Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel's new configs not used?
On 12/31/21 21:43, caveman رَجُلُ الْكَهْفِ 穴居人 wrote: On Friday, December 31st, 2021 at 6:52 PM, Jack wrote: You would still need to run genkernel again for that new version. so, no auto-migration for configs? i thought configs used to migrate automatically. basically i'm trying to avoid building some modules. When it comes to kernel nothing is fully automatic. Go though these commands: cd /usr/src rm linux eselect kernel list eselect kernel set # or ln -sfn linux-new_kernel-gentoo linux cd linux cp ../linux-old_kernel/.config . make oldconfig [just keep hitting enter] make menuconfig You are not done yet! 1.) At this point you must copy new kernel to your boot directory. 2.) emerge --ask -vq @module-rebuild rebuild 3.) must run to update grub menu entries eg.: # grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg 4.) What else did I miss? (somebody correct me).
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure "net-mail/mailutils" - non-answer / drive by comment
On 12/31/21 4:50 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Thanks for the hint. Yes, it works. I think it is the best solution for now. You're welcome. A simple .forward works in most cases. Though it may run into typical forwarding problems (SPF, DKIM, etc.). But you're probably fine with what you're doing. I had some problems deleting mail with "net-mail/mailutils" program. *nod* -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure "net-mail/mailutils" - non-answer / drive by comment
On 12/31/21 16:17, Grant Taylor wrote: On 12/31/21 3:58 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: How do you configure "~/.forward"? echo "u...@example.net" > ~/.forward That will cause most MTAs to forward message for your local user to the u...@example.net email address. Thanks for the hint. Yes, it works. I think it is the best solution for now. I had some problems deleting mail with "net-mail/mailutils" program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure "net-mail/mailutils" - non-answer / drive by comment
On 12/31/21 3:58 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: How do you configure "~/.forward"? echo "u...@example.net" > ~/.forward That will cause most MTAs to forward message for your local user to the u...@example.net email address. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
[gentoo-user] Re: configure "net-mail/mailutils" - non-answer / drive by comment
I don't have an answer for you, but I do have a drive by comment. On 12/31/21 3:09 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I'm trying to find a solution to read and delete local mail in: /var/mail/[user] as Thunderbird discontinued support for reading local mail directory (movemail). This type of need is why I have ~/.forward files on most systems so that email to my local account is forwarded to (one of) my primary email accounts that Thunderbird does check. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
[gentoo-user] configure "net-mail/mailutils"
Just installed: net-mail/mailutils typing "mail" (without mail address) should read local /var/mail/[user] but instead it goes in to a "send" mode. I'm trying to find a solution to read and delete local mail in: /var/mail/[user] as Thunderbird discontinued support for reading local mail directory (movemail).
Re: [gentoo-user] installing virtual machine under gentoo
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 10:12:05 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 9:40 AM Petric Frank wrote: > > > > Am Freitag, 31. Dezember 2021, 15:31:43 CET schrieb Yixun Lan: > > > On 07:33 Fri 31 Dec , John Covici wrote: > > > > Hi. I am looking for some guidance on installing virtual machines > > > > under gentoo. I have a 5.10.82 kernel and I would like to use kvm if > > > > possible to do this. I have seen lots of instructions for installing > > > > vms using virtualbox but not much else. I have a gentoo system with > > > > enough memory to run a vm or two and would like to use it as the host. > > > > > > > > I have downloaded xen to take a look at it as well. > > > > > > > > I hope this is not too vague, so please bare with me. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > > > > > I'd suggest to try qemu kvm + libvirt > > > > For a graphical GUI frontend for this you can use > > app-emulation/virt-manager. > > ++ > > This is just a front-end to libvirt and kvm, so you're building > entirely on solid technologies, and anything you set up with the GUI > can be edited or run or otherwise managed from the command line, and > vice-versa. It ends up resembling something like VirtualBox or the > old VMWare Workstation edition, but it is all FOSS and in-kernel so it > just is more reliable/etc. > > That said, I only use VMs situationally and at this point just about > everything I'm doing is in containers if it can be linux-based. Way > lighter all-around, even if I'm running a full OS in the container. I > personally prefer to run my containers with nspawn and virtual > ethernet, so each container gets its own IP via DHCP. > > Oh, and for kvm if you want to run your guests on your main LAN you'll > probably need to set up a bridge interface. Thanks everyone. I probably will have more questions, I will continue this thread later. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel's new configs not used?
On 12/31/21 11:28, caveman رَجُلُ الْكَهْفِ 穴居人 wrote: i thought to re-compile my kernel with some new options. so i did: sudo genkernel --menuconfig all new kernel came, and was used normally as one would expect across reboots. I suspect you omit certain details, such as running grub-mkconfig or otherwise updating your grub (or other bootloader) configuration prior to the first reboot. then i periodically update the system by: sudo emerge -avDuNt --quiet-build=y --keep-going=y @world problem is: when the gentoo-source kernel gets updated by emerge, it does not use my genkernel's new configs. questions: 1. What's going on? 2. How to fix it? Unless I'm missing something about what you are doing, simply emerging a new gentoo-kernel version does nothing except install the sources, it doesn't build the new kernel. You would still need to run genkernel again for that new version.
Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird setup local mail disappeared
On 12/31/21 10:18, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: After recent upgrade my "localmail" in Thunderbird disappeared. This is mail from apache, root etc, it goes to "/var/mail/username" In the past Thunderbird had a setting to add local mail, but I can not find it in new version. I think in the new version, there is a Thunderbird add-on "LocalFolders" But, I created manually new folder: local_mail and simlink mail from /var/mail/thelma to local_mail (in Thunderbird) When I restart Thunderbird, the local mail appears and I can delete it in Thunderbird But the mail is not being removed from file: /var/mail/thelma even though permission is correct: -rw--- 1 thelma mail 12K Dec 31 02:08 /var/mail/thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] installing virtual machine under gentoo
On 12/31/21 8:12 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: ++ +++ to KVM / libvirt / VirtManager (GUI) This is just a front-end to libvirt and kvm, so you're building entirely on solid technologies, and anything you set up with the GUI can be edited or run or otherwise managed from the command line, and vice-versa. Close, but not quite. Yes, anything that can be done in the GUI can be done at the CLI / config files. Though I have had some more essoteric things that had to be done at the CLI / config files that couldn't be done in the GUI. This usually has to do with more advanced things like iSCSI, Fibre Channel, ZFS pools / dataset per guest, etc. The vast majority of the things that someone starting with KVM will want to do can be done with the Virtual Machine Manager GUI. It ends up resembling something like VirtualBox or the old VMWare Workstation edition, but it is all FOSS and in-kernel so it just is more reliable/etc. Yep. There are only so many ways that you can present a concept; inventory of VMs, VM console, VM management. They start to look similar after a while. That said, I only use VMs situationally and at this point just about everything I'm doing is in containers if it can be linux-based. Way lighter all-around, even if I'm running a full OS in the container. I personally prefer to run my containers with nspawn and virtual ethernet, so each container gets its own IP via DHCP. The Virtual Machine Manager GUI can also administer / manage some aspects of containers. I would highly suggest giving Virtual Machine Manager GUI for KVM+libvert+qemu a try. It is probably the quintessential Linux virtualization method. Oh, and for kvm if you want to run your guests on your main LAN you'll probably need to set up a bridge interface. Yes, bridging is very nice and is my preferred way for most VM use cases. Though it might be a bit more than someone wants to tackle while getting their feet wet with virtualization. Especially if you're trying to share a single NIC for other aspects of the hosting system. It can all be done, but there is a lot of minutia (methods and configurations therein) that are easy to get lost in. I'd probably recommend a second NIC, even if it's an inexpensive USB NIC just for the virtualization. Doing that will avoid complexities that don't need to be dealt with /now/. -- Reduce the number of variables that you're working with at one time. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
[gentoo-user] Thunderbird setup local mail disappeared
After recent upgrade my "localmail" in Thunderbird disappeared. This is mail from apache, root etc, it goes to "/var/mail/username" In the past Thunderbird had a setting to add local mail, but I can not find it in new version. -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] installing virtual machine under gentoo
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 9:40 AM Petric Frank wrote: > > Am Freitag, 31. Dezember 2021, 15:31:43 CET schrieb Yixun Lan: > > On 07:33 Fri 31 Dec , John Covici wrote: > > > Hi. I am looking for some guidance on installing virtual machines > > > under gentoo. I have a 5.10.82 kernel and I would like to use kvm if > > > possible to do this. I have seen lots of instructions for installing > > > vms using virtualbox but not much else. I have a gentoo system with > > > enough memory to run a vm or two and would like to use it as the host. > > > > > > I have downloaded xen to take a look at it as well. > > > > > > I hope this is not too vague, so please bare with me. > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > > > I'd suggest to try qemu kvm + libvirt > > For a graphical GUI frontend for this you can use app-emulation/virt-manager. ++ This is just a front-end to libvirt and kvm, so you're building entirely on solid technologies, and anything you set up with the GUI can be edited or run or otherwise managed from the command line, and vice-versa. It ends up resembling something like VirtualBox or the old VMWare Workstation edition, but it is all FOSS and in-kernel so it just is more reliable/etc. That said, I only use VMs situationally and at this point just about everything I'm doing is in containers if it can be linux-based. Way lighter all-around, even if I'm running a full OS in the container. I personally prefer to run my containers with nspawn and virtual ethernet, so each container gets its own IP via DHCP. Oh, and for kvm if you want to run your guests on your main LAN you'll probably need to set up a bridge interface. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] installing virtual machine under gentoo
Am Freitag, 31. Dezember 2021, 15:31:43 CET schrieb Yixun Lan: > On 07:33 Fri 31 Dec , John Covici wrote: > > Hi. I am looking for some guidance on installing virtual machines > > under gentoo. I have a 5.10.82 kernel and I would like to use kvm if > > possible to do this. I have seen lots of instructions for installing > > vms using virtualbox but not much else. I have a gentoo system with > > enough memory to run a vm or two and would like to use it as the host. > > > > I have downloaded xen to take a look at it as well. > > > > I hope this is not too vague, so please bare with me. > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > I'd suggest to try qemu kvm + libvirt For a graphical GUI frontend for this you can use app-emulation/virt-manager. regards
Re: [gentoo-user] installing virtual machine under gentoo
On 07:33 Fri 31 Dec , John Covici wrote: > Hi. I am looking for some guidance on installing virtual machines > under gentoo. I have a 5.10.82 kernel and I would like to use kvm if > possible to do this. I have seen lots of instructions for installing > vms using virtualbox but not much else. I have a gentoo system with > enough memory to run a vm or two and would like to use it as the host. > > I have downloaded xen to take a look at it as well. > > I hope this is not too vague, so please bare with me. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I'd suggest to try qemu kvm + libvirt -- Yixun Lan (dlan) Gentoo Linux Developer GPG Key ID AABEFD55
[gentoo-user] installing virtual machine under gentoo
Hi. I am looking for some guidance on installing virtual machines under gentoo. I have a 5.10.82 kernel and I would like to use kvm if possible to do this. I have seen lots of instructions for installing vms using virtualbox but not much else. I have a gentoo system with enough memory to run a vm or two and would like to use it as the host. I have downloaded xen to take a look at it as well. I hope this is not too vague, so please bare with me. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
