[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On 05/11/2018 18:35, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 11:27 AM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 05/11/2018 17:30, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2018-11-04, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 03/11/2018 16:01, Alan Mackenzie wrote: The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users by a NEWS item, that I can see. Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D (--deep) when updating world. Which you should. What do you mean "catch this"? I always use -D, and the change broke my system. I mean that a USE flag change will trigger a rebuild of the package -D will not cause USE flag changes to trigger a rebuild of a package. You're thinking of --newuse in this particular case. Oops, yes. I meant -N (--newuse). Not -D. Got confused. I always upgrade using: emerge -auDN --changed-deps @world The "N" was the important flag here, not the "D".
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 11:27 AM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 05/11/2018 17:30, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2018-11-04, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 03/11/2018 16:01, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >>> The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version > >>> number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users > >>> by a NEWS item, that I can see. > >> > >> Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D > >> (--deep) when updating world. Which you should. > > > > What do you mean "catch this"? > > > > I always use -D, and the change broke my system. > > I mean that a USE flag change will trigger a rebuild of the package -D will not cause USE flag changes to trigger a rebuild of a package. You're thinking of --newuse in this particular case. I'm not sure if --changed-use would cause a rebuild if the previous flag was defaulted to enabled and not explicitly enabled (of course, if it were explicitly enabled you wouldn't have run into this issue). -- Rich
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On 05/11/2018 17:30, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2018-11-04, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 03/11/2018 16:01, Alan Mackenzie wrote: The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users by a NEWS item, that I can see. Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D (--deep) when updating world. Which you should. What do you mean "catch this"? I always use -D, and the change broke my system. I mean that a USE flag change will trigger a rebuild of the package, and the USE flag in question is shown by portage. So you'll know something has changed. If you went ahead and allowed it to rebuild, it would of course break xorg, but you'd know why since you've seen the USE flag change and know that the breakage most probably had something to do with that USE flag.
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On 2018-11-04, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 03/11/2018 16:01, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version >> number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users >> by a NEWS item, that I can see. > > Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D > (--deep) when updating world. Which you should. What do you mean "catch this"? I always use -D, and the change broke my system. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Why is everything made at of Lycra Spandex? gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On 2018-11-03, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Gentoo. > > HEADS UP!!! > > If you start your X server from the command line with, e.g. startx, you > now need to set the new(?) suid USE flag for the xorg-server package. Yep, I tripped over this yesterday, when all of a sudden I couldn't start X anymore. Thanks for the advanced notice on that one! > The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version > number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users > by a NEWS item, that I can see. Yea, that seems like a major foul-up to me. I had to log in as root so that I could start X, so that I could use google to try to figure out what went wrong. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! My LESLIE GORE record at is BROKEN ... gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On 11/04/18 02:22, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 03:11:45 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >>> The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version >>> number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify >>> users by a NEWS item, that I can see. >> >> Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D >> (--deep) when updating world. Which you should. > > It didn't on my MythTV frontend, which runs X as the mythtv user, as > xorg-server builds with -suid by default. > > It didn't on my MythTV frontend either, I had to manually add "suid" to package.use for it to start working again. Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 03:11:45 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version > > number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify > > users by a NEWS item, that I can see. > > Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D > (--deep) when updating world. Which you should. It didn't on my MythTV frontend, which runs X as the mythtv user, as xorg-server builds with -suid by default. -- Neil Bothwick Every time I jump on the bandwagon all its wheels fall off. pgpiRtcYXhYGN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On 03/11/2018 16:01, Alan Mackenzie wrote: The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users by a NEWS item, that I can see. Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D (--deep) when updating world. Which you should.
