Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage/distfiles vs /var/cache/distfiles

2020-01-14 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 06:33:58PM -0500, Andrew Udvare wrote:

> The first machine is on a 17.1 profile, and migration was relatively
> simple, and worked. I did it based on this post:
> 
> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8373904.html?sid=5c30f451df89c01a6bbe0a8dadd77c36#8373904

I'm already on the 17.1 profile. Thanks for the link.





Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage/distfiles vs /var/cache/distfiles

2020-01-14 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 05:48:40PM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote:

> The portage ebuild has some code that automatically patches
> /usr/share/portage/config/make.globals for existing installs. You can
> update the setting there.

Ah, I didn't look there in my search :).

Cool, thanks much for the info.



Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage/distfiles vs /var/cache/distfiles

2020-01-14 Thread Andrew Udvare
On 14/01/2020 17:05, Paul B. Henson wrote:
> I recently installed a new server, and noticed that it is using
> /var/cache/distfiles rather than /usr/portage/distfiles. looking at the
> documentation, it seems that is the new default, and it says "new
> installations" will use it. I have older servers which are still using
> /usr/portage/distfiles. None of them have DISTDIR configured, so I am
> curious how portage is deciding between "old" and new"? If I wanted to
> migrate my older boxes to the new location without explicitly setting
> DISTDIR on them, what do I need to change?
> 
> Thanks…
> 
I attempted to do this migration on two machines but was only successful
once. Pretty sure this is because of not using 17.1 profile on the
failing machine.

The first machine is on a 17.1 profile, and migration was relatively
simple, and worked. I did it based on this post:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8373904.html?sid=5c30f451df89c01a6bbe0a8dadd77c36#8373904

On the second machine, I did not change to profile 17.1. After moving
the files around, no matter what I tried, Portage refused to check the
new DISTDIR. I haven't had time to switch this machine to 17.1 yet.

Andrew



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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird Datepicker

2020-01-14 Thread Nicolai Beuermann

Am 14.01.20 um 13:15 schrieb Jens Pelzetter:

since some weeks ago I have a problem with Thunderbird/Lightning. In the
dialogs for tasks or events I can't input or change dialog. Clicking on
the buttons to show the calendar does nothing. If I try the edit an
using the keyboard the date it reset to the previous value once the date
input loses the focus.

Does anyone of you experience to same problem. I have this problem on
two different systems, one running Xfce and other one running KDE Plasma.



Yes. Me. I'm on Plasma, too.

Clicking the date in the editor does not open the calendar popup
anymore. Clicking the time the popup to choose the time still appears.

First I thought that's a permission problem, but other calendar apps on
smartphone and mac work flawlessly.
tb/lightning on mac os works as expected

KDE Plasma Version: 5.17.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.64.0
Qt Version: 5.13.2
Kernel Version: 5.4.11-gentoo-14.01.2020

mail-client/thunderbird-68.4.1

did you try other distribution?


nico

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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage/distfiles vs /var/cache/distfiles

2020-01-14 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 5:05 PM Paul B. Henson  wrote:
>
> I recently installed a new server, and noticed that it is using
> /var/cache/distfiles rather than /usr/portage/distfiles. looking at the
> documentation, it seems that is the new default, and it says "new
> installations" will use it. I have older servers which are still using
> /usr/portage/distfiles. None of them have DISTDIR configured, so I am
> curious how portage is deciding between "old" and new"? If I wanted to
> migrate my older boxes to the new location without explicitly setting
> DISTDIR on them, what do I need to change?

The portage ebuild has some code that automatically patches
/usr/share/portage/config/make.globals for existing installs. You can
update the setting there.

Alternatively, you can perform the following steps to make the portage
ebuild update make.globals for you.

1. Set DISTDIR to anything other than /usr/portage/distfiles in
/etc/portage/make.conf
2. Re-install sys-apps/portage.
3. Remove the DISTDIR setting from /etc/portage/make.conf.

>From then on, portage will no longer patch the default DISTDIR setting
in make.globals.

