Re: [gentoo-user] MBR partition

2014-09-05 Thread Kerin Millar
On 06/09/2014 04:10, Joseph wrote: On 09/05/14 21:02, Joseph wrote: I'm configuring MBR partition for older disk and need to know what code to enter for boot partition. My BIOS is not EFI type. Not that it particularly matters but a partition dedicated to /boot contains a Linux filesystem and

Re: [gentoo-user] oracle-jdk-bin 1.8.0.20 ebuild

2014-09-05 Thread Saifi Khan
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 3 September 2014 06:07:46 CEST, Saifi Khan wrote: Hi: portage has ebuild for oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0.11 whereas oracle website has update 20 ie. oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0.20 i am interested in tweaking the ebuild in order to install 1.8.0.20 Can somebody e

Re: [gentoo-user] MBR partition

2014-09-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 6 September 2014 05:10:59 CEST, Joseph wrote: >On 09/05/14 21:02, Joseph wrote: >>I'm configuring MBR partition for older disk and need to know what >code to enter for boot partition. >>My BIOS is not EFI type. > >My current configuration: >fdisk -l /dev/sda > >Disk /dev/sda: 447.1 GiB, 4801039

Re: [gentoo-user] MBR partition

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 21:02, Joseph wrote: I'm configuring MBR partition for older disk and need to know what code to enter for boot partition. My BIOS is not EFI type. My current configuration: fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 447.1 GiB, 480103981056 bytes, 937703088 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512

[gentoo-user] MBR partition

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
I'm configuring MBR partition for older disk and need to know what code to enter for boot partition. My BIOS is not EFI type. -- Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new installation - partitions

2014-09-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > What changed with our docs? Most likely a deep change in doc-team > personnel, but I don;t know for sure. > Some of it is probably the docs team. Some of it was that we were very slow to switch to a Wiki, which makes it harder for non-sta

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Intel NUC install -- no display on OLED TV

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/05/2014 01:12 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > I'm planning on updating my aging media center. The Celeron+Intel > video card are able to handle FullHD (1920x1080) video? > My local OTA broadcasts are almost all 1080i, and mythtv handles that no problem with vaapi. I looked around and f

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 16:07:38 -0600, Joseph wrote: > reboot the system and it still doesn't boot. You've been asked before but I don't recall seeing the answer. If it doesn't boot, what does happen? What messages do you see? -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 34: Silent scream signature.as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 22:06:43 + (UTC), James wrote: > Yep, good choice. Many old bios are, well a challenge. Sometimes > vendors have differnt bios and bios versions on the same/similar family > of motherboards. Maybe you can find a bios upgrade for your > old mobo? Sometimes that helps, but you

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 06/09/14 06:07, Joseph wrote: > On 09/05/14 22:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 13:54:07 -0600, Joseph wrote: >> >>> >> I don't need to format sda1, grub2-install should take care of it. >>> >> So what am I doing wrong? >>> > Something I have not seen so far is do you have a devic

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 22:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 13:54:07 -0600, Joseph wrote: >> I don't need to format sda1, grub2-install should take care of it. >> So what am I doing wrong? > >Did you run grub2-install from within the chroot? I've had problems >with this in the past, no error mes

[gentoo-user] Re: setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread James
Joseph gmail.com> writes: > Hi James, > > I don't want to cause any problems :-/ I'm just trying to boot this piece > of crap of mine so I can proceed with installation. > But I'm out of luck. It could be due to my old BIOS not recognizing > correctly GPT. > > I think my only options woul

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 20:50, James wrote: Joseph gmail.com> writes: But where to find older fdisk and in stall it from chroot environment. Long answer. You are setting me up for another round of flame_arrows. YOU should follow the advise you are given on how to solve your problem. You are "hard head

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 19:57:48 + (UTC), James wrote: > > What does 'gdisk -l /dev/sda' say about GPT and MBR (it usually says > > whether you have a valid GPT and/or MBR before printing information > > about the partitions.) > > gfisk does not seem to be in the tree. That's the old name for th

