Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting vanilla kernel 4.1.x
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Peter Weilbacher
newss...@weilbacher.org wrote:
Hi Alexander,
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Peter Weilbacher newss...@weilbacher.org
wrote:
after successfully using kernel 4.0.5 (vanilla-sources) for a while, I
upgraded to 4.1.5 last week and 4.1.6 today. I cannot boot either of
them. On the screen I see
Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF... done.
Booting the kernel.
as the last thing, then it just sits there.
I am running vanilla-sources 4.1.6, and so far I have not had any
trouble booting it.
Are you able to boot some of your previous kernels? If so, what does
your '/boot/grub/grub.cfg' look like?
What is the output of 'cat /etc/fstab' and 'ls -1 /boot'?
I can still boot 4.0.5 fine, with the same setup. I use lilo, and I
checked that I changed the two/four digits correctly in /etc/lilo.conf.
By chance I left the boot sit there for more than the typical minute,
and got multiple messages like
INFO: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU { 3} (t=6 jiffies g=-256
c=-257 q=193)
rcu_sched kthread starved for 50027 jiffies!
right after the above Booting the kernel. line.
Do I need to activate a different kind of clocking or a CPU feature in
4.1.x?
Peter.
I've never experienced this particular kernel trouble myself, so I'm
not sure if my input would be of much help.
Here's what the kernel documentation has to say about this kind of issue:
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt:29,33
CONFIG_RCU_CPU_STALL_INFO
This kernel configuration parameter causes the stall warning to
print out additional per-CPU diagnostic information, including
information on scheduling-clock ticks and RCU's idle-CPU tracking.
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt:104,109
If the CONFIG_RCU_CPU_STALL_INFO kernel configuration parameter is set,
more information is printed with the stall-warning message, for example:
INFO: rcu_preempt detected stall on CPU
0: (63959 ticks this GP) idle=241/3fff/0 softirq=82/543
(t=65000 jiffies)
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt:240,250
To diagnose the cause of the stall, inspect the stack traces.
The offending function will usually be near the top of the stack.
If you have a series of stall warnings from a single extended stall,
comparing the stack traces can often help determine where the stall
is occurring, which will usually be in the function nearest the top of
that portion of the stack which remains the same from trace to trace.
If you can reliably trigger the stall, ftrace can be quite helpful.
RCU bugs can often be debugged with the help of CONFIG_RCU_TRACE
and with RCU's event tracing. For information on RCU's event tracing,
see include/trace/events/rcu.h.
Have a look for possibly stack traces in these log files:
/var/log/{messages,dmesg}.
Hopefully, someone else with more kernel debugging experience will
have something more substantial to say about this.
Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more
On 25/08/2015 19:43, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:30:09 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 25/08/2015 04:28, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468?
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468
It's been annoying me for a week now with this message:
!!! existing preserved libs:
package: www-client/firefox-40.0.2
* - /usr/lib64/firefox/libmozalloc.so
* used by /usr/lib64/thunderbird/components/libdbusservice.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by /usr/lib64/thunderbird/components/libmozgnome.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/distribution/extensions/{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-
a41df1933103}/components/libcalbasecomps.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by 4 other files
Both Mozilla products ship this file:
$ locate libmozalloc
/usr/lib64/firefox/libmozalloc.so
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/libmozalloc.so
and according to preserved libs, thunderbird linked to the firefox copy.
The only offered solution on the bug is to use a MASK variable, which
seems to me an ugly hammer to swat a fly.
I was wondering if there's a better way been developed in the last year.
Actually, now I have a general idea of what's going on and that sounds
like an
acceptable solution but perhaps I could be better. This is what happens:
1. revdep-rebuild uses ldd to find breakage. It finds breakage in
libdbusservice.so because firefox uses tricks to preload the library from
it's
directory.
2. revdep-rebuild find that thunderbird provides the library and thinks it
needs to be rebuild. (And wrongly tells you that firefox links against it).
A better way would be:
1. same as step 1 above
2. revdep-rebuild checks the package that provides the broken binary (in
this
case the firefox package), if this package also provides the missing
library
then it's safe to ignore the problem.
3. same as step 2 above.
Another solution is to make patch firefox to use RPATH so ldd can find the
labraries, this would also make prelink work better with firefox but it's
probably not ideal to mantain.
that does make sense. In my case, it's not revdep-rebuild causing
problems, it's the preserved-rebuild message at the end of emerge -v
At this level is there a difference?
I don't know the details but it seems to me that portage either uses revdep-
rebuild to find breakage (without scanning the whole system) before deleting
the old libs for good or duplicates some of it's logic. Come to think of it,
the SEARCH_DIR_MASK may not be ideal because if I understand what it does
correctly then real breakage in firefox won't be detected.
My thought too. To me, SEARCH_DIR_MASK is fine for things like
/opt/skype because it's binary and either works or it doesn't, and when
it doesn't there's not much I can do about it.
It may be the least sucky of all available solutions, but it's still
swatting a fly with a hammer
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:30:09 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 25/08/2015 04:28, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468?
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468
It's been annoying me for a week now with this message:
!!! existing preserved libs:
package: www-client/firefox-40.0.2
* - /usr/lib64/firefox/libmozalloc.so
* used by /usr/lib64/thunderbird/components/libdbusservice.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by /usr/lib64/thunderbird/components/libmozgnome.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/distribution/extensions/{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-
a41df1933103}/components/libcalbasecomps.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by 4 other files
Both Mozilla products ship this file:
$ locate libmozalloc
/usr/lib64/firefox/libmozalloc.so
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/libmozalloc.so
and according to preserved libs, thunderbird linked to the firefox copy.
The only offered solution on the bug is to use a MASK variable, which
seems to me an ugly hammer to swat a fly.
I was wondering if there's a better way been developed in the last year.
Actually, now I have a general idea of what's going on and that sounds
like an
acceptable solution but perhaps I could be better. This is what happens:
1. revdep-rebuild uses ldd to find breakage. It finds breakage in
libdbusservice.so because firefox uses tricks to preload the library from
it's
directory.
2. revdep-rebuild find that thunderbird provides the library and thinks it
needs to be rebuild. (And wrongly tells you that firefox links against it).
A better way would be:
1. same as step 1 above
2. revdep-rebuild checks the package that provides the broken binary (in
this
case the firefox package), if this package also provides the missing
library
then it's safe to ignore the problem.
3. same as step 2 above.
Another solution is to make patch firefox to use RPATH so ldd can find the
labraries, this would also make prelink work better with firefox but it's
probably not ideal to mantain.
that does make sense. In my case, it's not revdep-rebuild causing
problems, it's the preserved-rebuild message at the end of emerge -v
At this level is there a difference?
