Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread J. Roeleveld
It is possible. I have it set up like that on my laptop. Apart from a small /boot partition. The whole drive is encrypted. Decryption keys are stored encrypted in the initramfs, which is embedded in the kernel. -- Joost On May 25, 2017 12:40:12 AM GMT+02:00, Rich Freeman wrote: >On Wed, May 24,

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Martin Vaeth
Andrew Savchenko wrote: > For similar needs I found zswap the most suitable, it's so much > better than zram: This sounds like one is an alternative to the other. This is not the case. It can even make sense to use them together. For instance, the swap device necessarily required for zswap can be

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Wed, 24 May 2017 12:30:36 -0700 schrieb Rich Freeman : > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ian Zimmerman > wrote: > > On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > > > >> Unix semantics suggest that /tmp is not expected to survive reboots > >> anyways (in contrast, /var/tmp is expected to survive

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Wed, 24 May 2017 11:34:20 -0700 schrieb Ian Zimmerman : > On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > > > While I have no benchmarks and use the systemd default of tmpfs for > > /tmp, I also put /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs, automounted through > > systemd so it is cleaned up when no longer used (by

Re: [gentoo-user] ...doubled updates?

2017-05-24 Thread Dale
tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > this morning I got this updates to be done: > Emerging (8 of 10) sys-apps/collectl-4.1.3::gentoo Emerging (9 of 10) dev-libs/nss-3.30.2-r1::gentoo Installing (8 of 10) sys-apps/collectl-4.1.3::gentoo Installing (9 of 10) dev-libs/nss-3.30.2-r1::g

Re: [gentoo-user] ...doubled updates?

2017-05-24 Thread Sam Jorna (wraeth)
On 25/05/17 12:36, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Emerging (8 of 10) sys-apps/collectl-4.1.3::gentoo > Emerging (9 of 10) dev-libs/nss-3.30.2-r1::gentoo > Installing (8 of 10) sys-apps/collectl-4.1.3::gentoo > Installing (9 of 10) dev-libs/nss-3.30.2-r1::gentoo Looks like one is Emerging, the other is I

[gentoo-user] ...doubled updates?

2017-05-24 Thread tuxic
Hi, this morning I got this updates to be done: >>> Verifying ebuild manifests >>> Emerging (1 of 10) sys-apps/keyutils-1.5.10::gentoo >>> Emerging (2 of 10) sys-apps/diffutils-3.6::gentoo >>> Emerging (3 of 10) kde-frameworks/kcoreaddons-5.34.0-r1::gentoo >>> Emerging (4 of 10) app-text/poppler-

[gentoo-user] Re: Which update broke VMWare?

2017-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 05/25/2017 02:51 AM, Adam Carter wrote: I just confirmed i need both +bundled-libs and unset VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_LIBS to get it to work. Thanks! That works indeed. You just saved half my bacon :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] General ODF error

2017-05-24 Thread Dale
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > I only get this error when try to open the file with Gnumeric. > LibraOffice is reading the file/spreadsheet OK, though slow. > > When I hit OK I can Gnumeric can read the file OK. > I went through the spreadsheet (deleted some) but still getting same > error with

Re: [gentoo-user] Which update broke VMWare?

2017-05-24 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 24 May 2017 18:39:28 -0400, Adam Carter wrote: > > [1 ] > [2 ] > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:52 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > VMWare Workstation stopped working on ~amd64. And I don't know which of the > updated packages broke it. Before I start reverting all emerges I made in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Which update broke VMWare?

2017-05-24 Thread Adam Carter
I just confirmed i need both +bundled-libs and unset VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_LIBS to get it to work.

Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom-sta for my wireless card

2017-05-24 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, May 24 2017, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:38:29 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> You can use `eselect kernel set` to change this symlink. In my case, >> using `eselect kernel set 2` will change it to 4.9.16. In your case, >> list the installed kernels and set it to the new k

Re: [gentoo-user] Which update broke VMWare?