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 13:54:07 -0600, Joseph wrote: > >> I don't need to format sda1, grub2-install should take care of it. > >> So what am I doing wrong? > > > >Did you run grub2-install from within the chroot? I've had problems > >with this in the past, no error messages but GRUB is not installed

[gentoo-user] Re: setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread James
Joseph gmail.com> writes: > But where to find older fdisk and in stall it from chroot environment. Long answer. You are setting me up for another round of flame_arrows. YOU should follow the advise you are given on how to solve your problem. You are "hard headed".. You'll do well with Gent

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Todd Goodman
* James [140905 15:58]: > Todd Goodman bonedaddy.net> writes: > > > What does 'gdisk -l /dev/sda' say about GPT and MBR (it usually says > > whether you have a valid GPT and/or MBR before printing information > > about the partitions.) > > gfisk does not seem to be in the tree. That's the old n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 09/05/2014 04:11 PM, Joseph wrote: > > With a GPT partition and old BIOS 2008 system, I need to set the > bootable flag on the protective MSDOS partition. Thats all the BIOS > can see. > > I need to use an older fdisk and ignore the dire warning about a GPT > partition table being detected. > >

[gentoo-user] Re: setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > How to set a boot flag on sda1. > > I'm using fdisk from util-linux 2.24.1 and in order to set it I need > > version 2.22 or earlier > You don't need to, that's only needed by the Windows bootloader. When search for GUID partition table, I find (2) us

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Intel NUC install -- no display on OLED TV

2014-09-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 09/05/2014 11:16 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> I read about outdated BIOS-versions and the need/fix to connect >> something via DisplayPort and enter BIOS once ... to "reset" things or >> something. >> >> I don't have such a box ... just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 19:57, James wrote: Todd Goodman bonedaddy.net> writes: What does 'gdisk -l /dev/sda' say about GPT and MBR (it usually says whether you have a valid GPT and/or MBR before printing information about the partitions.) gfisk does not seem to be in the tree. That's the old name for t

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Intel NUC install -- no display on OLED TV

2014-09-05 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/05/2014 11:16 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > I read about outdated BIOS-versions and the need/fix to connect > something via DisplayPort and enter BIOS once ... to "reset" things or > something. > > I don't have such a box ... just echoing something I read (as I play > with the thought to

[gentoo-user] Re: setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread James
Todd Goodman bonedaddy.net> writes: > What does 'gdisk -l /dev/sda' say about GPT and MBR (it usually says > whether you have a valid GPT and/or MBR before printing information > about the partitions.) gfisk does not seem to be in the tree. That's the old name for the "gptfdisk" now in the porta

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 20:26, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 08:02:08 -0600, Joseph wrote: I don't need to format sda1, grub2-install should take care of it. So what am I doing wrong? Did you run grub2-install from within the chroot? I've had problems with this in the past, no error messages b

Re: [gentoo-user] setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 10:14:13 -0600, Joseph wrote: > How to set a boot flag on sda1. > I'm using fdisk from util-linux 2.24.1 and in order to set it I need > version 2.22 or earlier You don't need to, that's only needed by the Windows bootloader. -- Neil Bothwick Irritable? Who the bloody hell

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 08:02:08 -0600, Joseph wrote: > I don't need to format sda1, grub2-install should take care of it. So > what am I doing wrong? Did you run grub2-install from within the chroot? I've had problems with this in the past, no error messages but GRUB is not installed correctly. Inst

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 11:55:49 -0600, Joseph wrote: > It seems to me my BIOS can not read GPT partition so what are my > alternatives? I think I will have to format the SSD in MBR BIOS doesn't read partitions. It loads a few bytes of bootloader code, then the bootloader takes over. -- Neil Bothw

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 20:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 5 September 2014 19:55:49 CEST, Joseph wrote: On 09/05/14 14:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 07:06:27 -0600, Joseph wrote: I made a typo my Bios is from around 2008 so it can not be EFI. So I need a "BIOS boot partition" which in my case

