Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-29 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:05:49 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 4:24 AM, John Covici wrote: > > OK, I changed to a git repository and did a git whatchanged, but in > > the directory I was looking at namely sys-kernel/dracut, I just got a > > generated commit from about the tim

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 29 Jul 2017 13:03:45 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Don't use kmail > > Seriously, why are putting up with the pain that POS is causing you? > You've been posting about serious kmail and akonadi issues for about 4 > years now if memory serves, and it has never gotten better. It probably > nev

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 29 Jul 2017 15:08:37 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > Alright. Here is an example of the problematic line from the point > of view of "Gentoo's" bash: > > read 'Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' device > > Until i remove the brackets, "Gentoo's" bash keeps error messaging. Which br

[gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-07-29 20:07, Grant Edwards wrote: > > Correct. All my scripts run with IFS='' so for me it does work ;-) > > Ah, I hadn't thought about that. I might have to thy that. It makes > code cleaner-looking when you don't have to put all varible references > inside double-quotes. But, in wha

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 18:26:47 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > > > How do you know that the contents of the script are not relevant > > > when you > > don't know what the problem is? It is also useful to know the exact > > Mathematics (mother of computers) answers: 1+1=2. -- Meaning: same > script w/

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread R0b0t1
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, L, 29.07.2017 kell 12:58, kirjutas R0b0t1: >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Mart Raudsepp >> wrote: >> > Ühel kenal päeval, L, 29.07.2017 kell 13:20, kirjutas tuxic@posteo. >> > de: >> > > The task is already accomplis

[gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2017-07-29, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-07-29 18:48, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > PROMPT='Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' >> > read -p $PROMPT device >> >> Nit: that doesn't work quite right either. It should be >> >> PROMPT='Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' >> read -p "

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 4:24 AM, John Covici wrote: > OK, I changed to a git repository and did a git whatchanged, but in > the directory I was looking at namely sys-kernel/dracut, I just got a > generated commit from about the time I created the repository and none > of the previous history. May

[gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-07-29 18:48, Grant Edwards wrote: > > PROMPT='Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' > > read -p $PROMPT device > > Nit: that doesn't work quite right either. It should be > > PROMPT='Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' > read -p "$PROMPT" device > > or > > read -p 'Enter de

[gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2017-07-29, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-07-29 19:13, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > >> > read 'Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' device >> >> AFAIK, this is not valid syntax for `read` in any shell (even on >> Debian. I just checked) > > Indeed. That should probably be something

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, L, 29.07.2017 kell 12:58, kirjutas R0b0t1: > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Mart Raudsepp > wrote: > > Ühel kenal päeval, L, 29.07.2017 kell 13:20, kirjutas tuxic@posteo. > > de: > > > The task is already accomplished :) with a mixture of WM-based > > > hotkey definitions and

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread R0b0t1
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, L, 29.07.2017 kell 13:20, kirjutas tu...@posteo.de: >> The task is already accomplished :) with a mixture of WM-based >> hotkey definitions and a delayed commandline utility (main,scrot, >> imagemagick). >> Addtionally I d

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread R0b0t1
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:58 AM, wrote: > Long blabla ... short question: > Is there any screenshooter available which can be fully > handled via *configurable* keyboad shortcuts? > Perhaps a bit much, but I recommend: https://github.com/baskerville/sxhkd https://github.com/naelstrof/maim The

[gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-07-29 19:13, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > > read 'Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1,...): ' device > > AFAIK, this is not valid syntax for `read` in any shell (even on > Debian. I just checked) Indeed. That should probably be something like PROMPT='Enter device (like /dev/sd(a1,b1

[gentoo-user] Problem with printer after system update

2017-07-29 Thread Raphael MD
Hi! After a system update, my printer only print documents from internet like sites. When a send .pdf to print, cups return this error: No Pages Found. Did anyone see this error? Thanks

Re:[SOLVED] [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread tuxic
On 07/29 07:17, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, L, 29.07.2017 kell 13:20, kirjutas tu...@posteo.de: > > The task is already accomplished :) with a mixture of WM-based > > hotkey definitions and a delayed commandline utility (main,scrot, > > imagemagick). > > Addtionally I dont think that