I don't know the details but it seems to me that portage either uses revdep-
rebuild to find breakage (without scanning the whole system) before deleting
the old libs for good or duplicates some of it's logic. Come to think of it,
the SEARCH_DIR_MASK may not be ideal because if I understand what it does
correctly then real breakage in firefox won't be detected.
--
Fernando Rodriguez
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] nepomuk gone, baloo enters
2015-08-24 15:57 GMT-03:00 Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com: On Monday, August 24, 2015 11:31:04 AM Francisco Ares wrote: 2015-08-24 10:13 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-24 9:14 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: Thanks, Dale, for your point of view. But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-) )and I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for instance, I still want to try to make this semantic desktop thing to work. Thanks, again, and Best Regards Francisco 2015-08-21 22:36 GMT-03:00 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote: Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details, it shows: Action: Folder Watch Limit polkit.subject-pid:5254 polkit.caller-pid: 6699 Looking for those PIDs: ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254 5254 ?00:00:07 baloo_file and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already ended. Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the database it might be willing to use? Thank you all. Francisco Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this feature of KDE. Why not disable the thing? I have this in make.conf: -nepomuk -semantic-desktop So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also found to be a pest and never needed. Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware. Dale :-) :-) Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to access my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what I've read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss important features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your home directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing that I still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it. I used to use Kmail until all this mess started. I think the last I used Kmail was back in KDE3. When I saw all this mess coming, I switched to Seamonkey. Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy with it. I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho. Maybe I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't work. Sound works everywhere else. Still, it does what I really need without to much bloat. I installed KDE with the kde-meta. It basically installs everything but the kitchen sink. To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use. This file indexer thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for. If I want to find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions. It is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff. Well, computer files at least. My closet and shop is a different matter tho. lol My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed. If it is needed, then fixing it is the solution. If it is not, disable it and shove the problem into the trash can. ;-) Dale :-) :-) Thanks to all that have posted. I tried a clean start: I've deleted all related (at least all that I could find) files used by baloo (just kept some backup copies in a ZIP file, just in case). As expected, all of them are back, and also that popup window, requiring root password. I guess, now, I am (we are) looking on the wrong place, perhaps this is a global setting, not a user one. Going to check this out. Thanks again, and Best Regards Francisco Found this: ~ # cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf !DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd; busconfig !-- Only user root can own the foo helper -- policy user=root allow own=org.kde.baloo.filewatch/ /policy /busconfig Looks like there might be something related to what I am facing, isn't it? Googling the file name, I got this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339465 https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/2ibdf7/what_is_baloo_file_watch_and_why_does_it_need/
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)
On 08/25/2015 03:21 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 02:56:10PM +0200, Ralf wrote: Hi folks, i just got my brand new Lenovo X1 Carbon and trying to get Gentoo running on it. I have a big problem with my kernel: It doesn't come back from standby. After closing the lid, the standby LED starts breathing, opening the lid doesn't change anything, even pressing the power button does not wake up the system. The only option is to reset the system by holding down the power button. Journalctl doesn't say anything except of System reboot after the Standby message: ralf@omega:~$ sudo journalctl | grep -i lid closed -A 10 130 Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-logind[2075]: Lid closed. Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-logind[2075]: Suspending... Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd[1]: Reached target Sleep. Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd[1]: Starting Suspend... Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-sleep[2175]: Suspending system... -- Reboot -- .. So I tried installing Arch linux (same kernel version, 4.1.6). Arch wakes up without any problems. As a try and quick fixI copied the Arch Kernel+Modules to my Gentoo system and it works fine, which means to me that I probably have a misconfigured kernel. But that's not the Gentoo way, I'd like to compile the kernel on my own. Cool, at least it is supported. I know someone with that got a brand new Lenovo about a year ago and had loads of issues with it, even with the bleeding edge kernels in Arch. Does anyone know what I might be missing in my kernel config? Or does anyone also have a X1 Carbon 3rd generation and would like to share the .config with me? Do you have SUSPEND=y (just checking)? Other things that I can see related to suspend are SUSPEND_FREEZER, ACPI_SLEEP, APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND, and a bunch of Thinkpad/Lenovo related options. I do not have suspend enabled on my laptop, so take this with a grain of salt. Yeah, everything is set, even THINKPAD_ACPI. Still does not wake up :-( If you want to search various kernel options, you can run `make menuconfig` in the source directory and use '/' (forward slash) to search just like you're in `less'. Alec
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)
On 08/25/2015 03:35 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 25/08/2015 14:56, Ralf wrote: Hi folks, i just got my brand new Lenovo X1 Carbon and trying to get Gentoo running on it. Beside some really big issues (HiDPI display, 2048x1152 resolution on a 14 display really sucks on linux, xrandr scaling is horrible, no scaling is damn too small to read, missing touch support in most applications, ...) I have a big problem with my kernel: It doesn't come back from standby. After closing the lid, the standby LED starts breathing, opening the lid doesn't change anything, even pressing the power button does not wake up the system. The only option is to reset the system by holding down the power button. Journalctl doesn't say anything except of System reboot after the Standby message: ralf@omega:~$ sudo journalctl | grep -i lid closed -A 10 130 Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-logind[2075]: Lid closed. Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-logind[2075]: Suspending... Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd[1]: Reached target Sleep. Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd[1]: Starting Suspend... Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-sleep[2175]: Suspending system... -- Reboot -- .. So I tried installing Arch linux (same kernel version, 4.1.6). Arch wakes up without any problems. As a try and quick fixI copied the Arch Kernel+Modules to my Gentoo system and it works fine, which means to me that I probably have a misconfigured kernel. But that's not the Gentoo way, I'd like to compile the kernel on my own. Does anyone know what I might be missing in my kernel config? Or does anyone also have a X1 Carbon 3rd generation and would like to share the .config with me? Grab the .config files from both running systems and diff them. Expect the output to be long but with care you can narrow down the important differences. I also had that idea. The problem is, that Arch uses almost _everything_ as module. So it's hard to figure out the critical module...