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Intel NUC install -- no display on OLED TV

2014-09-05 Thread Grant
>> I have a Gigabyte 2807 (technically not a NUC but basically the same >> thing) and nothing appears on the screen at all when it is connected >> to a 55" OLED TV via HDMI. Just a "no signal" message. I was planning >> to install Gentoo via a bootable USB stick but I don't even get a POST >> scree

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 5 September 2014 19:55:49 CEST, Joseph wrote: >On 09/05/14 14:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 07:06:27 -0600, Joseph wrote: >> >>> I made a typo my Bios is from around 2008 so it can not be EFI. >>> So I need a "BIOS boot partition" which in my case is "/dev/sda1" >but I >>> don't

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Intel NUC install -- no display on OLED TV

2014-09-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.09.2014 um 16:51 schrieb Grant: > I have a Gigabyte 2807 (technically not a NUC but basically the same > thing) and nothing appears on the screen at all when it is connected > to a 55" OLED TV via HDMI. Just a "no signal" message. I was planning > to install Gentoo via a bootable USB stick bu

Re: [gentoo-user] setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Todd Goodman
* Joseph [140905 13:37]: > On 09/05/14 13:12, Todd Goodman wrote: > >* Joseph [140905 12:14]: > >> How to set a boot flag on sda1. > >> I'm using fdisk from util-linux 2.24.1 and in order to set it I need > >> version 2.22 or earlier > >> > >> -- > >> Joseph > > > >If you're using GPT partition

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 14:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 07:06:27 -0600, Joseph wrote: I made a typo my Bios is from around 2008 so it can not be EFI. So I need a "BIOS boot partition" which in my case is "/dev/sda1" but I don't need the /dev/sda2 - this is my 128M boot partition. My layout:

Re: [gentoo-user] setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 13:12, Todd Goodman wrote: * Joseph [140905 12:14]: How to set a boot flag on sda1. I'm using fdisk from util-linux 2.24.1 and in order to set it I need version 2.22 or earlier -- Joseph If you're using GPT partitions then you should really be using gdisk or recent parted (gpar

Re: [gentoo-user] setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Todd Goodman
* Joseph [140905 12:14]: > How to set a boot flag on sda1. > I'm using fdisk from util-linux 2.24.1 and in order to set it I need version > 2.22 or earlier > > -- > Joseph If you're using GPT partitions then you should really be using gdisk or recent parted (gparted.) You'll see strange resu

[gentoo-user] setting boot flag on sda1

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
How to set a boot flag on sda1. I'm using fdisk from util-linux 2.24.1 and in order to set it I need version 2.22 or earlier -- Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 10:25, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Joseph wrote: ls -al /boot/ total 8671 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root1024 Sep 4 14:29 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root4096 Sep 4 16:51 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 94478 Sep 4 11:41 config-3.14.14-gentoo drwxr-xr-x 6 root root

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new installation - partitions

2014-09-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM, James wrote: > Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:23 AM, James tampabay.rr.com> >> wrote: > >> Bottom line is that it is hard to measure Gentoo popularity. I've >> been using Gentoo since the early 2000s and in practice I can't really >

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 10:25, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Joseph wrote: ls -al /boot/ total 8671 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root1024 Sep 4 14:29 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root4096 Sep 4 16:51 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 94478 Sep 4 11:41 config-3.14.14-gentoo drwxr-xr-x 6 root root

[gentoo-user] {OT} Intel NUC install -- no display on OLED TV

2014-09-05 Thread Grant
I have a Gigabyte 2807 (technically not a NUC but basically the same thing) and nothing appears on the screen at all when it is connected to a 55" OLED TV via HDMI. Just a "no signal" message. I was planning to install Gentoo via a bootable USB stick but I don't even get a POST screen. http://www.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new installation - partitions