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, L, 29.07.2017 kell 13:20, kirjutas tu...@posteo.de: > The task is already accomplished :) with a mixture of WM-based > hotkey definitions and a delayed commandline utility (main,scrot, > imagemagick). > Addtionally I dont think that my X11 uses framebuffer (not shure > about that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Mick
On Saturday 29 Jul 2017 17:26:44 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Glad to hear you got it all fixed. > > btw, there's a useful tool symlinks from the app-misc/symlinks packages > that doues what you wanted with find without having to use find At a size of only 5KB it's my new must-have package! :-) Than

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 17:25, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 29 Jul 2017 17:11:06 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Backup the postgres configs and database files, emerge -C all postgres >> versions, make sure there are no files left with postgres in the name, >> and emerge the version back that you want. Restore your

[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Mick
On Saturday 29 Jul 2017 17:11:06 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Backup the postgres configs and database files, emerge -C all postgres > versions, make sure there are no files left with postgres in the name, > and emerge the version back that you want. Restore your backed up > configs just in case the ebu

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 14:27, Mick wrote: > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:19, Mick > wrote: > > > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:03, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > Don't use kmail > > Seriously, why are putting up with the p

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 14:27, Mick wrote: > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:19, Mick > wrote: > > > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:03, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > Don't use kmail > > Seriously, why are putting up with the p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-29 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 1:04 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> On 2017-07-28 22:01, Rich Freeman wrote: >> I wonder if its because I am still using rsync to sync the portage directory? There are no changelogs anywhere! or nothing by that name. >>> Ah, looks like the

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Mick
On 29 July 2017 at 12:19, Mick wrote: > > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:03, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> >> Don't use kmail >> >> Seriously, why are putting up with the pain that POS is causing you? >> You've been posting about serious kmail and akonadi issues for about 4 >> years now if memory serves, a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:31:34 +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > > There was a bug in historic versions of bash, where it got confused > > if the POSIX syntax for command expansion, that is $( ) , occurred > > within a case statement. I don't know which version it was where it > > got fixed, but I think it

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] build programs in other distros

2017-07-29 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Francisco. On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 18:07:30 -0300, among other, you wrote: > > How do real developers manage this? And why this difference Make building systems for every target distro OR make so-called "snap packages" -- that include everything the packaged software needs. > > happens, in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Jul 29, 2017 12:27, "Ста Деюс" wrote: Hi, Neil. On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:43:53 +0100, you wrote: > > How do you know that the contents of the script are not relevant > > when you > don't know what the problem is? It is also useful to know the exact Mathematics (mother of computers) answers:

Re: [gentoo-user] Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Ста Деюс
Hi, Neil. On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:43:53 +0100, you wrote: > > How do you know that the contents of the script are not relevant > > when you > don't know what the problem is? It is also useful to know the exact Mathematics (mother of computers) answers: 1+1=2. -- Meaning: same script w/ the same

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-29 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 06:17:31 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:47 AM, John Covici wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 22:01:24 -0400, > > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:47 PM, John Covici wrote: > >> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:13:24 -0400, > >> > > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread tuxic
On 07/29 06:52, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 29/07/17 18:05, v...@ukr.net wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:58:50 +0200 > > tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> to display tracking informations (abondomed delivery) to an oversea > >> seller I need to screenshot a dropdown menu. > > Can you

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Mick
On 29 July 2017 at 12:03, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Don't use kmail > > Seriously, why are putting up with the pain that POS is causing you? > You've been posting about serious kmail and akonadi issues for about 4 > years now if memory serves, and it has never gotten better. It probably > never wi

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 13:01, Mick wrote: > Right, I would report it, except I can't recall if I ran eselect after > isntalling 9.6. ... I am *almost* sure I did. > > > Meanwhile fix the symlinks to what they should be using "ln -sfn" and > all will be good in the world. > > -- > Alan Mc

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Mick
On 29 July 2017 at 11:12, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/07/2017 11:59, Mick wrote: > > It seems this is one of these things I keep forgetting how to perform > > correctly, despite taking notes and reading the documentation. I > thought I > > had upgraded postgresql from 9.5.7 to 9.6.3-r1 a couple

