Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages
Am 28.09.2013 00:22, schrieb Alan McKinnon: This only works right if the ebuild maintainer is on the ball, watches Changelogs for the DEPENDS packages and put the proper metadata in the ebuild. You can imagine how this can work out very very well when done right, and if the maintainer makes a mistake (or doesn't clearly understand how it works) it can cause many unneccessary rebuilds (but not actually *break* stuff). Huge packages like LO with many interconnected DEPENDS are always going to be the usual victim I'm afraid... And then there's things that use poppler, boost, PyQT and pykde4 - a similar effect is at work. End result = your cpus will be kept nice and toasty warm doing lots of compiles but actual breakage of the sort that led to revdep-rebuild being developed should reduce dramatically. Some unneccessary rebuilds are the price we pay for not having breakage. In Helmut's specific case here, the cause seems to be python-exec. I missed that one myself somehow so had no idea it was hanging around biting folks. For the last few days my desktop machine always wants to rebuild tons of stuff like LibreOffice and PyQt4 etc ... And it doesn't get to an end ... right now I say emerge -1 gcc and it starts to emerge 13 packages ... with LO rebuilt several times afaik. What to do about this situation? Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:13:31 +0200 Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 28.09.2013 00:22, schrieb Alan McKinnon: This only works right if the ebuild maintainer is on the ball, watches Changelogs for the DEPENDS packages and put the proper metadata in the ebuild. You can imagine how this can work out very very well when done right, and if the maintainer makes a mistake (or doesn't clearly understand how it works) it can cause many unneccessary rebuilds (but not actually *break* stuff). Huge packages like LO with many interconnected DEPENDS are always going to be the usual victim I'm afraid... And then there's things that use poppler, boost, PyQT and pykde4 - a similar effect is at work. End result = your cpus will be kept nice and toasty warm doing lots of compiles but actual breakage of the sort that led to revdep-rebuild being developed should reduce dramatically. Some unneccessary rebuilds are the price we pay for not having breakage. In Helmut's specific case here, the cause seems to be python-exec. I missed that one myself somehow so had no idea it was hanging around biting folks. For the last few days my desktop machine always wants to rebuild tons of stuff like LibreOffice and PyQt4 etc ... And it doesn't get to an end ... right now I say emerge -1 gcc and it starts to emerge 13 packages ... with LO rebuilt several times afaik. What to do about this situation? Thanks, Stefan EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--ignore-built-slot-operator-deps=y in make.conf to disable slot operator rebuilds (and allow any associated breakage). Portage still seems to keep track of subslot dependency rebuilds while this flag is enabled, so that you can remove it later and rebuild anything Portage considers broken. Cheers, Khumba
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 I just plugged in my USB memory stick. Here's the output of dmesg with regard to that: box0=; dmesg|tail -30 [ 1674.204287] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT [ 1674.255067] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci-pci [ 1674.306278] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: port 3 reset complete, port enabled [ 1674.306286] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT [ 1674.370434] usb 1-3: default language 0x0409 [ 1674.371812] usb 1-3: udev 3, busnum 1, minor = 2 [ 1674.371816] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0951, idProduct=1603 [ 1674.371819] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [ 1674.371821] usb 1-3: Product: DataTraveler 2.0 [ 1674.371824] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Kingston [ 1674.371826] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: 000AEB91BC8CA9203550013A [ 1674.371945] usb 1-3: usb_probe_device [ 1674.371949] usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 1674.372446] usb 1-3: adding 1-3:1.0 (config #1, interface 0) [ 1674.372501] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface [ 1674.372508] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id [ 1674.372511] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [ 1674.372679] scsi6 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0 [ 1675.374695] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [ 1675.377095] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7852032 512-byte logical blocks: (4.02 GB/3.74 GiB) [ 1675.377860] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [ 1675.377866] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 [ 1675.378706] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.378711] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.382693] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.382698] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.608825] sdb: [ 1675.996321] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.996326] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.996330] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk As far as I can tell, it's not auto-mounted, is it? 'ls /media' and 'ls /mnt' return nothing. I could probably use the 'mount' command, to access the files on the memory stick, I'd like my system to auto-mount it. Any pointers would be appreciated.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01
Am 08.10.2013 02:03, schrieb walt: On 09/29/2013 04:58 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: As much as I hate systemd My Alzheimer's prevents me from remembering your reasons for hating systemd. Would you *very* briefly refresh my memory, please? simple: one tool to do one job. text output to pipe into other tools. Small is better. systemd violates all of them. Also: dishonesty.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed i don't see thunar-volman in your list there futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices, instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you really want to mount from commandline
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed i don't see thunar-volman in your list there futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices, instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you really want to mount from commandline Thanks. thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well: equery list '*thunar*' * Searching for *thunar* ... [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0 'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns: ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory I'll go ahead and do as instructed in the forum post you supplied. I'll let you know how I went once I've done it. Thanks once again for your help.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On 10/08/2013 10:08 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 21:55, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed i don't see thunar-volman in your list there futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices, instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you really want to mount from commandline Thanks. thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well: equery list '*thunar*' * Searching for *thunar* ... [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0 'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns: ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory The post covers also this, it looks like you have forgot to add 'dbus' and 'consolekit' to the runlevels: # rc-update add consolekit default # rc-update add dbus default # /etc/init.d/consolekit start That will start dbus and ConsoleKit on boot as required, the system instances. Then there is the user instances, also covered by the post. For example, running Xfce using `startx` from text console: ~/.xinitrc file in your home directory has the content of: exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch And then you can run $ startx But like said, this is all covered by the forums post. It's like a checklist. I'll certainly do that. Thanks very much.
