[gentoo-user] Re: snafu: the update

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 01/26/2017 01:58 AM, Alan Grimes wrote:

Tom H wrote:

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Alan Grimes  wrote:

The linux kernel stalls stone cold dead in either direct from firmware
or pass through grub mode.

AFAIK, when you load the kernel directly from the EFI firmware, it has
to have the ".efi" suffix. But that doesn't explain why it would stall
when loaded from grub...

Somewhat OT: Regarding grub, your "/boot/" is messy. It might not be
making a difference for (efi)-grub2's functioning but you have grub1
files (*stage1_5), grub2 bios files (i386-pc/), as well as grub2 efi
files (x86_64-efi/).


Yeah, I've been using that directory for many many long years, I ended
up removing the grub directory completely and re-installing, it's much
cleaner now.


You have done it wrong, actually :-P

You are mounting the EFI partition as /boot. You should be mounting it 
as /boot/efi.


/boot can just be a subdirectory of the root partition, and thus use the 
ext4 filesystem, while /boot/efi should be the vfat EFI partition. So 
you should have /boot/efi/EFI.


Right now, your kernels, configs, etc, are on vfat. Which completely 
lacks a Unix permission scheme, or ACL.


Fortunately, this is easy to fix. Just umount /boot, change your fstab, 
mkdir /boot/efi, mount /boot/efi, and move everything from /boot/efi to 
/boot except /boot/efi/EFI.

Re: [gentoo-user] java replacement

[Dale]

taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> On 01/25/2017 05:03 AM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
>
>> The java 8u112 download that the latest oracle java pulls in requires an
>> invasive questionnaire to create an Oracle account to enable the
>> download.
>>
>> I was using iced-tea at one stage but found the android sdk didn’t work
>> well with it - is there a less objectionable java source than oracle
>> that has a compatible java?
>>
>> BillK
> "Why does radio-shack ask for your phone number why you buy batteries!"
>
> Always good to not put up with this crap, I like to feed them
> obviously fake information when I need something from a place that
> insists on doing this.
>
> I purchased some hardware (at a physical store with cash none the
> less) recently and the cashier asked for my information and was
> annoyingly insistent[1] so I gave them "John Smith at 123 1st Street"
> as she audibly sucked her teeth.
>
> The more people put up with this stuff the more bad things will happen
> - two police officers recently were murdered in france because a
> terrorist got their address off the internet and paid them a visit.
>
> [1]I presume they get a bonus for how many marketing
> emails/information they collect.
>
>

It's also good to have a email address that you rarely if ever check.  I
have one with the words spam, junk and such in it.  I like the looks I
get when I give it to them.  Generally, they not happy.   Thing is, if I
need to confirm something, I can login and confirm it.  It is a valid
email addy, I just rarely check it. 

It's odd just how much info they want just so we can be a customer. 
Some act like we owe them something. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] java replacement

[taii...@gmx.com]

On 01/25/2017 05:03 AM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:


The java 8u112 download that the latest oracle java pulls in requires an
invasive questionnaire to create an Oracle account to enable the download.

I was using iced-tea at one stage but found the android sdk didn’t work
well with it - is there a less objectionable java source than oracle
that has a compatible java?

BillK

"Why does radio-shack ask for your phone number why you buy batteries!"

Always good to not put up with this crap, I like to feed them obviously 
fake information when I need something from a place that insists on 
doing this.


I purchased some hardware (at a physical store with cash none the less) 
recently and the cashier asked for my information and was annoyingly 
insistent[1] so I gave them "John Smith at 123 1st Street" as she 
audibly sucked her teeth.


The more people put up with this stuff the more bad things will happen - 
two police officers recently were murdered in france because a terrorist 
got their address off the internet and paid them a visit.


[1]I presume they get a bonus for how many marketing emails/information 
they collect.

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying USB->USB: sync after every file

[Michael Mol]

On Monday, January 23, 2017 5:53:35 PM EST Jeremi Piotrowski wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 04:50:33PM +0100, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > Can you give me a nudge? My sysctl.conf has only one active line besides
> > some netfilter stuff:
> > vm.swappiness = 1
> > (This is an SSD, I don’t even have swap on this machine unless I know I
> > definitely need it temporarily)
> 
> I'd say the relevant sysctl's are /proc/sys/vm/dirty* and
> /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode, along with the filesystems and mount options you
> are using for the USB drives. Please post these values. Also, could you
> get the output of /proc/meminfo while this is happening?

