Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
Thomas Mueller wrote: from Bruce Hill: To whoever controls this list... I just arrived home to find my mailbox spammed with hundreds of messages from this luser Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org What is the explanation for this please? I didn't get these spams. Are you sure they are from Andrew Savchenko? Check the headers: spammers are known to fake their email address. Tom I didn't get any here either. Unless Gmail filtered it which should be disabled. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
Am 26.12.2014 um 09:11 schrieb Dale: I didn't get any here either. Unless Gmail filtered it which should be disabled. me = 3rd one not getting them. Without gmail (but other antispam-measures ...). S
Re: [gentoo-user] public wifi blocking ports
On Friday 26 Dec 2014 02:49:37 Bill Kenworthy wrote: On 26/12/14 01:42, Joseph wrote: On 12/25/14 16:43, Bill Kenworthy wrote: On 25/12/14 15:43, Joseph wrote: I've installed zoiper (this is an softphone app to connect to my Asterisk server) on my old phone and it works on my private network over wifi. I'm using standard IAX port 4569 to register, so this port is open on my firewall. But when I catch an open public wifi network in a Mall or a Tim Horton zoiper failed to register. Do they block outgoing ports of public WiFi networks? What are my alternatives? I can open any port on my DD-Wrt and redirect it to my Asterisk server. Quite often happens in this part of the world. I run an openvpn ssl vpn on port 443 with an ssl multiplexor on the server end - route all the voip traffic through the vpn. Doesnt work well if bandwidth is really constrained but its the difference between having at least something or nothing at all. BillK I do run VoIP over vpn but that is between two points on cable connection and it works very well. But running vpn over wifi plus VoIP will not work very well if at all. Voice will be very choppy. Not necessarily - it depends on bandwidth at both ends (my server is on adsl.) The important point is port 443 and ssl for the VPN which gets past all blocking I have encountered so far though I have not noticed deep packet inspection using MITM yet. I am using self signed certs so it should show up if its attempted. What I have encountered is excessive latency on some open WIFI networks that makes voice conversation unpleasant. Do you use QoS at both ends? It could make a difference with ADSL. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful
On Friday 26 Dec 2014 00:44:50 Neil Bothwick wrote: On 25 December 2014 09:42:16 GMT+00:00, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 25 Dec 2014 09:20:15 Tom H wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:17:19 -0500 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with sysrescuecd-4.4.1. Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error: error: no suitable mode found. Booting in blind mode How about booting without Secure Boot? I am booting without secure boot and get the same error I'm sorry. I saw secure boot and assumed that you were trying to boot from an unsigned kernel. Your error message above looks like a grub error. Does your grub.cfg load two efi_something video modules? There is no grub on the PC, and the sysrescue LiveCD uses isolinux from what I recall. For some reason when booting in EFI mode, sysrescueCD can't find a suitable mode for my LCD monitor. I think sysrescd uses GRUB for UEFI booting. I have successfully booted and installed UEFI systems from sysrescd, but not 4.4.1. Have yotried another version? u Thanks Neil, I didn't know this. I managed to complete my installation because I had ethernet access to the box, but German (the OP) was not able to. Perhaps he should try an older version, or rebuild the sysrescuecd with the appropriate Grub options to boot in EFI with the relevant Grub video mode/drivers. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
On Dec 26, 2014, at 10:15, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 26.12.2014 um 09:11 schrieb Dale: I didn't get any here either. Unless Gmail filtered it which should be disabled. me = 3rd one not getting them. Without gmail (but other antispam-measures ...). +1
[gentoo-user] (lack of) spam on list
On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote: On Dec 26, 2014, at 10:15, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 26.12.2014 um 09:11 schrieb Dale: I didn't get any here either. Unless Gmail filtered it which should be disabled. me = 3rd one not getting them. Without gmail (but other antispam-measures ...). +1 About the closest thing I've gotten to spam on this list is all the replies to this email, which do not seem to have anything to do with ceph on Gentoo despite being placed in a thread with this subject. Keep in mind that the contents of the From line have very little to do with how you actually got the email. Full headers are far more useful. -- Rich
[gentoo-user] Removing openrc after installing systemd
Just curious; is this even possible? `emerge --depclean --ask --verbose sys-apps/openrc` gives: Calculating dependencies... done! sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4 pulled in by: @system requires sys-apps/openrc net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2 requires =sys-apps/openrc-0.12 virtual/service-manager-0 requires sys-apps/openrc wat? netifrc is a bunch of udev/networking stuff; I use wicd, is this even necessary? FYI, `emerge --depclean --ask --verbose netifrc` gives: Calculating dependencies... done! net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2 pulled in by: sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4 requires net-misc/netifrc I'd rather not have both installed, although it doesn't really matter that much. It makes sense that @system requires virtual/service-manager, but why on earth does systemd not provide that virtual? I just checked the ebuild and eclass to make sure. Alec