Reference: 
https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/portage.git/tree/lib/portage/_compat_upgrade/default_locations.py?h=portage-2.3.84



[gentoo-user] /usr/portage/distfiles vs /var/cache/distfiles

2020-01-14 Thread Paul B. Henson
I recently installed a new server, and noticed that it is using 
/var/cache/distfiles rather than /usr/portage/distfiles. looking at the 
documentation, it seems that is the new default, and it says "new 
installations" will use it. I have older servers which are still using 
/usr/portage/distfiles. None of them have DISTDIR configured, so I am 
curious how portage is deciding between "old" and new"? If I wanted to 
migrate my older boxes to the new location without explicitly setting 
DISTDIR on them, what do I need to change?


Thanks…



[gentoo-user] Re: WTF is up with mysqld?

2020-01-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-01-13 11:09, Alan Grimes wrote:

> mysqld goes into infinite hang when I try to boot my damn manchine.

Missing entropy?  Try installing haveged.

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Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:47:51 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> > sent 2.71M bytes  received 218.79M bytes  56.02K bytes/sec  
> 
> HOW long?! 56KB/s shows something going badly wrong.

This sounds like it could be a network problem. Have you used
mirrorselect?
 
> > total size is 208.96M  speedup is 0.94  
> 
> I've never seen a speedup less than 1 before.
> 
> >   * Manifest timestamp: 2020-01-12 18:38:55 UTC
> >   * Valid OpenPGP signature found:
> >   * - primary key: DCD05B71EAB94199527F44ACDB6B8C1F96D8BF6D
> >   * - subkey: E1D6ABB63BFCFB4BA02FDF1CEC590EEAC9189250
> >   * - timestamp: 2020-01-12 18:38:55 UTC
> >   * Verifying /var/db/repos/gentoo/.tmp-unverified-download-quarantine
> > ...!!! Manifest v>
> > Manifest mismatch for media-plugins/Manifest.gz
> >__size__: expected: 48363, have: 48349  
> 
> That would indeed leave the tree safely in quarantine.

I wondered if the file was truncated from some sort of network problem,
until I checked my tree and saw that that file was 48349 bytes and
portage was really happy.
 
> > Inodes?  That's an interesting thought.  Not sure how I'd check that
> > ... I'll redirect the output into a file next time.
> > 
> > What would I look for in the top(1) status lines (the lines at the top
> > before the process table?)?  
> 
> I'd want to see how much memory and swap were consumed and available;
> the processor load may offer you a clue too.
>  
> > With emerge-webrsync do you mean webrsync or is there some additional
> > facility?  
> 
> According to the Wiki* the first thing you do after chrooting into the
> new system is to issue the command 'emerge-webrsync'. I suggest you try
> it.

I would definitely try emerge-webrsync as it downloads a consistent
snapshot of the system. You say you have no network or bandwidth
restrictions, but 56K/s says otherwise.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

... but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because
some watery tart threw a sword at you!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

2020-01-14 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:39:57 GMT you wrote:
> On 1/13/20 5:24 PM, (Nuno Silva) wrote:
> > On 2020-01-13, james wrote:
> >> On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote:
> >>> Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this
> >>> message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your
> >>> information.
> >>> 
> >>> Here is the list of the bounced messages:
> >>> - 189231
> > 
> > How does one get to the message from that number? 

In order to receive an email of the bounced message you can send an empty 
message to the mailing list server, with the number of the message which was 
bounced in the address, e.g. to receive a copy of the above message number 
"189231", send this to the list:

gentoo-user+get-189...@lists.gentoo.org

HOWEVER ... your mailserver may still bounce the resent message.  I just tried 
to retrieve it manually, only for it to be bounced again silently by Gmail.  
If I hadn't received another notice for the same bounced message number by the 
M/L address 'gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org', I wouldn't know Gmail 
bounced it once more.  :-/


> > Is it possible to get
> > an URL to the archived copy at http://archives.gentoo.org/ using that
> > number?

Hmm ... not sure if this is possible, or I don't know how to receive bounced 
messages via http.  The way I do it is by following a process of elimination.  
I check an online M/L archive service and the bounced message is the one I 
have not received out of the list of recent messages.


> >> Anyone else getting these?

