Re: [gentoo-user] #gentoo experiences
From: Michael PalimakaSent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 7:56 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] #gentoo experiences Hi all, I'm collecting information about people's experiences in #gentoo. I'm interested in both good and bad experiences, with users, developers, and operators. Basically, anything that anyone would care to share would be much appreciated. Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd rather not reply here (if so, please let me know if you'd like your response kept totally private - otherwise there is a chance that I might anonymise and share it). Kind regards, Michael Personally, I've always loved the pure customizability, started on slackware back in the day, redhat, mandrake (lol), moved to bsd's for a bit, then ubuntu/fedora. Finally when I found gentoo and gave it a shot, must admit I remember the installing was a bit much for my level back then. Been learning ever since, it's quite shocking how well I handle all sorts of init scripts, portage nuances, and such now. Most things about gentoo have always been top-notch, the only things that do come up from time to time just require some patience to get through. Example package X version Y won't compile, you have many choices, read the errors, see if a dependency perhaps needs fixed/added/updated. See if maybe it's a simple build option that needs added or removed from the ebuild, or possibly a USE flag change. Then the more often then not answer if you aren't in dire need of package X right then, is simply to wait a week, then it'll magically work as someone else using gentoo has found the issue and fixed it. If anyone new to gentoo is reading the mailing list, I would heavily suggest only have vital packages in your world file, never GCC or anything else that gets pulled in by everything under the sun, it just makes emerging more hassle then needed on rare occasions. Hope that helps your cause Michael :) Tsukasa
Re: [gentoo-user] #gentoo experiences
On Sunday, 19 November 2017 19:05:07 GMT Róbert Čerňanský wrote: > On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:37:53 -0800 > > Daniel Freywrote: > > On 11/19/17 08:25, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > > On 11/19/2017 07:56 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> I'm collecting information about people's experiences in #gentoo. > > [...] > > > > The lack of an ncurses setup gui/an express setup option is a major > > > PITA which is why I haven't yet used gentoo as dom0 in a production > > [...] > > > The way it's worded makes me think feedback was requested on the irc > > channels, but maybe I am wrong? > > It would still be nice though if representatives asks users also about > Gentoo as a product. So they know where they are hitting nail on the > head and where they are somehow missing it. > > Robert I've found #gentoo useful on a number of occasions when I needed a quick answer on some problem I was facing and was pleasantly surprised at the knowledge of some of the participants. I still prefer the M/L list though for more involved problems, where a long-winded description and log output may be necessary. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: #gentoo experiences
В письме от понедельник, 20 ноября 2017 г. 0:38:36 +07 пользователь Grant Edwards написал: > On 2017-11-19, Michael Palimakawrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm collecting information about people's experiences in #gentoo. > > Just curious: what is "#gentoo"? > > Something to do with Twitter? IRC
Re: [gentoo-user] #gentoo experiences
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:37:53 -0800 Daniel Freywrote: > On 11/19/17 08:25, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > On 11/19/2017 07:56 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm collecting information about people's experiences in #gentoo. [...] > > The lack of an ncurses setup gui/an express setup option is a major > > PITA which is why I haven't yet used gentoo as dom0 in a production [...] > The way it's worded makes me think feedback was requested on the irc > channels, but maybe I am wrong? It would still be nice though if representatives asks users also about Gentoo as a product. So they know where they are hitting nail on the head and where they are somehow missing it. Robert -- Róbert Čerňanský E-mail: ope...@tightmail.com Jabber: h...@jabber.sk
Re: [gentoo-user] #gentoo experiences
On 11/19/17 09:02, taii...@gmx.com wrote: On 11/19/2017 11:37 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: The way it's worded makes me think feedback was requested on the irc channels, but maybe I am wrong? Ha oh boy. Most people of my generation refer to things as a hashtag on "social" media, such as I just purchased a #brandX computer. I just woke up so I wasn't yet capable of nuance enough to notice that it was IRC instead :[ silly me. Sorry for the misunderstanding folks! Well, it's the mention of 'operators'. I used to be in irc all the time, and had OP and half-OP in some channels, but this is a really long time ago now. I thought twitter too until I read the rest. Dan
[gentoo-user] Re: #gentoo experiences
On 2017-11-19, Michael Palimakawrote: > Hi all, > > I'm collecting information about people's experiences in #gentoo. Just curious: what is "#gentoo"? Something to do with Twitter? -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] #gentoo experiences
On 11/19/2017 11:37 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: The way it's worded makes me think feedback was requested on the irc channels, but maybe I am wrong? Ha oh boy. Most people of my generation refer to things as a hashtag on "social" media, such as I just purchased a #brandX computer. I just woke up so I wasn't yet capable of nuance enough to notice that it was IRC instead :[ silly me. Sorry for the misunderstanding folks!