2017-05-24 Thread Adam Carter
> > There's two hacks i use to make workstation run on ~amd64; > cp /lib64/libz.so.1 to /opt/vmware/lib/vmware/lib/libz.so.1/ > > And > unset VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_LIBS && vmware & > > I am under the impression that i needed +bundled-libs with the unset > VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_LIBS.but that seems counter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > Apparently it is pointless to encrypt swap if unencrypted > hibernation image is used, because all memory is accessible through > that image (and even if it is deleted later, it can be restored > from hdd and in some cases from ssd). >

Re: [gentoo-user] Which update broke VMWare?

2017-05-24 Thread Adam Carter
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:52 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > VMWare Workstation stopped working on ~amd64. And I don't know which of > the updated packages broke it. Before I start reverting all emerges I made > in the last 20 days or so (it's a BIG list according to qlop), has someone > already f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:30:36 -0700 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > > > >> Unix semantics suggest that /tmp is not expected to survive reboots > >> anyways (in contrast, /var/tmp is expected to survive reboots

Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom-sta for my wireless card

2017-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:38:29 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > You can use `eselect kernel set` to change this symlink. In my case, > using `eselect kernel set 2` will change it to 4.9.16. In your case, > list the installed kernels and set it to the new kernel and `emerge -a > @module-rebuild` and you'l

Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom-sta for my wireless card

2017-05-24 Thread Daniel Frey
On 05/24/2017 11:46 AM, allan gottlieb wrote: > On Wed, May 24 2017, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> On 05/24/2017 11:10 AM, allan gottlieb wrote: >>> My older laptop needs broadcom-sta. Back when I bought and setup the >>> laptop (kernel 3.18.12), I emerged broadcom-sta and wireless worked. >>> >>> Now

Re: [gentoo-user] General ODF error

2017-05-24 Thread R0b0t1
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:50 PM, wrote: > > On 05/21/2017 05:07 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 4:37 PM, wrote: >>> I've a spreadsheet file (ODS) with several sheets in it but when I try >>> to open it, it take long time to load >>> >>> When I try to open it with Gnumeric I get a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > >> Unix semantics suggest that /tmp is not expected to survive reboots >> anyways (in contrast, /var/tmp is expected to survive reboots), so >> tmpfs is a logical consequence to use for /tmp. > > /tmp

Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom-sta for my wireless card

2017-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/05/2017 20:46, allan gottlieb wrote: > On Wed, May 24 2017, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> On 05/24/2017 11:10 AM, allan gottlieb wrote: >>> My older laptop needs broadcom-sta. Back when I bought and setup the >>> laptop (kernel 3.18.12), I emerged broadcom-sta and wireless worked. >>> >>> Now I a

[gentoo-user] Which update broke VMWare?

2017-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
VMWare Workstation stopped working on ~amd64. And I don't know which of the updated packages broke it. Before I start reverting all emerges I made in the last 20 days or so (it's a BIG list according to qlop), has someone already figured out what broke it? When I say "stopped working", I mean

Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom-sta for my wireless card

2017-05-24 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, May 24 2017, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 05/24/2017 11:10 AM, allan gottlieb wrote: >> My older laptop needs broadcom-sta. Back when I bought and setup the >> laptop (kernel 3.18.12), I emerged broadcom-sta and wireless worked. >> >> Now I am upgrading to kernel 4.9.16. The kernel boots but

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 05/24/2017 08:16 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: So what are gentoo users' opinions on this matter of faith? I have long been in the camp that thinks tmpfs for /tmp has no advantages (and may have disadvantages) over a normal filesystem like ext3, because the files there are normally so small that t

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-05-24 08:00, Kai Krakow wrote: > While I have no benchmarks and use the systemd default of tmpfs for > /tmp, I also put /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs, automounted through > systemd so it is cleaned up when no longer used (by unmounting). > > What can I say? It works so much faster: Building p

Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom-sta for my wireless card

2017-05-24 Thread Daniel Frey
On 05/24/2017 11:10 AM, allan gottlieb wrote: > My older laptop needs broadcom-sta. Back when I bought and setup the > laptop (kernel 3.18.12), I emerged broadcom-sta and wireless worked. > > Now I am upgrading to kernel 4.9.16. The kernel boots but no wireless. > In /lib/modules/3.18.12-gentoo-

[gentoo-user] broadcom-sta for my wireless card

2017-05-24 Thread allan gottlieb
My older laptop needs broadcom-sta. Back when I bought and setup the laptop (kernel 3.18.12), I emerged broadcom-sta and wireless worked. Now I am upgrading to kernel 4.9.16. The kernel boots but no wireless. In /lib/modules/3.18.12-gentoo-3 I have net/wireless/wl.ko. In /lib/modules/4.9.16-gent

Re: [gentoo-user] General ODF error

2017-05-24 Thread thelma
On 05/21/2017 05:07 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 4:37 PM, wrote: >> I've a spreadsheet file (ODS) with several sheets in it but when I try >> to open it, it take long time to load >> >> When I try to open it with Gnumeric I get a warning: >> >> General ODF error >> Unable to parse

[gentoo-user] Re: tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Wed, 24 May 2017 08:00:33 +0200 schrieb Kai Krakow : > Am Wed, 24 May 2017 07:34:34 +0200 > schrieb gentoo-u...@c-14.de: > > > On 17-05-23 at 22:16, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > So what are gentoo users' opinions on this matter of faith? > > I use an ext4 partition backed by zram. Gives me

Re: [gentoo-user] tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread R0b0t1
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > So what are gentoo users' opinions on this matter of faith? > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:34 AM, wrote: > Either way, it'd be nice if someone actually benchmarked this. > I don't have exhaustive benchmarks but moving PORTAGE_TMPDIR to a t

Re: [gentoo-user] etiquette on bgo

2017-05-24 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, May 24 2017, allan gottlieb wrote: > I am an emacs user patiently awaiting the stabilization of version 25.1 > on x86. I understand that I can install the testing version. > > On 10 feb Ulrich Müller (gentoo-dev) wrote in bug 608192 (a > stabilization bug) >Arch teams, please proceed

[gentoo-user] etiquette on bgo

2017-05-24 Thread allan gottlieb
I am an emacs user patiently awaiting the stabilization of version 25.1 on x86. I understand that I can install the testing version. On 10 feb Ulrich Müller (gentoo-dev) wrote in bug 608192 (a stabilization bug) Arch teams, please proceed On 23 feb arm ppc ppc64 went stable On Since then

Re: [gentoo-user] tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Wed, 24 May 2017 05:34:09 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > > I have long been in the camp that thinks tmpfs for /tmp has no > > advantages (and may have disadvantages) over a normal filesystem like > > ext3, because the files there are

Re: [gentoo-user] tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:43 AM, wrote: > On 17-05-24 at 05:34, Rich Freeman wrote: > [..] >> Others have mentioned zram. I've used it, but unless something has >> changed one of its limitations is that it can't give up memory. That >> is less of an issue if you're using swap since it can be sw

Re: [gentoo-user] tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread gentoo-user
On 17-05-24 at 05:34, Rich Freeman wrote: [..] > Others have mentioned zram. I've used it, but unless something has > changed one of its limitations is that it can't give up memory. That > is less of an issue if you're using swap since it can be swapped out > if idle. However, if you're not usin

Re: [gentoo-user] tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > I have long been in the camp that thinks tmpfs for /tmp has no > advantages (and may have disadvantages) over a normal filesystem like > ext3, because the files there are normally so small that they will stay > in the page cache 100% of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Qt-4.8.7 bug

2017-05-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 23 May 2017 23:16:48 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 09:49:01AM +0200, Jörg Schaible wrote: > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > well, this does not seem to be the complete truth. When I switched to > > gcc > > 5.x I did a revdep-rebuild for anything tha