Yup.

You need to set vm.dirty_bytes and vm.dirty_background_bytes to something 
sane, like 10M and 1M, respectively. They default to something like 20% of 
system memory, and 10% of system memory, respectively...


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Re: [gentoo-user] snafu: the update

[Alan Grimes]

Tom H wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Alan Grimes  wrote:
>> The linux kernel stalls stone cold dead in either direct from firmware
>> or pass through grub mode.
> AFAIK, when you load the kernel directly from the EFI firmware, it has
> to have the ".efi" suffix. But that doesn't explain why it would stall
> when loaded from grub...
>
> Somewhat OT: Regarding grub, your "/boot/" is messy. It might not be
> making a difference for (efi)-grub2's functioning but you have grub1
> files (*stage1_5), grub2 bios files (i386-pc/), as well as grub2 efi
> files (x86_64-efi/).

Yeah, I've been using that directory for many many long years, I ended
up removing the grub directory completely and re-installing, it's much
cleaner now.

I think there's something with how I'm compiling the kernel and the EFI
boot requirements aren't quite being met and the loader is trying to
execute non-code or some other error of that general nature. But that's
just a brainstorm, I really hate it when my machine gives me this kind
of problem where I don't even have an error message.

 FROM GRUB.CFG #

echo'Loading Linux 4.6.7
...'    it successfully executes
this line.
linux   /vmlinuz-4.6.7 root=/dev/sda2 ro
check_enable_amd_mmconf amd_iommu=fullflush iommu=soft

 but fails before the first output from the kernel.


Hmm, I just realized that I had been assuming my machine had a proper 64
bit loader, maybe it's 32 bit for some stupid reason, enabling kernel
flag and doing another test (after dinner and some youtube vids...)

-- 
Strange Game.
The only winning move is not to play. 

Powers are not rights.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2 fails to build

[Mick]

On Wednesday 25 Jan 2017 19:53:53 Jens Pelzetter wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> sorry, my misttake.
> 
> the error message is:
> 
> usr/klibc/sigsuspend.c:8:31: fatal error: klibc/havesyscall.h: No such
> file or directory
> #include 
> 
> The output and the complete build log are attached.
> 
> Any ideas how to solve this? Or is it a bug and I should fill a ticket
> at bugs.gentoo.org?
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Jens

I assume the problem is with your linux header files, because of the warnings 
the elog has spewed out.  Portage should have installed the correct linux 
headers.  Try emerging the latest stable linux-headers and then see if the 
problem is gone:

emerge -uaNDv sys-kernel/linux-headers

-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] snafu: the update

[Tom H]

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Alan Grimes  wrote:
>
> The linux kernel stalls stone cold dead in either direct from firmware
> or pass through grub mode.

AFAIK, when you load the kernel directly from the EFI firmware, it has
to have the ".efi" suffix. But that doesn't explain why it would stall
when loaded from grub...

Somewhat OT: Regarding grub, your "/boot/" is messy. It might not be
making a difference for (efi)-grub2's functioning but you have grub1
files (*stage1_5), grub2 bios files (i386-pc/), as well as grub2 efi
files (x86_64-efi/).

[gentoo-user] Re: SNAFU!!!! Boot drive modernization.

[Nikos Chantziaras]

I had the same issue. I fixed it by disabling GRUB's automatic UUID 
kernel parameter and using my own.


/etc/default/grub:

GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="root=/dev/sda5 rootfstype=ext4"

Regenerate the grub config after editing it (grub-mkconfig).


On 01/25/2017 04:38 PM, Alan Grimes wrote:

After 7 long years, the peace of mind feature on my Velociraptor HD had
finally given up the ghost.