2014-09-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/09/2014 15:39, Rich Freeman wrote: >> The notable difference is Arch has some of the best documataion of any >> > linux distro; Gentoo struggles to document many key components. > Interestingly enough people used to say the same thing about Gentoo - > when I look at the Arch documents they te

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new installation - partitions

2014-09-05 Thread Jc García
2014-09-05 8:04 GMT-06:00 James : > Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > > >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:23 AM, James tampabay.rr.com> >> wrote: > >> Bottom line is that it is hard to measure Gentoo popularity. I've >> been using Gentoo since the early 2000s and in practice I can't really >> see any

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Joseph wrote: > ls -al /boot/ > total 8671 > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root1024 Sep 4 14:29 . > drwxr-xr-x 21 root root4096 Sep 4 16:51 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 94478 Sep 4 11:41 config-3.14.14-gentoo > drwxr-xr-x 6 root root1024 Sep 4 18:56 grub > -

[gentoo-user] Re: new installation - partitions

2014-09-05 Thread James
Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:23 AM, James tampabay.rr.com> > wrote: > Bottom line is that it is hard to measure Gentoo popularity. I've > been using Gentoo since the early 2000s and in practice I can't really > see any decline, even if there aren't as many devs

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 14:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 07:06:27 -0600, Joseph wrote: I made a typo my Bios is from around 2008 so it can not be EFI. So I need a "BIOS boot partition" which in my case is "/dev/sda1" but I don't need the /dev/sda2 - this is my 128M boot partition. My layout:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new installation - partitions

2014-09-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:23 AM, James wrote: > Both are rolling distros. Both can be build up from sources, although > Arch makes the binary install path the default for its (new) users, > as well as recovery of binaries that get deleted or become corrupted. Arch doesn't offer the equivalent of U

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 14:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 07:06:27 -0600, Joseph wrote: I made a typo my Bios is from around 2008 so it can not be EFI. So I need a "BIOS boot partition" which in my case is "/dev/sda1" but I don't need the /dev/sda2 - this is my 128M boot partition. My layout:

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 07:06:27 -0600, Joseph wrote: > I made a typo my Bios is from around 2008 so it can not be EFI. > So I need a "BIOS boot partition" which in my case is "/dev/sda1" but I > don't need the /dev/sda2 - this is my 128M boot partition. My layout: > > Device Start

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 13:44, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 06:37:00 -0600, Joseph wrote: My BIOS if from 1998 I think so it is not EFI. I don't think I'm suppose to be doing this EFI. "...UEFI (~EFI) is a firmware interface that is widespread on recent computers, especially those more recent t

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 06:37:00 -0600, Joseph wrote: > My BIOS if from 1998 I think so it is not EFI. > I don't think I'm suppose to be doing this EFI. > > "...UEFI (~EFI) is a firmware interface that is widespread on recent > computers, especially those more recent than 2010. It is intended to > re

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Joseph
On 09/05/14 09:04, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:46:14 -0600, Joseph wrote: >You need to mount /boot, and mount the EFI boot partition before >installing grub2 using `grub2-install --target=x86_64-efi`. How do I mount EFI boot partition? Is it the /dev/sda1 2M That's the BIOS co

[gentoo-user] Re: new installation - partitions

2014-09-05 Thread James
Jc García gmail.com> writes: > > Often, the Arch linux documents give one a more robust background for > > reading up on issues/choices related to Gentoo. After all, Arch is > > based > > on Gentoo and their documents are often a good compliment for reading > > up on issues you face with Gent

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD discard / fstrim

2014-09-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 04 September 2014 11:57:19 Joseph wrote: > This is my first SSD drive 480GB (the only one in the box). I read about > all discard / trim option and just want to double check that I'm doing it > correct. > > I setup standard Gentoo and per instruction in Handbook. > Not I'm reading abo

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:46:14 -0600, Joseph wrote: > >You need to mount /boot, and mount the EFI boot partition before > >installing grub2 using `grub2-install --target=x86_64-efi`. > > How do I mount EFI boot partition? > Is it the /dev/sda1 2M That's the BIOS compatibility partition. There a