[gentoo-user] Re: trouble with my normal emerge --update @world
On 2018-12-02, allan gottlieb wrote:
> On one of my stable amd64 systems, I just ran
>
> emerge --update --changed-use --with-bdeps=n --deep @world
>
> and received a list of 65 packages to merge (many gnome).
>
> The update completed and I was told
>
> !!! existing preserved libs:
package: dev-libs/libcdio-2.0.0-r1
> * - /usr/lib64/libcdio.so.16
> * - /usr/lib64/libcdio.so.16.0.0
> * used by /usr/bin/libcdio-paranoia (dev-libs/libcdio-paranoia-0.93_p1)
> * used by /usr/lib64/libcdio_cdda.so.2.0.0
> (dev-libs/libcdio-paranoia-0.93_p1)
> * used by /usr/lib64/libcdio_paranoia.so.2.0.0
> (dev-libs/libcdio-paranoia-0.93_p1)
> * used by /usr/libexec/gvfsd-cdda (gnome-base/gvfs-1.32.2)
> Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries
>
> When I ran emerge --pretend @preserved-rebuild I was told to run
> merge dev-qt/qtcore-5.11.1 which is ~amd64, which seems wrong.
> The full output is below.
> Can someone please explain what is happening.
>
> thanks,
> allan
>
> E6430 ~ # emerge --pretend @preserved-rebuild
> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild R] gnome-base/gvfs-1.32.2
> [ebuild R] dev-libs/libcdio-paranoia-0.93_p1
> [nomerge ] gnome-base/gvfs-1.32.2
> [nomerge ] sys-fs/udisks-2.7.4-r1
> [nomerge ] sys-libs/libblockdev-2.14-r1
> [nomerge ]dev-libs/volume_key-0.3.11
> [nomerge ] app-crypt/gpgme-1.11.1
> [nomerge ] dev-qt/qttest-5.9.6
> [ebuild UD~] dev-qt/qtcore-5.9.6-r1 [5.11.1-r1]
>
> !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
> !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
>
> dev-qt/qtcore:5
>
> (dev-qt/qtcore-5.11.1-r1:5/5.11::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
> ~dev-qt/qtcore-5.11.1 required by
> (dev-qt/qtconcurrent-5.11.1:5/5.11::gentoo, installed)
> ^ ^^
>
> (and 9 more with the same problem)
>
> (dev-qt/qtcore-5.9.6-r1:5/5.9::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled
> in by
> ~dev-qt/qtcore-5.9.6 required by (dev-qt/qttest-5.9.6:5/5.9::gentoo,
> installed)
> ^ ^
[...]
I would try upgrading qttest first (it is the one pulling
qtcore-5.9.6{,-r1}, according to the output). Do you have any qttest
5.11.* version which is keyworded amd64 (and not ~amd64)?
Here and on https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-qt/qttest,
qttest-5.11.1 is amd64. Maybe the tree was in an inconsistent state when
you last synced it?
If you have qttest 5.11.1 in ~amd64 and you need a very quick fix, try
adding it to package.accept_keywords and upgrading it. Otherwise, you
might prefer to sync the portage tree again first.
--
Nuno Silva
Re: [gentoo-user] emerging older compilers
On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 11:21:55AM +0100, k...@aspodata.se wrote
> so that means I'm on my own.