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 29/07/17 18:05, v...@ukr.net wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:58:50 +0200 > tu...@posteo.de wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> to display tracking informations (abondomed delivery) to an oversea >> seller I need to screenshot a dropdown menu. Can you access it via ssh? - you may be able to set it up and cop

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread tuxic
On 07/29 01:05, v...@ukr.net wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:58:50 +0200 > tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > to display tracking informations (abondomed delivery) to an oversea > > seller I need to screenshot a dropdown menu. > > Unfortunately this dropdown menu only drops down when touche

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 1:04 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-07-28 22:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > I wonder if its because I am still using rsync to sync the portage >> > directory? There are no changelogs anywhere! or nothing by that >> > name. > >> Ah, looks like they were removed entirely

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

2017-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:47 AM, John Covici wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 22:01:24 -0400, > Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:47 PM, John Covici wrote: >> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:13:24 -0400, >> > >> > I wonder if its because I am still using rsync to sync the portage >> > dir

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 11:59, Mick wrote: > It seems this is one of these things I keep forgetting how to perform > correctly, despite taking notes and reading the documentation. I thought I > had upgraded postgresql from 9.5.7 to 9.6.3-r1 a couple of weeks ago. > > Today depclean asked me to remove 9.5

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread v_2e
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:58:50 +0200 tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > to display tracking informations (abondomed delivery) to an oversea > seller I need to screenshot a dropdown menu. > Unfortunately this dropdown menu only drops down when touched with > the mouse pointer. > This in turn prohibis

[gentoo-user] Re: Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Mick
On Saturday 29 Jul 2017 10:59:39 Mick wrote: > It seems this is one of these things I keep forgetting how to perform > correctly, despite taking notes and reading the documentation. I thought I > had upgraded postgresql from 9.5.7 to 9.6.3-r1 a couple of weeks ago. > > Today depclean asked me to

[gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Mick
It seems this is one of these things I keep forgetting how to perform correctly, despite taking notes and reading the documentation. I thought I had upgraded postgresql from 9.5.7 to 9.6.3-r1 a couple of weeks ago. Today depclean asked me to remove 9.5.7 and after a moment's hesitation I went

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why bash script, that works in "Debian", does not work on "Gentoo" install CD?

2017-07-29 Thread Ста Деюс
> There was a bug in historic versions of bash, where it got confused > if the POSIX syntax for command expansion, that is $( ) , occurred > within a case statement. I don't know which version it was where it > got fixed, but I think it wasn't before 4.*. So what versions of > bash do you have on

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread tuxic
On 07/29 11:09, Dan Johansson wrote: > On 29.07.2017 10:58, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > to display tracking informations (abondomed delivery) to an oversea > > seller I need to screenshot a dropdown menu. > > Unfortunately this dropdown menu only drops down when touched with > > the mouse pointer.

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-python/whoosh fails to compile

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 10:51, John Covici wrote: > Hi. In my latest world update, portage wants to include this new > package dev-python/whoosh. The package fails to compile and googling > and searching bgo yields nothing. > > Any assistance would be appreciated. [snip] > pkg_resources.DistributionNotF

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread Dan Johansson
On 29.07.2017 10:58, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > to display tracking informations (abondomed delivery) to an oversea > seller I need to screenshot a dropdown menu. > Unfortunately this dropdown menu only drops down when touched with > the mouse pointer. > This in turn prohibis any other action with t

Re: [gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
this is fully depends on your WM. First of all, you can just bind scrot on any key combination your WM allow to. Second of all, say, KDE's Spectacle can be used to take screenshot by timeout. So, you set timeout, press "take screenshot", it hides it's window, you open your popup menu, wait for

[gentoo-user] Clickless screenshot...how?

2017-07-29 Thread tuxic
Hi, to display tracking informations (abondomed delivery) to an oversea seller I need to screenshot a dropdown menu. Unfortunately this dropdown menu only drops down when touched with the mouse pointer. This in turn prohibis any other action with the mourse (changeing the window for example). The

[gentoo-user] dev-python/whoosh fails to compile

2017-07-29 Thread John Covici
uild.sh, line 115: Called src_compile * environment, line 2678: Called distutils-r1_src_compile * environment, line 809: Called _distutils-r1_run_common_phase 'python_compile_all' * environment, line 300: Called multibuild_foreach_variant 'distutils-r1_run_phase'