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing openrc after installing systemd
On 12/26/2014 07:10 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: Just curious; is this even possible? `emerge --depclean --ask --verbose sys-apps/openrc` gives: Calculating dependencies... done! sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4 pulled in by: @system requires sys-apps/openrc net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2 requires =sys-apps/openrc-0.12 virtual/service-manager-0 requires sys-apps/openrc wat? netifrc is a bunch of udev/networking stuff; I use wicd, is this even necessary? FYI, `emerge --depclean --ask --verbose netifrc` gives: Calculating dependencies... done! net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2 pulled in by: sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4 requires net-misc/netifrc I'd rather not have both installed, although it doesn't really matter that much. It makes sense that @system requires virtual/service-manager, but why on earth does systemd not provide that virtual? I just checked the ebuild and eclass to make sure. Alec I installed systemd some time ago but I'm keeping openrc around in case it doesn't boot. I wonder if it's possible to remove openrc and have systemd only, I've never tried... These are just the scripts and support stuff openrc uses for networking, I myself would keep it around in case the other methods fail. Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing openrc after installing systemd
On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: Just curious; is this even possible? `emerge --depclean --ask --verbose sys-apps/openrc` gives: Calculating dependencies... done! sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4 pulled in by: @system requires sys-apps/openrc net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2 requires =sys-apps/openrc-0.12 virtual/service-manager-0 requires sys-apps/openrc wat? netifrc is a bunch of udev/networking stuff; I use wicd, is this even necessary? FYI, `emerge --depclean --ask --verbose netifrc` gives: Calculating dependencies... done! net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2 pulled in by: sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4 requires net-misc/netifrc I'd rather not have both installed, although it doesn't really matter that much. It makes sense that @system requires virtual/service-manager, but why on earth does systemd not provide that virtual? I just checked the ebuild and eclass to make sure. Mmmh. No ebuild in the tree provides any virtual. A virtual *specifies* which packages can satisfy it: RDEPEND= prefix? ( =sys-apps/baselayout-prefix-2.2 ) !prefix? ( || ( sys-apps/openrc kernel_linux? ( || ( sys-apps/systemd sys-process/runit virtual/daemontools ) ) ) ) This is from virtual/service-manager/service-manager-0.ebuild. As you can see, with kernel_linux, systemd satisfies the virtual. OpenRC is being pulled in by something else, I believe netifrc. Check what is pulling netifrc, which in turn pulls in OpenRC. I think you should be able to get rid of it. It's totally possible to uninstall OpenRC; I haven't had it installed in years. Nowadays you don't even need to do any tricks to do it. (I have sys-fs/udev-init-scripts in package.provided, but only because it's completely useless to me: those are the udev scripts for OpenRC when sys-apps/systemd is installed instead of sys-fs/udev). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing openrc after installing systemd
On 12/26/2014 11:38 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com mailto:a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: Just curious; is this even possible? `emerge --depclean --ask --verbose sys-apps/openrc` gives: Calculating dependencies... done! sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4 pulled in by: @system requires sys-apps/openrc net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2 requires =sys-apps/openrc-0.12 virtual/service-manager-0 requires sys-apps/openrc wat? netifrc is a bunch of udev/networking stuff; I use wicd, is this even necessary? FYI, `emerge --depclean --ask --verbose netifrc` gives: Calculating dependencies... done! net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2 pulled in by: sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4 requires net-misc/netifrc I'd rather not have both installed, although it doesn't really matter that much. It makes sense that @system requires virtual/service-manager, but why on earth does systemd not provide that virtual? I just checked the ebuild and eclass to make sure. Mmmh. No ebuild in the tree provides any virtual. A virtual *specifies* which packages can satisfy it: RDEPEND= prefix? ( =sys-apps/baselayout-prefix-2.2 ) !prefix? ( || ( sys-apps/openrc kernel_linux? ( || ( sys-apps/systemd sys-process/runit virtual/daemontools ) ) ) ) *facepalm*... I didn't look at this. embarrassing. This is from virtual/service-manager/service-manager-0.ebuild. As you can see, with kernel_linux, systemd satisfies the virtual. OpenRC is being pulled in by something else, I believe netifrc. Check what is pulling netifrc, which in turn pulls in OpenRC. I think you should be able to get rid of it. OpenRC is pulled in by @system - even `emerge -ca openrc netifrc` won't proceed because OpenRC is in @system. As for kernel_linux, is this something that can go in make.conf (i.e. KERNEL=linux)? It's totally possible to uninstall OpenRC; I haven't had it installed in years. Nowadays you don't even need to do any tricks to do it. I got rid of it (emerge --unmerge, hehe). Some red text warning me of removing system software, but whatever. Subsequent world updates and depcleans show no changes except getting rid of sysvinit. Thanks Canek. Alec
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing openrc after installing systemd