You can install a *NON*-default gcc in ${HOME} This is a two-step
process. I used to do this a couple of years ago when Pale Moon was
limited in what versions of gcc it would build on. Note that tarballs
going back to 2.95.1 are available at http://ftpmirror.gnu.org/gcc
Also, be carefull about the tarball extensions, as of approx June 2017
* gcc-6.1.0.tar.bz2 was released 2016/04/27 with bz2 extension
* gcc-5.4.0.tar.bz2 was released 2016/06/03 with bz2 extension
* gcc-6.2.0.tar.bz2 was released 2016/08/22 with bz2 extension
* gcc-6.3.0.tar.bz2 was released 2016/12/21 with bz2 extension
* gcc-6.4.0.tar.xz was released 2017/07/04 with xz extension
* gcc-5.5.0.tar.xz was released 2017/10/10 with xz extension
The download, building, etc, is done in $HOME/gccstuff. I set up an
automated build script in there. E.g. to build gcc-5.4.0 and have it go
to $HOME/gcc540 execute the script
--
#!/bin/bash
#
# Instructions from https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/InstallingGCC
wget http://ftpmirror.gnu.org/gcc/gcc-5.4.0/gcc-5.4.0.tar.bz2
tar xf gcc-5.4.0.tar.bz2
#
# To get gmp, mpc, mpfr, and isl libs
# You *MUST* run this script from the top-level GCC source dir
cd gcc-5.4.0
contrib/download_prerequisites
#
# You *MUST NOT* run ./configure from the GCC source dir
mkdir gcc-5.4.0/gcc-build && cd gcc-5.4.0/gcc-build
../configure --prefix=$HOME/gcc540 \
--disable-multilib \
--enable-libstdcxx-threads \
--enable-libstdcxx-time \
--enable-shared \
--enable-__cxa_atexit \
--disable-libunwind-exceptions \
--disable-libada \
--with-default-libstdcxx-abi=gcc4-compatible
make -j4
make install
--
Notes: in the ../configure invocation include the languages and other
options that you need for your situation. "make -j4" is for a machine
with 4 cores. Adjust to fit your machine.
To invoke gcc from $HOME/gcc540 you have to "source" the following
export statements from a plaintext file, early in your build, e.g.
. path/filename
You must *NOT* invoke a separate shell with #!/bin/bash
For a 64 bit build...
--
export GCCX_ROOT=$HOME/gcc540
export PATH=$GCCX_ROOT/bin:$PATH
export MANPATH=$GCCX_ROOT/share/man:MANPATH
export INFOPATH=$GCCX_ROOT/share/info:$INFOPATH
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$GCCX_ROOT/lib64:$GCCX_ROOT/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export LD_RUN_PATH=$GCCX_ROOT/lib64:$GCCX_ROOT/lib:$LD_RUN_PATH
export LIBRARY_PATH=$GCCX_ROOT/lib64:$GCCX_ROOT/lib:$LIBRARY_PATH
export INCLUDE_PATH=$GCCX_ROOT/include:$INCLUDE_PATH
export CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=$GCCX_ROOT/include:$CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH
export C_INCLUDE_PATH=$GCCX_ROOT/include:$C_INCLUDE_PATH
--
For a 32 bit build do as above, but first search+replace, changing all
instances of "lib64" to "lib".
--
Walter Dnes
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Install 2011 Asus thin lappy
james wrote: > It has and Icore 5, 4 GB and 124GB SSD. If I can I like to nuke the > windows 7 home edition or shrink it way way down, in case I need access > on the windows side. It's really nice, sturdy metal case and very, very > thin. It has a 13.5 inch screen. Perhaps I need to discover all the > hardware particulars before I format of the windows 7 home edition ? > Perhaps I just need to leave the W-7 and shrink it up? > > It only has (2) usb ports and a mini usb port. > I have an Asus usb-to-ethernet, works under window. > I'm not so sure about the bios (EFI) American Megatrends > setting to get it to boot. > > So I was first looking for an easy image to put on a usb 3 drive > with a common linux to get the boot settings right, before I try to > get it to boot/install gentoo. I'd like a very minimize gentoo linux > with a minimized Desktop? Perhaps I should just install and run > a linux install design for these old laptops? Perhaps an older > SystemRescue usb images to test the boot settings? I can do an overthe > ethernet install if necessary, but would prefer a gentoo-usb install > at least for the basic minimize gentoo. > > Suggests, as my experience with usb linux installs is very weak. > A pathway, that is easy to follow, as I might just install several > old laptops, if this works > > So in the bios the aptio setup utility:: > > Boot Option #1 > Windows boot manager (po: Sandisk SSD u100 124GB > Disabled > > OR:: ADD new boot Option > ...Add boot option > (dialog box with 'add boot option) > > > ...SELECT File system > PCI(1F|2)\DevicePath(Type 3, SubType 12)Part1,sig787(long key sequence) > > > ...PATH for boot option > (just a dialog box for 'path for boot option) > > > ...CREATE > (please set boot option name and file path) > > > > > > > > In the bios it also has:: > > Save Changes & Exit > "Boot Override > > Windows boot mgr > > Launch EFI shell from file system device > > > Suggestions, and which instructions to follow (I found several in the > gentoo wiki not to mention other gentoo laptop install pages. > > Perhaps a bios update before beginning? No, a bad idea? > > Openboot or another open bios on this old but sturdy laptop? > > I could just use a live-gentoo rewritable usb 3 (thumb drive) on it and > forget the install? > > > All suggestions and references appreciated. > > > I'm pretty clueless about laptops but have one idea. For something to boot from, either Knoppix or sysrescurecd should work. I think Knoppix is still available. One thing about booting one of those, especially sysrescuecd, you can find out what drivers are used to drive what components. I use the command lspci -k myself. It displays what is needed generally. Although sysrescuecd has CD in it, you can burn it to a USB stick as well. That's how I do mine here. Last one I got was under 600MBs. It should fit just fine even on a 1GB stick. http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/ It appears Knoppix is still around. http://www.knoppix.org/ Maybe someone else can come along with more ideas. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Install 2011 Asus thin lappy
It has and Icore 5, 4 GB and 124GB SSD. If I can I like to nuke the windows 7 home edition or shrink it way way down, in case I need access on the windows side. It's really nice, sturdy metal case and very, very thin. It has a 13.5 inch screen. Perhaps I need to discover all the hardware particulars before I format of the windows 7 home edition ? Perhaps I just need to leave the W-7 and shrink it up? It only has (2) usb ports and a mini usb port. I have an Asus usb-to-ethernet, works under window. I'm not so sure about the bios (EFI) American Megatrends setting to get it to boot. So I was first looking for an easy image to put on a usb 3 drive with a common linux to get the boot settings right, before I try to get it to boot/install gentoo. I'd like a very minimize gentoo linux with a minimized Desktop? Perhaps I should just install and run a linux install design for these old laptops? Perhaps an older SystemRescue usb images to test the boot settings? I can do an overthe ethernet install if necessary, but would prefer a gentoo-usb install at least for the basic minimize gentoo. Suggests, as my experience with usb linux installs is very weak. A pathway, that is easy to follow, as I might just install several old laptops, if this works So in the bios the aptio setup utility:: Boot Option #1 Windows boot manager (po: Sandisk SSD u100 124GB Disabled OR:: ADD new boot Option ...Add boot option (dialog box with 'add boot option) ...SELECT File system PCI(1F|2)\DevicePath(Type 3, SubType 12)Part1,sig787(long key sequence) ...PATH for boot option (just a dialog box for 'path for boot option) ...CREATE (please set boot option name and file path) In the bios it also has:: Save Changes & Exit "Boot Override Windows boot mgr Launch EFI shell from file system device Suggestions, and which instructions to follow (I found several in the gentoo wiki not to mention other gentoo laptop install pages. Perhaps a bios update before beginning? No, a bad idea? Openboot or another open bios on this old but sturdy laptop? I could just use a live-gentoo rewritable usb 3 (thumb drive) on it and forget the install? All suggestions and references appreciated.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Small (as in footprint) window manager