Yep. I do, but it may well be related to me using a Gmail to receive messages 
and Gmail may be rejecting the odd message for some reason.  I have not added 
any recipients to a blacklist myself, so this is a Gmail action.


> > It might just be the DMARC policy thing again.
> > 
> > Here's a thread from last October/November about a similar message:
> > https://marc.info/?t=15725373431
> 
> It's my list emails, where I start a new subject. Usually, I can reply
> to an existing thread without issue.

Hi James.  I did receive your email yesterday from your verizon email address 
about Mesos, via the M/L.  It was titled "mesos updated ebuild advice?".  Your 
messages are being delivered to this M/L and Gmail distributes them without 
bouncing as far as I can surmise:

https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-user=157895127422780

The messages which seem to be bounced by Gmail are sent by Mr. Alan Grimes.  
The most recent bounced message was yesterday, titled "WTF is up with mysqld?"


> I've read this and still do not know what *I* need to do to fix this, or
> implement a workaround. I use thunderbird-(Installed versions:  68.4.1).

Nothing you need to do.  If people do not respond to a message it could well 
mean they have nothing valuable to add, rather than they haven't received it.

-- 
Regards,

Mick

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Fw: Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread n952162
I guess you're referring to this:

"The use of emerge-webrsync is recommended for those who are behind restrictive 
firewalls (because it uses HTTP/FTP protocols for downloading the snapshot) and 
saves network bandwidth. Readers who have no network or bandwidth restrictions 
can happily skip down to the next section."

Indeed that was a sub-theme of my question (although I oversaw that "emerge-" 
was indeed part of the command): could that have an impact on my problem?  I'm 
not behind a firewall and have no bandwidth restrictions (DSL).  It's a bad 
state when you start having to do things which are nominally not relevant, 
because you don't have anything else to lose (but time).  That's called 
"grasping at straws"


> Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Januar 2020 um 16:47 Uhr
> Von: "Peter Humphrey" 
> An: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Betreff: Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine
>
> On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 11:07:34 GMT n952162 wrote:
> > On 2020-01-14 11:10, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> --->8
> > >> This is a fresh install from a minimal cd image.  I'm starting out with
> > >> mkfs.  I've tried that 3 times, twice using a stage 3 from 2020/01/08
> > >> and once using a stage 3 from 2020/01/12.
> > >
> > > Er...you aren't running out of disk space, are you (either physical space
> > > or inodes)? Don't forget /tmp and /var/tmp. And what result did 'emerge
> > > --sync' return? Specifically, did you see a 'Sync completed' message?
> > > Have you watched /usr/bin/top status lines while syncing?
> > >
> > > And have you actually tried emerge-webrsync?
> >
> > 'emerge --sync' gave me status 1 and before that, the error about the
> > manifest:
>
> I didn't see a manifest error before; perhaps I overlooked it.
>
> > Number of files: 158,236 (reg: 131,524, dir: 26,712)
> > Number of created files: 158,235 (reg: 131,524, dir: 26,711)
> > Number of deleted files: 0
> > Number of regular files transferred: 131,524
> > Total file size: 208.96M bytes
> > Total transferred file size: 208.96M bytes
> > Literal data: 208.96M bytes
> > Matched data: 0 bytes
> > File list size: 3.90M
> > File list generation time: 0.001 seconds
> > File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds
> > Total bytes sent: 2.71M
> > Total bytes received: 218.79M
> >
> > sent 2.71M bytes  received 218.79M bytes  56.02K bytes/sec
>
> HOW long?! 56KB/s shows something going badly wrong.
>
> > total size is 208.96M  speedup is 0.94
>
> I've never seen a speedup less than 1 before.
>
> >   * Manifest timestamp: 2020-01-12 18:38:55 UTC
> >   * Valid OpenPGP signature found:
> >   * - primary key: DCD05B71EAB94199527F44ACDB6B8C1F96D8BF6D
> >   * - subkey: E1D6ABB63BFCFB4BA02FDF1CEC590EEAC9189250
> >   * - timestamp: 2020-01-12 18:38:55 UTC
> >   * Verifying /var/db/repos/gentoo/.tmp-unverified-download-quarantine
> > ...!!! Manifest v>
> > Manifest mismatch for media-plugins/Manifest.gz
> >__size__: expected: 48363, have: 48349
>
> That would indeed leave the tree safely in quarantine.
>
> > Inodes?  That's an interesting thought.  Not sure how I'd check that ...
> > I'll redirect the output into a file next time.
> >
> > What would I look for in the top(1) status lines (the lines at the top
> > before the process table?)?
>
> I'd want to see how much memory and swap were consumed and available; the
> processor load may offer you a clue too.
>
> > With emerge-webrsync do you mean webrsync or is there some additional
> > facility?
>
> According to the Wiki* the first thing you do after chrooting into the new
> system is to issue the command 'emerge-webrsync'. I suggest you try it.
>
>
> *  
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Base#Installing_an_ebuild_repository_snapshot_from_the_web
>
> --
> Regards,
> Peter.
>
>
>
>
>