Re: [gentoo-user] #gentoo experiences
On 11/19/17 08:25, taii...@gmx.com wrote: On 11/19/2017 07:56 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: Hi all, I'm collecting information about people's experiences in #gentoo. Thanks! I'm interested in both good and bad experiences, with users, developers, and operators. Basically, anything that anyone would care to share would be much appreciated. The lack of an ncurses setup gui/an express setup option is a major PITA which is why I haven't yet used gentoo as dom0 in a production environment, If something goes wrong and I am forced to re-install it will take long enough for the boss to think I am bad at my job and it isn't the type of thing one should do late at night. Same for home too - when I get back I want to start my movie watching/gaming VM and kick back. I would really enjoy some type of basic ncurses management gui to assist with the configuration of the litany of options to make things go faster, and to help prevent 2AM mistakes. I like using a CLI, but I also know that it is not always best. Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd rather not reply here (if so, please let me know if you'd like your response kept totally private - otherwise there is a chance that I might anonymise and share it). Like most people I hated using gentoo until I got my first 16 core CPU to ease the compile time suffering, compiling with an average dual or quad core was shockingly slow when I first started using it. Maybe put a list of cheap but high performance CPU's somewhere with a warning to get folks ready for the compile times (ex: the opteron 6386SE $130 used for 16 cores and it doesn't have ME/PSP) The way it's worded makes me think feedback was requested on the irc channels, but maybe I am wrong? Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] #gentoo experiences
On 11/19/2017 07:56 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: Hi all, I'm collecting information about people's experiences in #gentoo. Thanks! I'm interested in both good and bad experiences, with users, developers, and operators. Basically, anything that anyone would care to share would be much appreciated. The lack of an ncurses setup gui/an express setup option is a major PITA which is why I haven't yet used gentoo as dom0 in a production environment, If something goes wrong and I am forced to re-install it will take long enough for the boss to think I am bad at my job and it isn't the type of thing one should do late at night. Same for home too - when I get back I want to start my movie watching/gaming VM and kick back. I would really enjoy some type of basic ncurses management gui to assist with the configuration of the litany of options to make things go faster, and to help prevent 2AM mistakes. I like using a CLI, but I also know that it is not always best. Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd rather not reply here (if so, please let me know if you'd like your response kept totally private - otherwise there is a chance that I might anonymise and share it). Like most people I hated using gentoo until I got my first 16 core CPU to ease the compile time suffering, compiling with an average dual or quad core was shockingly slow when I first started using it. Maybe put a list of cheap but high performance CPU's somewhere with a warning to get folks ready for the compile times (ex: the opteron 6386SE $130 used for 16 cores and it doesn't have ME/PSP)
[gentoo-user] #gentoo experiences
Hi all, I'm collecting information about people's experiences in #gentoo. I'm interested in both good and bad experiences, with users, developers, and operators. Basically, anything that anyone would care to share would be much appreciated. Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd rather not reply here (if so, please let me know if you'd like your response kept totally private - otherwise there is a chance that I might anonymise and share it). Kind regards, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Firefox "Pocket" (Built-In Adware)
On 17.11.2017 03:30, R0b0t1 wrote: > Hello, > > My apologies if this has come up on the list or there is already an > extant answer elsewhere (or if the question doesn't apply, which might > be the case). > > I am not sure how to describe Pocket, but it is advertising that is > prominently featured in the "New Tabs" page. The configuration setting > is also prominently featured in the settings page which it is located. > > I would like to know if there is any recourse. I have disabled it, but > it is still present in the menus. It looks like it generates a unique > advertising ID, which I have cleared in "about:config." > > Cheers, > R0b0t1 > For me, setting extensions.pocket.enabled to false in about:config worked and I no longer have any menu entries either. The same goes for extensions.screenshots.disabled if set to true.