ratpoison is a good option for mythtv - no mouse but it maps keyboard to window manager functions. Ideal for using a remote as its easy to map the keys. BillK On 3/12/18 4:54 am, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 12/2/18 11:14 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> MythTV's requirement to use a GUI setup program on a "headless" >> server, always seemed like a massively stupid design decision. > > Yes, it was a dumb decision. However, I suppose it's better than > having to edit that by hand... they could've uses a cli or curses > interface or something. > >> >> That said, it's been many years since I've run MythTV. I switched to >> SageTV because of the brilliantly small and silent set-top-boxes. But >> Google bought SageTV and pulled the plug on that, so a year or two >> back I switched to Plex (which you configure via a web UI). The Plex >> plugin for OSMC/Kodi has a clumsy UI, but works pretty well. However, >> the Plex app for Roku seems to be useless... >> > > I've only ever run MythTV. Lately though I use Kodi with Kodi's Myth > plugin on all TVs but my living room TV and computer. > > Usually when I'm doing work to this I'm physically in front of it. > Fluxbox seems nice, going to try windowmaker and it's terminal but gcc > barfed compiling Objective-C support. Trying it again... one of my PCs > compiled the objc USE-flag fine, and the other didn't. > > > Dan >
[gentoo-user] trouble with my normal emerge --update @world
On one of my stable amd64 systems, I just ran emerge --update --changed-use --with-bdeps=n --deep @world and received a list of 65 packages to merge (many gnome). The update completed and I was told !!! existing preserved libs: >>> package: dev-libs/libcdio-2.0.0-r1 * - /usr/lib64/libcdio.so.16 * - /usr/lib64/libcdio.so.16.0.0 * used by /usr/bin/libcdio-paranoia (dev-libs/libcdio-paranoia-0.93_p1) * used by /usr/lib64/libcdio_cdda.so.2.0.0 (dev-libs/libcdio-paranoia-0.93_p1) * used by /usr/lib64/libcdio_paranoia.so.2.0.0 (dev-libs/libcdio-paranoia-0.93_p1) * used by /usr/libexec/gvfsd-cdda (gnome-base/gvfs-1.32.2) Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries When I ran emerge --pretend @preserved-rebuild I was told to run merge dev-qt/qtcore-5.11.1 which is ~amd64, which seems wrong. The full output is below. Can someone please explain what is happening. thanks, allan E6430 ~ # emerge --pretend @preserved-rebuild These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R] gnome-base/gvfs-1.32.2 [ebuild R] dev-libs/libcdio-paranoia-0.93_p1 [nomerge ] gnome-base/gvfs-1.32.2 [nomerge ] sys-fs/udisks-2.7.4-r1 [nomerge ] sys-libs/libblockdev-2.14-r1 [nomerge ]dev-libs/volume_key-0.3.11 [nomerge ] app-crypt/gpgme-1.11.1 [nomerge ] dev-qt/qttest-5.9.6 [ebuild UD~] dev-qt/qtcore-5.9.6-r1 [5.11.1-r1] !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: dev-qt/qtcore:5 (dev-qt/qtcore-5.11.1-r1:5/5.11::gentoo, installed) pulled in by ~dev-qt/qtcore-5.11.1 required by (dev-qt/qtconcurrent-5.11.1:5/5.11::gentoo, installed) ^ ^^ (and 9 more with the same problem) (dev-qt/qtcore-5.9.6-r1:5/5.9::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by ~dev-qt/qtcore-5.9.6 required by (dev-qt/qttest-5.9.6:5/5.9::gentoo, installed) ^ ^ NOTE: Use the '--verbose-conflicts' option to display parents omitted above It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a conflict exists in the dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can not be installed simultaneously. For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: (see "package.accept_keywords" in the portage(5) man page for more details) # required by dev-qt/qttest-5.9.6::gentoo # required by app-crypt/gpgme-1.11.1::gentoo[qt5] # required by app-crypt/seahorse-3.20.0::gentoo # required by gnome-base/gnome-core-apps-3.24.2::gentoo # required by gnome-base/gnome-3.24.2::gentoo # required by @selected # required by @world (argument) =dev-qt/qtcore-5.9.6-r1 ~amd64 * In order to avoid wasting time, backtracking has terminated early * due to the above autounmask change(s). The --autounmask-backtrack=y * option can be used to force further backtracking, but there is no * guarantee that it will produce a solution. * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. * Use eselect news read to view new items. E6430 ~ #
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Small (as in footprint) window manager