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

2020-01-14 Thread james

On 1/13/20 5:24 PM, (Nuno Silva) wrote:

On 2020-01-13, james wrote:


On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote:


Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this
message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your
information.

Here is the list of the bounced messages:
- 189231


How does one get to the message from that number? Is it possible to get
an URL to the archived copy at http://archives.gentoo.org/ using that
number?


Anyone else getting these?


It might just be the DMARC policy thing again.

Here's a thread from last October/November about a similar message:
https://marc.info/?t=15725373431




It's my list emails, where I start a new subject. Usually, I can reply 
to an existing thread without issue.


I've read this and still do not know what *I* need to do to fix this, or 
implement a workaround. I use thunderbird-(Installed versions:  68.4.1).



So some explicit pathways to a solution/workaround would be appreciated. 
I also have a "free" limited/restricted email address::
'dtf...@protonmail.com'  not sure if using this address would fix 
things. The nice thing about 'thunderbird'
is I have a vast amount of saved emails, and it has worked flawlessly, 
until these bounced messages started this year.


I've read through that aforementioned thread, but, being old and slow, I 
did not see a fix for me. Perhaps gentoo runs a mail server, if I setup 
with proxy-maintainer?


I was trying to post a new about MESOS 'A distributed systems kernel'. 
Back in 2015 I have a working EAPI-5 gentoo ebuild, which I have 
locally. Upgraded to

Mesos-1.9.0 via EAPI 7(or ?) was the guidance I was looking for.

So can I get a gentoo-rookie-proxy mail server access?
I'm quite certain *MY* issues are due to how Verizon
administers the mail services. Often, when I fire up Thunderbird, it 
pucks for a few hours, then starts working with repetitive sends and 
pulls. I guess it finally reverts back to something that works for 
Thunderbird. I've been using thunderbird for a very, very long time and 
have little desire to stop using thunderbird, as my main email system. 
Now setting up
an easy-to-admin mail system(s) that is thunderbird friendly;  I'm all 
ears. I may be getting a single static IP, to facilitate just that, from 
Verizon or ?.



Any help via this list or direct is most appreciated.

James




Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 11:07:34 GMT n952162 wrote:
> On 2020-01-14 11:10, Peter Humphrey wrote:
--->8
> >> This is a fresh install from a minimal cd image.  I'm starting out with
> >> mkfs.  I've tried that 3 times, twice using a stage 3 from 2020/01/08
> >> and once using a stage 3 from 2020/01/12.
> > 
> > Er...you aren't running out of disk space, are you (either physical space
> > or inodes)? Don't forget /tmp and /var/tmp. And what result did 'emerge
> > --sync' return? Specifically, did you see a 'Sync completed' message?
> > Have you watched /usr/bin/top status lines while syncing?
> > 
> > And have you actually tried emerge-webrsync?
> 
> 'emerge --sync' gave me status 1 and before that, the error about the
> manifest:

I didn't see a manifest error before; perhaps I overlooked it.

> Number of files: 158,236 (reg: 131,524, dir: 26,712)
> Number of created files: 158,235 (reg: 131,524, dir: 26,711)
> Number of deleted files: 0
> Number of regular files transferred: 131,524
> Total file size: 208.96M bytes
> Total transferred file size: 208.96M bytes
> Literal data: 208.96M bytes
> Matched data: 0 bytes
> File list size: 3.90M
> File list generation time: 0.001 seconds
> File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds
> Total bytes sent: 2.71M
> Total bytes received: 218.79M
> 
> sent 2.71M bytes  received 218.79M bytes  56.02K bytes/sec

HOW long?! 56KB/s shows something going badly wrong.

