also BTW -- there is a more modern SDL-based version on the author's website. I don't see any ebuild but maybe you can compile it and see how it goes.
Re: [gentoo-user] xscavenger - game
On 07/05/13 21:45, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: I installed xscavenger and it installed without any problems but I can seems to find this game anywhere. Yes, I'm in games group. From the command line: /usr/games/bin/scavenger -bash: /usr/games/bin/scavenger: Permission denied /usr/games/bin/scavenger -rwxr-x--- 1 root games 70496 Jul 5 18:39 /usr/games/bin/scavenger Probably does not help you solve your problem, but I just tried here and it worked for me. I am running as my normal user. The permissions of the installed binary look the same as yours. Where I start the game I saw some messages like: $ scavenger No /home/paul/.scavenger/!!! Setting one up... No /home/paul/.scavenger/levels.scl, setting one up... Trying to copy /usr/share/games/scavenger/levels.scl..copied. No /home/paul/.scavenger/scavrc, setting one up... Also BTW -- there is a more modern SDL-based version on the author's website. I don't see any ebuild but maybe you can compile it and see how it goes. Maybe /usr/games/bin/ is not on the path? How do I check it, I forgot :-/ -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] xscavenger - game
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 18:49:20 -0600 Joseph wrote: I installed xscavenger and it installed without any problems but I can seems to find this game anywhere. Yes, I'm in games group. From the command line: /usr/games/bin/scavenger -bash: /usr/games/bin/scavenger: Permission denied /usr/games/bin/scavenger -rwxr-x--- 1 root games 70496 Jul 5 18:39 /usr/games/bin/scavenger -- Joseph User root has permissions rwx. Group games has permissions r-x. Everyone else has no access (permission ---). You're getting Permission denied because you're not running as root and you're not a member of group games. Regards, David
Re: [gentoo-user] xscavenger - game
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe /usr/games/bin/ is not on the path? How do I check it, I forgot :-/ echo $PATH
Re: [gentoo-user] xscavenger - game
On 07/05/13 22:37, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe /usr/games/bin/ is not on the path? How do I check it, I forgot :-/ echo $PATH Path looks OK. /usr/games/bin is there $ echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.5.4:/usr/games/bin:/var/spool/fax/bin -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] xscavenger - game
On 07/05/13 23:36, David Relson wrote: On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 18:49:20 -0600 Joseph wrote: I installed xscavenger and it installed without any problems but I can seems to find this game anywhere. Yes, I'm in games group. From the command line: /usr/games/bin/scavenger -bash: /usr/games/bin/scavenger: Permission denied /usr/games/bin/scavenger -rwxr-x--- 1 root games 70496 Jul 5 18:39 /usr/games/bin/scavenger -- Joseph User root has permissions rwx. Group games has permissions r-x. Everyone else has no access (permission ---). You're getting Permission denied because you're not running as root and you're not a member of group games. Regards, David Thanks David for pointing it. Your are correct. What was confusing to me is the fact that I logged into the system via ssh to my account and su to use who was in group games but for some reason or another the games would not execute. When I ssh directly to the user account, it worked :-/ -- Joseph