So I get a new SSD, that's slightly smaller but still a large multiple
of what I actually need the drive for. =P

To be fully trendy (and finally wanting to put the 1980's to bed) I try
to set up UEFI on gpt partitions, so the new boot partition, which is
also excessively large, now has a EFI directory.



localhost new_uefi # tree -L 2
.
├── config-4.6.7
├── EFI
│   ├── BOOT
│   └── gentoo
├── grub
│   ├── default
│   ├── device.map
│   ├── e2fs_stage1_5
│   ├── fat_stage1_5
│   ├── ffs_stage1_5
│   ├── fonts
│   ├── grub.cfg
│   ├── grubenv
│   ├── i386-pc
│   ├── iso9660_stage1_5
│   ├── jfs_stage1_5
│   ├── locale
│   ├── minix_stage1_5
│   ├── reiserfs_stage1_5
│   ├── splash.xpm.gz
│   ├── stage1
│   ├── stage2
│   ├──
stage2_eltorito

│   ├──
themes

│   ├──
ufs2_stage1_5

│   ├──
vstafs_stage1_5

│   ├──
x86_64-efi

│   └──
xfs_stage1_5

├──
memtest86plus

│   ├──
memtest

│   └──
memtest.netbsd

├──
System.map-4.6.7

└──
vmlinuz-4.6.7



10 directories, 23
files

localhost new_uefi #


Okay,

I copy GRUB into BOOT and test it, I unplugged the 'raptor to make it a
good test. It got to the point of kernel loading where it stalled
presumably because the kernel couldn't find root. But I had TESTED GRUB
AND IT WORKED!!!11



Okay...

I then use a parted CD and tried to rsync my data across, got bitten by
the goddamned trailing / missfeature, ended up using mv and fixed the
directory entries instead of putting another 50gb of wear on my new drive.


Side note: these boot CDs disable my mouse because it's using a USB port
that's mapped to the same IO address space as another USB port and, due
to my CPU/MOBO combination, I need about a dozen kernel parameters to
unhose using IOMMU.


So I've tested grub, it got to the kernel,

Now I have a root filesystem so the kernel should work.

Now to juggle the cables

Grub now dies before accomplishing anything whatsoever complaining that
it can't find a specific uuid.

I have one thing to say about UUID's at this point:

BURN
-- IN --
HELL.

Before I had been indifferent because I could ignore them completely
with no ill effects,

Now it's failing in a way that I don't even know what's going on. jeez!

So what I did was pray to almighty GooG and was provided with a grub
boot repair disk.. Which wouldn't work because it refused to touch a
UEFI system from a legacy-booted CD... So I reformatted my only CF disk
(which was reserved for BIOS images) and got it to do the work. The
keyboard input barely worked because there was almost no visible
feedback of the cursor position when the gui was operated by keyboard...
Anyway, I set the settings the way I wanted and it stopped dead at "plz
wait a few minutes while botching up your kernels "... I came back the
next morning and it was still frozen so I juggled the cables back and am
therefore able to write this e-mail. =\

[gentoo-user] Re: dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2 fails to build

[Jens Pelzetter]

Hello all,

sorry, my misttake.

the error message is:

usr/klibc/sigsuspend.c:8:31: fatal error: klibc/havesyscall.h: No such
file or directory
#include 

The output and the complete build log are attached.

Any ideas how to solve this? Or is it a bug and I should fill a ticket
at bugs.gentoo.org?

Best regards

Jens

Am 25.01.2017 um 19:51 schrieb Jens Pelzetter:
> Hello all,
> 
> on both of Gentoo systems dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2 fails with the same
> error message:
> 