> total size is 208.96M  speedup is 0.94

I've never seen a speedup less than 1 before.

>   * Manifest timestamp: 2020-01-12 18:38:55 UTC
>   * Valid OpenPGP signature found:
>   * - primary key: DCD05B71EAB94199527F44ACDB6B8C1F96D8BF6D
>   * - subkey: E1D6ABB63BFCFB4BA02FDF1CEC590EEAC9189250
>   * - timestamp: 2020-01-12 18:38:55 UTC
>   * Verifying /var/db/repos/gentoo/.tmp-unverified-download-quarantine
> ...!!! Manifest v>
> Manifest mismatch for media-plugins/Manifest.gz
>__size__: expected: 48363, have: 48349

That would indeed leave the tree safely in quarantine.

> Inodes?  That's an interesting thought.  Not sure how I'd check that ...
> I'll redirect the output into a file next time.
> 
> What would I look for in the top(1) status lines (the lines at the top
> before the process table?)?

I'd want to see how much memory and swap were consumed and available; the
processor load may offer you a clue too.
 
> With emerge-webrsync do you mean webrsync or is there some additional
> facility?

According to the Wiki* the first thing you do after chrooting into the new
system is to issue the command 'emerge-webrsync'. I suggest you try it.


*  
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Base#Installing_an_ebuild_repository_snapshot_from_the_web

-- 
Regards,
Peter.






Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote:
> On 2020-01-14 11:10, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 09:37:24 GMT n952162 wrote:
>>> On 2020-01-14 09:44, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 09:04:13 +0100, n952162 wrote:
> It sounds to me like the repository is broken - having ownership
> as root
> seems to be slightly more entropy than portage and could have
> happened
> as a unintended consequence of some uncarefully completed operation.
 If the repository was broken, it would be affecting a lot more people
 than just you.

 Have you tried completely removing your portage tree and
 reinstating it
 with webrsync?
>>> This is a fresh install from a minimal cd image.  I'm starting out with
>>> mkfs.  I've tried that 3 times, twice using a stage 3 from 2020/01/08
>>> and once using a stage 3 from 2020/01/12.
>> Er...you aren't running out of disk space, are you (either physical
>> space or
>> inodes)? Don't forget /tmp and /var/tmp. And what result did 'emerge
>> --sync'
>> return? Specifically, did you see a 'Sync completed' message? Have
>> you watched
>> /usr/bin/top status lines while syncing?
>>
>> And have you actually tried emerge-webrsync?
>>
>
> 'emerge --sync' gave me status 1 and before that, the error about the
> manifest:
>
>
> Number of files: 158,236 (reg: 131,524, dir: 26,712)
> Number of created files: 158,235 (reg: 131,524, dir: 26,711)
> Number of deleted files: 0
> Number of regular files transferred: 131,524
> Total file size: 208.96M bytes
> Total transferred file size: 208.96M bytes
> Literal data: 208.96M bytes
> Matched data: 0 bytes
> File list size: 3.90M
> File list generation time: 0.001 seconds
> File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds
> Total bytes sent: 2.71M
> Total bytes received: 218.79M
>
> sent 2.71M bytes  received 218.79M bytes  56.02K bytes/sec
> total size is 208.96M  speedup is 0.94
>  * Manifest timestamp: 2020-01-12 18:38:55 UTC
>  * Valid OpenPGP signature found:
>  * - primary key: DCD05B71EAB94199527F44ACDB6B8C1F96D8BF6D
>  * - subkey: E1D6ABB63BFCFB4BA02FDF1CEC590EEAC9189250
>  * - timestamp: 2020-01-12 18:38:55 UTC
>  * Verifying /var/db/repos/gentoo/.tmp-unverified-download-quarantine
> ...!!! Manifest v>
> Manifest mismatch for media-plugins/Manifest.gz
>   __size__: expected: 48363, have: 48349
>
>
> Inodes?  That's an interesting thought.  Not sure how I'd check that ...
> I'll redirect the output into a file next time.
>
> What would I look for in the top(1) status lines (the lines at the top
> before the process table?)?
>
> With emerge-webrsync do you mean webrsync or is there some additional
> facility