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 06:38:16PM +0200, Ralf wrote: On 08/25/2015 03:21 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: Do you have SUSPEND=y (just checking)? Other things that I can see related to suspend are SUSPEND_FREEZER, ACPI_SLEEP, APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND, and a bunch of Thinkpad/Lenovo related options. I do not have suspend enabled on my laptop, so take this with a grain of salt. Yeah, everything is set, even THINKPAD_ACPI. Still does not wake up :-( If you still have the Arch kernel, could you run `lsmod' when that kernel is booted and diff it against an `lsmod' when your Gentoo kernel is booted? If that doesn't help, could you attach your config to a reply? Alec
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)
Hi, On 08/25/2015 03:45 PM, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: I have a T440s and would expect the two to be quite similar from an ACPI point of view, so let's see if I can help. On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Ralf wrote: It doesn't come back from standby. After closing the lid, the standby LED starts breathing, opening the lid doesn't change anything, even pressing the power button does not wake up the system. The only option is to reset the system by holding down the power button. This might be a long-shot but could you check cat /proc/acpi/wakeup The lid-wakeup action can be toggled there. I also have a SLPB device in that file, which could map to the power button in some cases? I compared the /proc/acpi/wakup of both kernels - they equal. So that's not the problem As a try and quick fixI copied the Arch Kernel+Modules to my Gentoo system and it works fine, which means to me that I probably have a misconfigured kernel. But that's not the Gentoo way, I'd like to compile the kernel on my own. You could try diffing your config with the arch kernel config. Should be present in /boot. Then look for suspicious differences, it's not as hard as it seems, I've done it with the fedora kernel to solve problems. The problem is, that Arch uses almost everything as modules. I have a full-disc encrypted gentoo and I need a lot of stuff to be statically compiled, as I don't want to have modules inside my initrd. Anyway, I'll try it out. Does anyone know what I might be missing in my kernel config? Try my config (attached), I don't know how it compares to the arch one but suspend/resume works correctly here. It may be easier to pinpoint the cause with it. You'll have to enable systemd. Thanks for your config! I tried it - just made a few adjustements (statically compiled dm-crypt and crypto modules). Still the same problem.. Ralf
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim
Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: Are you going to roll out some notes on putting raid-1::btrfs onto HD? Or just the VM install? Sure. What about an example fstab using names and UUIDs at the same time, or and fstab with UUID and one with labels if they cannot be used simultaneously in the same fstab. (boot root and swap only :: just to keep it simple) The notes should work just fine for installing that on an HD. Is there something you found missing in them? I'm working on setting up a bunch of old boxes to test installations on actual hardware. Part of that is more AC and UPS capacity in the lab. Wiring and more breakers (AFCI/GFI) so the project has grown and there are other non related HW issues I'm working on too. The only thing they aren't targeted at is EFI. I'd need to mess with that a bit in a VM as I do not have any EFI hardware other than my chromebook, which seems fussier than most as far as what it boots. Yep. Previously we have discuss MBR/EFI grub1-grub2, gpt ( wT disks) and tools to effect the (/boot/root/swap). And then there is the need for a quick or unattended install semantic, before I can rigorously test those many conflicts. I'll start a new thread when I'm ready. Best guess is a few weeks. thx, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting vanilla kernel 4.1.x
Hi Alexander,
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Peter Weilbacher newss...@weilbacher.org
wrote:
after successfully using kernel 4.0.5 (vanilla-sources) for a while, I
upgraded to 4.1.5 last week and 4.1.6 today. I cannot boot either of
them. On the screen I see
Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF... done.
Booting the kernel.
as the last thing, then it just sits there.
I am running vanilla-sources 4.1.6, and so far I have not had any
trouble booting it.
Are you able to boot some of your previous kernels? If so, what does
your '/boot/grub/grub.cfg' look like?
What is the output of 'cat /etc/fstab' and 'ls -1 /boot'?
I can still boot 4.0.5 fine, with the same setup. I use lilo, and I
checked that I changed the two/four digits correctly in /etc/lilo.conf.
By chance I left the boot sit there for more than the typical minute,
and got multiple messages like
INFO: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU { 3} (t=6 jiffies g=-256
c=-257 q=193)
rcu_sched kthread starved for 50027 jiffies!
right after the above Booting the kernel. line.
Do I need to activate a different kind of clocking or a CPU feature in
4.1.x?
Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using xfce4 with compositing turned off?
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:10:28 +0200 waben...@gmail.com wrote: Kernel driver in use: radeon gigabytes snipped for readability Hi wabe. This whole radeon thing is so confusing I thought I'd mention one more very confusing detail that I had to fix before I got the open- source ati/radeon driver to work correctly: First I tried starting my X session with no xorg.conf file at all. That didn't work but of course I can't remember now what went wrong. (That was already more than 24 hours ago :) It's good to know that I'm not the only one with a week memory. Every day I thank God for these little yellow post-it stickers. :-) Then I generated an xorg.conf in the old way using 'Xorg -configure'. That file didn't work right either. Then I finally realized that the generated xorg.conf had, in the Section Device section, this line: Driverradeon But that's not what we want. To use the open-source ati driver I changed that line to read: Driverati And that's when everything finally started to work perfectly. That's strange. What kind of GPU do you have? With my R7 250E I must use radeon as driver in xorg.conf. IIRC I also used the same config for my old GPU (Radeon HD4550). One more thing that confused me: the xf86-video-ati package doesn't install any kernel modules. It installs only these two files: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so That's ok. It's the same on my system. BTW: I don't use any kernel modules at all. but to use those files you need that Driver ati line in xorg.conf. sigh Below you find my complete xorg.conf. Actually I don't know if my X would also work without the device section. What I remember is that I had trouble to get my keyboard working without the InputDevice section. But this is some years ago. Meanwhile I have a new keyboard and maybe I don't need a xorg.conf anymore. I will test this soon, if I don't forget it. :-) Section InputDevice Driverkbd IdentifierKeyboard[0] OptionAutoRepeat500 2 OptionProtocol Standard OptionXkbModel pc105 OptionXkbLayout de OptionXkbVariantnodeadkeys EndSection Section Device IdentifierATI-Card Driverradeon EndSection -- Regards wabe
Re: [gentoo-user] keeping grub 1
Hi James! Am 25.08.2015 um 20:44 schrieb James: If I just unmerge grub and emerge grub-static, is that the best way to prevent grub-2 from ever being installed? If you want to keep your good old sys-boot/grub:0, just put exactly that into your world file, including with the slot-version (the :0 at the end). At least in the main portage tree, grub-2 uses slot 2, whereas grub-1 stays in slot 0. Alternatively you could put something like =sys-boot/grub-2 or even sys-boot/grub:2 into package.mask. HTH, --Flo
Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:58:44 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 25/08/2015 19:43, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:30:09 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 25/08/2015 04:28, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468?
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468
It's been annoying me for a week now with this message:
!!! existing preserved libs:
package: www-client/firefox-40.0.2
* - /usr/lib64/firefox/libmozalloc.so
* used by /usr/lib64/thunderbird/components/libdbusservice.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by /usr/lib64/thunderbird/components/libmozgnome.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/distribution/extensions/{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-
b5ad-
a41df1933103}/components/libcalbasecomps.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by 4 other files
Both Mozilla products ship this file:
$ locate libmozalloc
/usr/lib64/firefox/libmozalloc.so
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/libmozalloc.so
and according to preserved libs, thunderbird linked to the firefox copy.
The only offered solution on the bug is to use a MASK variable, which
seems to me an ugly hammer to swat a fly.
I was wondering if there's a better way been developed in the last
year.
Actually, now I have a general idea of what's going on and that sounds
like an
acceptable solution but perhaps I could be better. This is what happens:
1. revdep-rebuild uses ldd to find breakage. It finds breakage in
libdbusservice.so because firefox uses tricks to preload the library from
it's
directory.