 * Package:dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2
 * Repository: gentoo
 * USE:abi_x86_64 amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux 
userland_GNU
 * FEATURES:   distcc preserve-libs sandbox userpriv 
usersandbox
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking linux-4.4.tar.xz to /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2/work
>>> Unpacking klibc-2.0.4.tar.xz to 
>>> /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2/work
>>> Unpacking klibc_2.0.4-9.debian.tar.xz to 
>>> /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2/work
>>> Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2/work
>>> Preparing source in 
>>> /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2/work/klibc-2.0.4 ...
 * Applying klibc-1.4.11-interp-flags.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying klibc-1.5.7-strip-fix-dash-s.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying klibc-2.0.2-mkfifo.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying klibc-2.0.3-kernel-uapi.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying klibc-linux-libc-dev ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying multiarch-include-path ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying Fix-minimal-mv-to-work-across-fs ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying ppc64el-load-toc-syscall-stub.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying implement-realpath.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying readlink-add-f-option.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying mount-implement-o-defaults.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying mips-update-archfcntl-h.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying 0001-add-mips64-support-headers.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying 0002-add-mips64-support-arch-mips32.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying 0003-add-mips64-support-arch-mips64-specific.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying install-headers-with-consistent-mode.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying dash-mkbuiltins-fix-sort-order-harder.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying 
klibc-add-pread-and-pwrite-32bit-syscall-wrappers-for-parisc.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying klibc-ppc64-fix-struct-stat.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying gzip-fix-silent-fallback-to-decompression.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying 
klibc-mips-setjmp-s-don-t-save-and-restore-floating-point.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying 
syscalls-override-detection-of-direct-socket-syscalls-on-i386-m68k-s390.patch 
...
 [ ok ]
 * Applying run-init-add-dry-run-mode.patch ...
 [ ok ]
>>> Source prepared.
>>> Configuring source in 
>>> /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2/work/klibc-2.0.4 ...
>>> Source configured.
>>> Compiling source in 
>>> /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2/work/klibc-2.0.4 ...
make -j11 -l3 defconfig CC=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc 
HOSTCC=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc ARCH=x86 
  HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/conf.o
  SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.c
  SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.lex.c
  SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.hash.c
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.o
  HOSTLD  scripts/kconfig/conf
*** Default configuration is based on 'x86_64_defconfig'
#
# configuration written to .config
#
make -j11 -l3 prepare CC=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc HOSTCC=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc 
ARCH=x86 
scripts/kconfig/conf  --silentoldconfig Kconfig
  SYSTBL  arch/x86/entry/syscalls/../../include/generated/asm/syscalls_32.h
  SYSHDR  arch/x86/entry/syscalls/../../include/generated/asm/unistd_32_ia32.h
  SYSHDR  arch/x86/entry/syscalls/../../include/generated/asm/unistd_64_x32.h
  SYSTBL  arch/x86/entry/syscalls/../../include/generated/asm/syscalls_64.h
  SYSHDR  arch/x86/entry/syscalls/../../include/generated/uapi/asm/unistd_32.h
  SYSHDR  

[gentoo-user] dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2 fails to build

[Jens Pelzetter]

Hello all,

on both of Gentoo systems dev-libs/klibc-2.0.4-r2 fails with the same
error message:

[gentoo-user] snafu: the update

[Alan Grimes]

I re-installed grub and now it boots through the grub menu to the point
of handing off to the linux kernel. The linux kernel stalls stone cold
dead in either direct from firmware or pass through grub mode.

So I think Grub is 97.6% exonerated at this point.

This is my standard kernel.org pure vanilla 4.6.7 kernel, the obvious
EFI config variables have been set... No idea, will be trolling the
##linux channel for the next few hours...

-- 
Strange Game.
The only winning move is not to play. 

Powers are not rights.

Re: [gentoo-user] Which is the Gentoo default? Openssl or Libressl?

[Dale]

It's installed here and I didn't have to patch anything at all.  My
reply was to inform the OP as to what is likely the default install
which was the question.  I'm not sure why you think I need a patch. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  He started the top posting.  :/


Luigi 'Comio' Mantellini wrote:
> You have to patch boost library in order to use libressl
> (https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/attachment/ticket/12575/boost-1.62-asio-libressl.patch)
> and some kde network.
>
> Small patches, of course, but You need to do.
>
> ciao
>
> luigi
>
> Il giorno mar 24 gen 2017 alle ore 19:20 Dale  > ha scritto:
>
> Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Title says it all. I think I've managed to screw things up,
> a USE
> > flag here, a USE flag there - what's a USE flag between fiends
> sort of
> > thing. I want to sort things out and I know at one time or another I
> > think I've dabbled in both openssl and libressl and now have
> some sort
> > of mixed up hybrid. What is the current Gentoo default so I can work
> > on getting back to "normal".
> >
> > Thoughts greatly appreciated,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
>
>
> I don't recall ever messing with this and I have openssl installed
> here.  I suspect that if you did a fresh install and didn't specify
> something else, that's what you would get.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
> -- 
> Luigi Mantellini
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Which is the Gentoo default? Openssl or Libressl?

[Luigi 'Comio' Mantellini]

You have to patch boost library in order to use libressl (
https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/attachment/ticket/12575/boost-1.62-asio-libressl.patch)
and some kde network.