The df command will give you that info.  This is a example just replace
your device with the one I used.

df -i /dev/sdb1

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Thunderbird Datepicker

2020-01-14 Thread Jens Pelzetter
Hello everyone,

since some weeks ago I have a problem with Thunderbird/Lightning. In the
dialogs for tasks or events I can't input or change dialog. Clicking on
the buttons to show the calendar does nothing. If I try the edit an
using the keyboard the date it reset to the previous value once the date
input loses the focus.

Does anyone of you experience to same problem. I have this problem on
two different systems, one running Xfce and other one running KDE Plasma.

Best

Jens



Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread n952162

On 2020-01-14 11:10, Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 09:37:24 GMT n952162 wrote:

On 2020-01-14 09:44, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 09:04:13 +0100, n952162 wrote:

It sounds to me like the repository is broken - having ownership as root
seems to be slightly more entropy than portage and could have happened
as a unintended consequence of some uncarefully completed operation.

If the repository was broken, it would be affecting a lot more people
than just you.

Have you tried completely removing your portage tree and reinstating it
with webrsync?

This is a fresh install from a minimal cd image.  I'm starting out with
mkfs.  I've tried that 3 times, twice using a stage 3 from 2020/01/08
and once using a stage 3 from 2020/01/12.

Er...you aren't running out of disk space, are you (either physical space or
inodes)? Don't forget /tmp and /var/tmp. And what result did 'emerge --sync'
return? Specifically, did you see a 'Sync completed' message? Have you watched
/usr/bin/top status lines while syncing?

And have you actually tried emerge-webrsync?



'emerge --sync' gave me status 1 and before that, the error about the
manifest:


Number of files: 158,236 (reg: 131,524, dir: 26,712)
Number of created files: 158,235 (reg: 131,524, dir: 26,711)
Number of deleted files: 0
Number of regular files transferred: 131,524
Total file size: 208.96M bytes
Total transferred file size: 208.96M bytes
Literal data: 208.96M bytes
Matched data: 0 bytes
File list size: 3.90M
File list generation time: 0.001 seconds
File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds
Total bytes sent: 2.71M
Total bytes received: 218.79M

sent 2.71M bytes  received 218.79M bytes  56.02K bytes/sec
total size is 208.96M  speedup is 0.94
 * Manifest timestamp: 2020-01-12 18:38:55 UTC
 * Valid OpenPGP signature found:
 * - primary key: DCD05B71EAB94199527F44ACDB6B8C1F96D8BF6D
 * - subkey: E1D6ABB63BFCFB4BA02FDF1CEC590EEAC9189250
 * - timestamp: 2020-01-12 18:38:55 UTC
 * Verifying /var/db/repos/gentoo/.tmp-unverified-download-quarantine
...!!! Manifest v>
Manifest mismatch for media-plugins/Manifest.gz
  __size__: expected: 48363, have: 48349


Inodes?  That's an interesting thought.  Not sure how I'd check that ...
I'll redirect the output into a file next time.

What would I look for in the top(1) status lines (the lines at the top
before the process table?)?

With emerge-webrsync do you mean webrsync or is there some additional
facility?





Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 09:37:24 GMT n952162 wrote:
> On 2020-01-14 09:44, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 09:04:13 +0100, n952162 wrote:
> >> It sounds to me like the repository is broken - having ownership as root
> >> seems to be slightly more entropy than portage and could have happened
> >> as a unintended consequence of some uncarefully completed operation.
> > 
> > If the repository was broken, it would be affecting a lot more people
> > than just you.
> > 
> > Have you tried completely removing your portage tree and reinstating it
> > with webrsync?
> 
> This is a fresh install from a minimal cd image.  I'm starting out with
> mkfs.  I've tried that 3 times, twice using a stage 3 from 2020/01/08
> and once using a stage 3 from 2020/01/12.

