Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-07-31 Thread wraeth
On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 00:46 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > If you are using systemd, even better, use systemd-nswpan. systemd-nspawn is quite a useful utility for working in a chroot - almost a complete virtual machine without the overhead. I also came across a handy introduction to it [1] t

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-07-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > What's the easiest way to compile Gentoo for another amd64 machine? I have a > i5 desktop, and the laptop I have seems to be a subset of corei7 as per GCC > native option. > The basic installation was done using distcc, but it's not as

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread Gevisz
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:17:54 +0200 "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > On 31 July 2014 16:19:21 CEST, Gevisz wrote: > >On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:03:09 -0400 > >Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > > >> I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper solution, but for > >> right now > >> > >> emerge --oneshot dev-per

[gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-07-31 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
What's the easiest way to compile Gentoo for another amd64 machine? I have a i5 desktop, and the laptop I have seems to be a subset of corei7 as per GCC native option. The basic installation was done using distcc, but it's not as fast as compiling completely on my machine. May be I should not put l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > how much do you have to install if you deactivate all use flags for > okular? well, you still have all of qt... and kdelibs and phonon... but > you would loose a lot of the other stuff. vlc support in phonon is as > optional a

Re: [gentoo-user] Ideapad-laptop

2014-07-31 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Thu, 2014-07-31 at 20:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 31 July 2014 19:40:07 CEST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > >On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 16:32 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > >> On 30-Jul-2014 4:30 pm, "Mick" wrote: > >> > > >> > On Wednesday 30 Jul 2014 11:53:25 Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Ideapad-laptop

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 19:40:07 CEST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 16:32 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >> On 30-Jul-2014 4:30 pm, "Mick" wrote: >> > >> > On Wednesday 30 Jul 2014 11:53:25 Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >> > > So I got a new Lenovo G50. >> > > I found all the required d

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 16:19:21 CEST, Gevisz wrote: >On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:03:09 -0400 >Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > >> I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper solution, but for right >> now >> >> emerge --oneshot dev-perl/XML-Parser >> >> should at least allow you to continue building colord.

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 17:19:20 CEST, Gevisz wrote: >On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:18:35 +0200 >"J. Roeleveld" wrote: > >> On 31 July 2014 15:58:17 CEST, Gevisz wrote: >> >On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:36:38 +0200 >> >Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > >> >> On 31/07/2014 15:29, Gevisz wrote: >> >> > In my today's system up

Re: [gentoo-user] Ideapad-laptop

2014-07-31 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 16:32 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > On 30-Jul-2014 4:30 pm, "Mick" wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 30 Jul 2014 11:53:25 Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > > > So I got a new Lenovo G50. > > > I found all the required drivers in kernel itself. Seems to be > quite Linux > > > friendl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 16:33:38 CEST, Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:16:06 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> >Just wait till Neil, me and a few others swing the topic over to WW >II >> >fighter aircraft. The flames will start then. >> >> Speaking of which... >> One of my wishlist items is

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Badblocks on my harddisk

2014-07-31 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:13:25AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > In the meanwhile I found ddrescue... :) > > It took me five hours to copy the disk (1T) binaryly (this word looks > wrong...) hm... not a native speaker, but: binarily? in binary? If in doubt, leave it out: in a binary manne

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it.

2014-07-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 31.07.2014 12:37, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:50:54AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Is ECC memory a drop-in replacement for ordinary RAM, or does it need > a special motherboard? >>> [...] >>> I would have liked the aspect of a system that tells me w

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > In such cases I tend to suggest installing ufed. equery from gentoolkit works for me -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJT2mBoAAoJEK64IL

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread Gevisz
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:18:35 +0200 "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > On 31 July 2014 15:58:17 CEST, Gevisz wrote: > >On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:36:38 +0200 > >Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > >> On 31/07/2014 15:29, Gevisz wrote: > >> > In my today's system update I have got the following error > >> > message: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:33:38 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > >Just wait till Neil, me and a few others swing the topic over to WW > > >II fighter aircraft. The flames will start then. > > > > Speaking of which... > > One of my wishlist items is a fully functional B25. Would be great > > durin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:16:06 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >Just wait till Neil, me and a few others swing the topic over to WW II > >fighter aircraft. The flames will start then. > > Speaking of which... > One of my wishlist items is a fully functional B25. Would be great > during parties with

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread Gevisz
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:03:09 -0400 Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper solution, but for right > now > > emerge --oneshot dev-perl/XML-Parser > > should at least allow you to continue building colord. It seems that it helped, but not the suggestions from

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 16:03:09 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: >I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper solution, but for right >now > >emerge --oneshot dev-perl/XML-Parser > >should at least allow you to continue building colord. > Please do not top post. A long term solution is listed at the

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 15:58:17 CEST, Gevisz wrote: >On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:36:38 +0200 >Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 31/07/2014 15:29, Gevisz wrote: >> > In my today's system update I have got the following error message: >> > >> > * ERROR: x11-misc/colord-1.2.1-r1::gentoo failed (configure >phase):

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 July 2014 15:37:51 CEST, Alan McKinnon wrote: >On 31/07/2014 12:45, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: >>> So on that box you wouldn't choose a KDE program. Simple. >> Yes, it was simple. Everything on gentoo is just s simple ;) >> >> I think this is the first discussion about desktop environments

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper solution, but for right now emerge --oneshot dev-perl/XML-Parser should at least allow you to continue building colord. On Thu 31 Jul 2014 09:58:17 AM EDT, Gevisz wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:36:38 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 31/07/20