Small patches, of course, but You need to do.

ciao

luigi

Il giorno mar 24 gen 2017 alle ore 19:20 Dale  ha
scritto:

> Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Title says it all. I think I've managed to screw things up, a USE
> > flag here, a USE flag there - what's a USE flag between fiends sort of
> > thing. I want to sort things out and I know at one time or another I
> > think I've dabbled in both openssl and libressl and now have some sort
> > of mixed up hybrid. What is the current Gentoo default so I can work
> > on getting back to "normal".
> >
> > Thoughts greatly appreciated,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
>
>
> I don't recall ever messing with this and I have openssl installed
> here.  I suspect that if you did a fresh install and didn't specify
> something else, that's what you would get.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
> --
Luigi Mantellini

[gentoo-user] SNAFU!!!! Boot drive modernization.

[Alan Grimes]

After 7 long years, the peace of mind feature on my Velociraptor HD had
finally given up the ghost.

So I get a new SSD, that's slightly smaller but still a large multiple
of what I actually need the drive for. =P

To be fully trendy (and finally wanting to put the 1980's to bed) I try
to set up UEFI on gpt partitions, so the new boot partition, which is
also excessively large, now has a EFI directory.



localhost new_uefi # tree -L 2
.
├── config-4.6.7
├── EFI
│   ├── BOOT
│   └── gentoo
├── grub
│   ├── default
│   ├── device.map
│   ├── e2fs_stage1_5
│   ├── fat_stage1_5
│   ├── ffs_stage1_5
│   ├── fonts
│   ├── grub.cfg
│   ├── grubenv
│   ├── i386-pc
│   ├── iso9660_stage1_5
│   ├── jfs_stage1_5
│   ├── locale
│   ├── minix_stage1_5
│   ├── reiserfs_stage1_5
│   ├── splash.xpm.gz
│   ├── stage1
│   ├── stage2
│   ├──
stage2_eltorito 


   

│   ├──
themes  


   

│   ├──
ufs2_stage1_5   


   

│   ├──
vstafs_stage1_5 


   

│   ├──
x86_64-efi  


   

│   └──
xfs_stage1_5


   

├──
memtest86plus   


   

│   ├──
memtest 


   

│   └──
memtest.netbsd  


   

├──
System.map-4.6.7


   

└──
vmlinuz-4.6.7   


   




   

10 directories, 23
files   




localhost new_uefi #


Okay,

I copy GRUB into BOOT and test it, I unplugged the 'raptor to make it a
good test. It got to the point of kernel loading where it stalled
presumably because the kernel couldn't find root. But I had TESTED GRUB
AND IT WORKED!!!11



Okay...

I then use a parted CD and tried to rsync my data across, got bitten by
the goddamned trailing / missfeature, ended up using mv and fixed the
directory entries instead of putting another 50gb of wear on my 

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync server setting - howto

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 01/25/2017 12:37:46 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:09:07 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

> I'd like to change my previous rsync server, I've commented out the
> sync-uri= line in gentoo.conf and
> uncommented a different line.
>
> But emaint sync or emerge --sync still access the previous rsync  
mirror.


Do you also have it set in make.conf?


No.
But meanwhile I noticed that after "some time" portage switched to the  
new setting.

Perhaps there is some sort of cache somewhere.

Thanks,
Helmut

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to do GRUB2 multiple partions on USB key?

[Tom H]

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Walter Dnes  wrote:
>
> I notice some comments that menu.lst is "legacy GRUB", and GRUB2 has
> gone off the deep end with a ton of config files.

Unless you want to customize your grub menu in a way not desired or
anticipated by the grub2 developers, you just have to edit
"/etc/default/grub" and run "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg".

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to do GRUB2 multiple partions on USB key?

[Tom H]

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Neil Bothwick  wrote:
>
> GRUB2 counts partitions from 1, but drives from 0 (a brilliant
> decision) so these would be (hd1,6) and (hd1,7).

They should've changed hd0/hd1/... to hda/hdb/... when they changed
(hd0,msdos1) to correspond to /dev/sda1 [as opposed to (hd0,0) in
grub1!], (hd1,gpt2) to correspond to /dev/sdb2, ... :(

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync server setting - howto

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:09:07 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

> I'd like to change my previous rsync server, I've commented out the  
> sync-uri= line in gentoo.conf and
> uncommented a different line.
> 
> But emaint sync or emerge --sync still access the previous rsync mirror.