2. revdep-rebuild find that thunderbird provides the library and thinks
it
needs to be rebuild. (And wrongly tells you that firefox links against
it).
A better way would be:
1. same as step 1 above
2. revdep-rebuild checks the package that provides the broken binary (in
this
case the firefox package), if this package also provides the missing
library
then it's safe to ignore the problem.
3. same as step 2 above.
Another solution is to make patch firefox to use RPATH so ldd can find
the
labraries, this would also make prelink work better with firefox but it's
probably not ideal to mantain.
that does make sense. In my case, it's not revdep-rebuild causing
problems, it's the preserved-rebuild message at the end of emerge -v
At this level is there a difference?
I don't know the details but it seems to me that portage either uses
revdep-
rebuild to find breakage (without scanning the whole system) before
deleting
the old libs for good or duplicates some of it's logic. Come to think of
it,
the SEARCH_DIR_MASK may not be ideal because if I understand what it does
correctly then real breakage in firefox won't be detected.
My thought too. To me, SEARCH_DIR_MASK is fine for things like
/opt/skype because it's binary and either works or it doesn't, and when
it doesn't there's not much I can do about it.
It may be the least sucky of all available solutions, but it's still
swatting a fly with a hammer
Maybe the bug should be filed against portage to get the right people to look
at it. The fix should be simple, just check the package with the broken binary
first. It seems to use lexical order so it finds firefox before thunderbird.
It would benefit binary packages too. You cannot rebuild skype but you can
preserve the library until the vendor releases a new binary. You would get an
endless preseved-libs loop for it but that's preferable to a broken skype.
--
Fernando Rodriguez
[gentoo-user] keeping grub 1
Hello, So on one particular (openrc) system, I have no interest in grub-2 or any other bootloaders. I see grub is both grub 1 and grub 2. If I just unmerge grub and emerge grub-static, is that the best way to prevent grub-2 from ever being installed? Other caveats to worry about? TIA, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)
Ralf ralf+gen...@ramses-pyramidenbau.de wrote: Hi folks, i just got my brand new Lenovo X1 Carbon and trying to get Gentoo running on it. Beside some really big issues (HiDPI display, 2048x1152 resolution on a 14 display really sucks on linux, xrandr scaling is horrible, no scaling is damn too small to read, missing touch support in most I also have some HiDPI display (140 DPI) but text and icon rendering is perfect with XFCE. It's even much better than with my windows 7 machine. Your display has a higher resolution (168 DPI) but I don't think that this makes a big difference. Maybe there is a way to tweak your Desktop settings for a better rendering/scaling? -- Regards wabe
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using xfce4 with compositing turned off?
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 03:08:41 waben...@gmail.com wrote: walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seeing horrible performance from the xfce window manager (xfwm4) on my main, everyday machine, but not on an older backup machine or on any of the linux virtual machines I run on virtualbox. The symptoms: moving a window with the mouse is so slow as to be painful, and the CPU usage (on one of four CPUs) jumps to 100% almost immediately (xfwm4 is the culprit, see below). I'm using XFCE as DE and xfwm4 as WM. Since I bought a new GPU (Radeon R7 250), I don't use compositing any more because it causes tearing when I watch videos in fullscreen with 3840x2160. With this GPU I also had some random freezes when compositing was enabled. Beside this, performance is very good, regardless compositing is enabled or disabled. Scrolling text or moving windows around is a bit faster and smoother with compositing enabled, especially when other windows are in the foreground. With my old GPU (Radeon HD4550) I always had compositing enabled. Everything was smoother and I saw absolutely no glitches, but performance was also good with compositing disabled, just not quite as smooth as with compositing enabled. If I open an xterm and run (for example) /usr/bin/marco --replace, this sluggish behavior returns to normal immediately. After wasting hours on google I finally noticed that I had compiled x11-wm/xfwm4 with the xcomposite useflag disabled, so I enabled it and re-emerged xfwm4. Now I can get decent performance from xfwm4, but only if first I turn on compositing by running xfwm4-tweaks-settings. (No, not by running the puny and feeble xfwm4-settings app: I need to invoke a tweak to make xfce4 an acceptable Desktop Environment on my main desktop machine. As long as I use XFCE (many years) xfwm4-tweaks-settings is the program to toggle compositing. It's just a name, what is the problem? :-) Or do you mean, that you must enable compositing every time you start XFCE? official rant mode I remember going through this same frustration with gnome3, which was (and is) unusable without installing the gnome-tweak-tool package and using it to customize settings that I still don't understand. (That's why I finally gave up on gnome3, and I may yet give up on xfce4 and go back to mate.) Note that I'm not turning off official rant mode yet, but I should mention that this machine is ~amd64 with ati-drivers-15.7 and vanilla kernel 3.14.51. (Same problem with gentoo-sources-3.18.19, BTW.) I'm using stable xf86-video-ati and stable hardened-sources. I never used ati-drivers because I don't like to have proprietary software on my gentoo box. For me xf86-video-ati works well and has a sufficient 2D and 3D performance. -- Regards wabe Hmm ... interesting. I have a PC with the Kaveri APU, which also uses the R7 graphics engine, but compositing has no problems for general desktop usage (with two monitors). 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25 Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at f000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=8M] I/O ports at f000 [size=256] Memory at feb0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K] Expansion ROM at feb4 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [48] Vendor Specific Information: Len=08 ? Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [58] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=010 ? Capabilities: [270] #19 Capabilities: [2b0] Address Translation Service (ATS) Capabilities: [2c0] #13 Capabilities: [2d0] #1b Kernel driver in use: radeon I don't know if your card is significantly different, but can share settings if you are interested. Hi Mick, it seems that there are some differences (see below) but I'm interested in your settings anyway. Maybe they help me to make compositing usable on my system, but actually I don't have much hope that this will be the case. Without composite, my system is rock stable and video playback is smooth. First I missed the fancy window/menu shadows and the semi-transparency when moving/resizing windows, but now I'm also happy without these eye candies. The only thing that I'm still missing is the smooth scrolling of window content. This is indeed a bit better with compositing enabled. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7750 / R7
Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more
On 25/08/2015 04:28, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468?
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468
It's been annoying me for a week now with this message:
!!! existing preserved libs:
package: www-client/firefox-40.0.2
* - /usr/lib64/firefox/libmozalloc.so
* used by /usr/lib64/thunderbird/components/libdbusservice.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by /usr/lib64/thunderbird/components/libmozgnome.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/distribution/extensions/{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-
a41df1933103}/components/libcalbasecomps.so
(mail-client/thunderbird-38.2.0)
* used by 4 other files
Both Mozilla products ship this file:
$ locate libmozalloc
/usr/lib64/firefox/libmozalloc.so
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/libmozalloc.so
and according to preserved libs, thunderbird linked to the firefox copy.