On 12/2/18 11:14 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: MythTV's requirement to use a GUI setup program on a "headless" server, always seemed like a massively stupid design decision. Yes, it was a dumb decision. However, I suppose it's better than having to edit that by hand... they could've uses a cli or curses interface or something. That said, it's been many years since I've run MythTV. I switched to SageTV because of the brilliantly small and silent set-top-boxes. But Google bought SageTV and pulled the plug on that, so a year or two back I switched to Plex (which you configure via a web UI). The Plex plugin for OSMC/Kodi has a clumsy UI, but works pretty well. However, the Plex app for Roku seems to be useless... I've only ever run MythTV. Lately though I use Kodi with Kodi's Myth plugin on all TVs but my living room TV and computer. Usually when I'm doing work to this I'm physically in front of it. Fluxbox seems nice, going to try windowmaker and it's terminal but gcc barfed compiling Objective-C support. Trying it again... one of my PCs compiled the objc USE-flag fine, and the other didn't. Dan
[gentoo-user] Re: Small (as in footprint) window manager
On 2018-12-02, Jack wrote: > On 2018.12.01 23:21, Daniel Frey wrote: >> I ran into one issue, that being on my server (mythtv, file, etc) I >> am normally in text/ssh mode but occasionally I need X for something. >> >> [...] >> >> This all stems from occasionally needing a gui for configuring >> mythtv or the ability to have two shells open side by side. > What about not installing xorg at all on that box, and just ssh'ing in > from a different PC with full desktop setup when you need a gui? That's mostly what I used to do when I ran a headless MythTV server. You have to have all the X11 _client_ stuff installed on the MythTV server, but you don't actually have to have an X11 server on the MythTV server. You can run the MythTV GUI configuration program remotely via the normal command line magic "DISPLAY= mythtv-setup", or you can let ssh -X/-Y options handle it for you with somethi8ng like "ssh -X mythtv-setup@my-mythv-server". MythTV's requirement to use a GUI setup program on a "headless" server, always seemed like a massively stupid design decision. That said, it's been many years since I've run MythTV. I switched to SageTV because of the brilliantly small and silent set-top-boxes. But Google bought SageTV and pulled the plug on that, so a year or two back I switched to Plex (which you configure via a web UI). The Plex plugin for OSMC/Kodi has a clumsy UI, but works pretty well. However, the Plex app for Roku seems to be useless... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! ... I want a COLOR at T.V. and a VIBRATING BED!!! gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Small (as in footprint) window manager
On 2018.12.01 23:21, Daniel Frey wrote: I've been trying to clean up my machines (pruning world file, etc) and am making progress. I ran into one issue, that being on my server (mythtv, file, etc) I am normally in text/ssh mode but occasionally I need X for something. Does anyone have suggestions for a small-footprint window manager (I have no need for a full desktop environment) as twm is just fugly and sometimes not intuitive. I also don't need a file manager as I use Midnight Commander which works well for my needs. This all stems from occasionally needing a gui for configuring mythtv or the ability to have two shells open side by side. I am thinking others have most likely had this problem at some point and have found something that's lightweight for this type of purpose. Dan What about not installing xorg at all on that box, and just ssh'ing in from a different PC with full desktop setup when you need a gui? Jack
Re: [gentoo-user] emerging older compilers
Andreas: > Policy is that you *should* be able to go back in steps of two versions. > Eg. emerge 4.8 with 5.0 ... # gcc-config -l [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-6.4.0 * [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-7.3.0 # That means, go from 6.4 -> 6.2 -> 6.0 -> ... ? But I don't have thoose ebuilds: $ ls -1 portage/sys-devel/gcc/ ... gcc-5.4.0-r4.ebuild gcc-5.4.0-r5.ebuild gcc-5.4.0-r6.ebuild gcc-6.4.0-r1.ebuild gcc-6.4.0-r3.ebuild gcc-6.4.0-r4.ebuild gcc-6.4.0-r5.ebuild gcc-6.5.0.ebuild ... so that means I'm on my own. Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden
Re: [gentoo-user] Small (as in footprint) window manager