On 12/26/2014 12:56 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: It's totally possible to uninstall OpenRC; I haven't had it installed in years. Nowadays you don't even need to do any tricks to do it. I got rid of it (emerge --unmerge, hehe). Some red text warning me of removing system software, but whatever. Subsequent world updates and depcleans show no changes except getting rid of sysvinit. Thanks Canek. This isn't totally safe yet, but you'll be fine if you know what you're doing. OpenRC is still in @system because it provides /etc/init.d/functions.sh, and some other packages still depend on that location. You can check b.g.o. for a list of packages that need to be fixed to depend on the newer /lib/gentoo/functions.sh: https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=functions.sh
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing openrc after installing systemd
On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 12/26/2014 11:38 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: Just curious; is this even possible? `emerge --depclean --ask --verbose sys-apps/openrc` gives: Calculating dependencies... done! sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4 pulled in by: @system requires sys-apps/openrc net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2 requires =sys-apps/openrc-0.12 virtual/service-manager-0 requires sys-apps/openrc wat? netifrc is a bunch of udev/networking stuff; I use wicd, is this even necessary? FYI, `emerge --depclean --ask --verbose netifrc` gives: Calculating dependencies... done! net-misc/netifrc-0.2.2 pulled in by: sys-apps/openrc-0.12.4 requires net-misc/netifrc I'd rather not have both installed, although it doesn't really matter that much. It makes sense that @system requires virtual/service-manager, but why on earth does systemd not provide that virtual? I just checked the ebuild and eclass to make sure. Mmmh. No ebuild in the tree provides any virtual. A virtual *specifies* which packages can satisfy it: RDEPEND= prefix? ( =sys-apps/baselayout-prefix-2.2 ) !prefix? ( || ( sys-apps/openrc kernel_linux? ( || ( sys-apps/systemd sys-process/runit virtual/daemontools ) ) ) ) *facepalm*... I didn't look at this. embarrassing. This is from virtual/service-manager/service-manager-0.ebuild. As you can see, with kernel_linux, systemd satisfies the virtual. OpenRC is being pulled in by something else, I believe netifrc. Check what is pulling netifrc, which in turn pulls in OpenRC. I think you should be able to get rid of it. OpenRC is pulled in by @system - even `emerge -ca openrc netifrc` won't proceed because OpenRC is in @system. Yeah; you are right, I had to put -*sys-apps/openrc -*sys-apps/net-tools in /etc/portage/profile/packages so portage would stop bothering me about those two. Sorry, I forgot about that. As for kernel_linux, is this something that can go in make.conf (i.e. KERNEL=linux)? I think you should not play with that. But that's me. It's totally possible to uninstall OpenRC; I haven't had it installed in years. Nowadays you don't even need to do any tricks to do it. I got rid of it (emerge --unmerge, hehe). Some red text warning me of removing system software, but whatever. Subsequent world updates and depcleans show no changes except getting rid of sysvinit. Off with its head. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] Syslog-ng is writing binary
Hello list, For some time now I've had syslog-ng writing /var/log/messages in a binary format: # file /var/log/messages /var/log/messages: data # grep syslog-ng /var/log/messages Binary file /var/log/messages matches Yet: # head /var/log/messages Dec 21 03:10:02 wstn run-crons[29014]: (root) CMD (/etc/cron.daily/man-db) [...] Can I use the following method to restore the original text format of /var/log/messages? 1. Boot rescue system and mount main system 2. # cd /mnt/main/var/log 3. # mv messages messages.bin 4. # strings messages.bin messages 5. # rm messages.bin 6. Reboot. I tried steps 1 - 4 and got a text file with very long lines, but I chickened out before rebooting. It would be nice to find a config setting that's changed, but the change log is silent and the admin guide gives me a headache :-( -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 06:20:05PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: Hi, On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 15:22:26 +0100 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Anyone here running ceph / http://ceph.com/ on gentoo? As server(s) or client or ... ? I am learning about this right now and currently on my way to a first small test cluster. Very interesting possibilities ! We used it about a year ago for our infrastructure (backup and live sync of HA systems), obviously both servers and clients were used, both on Gentoo. We stopped this because of numerous kernel panics, not to mention that it was quite slow even after tuning. So we switch to another solution for data sync and backups: clsync. (It was developed from scratch for our needs, this is not a filesystem, but may be considered as more powerful alternative to lsyncd.) Though this was a year ago or so. Your mileage may vary and it is likely that during this year stability was improved. Ceph is very promising by both design and capabilities. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko Andrew, Can you answer why my email client has HUNDREDS of the same reply from you in this thread? I've never seen this behavior in my life. Thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: Can you answer why my email client has HUNDREDS of the same reply from you in this thread? I've never seen this behavior in my life. Can you take this off the list? If you want somebody from Gentoo to confirm that the list had nothing to do with this I suggest filing a bug or contacting infra@g.o. There are many things that could cause the behavior you see, and most of them have nothing to do with Andrew. If you'd like to receive a few thousand emails from santacl...@north.pole care of the list of your choice just let me know. -- Rich