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread Gevisz
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:36:38 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 31/07/2014 15:29, Gevisz wrote: > > In my today's system update I have got the following error message: > > > > * ERROR: x11-misc/colord-1.2.1-r1::gentoo failed (configure phase): > > * econf failed > > The actual error message is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/07/2014 12:45, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: >> So on that box you wouldn't choose a KDE program. Simple. > Yes, it was simple. Everything on gentoo is just s simple ;) > > I think this is the first discussion about desktop environments I've > ever seen that hasn't degenerated into a complete

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/07/2014 15:29, Gevisz wrote: > In my today's system update I have got the following error message: > > * ERROR: x11-misc/colord-1.2.1-r1::gentoo failed (configure phase): > * econf failed The actual error message is earlier than this point[1]. Please go through that referenced log, f

[gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-07-31 Thread Gevisz
In my today's system update I have got the following error message: * ERROR: x11-misc/colord-1.2.1-r1::gentoo failed (configure phase): * econf failed * * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 93: Called src_configure *environment, line 3551: Called gnome2_src_configure '-

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > In such cases I tend to suggest installing ufed... Seems really handy. Thanks.

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:34:04PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: > Hello everyone. > […] > Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. > […] > I am not trying to have severe control, I just want to expand my knowledge! > thanks. In such cases I tend to suggest installing ufed. 'tis a UI for setti

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>> okular is not a 'stinking pdf reader'. Nice try. But just like konqueror >>> it is just a wrapper around kparts and is able to deal with a lot more >>> files than just pdf and postscript. >>> >>> That is what 'modular' and 'code reuse' really mea

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it.

2014-07-31 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:50:54AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> Is ECC memory a drop-in replacement for ordinary RAM, or does it need > >>> a special motherboard? > > [...] > > I would have liked the aspect of a system that tells me when something goes > > wrong, but there seems no suc

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 29/07/14 14:50, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/07/2014 13:45, behrouz khosravi wrote: >> Thanks every one. >> >> I guess I got it know ! >> And I must say that the way Gentoo is working now, is simple, no doubts. >> >> And I am surprised to hear that Gentoo is so strict to follow upstream. >> I g

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove all perl?

2014-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:25:03 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > This includes: > - programs I use > - kernel > - libraries I need for my own projects > - dependencies for software that isn't in the portage tree > (I should create a meta-package for those) I use sets for the last one, just list the pa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: a question about updating process

2014-07-31 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I think James must have been having an off day. There was nothing even > slightly ridiculous about what you wrote. Thnaks Peter. :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 04:41:24 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > I occasionally tried razorqt or enlightenment or twm... > > and yeah, they load quickly. And then they are all useless for me. That's basically my experience. I'm impressed with the speed then find I can't do what I want because t

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove all perl?

2014-07-31 Thread Mick
On Thursday 31 Jul 2014 09:25:03 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, July 31, 2014 06:48:01 AM Mick wrote: > > On Thursday 31 Jul 2014 06:14:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > I always check the list from depclean to see if there is any package > > > and/or > > > version that I am actually using. If yes,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 30 July 2014 23:50:51 Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > I love having KDE on my desktop (and okular is really nice), but on my > laptop (i3wm) I spend the vast majority of my time in vim and on the > terminal and shouldn't have to essentially install KDE to view a PDF > when I need to check s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
Clicked send too soon... On Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:32:34 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, July 31, 2014 08:34:09 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 31/07/2014 03:55, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > Seems that if I want to emerge and use KDE's "pdf reader", I need... > > > > > > phonon > > > v

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 31.07.2014 05:50, schrieb Alec Ten Harmsel: >> okular is not a 'stinking pdf reader'. Nice try. But just like konqueror >> it is just a wrapper around kparts and is able to deal with a lot more >> files than just pdf and postscript. >> >> That is what 'modular' and 'code reuse' really means. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: a question about updating process

2014-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 31 July 2014 00:03:06 behrouz khosravi wrote: > I think it takes a long time for me to familiarize myself to > this world, so I guess more of this rediculous statement will be on > the way! And my apologies in advance! > > Thanks and have a nice time. I think James must have been hav

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove all perl?

2014-07-31 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 31/07/2014 10:12, Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >>> On Thursday 31 Jul 2014 06:14:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> I always check the list from depclean to see if there is any package and/or version that I am actually using. If yes, I add it to the world file. (Emerg

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 08:34:09 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 31/07/2014 03:55, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:31:50PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > > > >> Am 30.07.2014 21:48, schrieb Dale: > >>> While to me KDE is bloated, I just try to disable what I can and carry >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/07/2014 09:23, Dale wrote: > Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 04:41:24AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote >> >>> I occasionally tried razorqt or enlightenment or twm... >>> and yeah, they load quickly. And then they are all useless for me. >> I run ICEWM with 9 work areas dedi

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove all perl?

2014-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 06:48:01 AM Mick wrote: > On Thursday 31 Jul 2014 06:14:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: > > I always check the list from depclean to see if there is any package > > and/or > > version that I am actually using. If yes, I add it to the world file. > > (Emerge --noreplace) > > I don

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove all perl?

2014-07-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/07/2014 10:12, Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: >> On Thursday 31 Jul 2014 06:14:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: >> >>> I always check the list from depclean to see if there is any package and/or >>> version that I am actually using. If yes, I add it to the world file. >>> (Emerge --noreplace) >> I don't add

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove all perl?

2014-07-31 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Thursday 31 Jul 2014 06:14:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> I always check the list from depclean to see if there is any package and/or >> version that I am actually using. If yes, I add it to the world file. >> (Emerge --noreplace) > I don't add packages to my world file, let alone spe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 04:41:24AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > >> I occasionally tried razorqt or enlightenment or twm... >> and yeah, they load quickly. And then they are all useless for me. > I run ICEWM with 9 work areas dedicated to specific "tasks" or forums. > A