The only offered solution on the bug is to use a MASK variable, which
seems to me an ugly hammer to swat a fly.
I was wondering if there's a better way been developed in the last year.
Actually, now I have a general idea of what's going on and that sounds like
an
acceptable solution but perhaps I could be better. This is what happens:
1. revdep-rebuild uses ldd to find breakage. It finds breakage in
libdbusservice.so because firefox uses tricks to preload the library from
it's
directory.
2. revdep-rebuild find that thunderbird provides the library and thinks it
needs to be rebuild. (And wrongly tells you that firefox links against it).
A better way would be:
1. same as step 1 above
2. revdep-rebuild checks the package that provides the broken binary (in this
case the firefox package), if this package also provides the missing library
then it's safe to ignore the problem.
3. same as step 2 above.
Another solution is to make patch firefox to use RPATH so ldd can find the
labraries, this would also make prelink work better with firefox but it's
probably not ideal to mantain.
that does make sense. In my case, it's not revdep-rebuild causing
problems, it's the preserved-rebuild message at the end of emerge -v
At this level is there a difference?
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Missing digest for *** Tree looks messed up.
On Monday 24 August 2015 10:44:19 Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 08/24/2015 09:47 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 24 August 2015 08:12:28 Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 08/24/2015 08:08 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Is syncing not yet sorted out? A fortnight later I'm still getting something like 24000 manifests synced every day, and about a week ago I got all the change-logs too. That was expected... one more time. Hopefully it shouldn't happen again. Which, the change-logs or the manifests? I can't help thinking that all those - billions? - of little files being transferred every day must be slugging the net somewhat. Both I think. I don't really know what was wrong, but some other people do, and they say it should be fixed. As Fernando noted, it is now. Two syncs today: the first copied 41,787 files, the second 344. https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/2c69bdebe4f7700bc939edd6780ca a6c https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/c1a370104718167b2e7a53dbe14e7 c17 -- Rgds Peter
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Either way, you should be back up and running come Thursday latest :-) Hey, this is Gentoo, here we like watching gcc outpt scroll by for hours/days at a time. Hehe ... It did take a while but partly because of some trouble vbox itself... but mainly due to seriously thinning content in the noggin. Up and running since earlier today and currently grinding away at the LXDE meta package. Good basic console system in place now.
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes: I'd suggest not doing stuff like this in the future. I got a bigger laugh out of this than anything I've seen for a while. Such a mild statement... covering seriously demented mistakes.
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes: Uh, not to drag you through the mud, but what gave you the idea to try that? I'm mainly interested so that we can go fix it if there is some document that is leading people astray. I seriously doubt there is any such document ... My troubles stemmed from the exact opposite... not consulting enough documents. And heavy handed tendency to just jump right in without much research. The only thing I can say on my own behalf is that there was once a time when it wasn't so far fetched to start emerge -vC 'ing stuff. Yrs ago gentoo was not yet so complex as it is today. Ditto for the other linux's I'm sure my way will smooth out immensely with just a little immersion back into gentoo as old memories are kicked into life (At least I hope so ...)
[gentoo-user] about online database of files per pkg
Not doing too well with google on this... Can anyong direct me to a database for gentoo where one can find out which tools/files go with which pkg.
Re: [gentoo-user] about online database of files per pkg
On 26/08/2015 00:13, Harry Putnam wrote: Not doing too well with google on this... Can anyong direct me to a database for gentoo where one can find out which tools/files go with which pkg. As far as I know, there's no such thing. On Ubuntu when you install firefox, you get an exact list of files that is the same for everyone. On Gentoo when you install firefox, the list of files you get depends on USE and whether the dev did any tweaks to the ebuild today. There's been some efforts at making such a database, for example http://www.portagefilelist.de but that doesn't seem to work anymore. Maybe another project has picked up the ball but I don't know of any. This is not such a big problem as it might appear. If you are familiar with the Gentoo base system it's usually obvious what package will give you the file. The exception is basic utilities like cut and head and tail. They are not tin their own package but in a big utility one, maybe it's coreutils maybe it's util-linux. I avoid the problem by always installing both :-) Fo9r the rare case where you really can't figure it out, you can always ask here for someone with the file to equery it and find where it came from. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 06:28:45PM -0500, Dale wrote: Alan Grimes wrote: The PSU is an Antec EarthWatts 750. Biggest hoggs outside the motherboard are the, um, er, well [nvidia 980 gpu] and an aging Western Digital Velociraptor boot drive. There is also a 3TB drive for all my p***, er kerbals ( Kerbal Space Program ) . It just means your P/S is running at half power most of the time. Which may be a good idea, since then it’d be running at optimum efficiency. Yep. I would not buy a P/S that didn't have at least 30 or 40% of headroom. If nothing else, as the P/S ages, it wouldn't be so stressed on those older components. Also, I would only do that if I know I won't ever add to that rig. I usually aim for half load or even a little less. I almost always end up adding something or upgrading something before I retire a system. On my current P/S, it is a 650 watt unit. According to my UPS, my entire computer system pulls about 150 watts idle and about 160 to 170 when compiling the crap out of something like GCC, Libreoffice etc. Now that includes my monitor, router, modem and speakers. If I were to guess, the puter itself only pulls around 100 to 120 watts. Getting OT here: Didn’t you say (waay back) that you run AMD? Because in that case those numbers don’t add up (they also don’t for a medium-range intel). 120 W @ idle (which in itself is a lot) and then only 30-ish more for full CPU load? I got those numbers from the UPS. Just for giggles, I disconnected my A/C, plugged the UPS into that plug and measured them with a clamp on meter at the breaker box. Doing the math, I got about the same numbers as the UPS gives me. The difference might run a night light, maybe. The most I have ever seen this system pull is about 200 watts. I think I was printing and doing some updates at the same time. I remember thinking about that being the biggest load I ever seen. Oh, my A/C is on a dedicated circuit. Nothing else is on that line. The plug the UPS usually plugs into only has my TV and some lights on it. From the UPS and confirmed by a clamp on meter just in the past few minutes. Idle: 146 watts Load, well into a gcc compile with all four cores running at close to 100% and drive activity: 186 watts Keep in mind, my A/C is off and it's warming up here. If I listen close, I can tell the fans are spinning a bit faster. Of course, it's hard to hear those huge fans. That HAF-932 is quiet but still moves a lot of air. My power supply has some overkill issues for sure. I could likely easily use a 300 watt unit but would likely replace with a 400 watt since they are more available. Technically, I could use a 200 watt if the power supply was a well built model. If only such models were actually available. The lowest value you can get in a reasonable-quality build is 300 W, which is far too much for silent, small home PCs for simple usess like office or media centre. Such mini systems barely reach 20 W. Even at full load they won’t get past 60 or 70 W. This is just at the start of the 80+ efficiency range wich begins at 20%. That was my point. Most P/Ss that are that size or smaller than that are either old or junky made. Basically, something I would not buy or recommend. Finding a quality P/S that is 350 or less would be difficult. I don't recall seeing any in a long while, not that I have actually tried to find one tho. Keep in mind, I didn't build this system to be green. When I first built this thing, I figured it would pull at least double what it actually does if not much more. My old rig pulled about 400 watts I think and it is nothing compared to the speed this rig has. While having more processing power, it sure doesn't use more energy. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 06:39:12PM +0200, Ralf wrote: On 08/25/2015 03:35 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Grab the .config files from both running systems and diff them. Expect the output to be long but with care you can narrow down the important differences. I also had that idea. The problem is, that Arch uses almost _everything_ as module. So it's hard to figure out the critical module... Hello, you can try lsmod to see which modules actually get loaded (possibly even before and after successful suspend - just in case there is a difference). On the other hand you could check the kernel versions of the working kernel and the new one and try to downgrade your kernel if necessary: my t510 doesn't wake up from suspend to ram (I never tried hiberation) since at least 4.1.3 (possibly 4.1.y) right now either - without any config changes. I had to time to bisect/investigate, but it worked fine with 4.0.y. WKR Hinnerk
Re: [gentoo-user] keeping grub 1
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:01:48 PM Florian Gamböck wrote: Hi James! Am 25.08.2015 um 20:44 schrieb James: If I just unmerge grub and emerge grub-static, is that the best way to prevent grub-2 from ever being installed? If you want to keep your good old sys-boot/grub:0, just put exactly that into your world file, including with the slot-version (the :0 at the end). At least in the main portage tree, grub-2 uses slot 2, whereas grub-1 stays in slot 0. Alternatively you could put something like =sys-boot/grub-2 or even sys-boot/grub:2 into package.mask. HTH, --Flo And since you can install both it may be a good idea to get legacy grub working before unmerging grub2. If something goes wrong you just need to chroot and run grub2-install (or whatever it's called). The grub-static package is most useful for amd64 systems without a 32-bit ncurses. I believe it ships a prebuilt ncurses static library. -- Fernando Rodriguez
Re: [gentoo-user] keeping grub 1
On 25/08/2015 20:44, James wrote: Hello, So on one particular (openrc) system, I have no interest in grub-2 or any other bootloaders. I see grub is both grub 1 and grub 2. If I just unmerge grub and emerge grub-static, is that the best way to prevent grub-2 from ever being installed? Other caveats to worry about? TIA, James Add to package.mask: sys-boot/grub:2 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 06:28:45PM -0500, Dale wrote: Alan Grimes wrote: The PSU is an Antec EarthWatts 750. Biggest hoggs outside the motherboard are the, um, er, well [nvidia 980 gpu] and an aging Western Digital Velociraptor boot drive. There is also a 3TB drive for all my p***, er kerbals ( Kerbal Space Program ) . It just means your P/S is running at half power most of the time. Which may be a good idea, since then it’d be running at optimum efficiency. On my current P/S, it is a 650 watt unit. According to my UPS, my entire computer system pulls about 150 watts idle and about 160 to 170 when compiling the crap out of something like GCC, Libreoffice etc. Now that includes my monitor, router, modem and speakers. If I were to guess, the puter itself only pulls around 100 to 120 watts. Getting OT here: Didn’t you say (waay back) that you run AMD? Because in that case those numbers don’t add up (they also don’t for a medium-range intel). 120 W @ idle (which in itself is a lot) and then only 30-ish more for full CPU load? My power supply has some overkill issues for sure. I could likely easily use a 300 watt unit but would likely replace with a 400 watt since they are more available. Technically, I could use a 200 watt if the power supply was a well built model. If only such models were actually available. The lowest value you can get in a reasonable-quality build is 300 W, which is far too much for silent, small home PCs for simple usess like office or media centre. Such mini systems barely reach 20 W. Even at full load they won’t get past 60 or 70 W. This is just at the start of the 80+ efficiency range wich begins at 20%. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. The problem with Perl jokes is that only the teller understands them.
[gentoo-user] Re: keeping grub 1
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: If I just unmerge grub and emerge grub-static, is that the best way to prevent grub-2 from ever being installed? Other caveats to worry about? OK, so before anyone responded, I just masked the relevant versions of grub2 in package.mask. =sys-boot/grub-2.02_beta2-r7 =sys-boot/grub-2.02_beta2-r3 =sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107-r2 emerge -n sys-boot/grub:0 and make sure no other grub entries appear in at world I added the generic grub2 to the package.mask sys-boot/grub:2 It's all good now. I'm ignoring grub-static. grub-0.97.r14 seems fine. thx (everyone), James
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 02:56:10PM +0200, Ralf wrote: Hi folks, i just got my brand new Lenovo X1 Carbon and trying to get Gentoo running on it. I have a big problem with my kernel: It doesn't come back from standby. After closing the lid, the standby LED starts breathing, opening the lid doesn't change anything, even pressing the power button does not wake up the system. The only option is to reset the system by holding down the power button. Journalctl doesn't say anything except of System reboot after the Standby message: ralf@omega:~$ sudo journalctl | grep -i lid closed -A 10 130 Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-logind[2075]: Lid closed. Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-logind[2075]: Suspending... Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd[1]: Reached target Sleep. Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd[1]: Starting Suspend... Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-sleep[2175]: Suspending system... -- Reboot -- .. So I tried installing Arch linux (same kernel version, 4.1.6). Arch wakes up without any problems. As a try and quick fixI copied the Arch Kernel+Modules to my Gentoo system and it works fine, which means to me that I probably have a misconfigured kernel. But that's not the Gentoo way, I'd like to compile the kernel on my own. Cool, at least it is supported. I know someone with that got a brand new Lenovo about a year ago and had loads of issues with it, even with the bleeding edge kernels in Arch. Does anyone know what I might be missing in my kernel config? Or does anyone also have a X1 Carbon 3rd generation and would like to share the .config with me? Do you have SUSPEND=y (just checking)? Other things that I can see related to suspend are SUSPEND_FREEZER, ACPI_SLEEP, APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND, and a bunch of Thinkpad/Lenovo related options. I do not have suspend enabled on my laptop, so take this with a grain of salt. If you want to search various kernel options, you can run `make menuconfig` in the source directory and use '/' (forward slash) to search just like you're in `less'. Alec
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: The only thing I can say on my own behalf is that there was once a time when it wasn't so far fetched to start emerge -vC 'ing stuff. Many thing's can be removed with `emerge -C` and recovered from, but I doubt unmerging packages in @system was ever a well supported operation...