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On 08/10/13 21:55, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4 But I still can't auto-mount my removable drives. So I thought that perhaps some further configuration had to be done. That question still remains, how do I do it? Thanks. hi, you need to emerge just one package: xfce-extra/thunar-volman (it may pull some dependencies); it does what you asked for victor Thanks for your response. To save further confusion, which is something I should have done right from the word go, here's a list of all the xfce packages I have installed on my system: box0=; equery list '*xfce*' * Searching for *xfce* ... [IP-] [ ] dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-terms/xfce4-terminal-0.4.8:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r200:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-3.0.1-r300:3 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.10.0-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.10.0:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.6.4:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin-1.2.5:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin-0.8.3:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.5.4.3:0 xfce-base/thunar needs to have USE=udev enabled and xfce-extra/thunar-volman must be installed i don't see thunar-volman in your list there futhermore authorization from polkit/consolekit must be working, so you must see 'active = TRUE' line when you run `ck-list-sessions` in your Xfce's Terminal as a normal user, see this thread (first post of it): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-start-0.html and like said, xfce4-mount-plugin is irrelevant, and `mount` command shouldn't be used at all for udisks maintained removable devices, instead `udisksctl mount` should be used as a normal user if you really want to mount from commandline Thanks. thunar/thunar-valman seem to be installed on my system as well: equery list '*thunar*' * Searching for *thunar* ... [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2:0 [IP-] [ ] xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.8.0:0 'ck-list-sessions' when run as a regular user returns: ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-Bus daemon: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory The post covers also this, it looks like you have forgot to add 'dbus' and 'consolekit' to the runlevels: # rc-update add consolekit default # rc-update add dbus default # /etc/init.d/consolekit start That will start dbus and ConsoleKit on boot as required, the system instances. Then there is the user instances, also covered by the post. For example, running Xfce using `startx` from text console: ~/.xinitrc file in your home directory has the content of: exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch And then you can run $ startx But like said, this is all covered by the forums post. It's like a checklist.
Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages
Am 08.10.2013 16:04, schrieb Khumba: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--ignore-built-slot-operator-deps=y in make.conf to disable slot operator rebuilds (and allow any associated breakage). Portage still seems to keep track of subslot dependency rebuilds while this flag is enabled, so that you can remove it later and rebuild anything Portage considers broken. Thanks for that hint ... gcc builds now fine (only 3 pkgs) ... I wonder if we should already rebuild something like @system with gcc-4.8.1-r1 ;-) I assume, no .. (and it is OT for this thread, sorry). S
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 08:19:40PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: I just plugged in my USB memory stick. Here's the output of dmesg with regard to that: box0=; dmesg|tail -30 [ 1674.204287] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT [ 1674.255067] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci-pci [ 1674.306278] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: port 3 reset complete, port enabled [ 1674.306286] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT [ 1674.370434] usb 1-3: default language 0x0409 [ 1674.371812] usb 1-3: udev 3, busnum 1, minor = 2 [ 1674.371816] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0951, idProduct=1603 [ 1674.371819] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [ 1674.371821] usb 1-3: Product: DataTraveler 2.0 [ 1674.371824] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Kingston [ 1674.371826] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: 000AEB91BC8CA9203550013A [ 1674.371945] usb 1-3: usb_probe_device [ 1674.371949] usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 1674.372446] usb 1-3: adding 1-3:1.0 (config #1, interface 0) [ 1674.372501] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface [ 1674.372508] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id [ 1674.372511] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [ 1674.372679] scsi6 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0 [ 1675.374695] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [ 1675.377095] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7852032 512-byte logical blocks: (4.02 GB/3.74 GiB) [ 1675.377860] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [ 1675.377866] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 [ 1675.378706] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.378711] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.382693] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.382698] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.608825] sdb: [ 1675.996321] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.996326] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.996330] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk Additionally, there doesn't seem to be any partitions on that device. Is this some type of filesystem/label which does not have one? Such as sdb1 -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages
On 09/27/2013 09:24 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by portage to re-emerge some packages. I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when I try to emerge, say, app-shells/zsh-completions it re-emerges (emerge -vp shows 'rR') several packages including, i.e., app-office/libreoffice I can't imaging libreoffice depends in any way on zsh-completions. So, what's going on? (and rebuilding libreoffice isn't just fun) Many thanks, Helmut. Maybe https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486910 ? -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang
Re: [gentoo-user] re: NX (Execute Disable) protection cannot be enabled: non-PAE kernel! [dmesg]
On Tue, Oct 08 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: That is correct, with 3G physica RAM, you will not benefit from using PAE at all. I don't think it interferes with anything if you do have it, I recall a time when RedHat shipped 32 bit kernels that were PAE-enabled. Briefly, the way it works is that the kernel assigns blocks of memory to different processes. So a single process can still only access 4G of memory, but two different process don't anymore have to address the same 4G of memory like you must do without PAE. But you still don't get to give your 32 bit database more than 4g of RAM Agreed. Virtual addresses refer to those in the program (really process). Physical addresses address refer to those in the hardware (i.e. addresses in the RAM itself). To have a single process able to access extra memory would be to increase the *virtual* address range. PAE (*physical* address extension) enables more RAM to be accessed (by the hardware not by a single process), but does not increase the virtual address range. When pdp-11s added I and D space, that increased the virtual address range by a factor of two. The I/D bit (instruction/data) was essentially an extra bit of virtual address. allan
[gentoo-user] xorg-server update puzzle
A few days ago, I upgraded to xorg-server-1.14.3 with a lot of deps. Everything seems to be working normally since then, but a lot of pkgs became unneeded, according to 'emerge -cpv', ie 131005 x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.6 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/sessreg-1.0.7 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xkill-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xlsclients-1.1.2 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.5 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.4 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xvinfo-1.1.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-libs/libXp-1.0.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.7 [for nvidia-drivers] 131005 x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.4 [for mesa : otiose] 131005 x11-proto/printproto-1.0.5 [for xorg-x11 LO : otiose] (from my home-made list of installed + removed pkgs). Presumably, these have all been absorbed into other Xorg pgms. Is this correct ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 08:11:48PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 08.10.2013 02:03, schrieb walt: On 09/29/2013 04:58 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: As much as I hate systemd My Alzheimer's prevents me from remembering your reasons for hating systemd. Would you *very* briefly refresh my memory, please? simple: one tool to do one job. text output to pipe into other tools. Small is better. I'm not a strong systemd hater or anything, but this is my concern about the way it is designed as well; process 1 is way too complex. There is some interest in s6 [1], which is now in ~arch on amd64 and x86. It seems to be a pretty simple design. We haven't written anything for it yet, but it may be able to be integrated into OpenRC to provide service supervision, which is the main feature systemd offers, in my opinion, which we do not have in our current OpenRC setup. William [1] http://www.skarnet.org/software/s6 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server update puzzle
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:46:25 -0400 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: A few days ago, I upgraded to xorg-server-1.14.3 with a lot of deps. Everything seems to be working normally since then, but a lot of pkgs became unneeded, according to 'emerge -cpv', ie 131005 x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.6 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/sessreg-1.0.7 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xkill-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xlsclients-1.1.2 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.5 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.4 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-apps/xvinfo-1.1.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-libs/libXp-1.0.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] 131005 x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.7 [for nvidia-drivers] 131005 x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.4 [for mesa : otiose] 131005 x11-proto/printproto-1.0.5 [for xorg-x11 LO : otiose] (from my home-made list of installed + removed pkgs). Presumably, these have all been absorbed into other Xorg pgms. Is this correct ? x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r1 here. I still have those packages; they're pulled in by x11-base/xorg-x11, which is the main Xorg meta-package that pulls in xorg-server. As for whether you need them, I think that's your call. I haven't tried xorg-server without xorg-x11 in a while, but lots of those utilities are useful (xkill, xrandr...). Cheers, Khumba