On Sunday, 2 December 2018 09:20:13 GMT Róbert Čerňanský wrote: > On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 22:38:01 -0600 > > Dale wrote: > > Daniel Frey wrote: > > > I've been trying to clean up my machines (pruning world file, etc) > > > and am making progress. > > > > > > I ran into one issue, that being on my server (mythtv, file, etc) I > > > am normally in text/ssh mode but occasionally I need X for > > > something. > > > > > > Does anyone have suggestions for a small-footprint window manager (I > > > have no need for a full desktop environment) as twm is just fugly > > > and sometimes not intuitive. I also don't need a file manager as I > > > use Midnight Commander which works well for my needs. This all > > > stems from occasionally needing a gui for configuring mythtv or the > > > ability to have two shells open side by side. > > > > > > I am thinking others have most likely had this problem at some point > > > and have found something that's lightweight for this type of > > > purpose. > > > > > > Dan > > > > It's been a while but last I used Fluxbox, it was tiny. If you just > > do a basic install, it isn't much to it. Of course, it isn't feature > > rich either but it should run well on a low powered machine or > > consume very little resources on a bigger system. I've got two > > fluxbox packages installed here. Here is some info on them. > > > > > > root@fireball / # equery s x11-themes/fluxbox-styles-fluxmod > > x11-wm/fluxbox > > * x11-themes/fluxbox-styles-fluxmod-20050128-r1 > > Total files : 1539 > > Total size : 4.22 MiB > > > > * x11-wm/fluxbox-1.3.7-r3 > > Total files : 339 > > Total size : 3.89 MiB > > root@fireball / # > > Windowmaker is also a good choice. I'm still using for main desktop. > > $ equery s windowmaker > * x11-wm/windowmaker-0.95.8-r1 > Total files : 495 > Total size : 5.76 MiB > > Or you may consider forwarding X to the machine you are connecting > from: > > $ ssh -Y > > Then start whatever X application you need and it will be displayed on > your local machine. You do not need window manager on the server. > > Robert It hasn't been mentioned, but if the main use case is to have more than one terminal running in the same login session, you could use tmux on a console and split that into multiple terminals on the same screen. If you try enlightenment you should use the old e16, which is relatively lightweight and still maintained. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Small (as in footprint) window manager
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 22:38:01 -0600 Dale wrote: > Daniel Frey wrote: > > I've been trying to clean up my machines (pruning world file, etc) > > and am making progress. > > > > I ran into one issue, that being on my server (mythtv, file, etc) I > > am normally in text/ssh mode but occasionally I need X for > > something. > > > > Does anyone have suggestions for a small-footprint window manager (I > > have no need for a full desktop environment) as twm is just fugly > > and sometimes not intuitive. I also don't need a file manager as I > > use Midnight Commander which works well for my needs. This all > > stems from occasionally needing a gui for configuring mythtv or the > > ability to have two shells open side by side. > > > > I am thinking others have most likely had this problem at some point > > and have found something that's lightweight for this type of > > purpose. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > It's been a while but last I used Fluxbox, it was tiny. If you just > do a basic install, it isn't much to it. Of course, it isn't feature > rich either but it should run well on a low powered machine or > consume very little resources on a bigger system. I've got two > fluxbox packages installed here. Here is some info on them. > > > root@fireball / # equery s x11-themes/fluxbox-styles-fluxmod > x11-wm/fluxbox > * x11-themes/fluxbox-styles-fluxmod-20050128-r1 > Total files : 1539 > Total size : 4.22 MiB > > * x11-wm/fluxbox-1.3.7-r3 > Total files : 339 > Total size : 3.89 MiB > root@fireball / # Windowmaker is also a good choice. I'm still using for main desktop. $ equery s windowmaker * x11-wm/windowmaker-0.95.8-r1 Total files : 495 Total size : 5.76 MiB Or you may consider forwarding X to the machine you are connecting from: $ ssh -Y Then start whatever X application you need and it will be displayed on your local machine. You do not need window manager on the server. Robert -- Róbert Čerňanský E-mail: ope...@tightmail.com Jabber: h...@jabber.sk