Er...you aren't running out of disk space, are you (either physical space or 
inodes)? Don't forget /tmp and /var/tmp. And what result did 'emerge --sync' 
return? Specifically, did you see a 'Sync completed' message? Have you watched 
/usr/bin/top status lines while syncing?

And have you actually tried emerge-webrsync?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.






Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:37:24 +0100, n952162 wrote:

> > Have you tried completely removing your portage tree and reinstating
> > it with webrsync?  

> I've always used emerge --sync rather than webrsync because I always
> like to use the smallest hammer possible.  But if you say I should use
> webrsync rather than emerge --sync, I have no other hint.

It's certainly worth trying webrsync, if anything else, it's faster for a
full tree.

I prefer to use the largest hammer and let the tool do the work for me ;-)


-- 
Neil Bothwick

SCSI: System Can't See It


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Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread n952162

On 2020-01-14 09:44, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 09:04:13 +0100, n952162 wrote:


It sounds to me like the repository is broken - having ownership as root
seems to be slightly more entropy than portage and could have happened
as a unintended consequence of some uncarefully completed operation.

If the repository was broken, it would be affecting a lot more people
than just you.

Have you tried completely removing your portage tree and reinstating it
with webrsync?



This is a fresh install from a minimal cd image.  I'm starting out with
mkfs.  I've tried that 3 times, twice using a stage 3 from 2020/01/08
and once using a stage 3 from 2020/01/12.

Thus, in answer to your question, yes, I've always removed the portage
tree (and everything else).

I've always used emerge --sync rather than webrsync because I always
like to use the smallest hammer possible.  But if you say I should use
webrsync rather than emerge --sync, I have no other hint.






Is this the proper list to be on?

It's the Gentoo User list, which seems to fit.







Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 09:04:13 +0100, n952162 wrote:

> It sounds to me like the repository is broken - having ownership as root
> seems to be slightly more entropy than portage and could have happened
> as a unintended consequence of some uncarefully completed operation.

If the repository was broken, it would be affecting a lot more people
than just you.

Have you tried completely removing your portage tree and reinstating it
with webrsync?
 
> Is this the proper list to be on?

It's the Gentoo User list, which seems to fit.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?


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Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread n952162

On 2020-01-14 00:16, Mick wrote:

On Monday, 13 January 2020 22:40:14 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:15:31 +, Mick wrote:

According to my emerge --info output I have sandbox, usersandbox and
userpriv, all set.  The owner of my portage directory and all files
therein is root:root.  Should the ownership be portage:portage?  What
is the default?

As it happens, I switched a machine from rsync to git syncing last night,
so started with a new tree. Everything is root:root. That implies that
portage does not drop permissions for the sync, otherwise it wouldn't be
able to write to the tree. And ps confirms that with an rsync sync, rsync
is running as root.

Thanks Neil, this this leaves me mildly confused as to what the gentoo-default
ownership of portage tree is/should be.  Until I hear differently I'll leave
my old installations as portage:portage and the latest as root:root.


It sounds to me like the repository is broken - having ownership as root
seems to be slightly more entropy than portage and could have happened
as a unintended consequence of some uncarefully completed operation.

Is this the proper list to be on?




Re: [gentoo-user] .tmp-unverified-download-quarantine

2020-01-14 Thread n952162

On 2020-01-13 23:42, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 12:37:11 +0100, n952162 wrote:


The portage tree is sync'ed to the portage tree mirrors.  A newer fs
snapshot won't include the tree itself, but it will include the new
default fs locations for the portage directory.

Not sure what you mean ... you mean that the portage tree only comes
in with the emerge --sync?

A preliminary copy isn't in the stage3 tarball?

That's correct.



is this happening because I'm not using (the "optional") webrsync?

It happens because the stage 3 doesn't contain a tree. The handbook tells
you to run a sync after unpacking the stage 3 for that reason. webrsync
is just another way of syncing, one that is more efficient than rsync
when starting with an empty tree.



I mean, am I getting these manifest/verification errors because I
haven't used webrsync (apparently not).

Which leaves me in a deadlocked situation.  A fresh install, according
to the instructions, on new hardware, fails.  What should I do?  Does
anyone else have this problem?