Do you also have it set in make.conf?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A consultant is a person who borrows your watch, tells you what time it
is, pockets the watch, and sends you a bill for it.


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[gentoo-user] rsync server setting - howto

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,
according to Gentoo's documentation it is  
/etc/portage/repos.conf/gentoo.conf where one can set the resync server.


But that does seem to work for me.

I'd like to change my previous rsync server, I've commented out the  
sync-uri= line in gentoo.conf and

uncommented a different line.

But emaint sync or emerge --sync still access the previous rsync mirror.

What am I missing?

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut

Re: [gentoo-user] java replacement

[Bill Kenworthy]

On 25/01/17 18:21, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 25/01/2017 12:03, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
>> The java 8u112 download that the latest oracle java pulls in requires an
>> invasive questionnaire to create an Oracle account to enable the download.
>>
>> I was using iced-tea at one stage but found the android sdk didn’t work
>> well with it - is there a less objectionable java source than oracle
>> that has a compatible java?
>>
>> BillK
>>
> 
> 
> Sounds like Oracle's latest "commercial usage" clause, whatever that is
> 
> Follow Neil's advice, it also worked for me
> 

You are right - there are two elog links, one takes you to a page with
just a licence accept, the other to an archive where you get trapped.

Sorry for the noise.

BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] java replacement

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:27:26 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote:

> > I downloaded jdk-8u121-linux-x64.tar.gz a few days ago, using the URL
> > in the elog message. I had to agree to a licence agreement, but no
> > other information was requested.
> > 
> >   
> 
> Now accepting the licence agreement mousetraps you (cant go back) to an
> oracle login/account creation.  "Downloading these releases requires an
> oracle.com account. If you don't have an oracle.com account you can use
> the links on the top of this page to learn more about it and register
> for one for free." is at the top of the page the elog message links to.

Not here it doesn't. I just moved the tarball out of $DISTDIR and tried
again. I accepted the agreement and was able to download. The page I used
is
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Software: (n.) That which hardware manufacturers can blame for physical
failures.


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Re: [gentoo-user] java replacement

[Bill Kenworthy]

On 25/01/17 18:15, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:03:19 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> 
>> The java 8u112 download that the latest oracle java pulls in requires an
>> invasive questionnaire to create an Oracle account to enable the
>> download.
> 
> I downloaded jdk-8u121-linux-x64.tar.gz a few days ago, using the URL in
> the elog message. I had to agree to a licence agreement, but no other
> information was requested.
> 
> 

Now accepting the licence agreement mousetraps you (cant go back) to an
oracle login/account creation.  "Downloading these releases requires an
oracle.com account. If you don't have an oracle.com account you can use
the links on the top of this page to learn more about it and register
for one for free." is at the top of the page the elog message links to.

Looks like a trap to get a commercial contact for whatever company you
work for. Mentions "Only developers and Enterprise administrators should
download these releases." Recent change?


BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] java replacement

[Alan McKinnon]

On 25/01/2017 12:03, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> The java 8u112 download that the latest oracle java pulls in requires an
> invasive questionnaire to create an Oracle account to enable the download.
> 
> I was using iced-tea at one stage but found the android sdk didn’t work
> well with it - is there a less objectionable java source than oracle
> that has a compatible java?
> 
> BillK
> 


Sounds like Oracle's latest "commercial usage" clause, whatever that is

Follow Neil's advice, it also worked for me

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] java replacement

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:03:19 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote:

> The java 8u112 download that the latest oracle java pulls in requires an
> invasive questionnaire to create an Oracle account to enable the
> download.

I downloaded jdk-8u121-linux-x64.tar.gz a few days ago, using the URL in
the elog message. I had to agree to a licence agreement, but no other
information was requested.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

... if (pot.coffee == EMPTY) { programmer->brain = OFF };


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[gentoo-user] java replacement

[Bill Kenworthy]

The java 8u112 download that the latest oracle java pulls in requires an
invasive questionnaire to create an Oracle account to enable the download.

I was using iced-tea at one stage but found the android sdk didn’t work
well with it - is there a less objectionable java source than oracle
that has a compatible java?

BillK