Re: [gentoo-user] about online database of files per pkg
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 00:26:20 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Can anyong direct me to a database for gentoo where one can find out which tools/files go with which pkg. If you mean for installed packages; qlist shows what a package installed, qfile shows which package installed a file. Both are part of portage-utils. If you want the same for uninstalled packages, what Alan said... As far as I know, there's no such thing. On Ubuntu when you install firefox, you get an exact list of files that is the same for everyone. On Gentoo when you install firefox, the list of files you get depends on USE and whether the dev did any tweaks to the ebuild today. There's been some efforts at making such a database, for example http://www.portagefilelist.de but that doesn't seem to work anymore. Maybe another project has picked up the ball but I don't know of any. I use packages.debian.org. Once I know the Debian package name, it is usually trivial to find the equivalent ebuild. -- Neil Bothwick Do Roman paramedics refer to IV's as 4's? pgpqgTznR6dwf.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] about online database of files per pkg
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 26/08/2015 00:13, Harry Putnam wrote: Not doing too well with google on this... Can anyong direct me to a database for gentoo where one can find out which tools/files go with which pkg. As far as I know, there's no such thing. On Ubuntu when you install firefox, you get an exact list of files that is the same for everyone. On Gentoo when you install firefox, the list of files you get depends on USE and whether the dev did any tweaks to the ebuild today. There's been some efforts at making such a database, for example http://www.portagefilelist.de but that doesn't seem to work anymore. Maybe another project has picked up the ball but I don't know of any. This is not such a big problem as it might appear. If you are familiar with the Gentoo base system it's usually obvious what package will give you the file. The exception is basic utilities like cut and head and tail. They are not tin their own package but in a big utility one, maybe it's coreutils maybe it's util-linux. I avoid the problem by always installing both :-) Fo9r the rare case where you really can't figure it out, you can always ask here for someone with the file to equery it and find where it came from. I use that site, I also run the program that uploads that info, but I to find it not always helpful. For Gentoo, there is just to much that can change from one system to another based on settings/configs. I'm not aware of anyone else trying to do this. Sadly. On those occasions where someone asks what belongs to something, I always do a search here and if I have the info, I reply with it. It's likely about the easiest help a person can provide. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] keeping grub 1
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 18:44:17 + (UTC), James wrote: If I just unmerge grub and emerge grub-static, is that the best way to prevent grub-2 from ever being installed? Other caveats to worry about? emerge -n sys-boot/grub:0 and make sure no other grub entries appear in @world -- Neil Bothwick Bookmark - A means of returning to where you got lost last time. pgphsYTruSTPL.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Filthy oscilloscope picture! =P
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:19:50 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote: I had to use my windows 7 machine to get the photo off my camera because digikam does not compile. =| What's wrong with putting the camera in mass storage mode, or putting it's memory card into your computer? Compiling DigiKam to copy one file brings new meaning to overkill. -- Neil Bothwick Geordi, show these children the antimatter - Picard pgpiKgeejj1yl.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Filthy oscilloscope picture! =P
On 25/08/2015 23:33, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:19:50 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote: I had to use my windows 7 machine to get the photo off my camera because digikam does not compile. =| What's wrong with putting the camera in mass storage mode, or putting it's memory card into your computer? Compiling DigiKam to copy one file brings new meaning to overkill. I believe that honour goes to running wubi under wine on an Ubuntu guest VM in VBox/VMWare/KVM, running on an Ubuntu host. What do you get when you make it through that labyrinth? Why, it installs Ubuntu of course! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)
Hi folks, i just got my brand new Lenovo X1 Carbon and trying to get Gentoo running on it. Beside some really big issues (HiDPI display, 2048x1152 resolution on a 14 display really sucks on linux, xrandr scaling is horrible, no scaling is damn too small to read, missing touch support in most applications, ...) I have a big problem with my kernel: It doesn't come back from standby. After closing the lid, the standby LED starts breathing, opening the lid doesn't change anything, even pressing the power button does not wake up the system. The only option is to reset the system by holding down the power button. Journalctl doesn't say anything except of System reboot after the Standby message: ralf@omega:~$ sudo journalctl | grep -i lid closed -A 10 130 Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-logind[2075]: Lid closed. Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-logind[2075]: Suspending... Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd[1]: Reached target Sleep. Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd[1]: Starting Suspend... Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-sleep[2175]: Suspending system... -- Reboot -- .. So I tried installing Arch linux (same kernel version, 4.1.6). Arch wakes up without any problems. As a try and quick fixI copied the Arch Kernel+Modules to my Gentoo system and it works fine, which means to me that I probably have a misconfigured kernel. But that's not the Gentoo way, I'd like to compile the kernel on my own. Does anyone know what I might be missing in my kernel config? Or does anyone also have a X1 Carbon 3rd generation and would like to share the .config with me? Anything helps! Cheers Ralf
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)
On 25/08/2015 14:56, Ralf wrote: Hi folks, i just got my brand new Lenovo X1 Carbon and trying to get Gentoo running on it. Beside some really big issues (HiDPI display, 2048x1152 resolution on a 14 display really sucks on linux, xrandr scaling is horrible, no scaling is damn too small to read, missing touch support in most applications, ...) I have a big problem with my kernel: It doesn't come back from standby. After closing the lid, the standby LED starts breathing, opening the lid doesn't change anything, even pressing the power button does not wake up the system. The only option is to reset the system by holding down the power button. Journalctl doesn't say anything except of System reboot after the Standby message: ralf@omega:~$ sudo journalctl | grep -i lid closed -A 10 130 Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-logind[2075]: Lid closed. Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-logind[2075]: Suspending... Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd[1]: Reached target Sleep. Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd[1]: Starting Suspend... Aug 23 19:12:20 omega systemd-sleep[2175]: Suspending system... -- Reboot -- .. So I tried installing Arch linux (same kernel version, 4.1.6). Arch wakes up without any problems. As a try and quick fixI copied the Arch Kernel+Modules to my Gentoo system and it works fine, which means to me that I probably have a misconfigured kernel. But that's not the Gentoo way, I'd like to compile the kernel on my own. Does anyone know what I might be missing in my kernel config? Or does anyone also have a X1 Carbon 3rd generation and would like to share the .config with me? Grab the .config files from both running systems and diff them. Expect the output to be long but with care you can narrow down the important differences. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)
I have a T440s and would expect the two to be quite similar from an ACPI point of view, so let's see if I can help. On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Ralf wrote: It doesn't come back from standby. After closing the lid, the standby LED starts breathing, opening the lid doesn't change anything, even pressing the power button does not wake up the system. The only option is to reset the system by holding down the power button. This might be a long-shot but could you check cat /proc/acpi/wakeup The lid-wakeup action can be toggled there. I also have a SLPB device in that file, which could map to the power button in some cases? As a try and quick fixI copied the Arch Kernel+Modules to my Gentoo system and it works fine, which means to me that I probably have a misconfigured kernel. But that's not the Gentoo way, I'd like to compile the kernel on my own. You could try diffing your config with the arch kernel config. Should be present in /boot. Then look for suspicious differences, it's not as hard as it seems, I've done it with the fedora kernel to solve problems. Does anyone know what I might be missing in my kernel config? Try my config (attached), I don't know how it compares to the arch one but suspend/resume works correctly here. It may be easier to pinpoint the cause with it. You'll have to enable systemd.# # Automatically generated file; DO NOT EDIT. # Linux/x86 4.1.5-gentoo Kernel Configuration # # # Gentoo Linux # CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX=y CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_UDEV=y # # Support for init systems, system and service managers # CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_INIT_SCRIPT=y # CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_INIT_SYSTEMD is not set CONFIG_64BIT=y CONFIG_X86_64=y CONFIG_X86=y CONFIG_INSTRUCTION_DECODER=y CONFIG_PERF_EVENTS_INTEL_UNCORE=y CONFIG_OUTPUT_FORMAT=elf64-x86-64 CONFIG_ARCH_DEFCONFIG=arch/x86/configs/x86_64_defconfig CONFIG_LOCKDEP_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_HAVE_LATENCYTOP_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_MMU=y CONFIG_NEED_DMA_MAP_STATE=y CONFIG_NEED_SG_DMA_LENGTH=y CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y CONFIG_GENERIC_BUG=y CONFIG_GENERIC_BUG_RELATIVE_POINTERS=y CONFIG_GENERIC_HWEIGHT=y CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX=y CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CACHE_LINE_SIZE=y CONFIG_HAVE_SETUP_PER_CPU_AREA=y CONFIG_NEED_PER_CPU_EMBED_FIRST_CHUNK=y CONFIG_NEED_PER_CPU_PAGE_FIRST_CHUNK=y CONFIG_ARCH_HIBERNATION_POSSIBLE=y CONFIG_ARCH_SUSPEND_POSSIBLE=y CONFIG_ARCH_WANT_HUGE_PMD_SHARE=y CONFIG_ARCH_WANT_GENERAL_HUGETLB=y CONFIG_ZONE_DMA32=y CONFIG_AUDIT_ARCH=y CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_OPTIMIZED_INLINING=y CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC=y CONFIG_HAVE_INTEL_TXT=y CONFIG_X86_64_SMP=y CONFIG_X86_HT=y CONFIG_ARCH_HWEIGHT_CFLAGS=-fcall-saved-rdi -fcall-saved-rsi -fcall-saved-rdx -fcall-saved-rcx -fcall-saved-r8 -fcall-saved-r9 -fcall-saved-r10 -fcall-saved-r11 CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_UPROBES=y CONFIG_FIX_EARLYCON_MEM=y CONFIG_PGTABLE_LEVELS=4 CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST=/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config CONFIG_IRQ_WORK=y CONFIG_BUILDTIME_EXTABLE_SORT=y # # General setup # CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32 CONFIG_CROSS_COMPILE= # CONFIG_COMPILE_TEST is not set CONFIG_LOCALVERSION= # CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is not set CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_GZIP=y CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_BZIP2=y CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZMA=y CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_XZ=y CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZO=y CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZ4=y CONFIG_KERNEL_GZIP=y # CONFIG_KERNEL_BZIP2 is not set # CONFIG_KERNEL_LZMA is not set # CONFIG_KERNEL_XZ is not set # CONFIG_KERNEL_LZO is not set # CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4 is not set CONFIG_DEFAULT_HOSTNAME=(none) CONFIG_SWAP=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_CROSS_MEMORY_ATTACH=y # CONFIG_FHANDLE is not set CONFIG_USELIB=y CONFIG_AUDIT=y CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_AUDITSYSCALL=y CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=y CONFIG_AUDIT_WATCH=y CONFIG_AUDIT_TREE=y # # IRQ subsystem # CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_PROBE=y CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_SHOW=y CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_LEGACY_ALLOC_HWIRQ=y CONFIG_GENERIC_PENDING_IRQ=y CONFIG_IRQ_DOMAIN=y CONFIG_GENERIC_MSI_IRQ=y # CONFIG_IRQ_DOMAIN_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_IRQ_FORCED_THREADING=y CONFIG_SPARSE_IRQ=y CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_WATCHDOG=y CONFIG_ARCH_CLOCKSOURCE_DATA=y CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_VALIDATE_LAST_CYCLE=y CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BROADCAST=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_MIN_ADJUST=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CMOS_UPDATE=y # # Timers subsystem # CONFIG_TICK_ONESHOT=y CONFIG_NO_HZ_COMMON=y # CONFIG_HZ_PERIODIC is not set CONFIG_NO_HZ_IDLE=y # CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL is not set CONFIG_NO_HZ=y CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS=y # # CPU/Task time and stats accounting # CONFIG_TICK_CPU_ACCOUNTING=y # CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN is not set # CONFIG_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING is not set CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3 is not set CONFIG_TASKSTATS=y CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT=y CONFIG_TASK_XACCT=y CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING=y # # RCU Subsystem # CONFIG_TREE_RCU=y CONFIG_SRCU=y # CONFIG_TASKS_RCU is not set
[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using xfce4 with compositing turned off?
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:10:28 +0200 waben...@gmail.com wrote: Kernel driver in use: radeon gigabytes snipped for readability Hi wabe. This whole radeon thing is so confusing I thought I'd mention one more very confusing detail that I had to fix before I got the open- source ati/radeon driver to work correctly: First I tried starting my X session with no xorg.conf file at all. That didn't work but of course I can't remember now what went wrong. (That was already more than 24 hours ago :) Then I generated an xorg.conf in the old way using 'Xorg -configure'. That file didn't work right either. Then I finally realized that the generated xorg.conf had, in the Section Device section, this line: Driver radeon But that's not what we want. To use the open-source ati driver I changed that line to read: Driver ati And that's when everything finally started to work perfectly. One more thing that confused me: the xf86-video-ati package doesn't install any kernel modules. It installs only these two files: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so but to use those files you need that Driver ati line in xorg.conf. sigh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: keeping grub 1
James wrote: Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: If I just unmerge grub and emerge grub-static, is that the best way to prevent grub-2 from ever being installed? Other caveats to worry about? OK, so before anyone responded, I just masked the relevant versions of grub2 in package.mask. =sys-boot/grub-2.02_beta2-r7 =sys-boot/grub-2.02_beta2-r3 =sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107-r2 emerge -n sys-boot/grub:0 and make sure no other grub entries appear in at world I added the generic grub2 to the package.mask sys-boot/grub:2 It's all good now. I'm ignoring grub-static. grub-0.97.r14 seems fine. thx (everyone), James To be sure, I'd take the lowest version and put a = in front. Based on what I get here, it should look like this in the mask file: =sys-boot/grub-2.00_p5107-r2 That way you don't have to worry about the new version that may come later, and if the old grub gets removed from the tree. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
