[gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
On 2010-07-13, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Good. Life will be better now that you have xft support. :-) I'm looking forward to it. :) While messing around with this issue, I played with fontconfig a little bit (which didn't help, since I hadn't enabled xft support in emacs yet). However, I did manage to get some nicer looking fonts in Firefox. Now on some of the smaller sizes of some faces I have slight color fringing on some of the characters, so I guess I need to disable sub-pixel anti-aliasing. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! RHAPSODY in Glue! at gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:11:17 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-07-12, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: You don't need to have DejaVu, but I would advise getting either DejaVu or bitstream vera. I guess I can install more fonts, but I was hoping I could point emacs at one of the rougly 4000 I've already got. You can. I'm not sure why is that but it seems that your emacs is not able to find variable pitch font - About emacs screen and tooltips are using such font; normal edit buffers uses a fixed width font. To be more precise, they are using 'variable-pitch' face so you have to set font for that face. You can do that with 'M-x customize-face RET variable-pitch RET'. This displays a buffer where you can set the font. Note that 'customize-face' command offers you the face that is used to display a character on which the cursor is. So if you place the cursor on one of the empty boxes then 'M-x customize-face RET' should automatically offer you the 'variable-pitch' face. Regards, Robert -- Robert Cernansky E-mail: hslis...@zoznam.sk Jabber: h...@jabber.sk
[gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
On 2010-07-12, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: 2. The name you give Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 looks to be just the suffix did you mean something like -unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal You don't need to have DejaVu, but I would advise getting either DejaVu or bitstream vera. OK, I've figured out that I do have both dejavu and bitstream vera fonts installed (but they weren't on the font path). Now DejaVu Sans does work. The problem is that emacs wants a font with a family name of Sans Serif, and none of the installed fonts provide a family with that name. I changed Sans Serif to DejaVu Sans in /usr/share/emacs/23.1/lisp/faces.el, but emacs is till asking for a font with a family name of Sans Serif. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! My uncle Murray at conquered Egypt in 53 B.C. gmail.comAnd I can prove it too!!
[gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
On 2010-07-13, R?bert ?er?ansk? hslis...@zoznam.sk wrote: You can. I'm not sure why is that but it seems that your emacs is not able to find variable pitch font - About emacs screen and tooltips are using such font; normal edit buffers uses a fixed width font. To be more precise, they are using 'variable-pitch' face so you have to set font for that face. You can do that with 'M-x customize-face RET variable-pitch RET'. This displays a buffer where you can set the font. That's the trick: changing the family from Sans Serif to DejaVu Sans, save the settings, restart emacs, and now the about text is rendered. That particular font is rather ugly and blurry, but at least it's rendering. Note that 'customize-face' command offers you the face that is used to display a character on which the cursor is. So if you place the cursor on one of the empty boxes then 'M-x customize-face RET' should automatically offer you the 'variable-pitch' face. Yup. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Psychoanalysis?? at I thought this was a nude gmail.comrap session!!!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: On 2010-07-12, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: 2. The name you give Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 looks to be just the suffix did you mean something like -unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal You don't need to have DejaVu, but I would advise getting either DejaVu or bitstream vera. OK, I've figured out that I do have both dejavu and bitstream vera fonts installed (but they weren't on the font path). Now DejaVu Sans does work. The problem is that emacs wants a font with a family name of Sans Serif, and none of the installed fonts provide a family with that name. That is funny since I don't do anything and it just works (DejaVu is a family I think). Indeed my default font is DejaVu Sans Mono. The last u above gives the output below for C-U C-x = Did you build emacs with xft support? allan character: u (117, #o165, #x75) preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) code point: 0x75 syntax: wwhich means: word category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman buffer code: #x75 file code: #x75 (encoded by coding system utf-8-emacs) display: by this font (glyph code) xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-bold-normal-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x58) Character code properties: customize what to show name: LATIN SMALL LETTER U general-category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) There is an overlay here: From 1234 to 1240 evaporatet face flyspell-duplicate flyspell-overlay t help-echomouse-2: correct word at point keymap [Show] mouse-face highlight There are text properties here: fontifiedt
[gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
On 2010-07-13, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: 2. The name you give Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 looks to be just the suffix did you mean something like -unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal You don't need to have DejaVu, but I would advise getting either DejaVu or bitstream vera. OK, I've figured out that I do have both dejavu and bitstream vera fonts installed (but they weren't on the font path). Now DejaVu Sans does work. The problem is that emacs wants a font with a family name of Sans Serif, and none of the installed fonts provide a family with that name. That is funny since I don't do anything and it just works (DejaVu is a family I think). Indeed my default font is DejaVu Sans Mono. The last u above gives the output below for C-U C-x = Did you build emacs with xft support? No. I did rebuild emacs with xft support, but I had already manually done the customize-face for variable-pitch, so I don't know if xft support would have fixed the problem or not (I imagine it probably would have, since that's what the lisp code in faces.el seems to imply). -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Why are these athletic at shoe salesmen following gmail.comme??
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: On 2010-07-13, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: 2. The name you give Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 looks to be just the suffix did you mean something like -unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal You don't need to have DejaVu, but I would advise getting either DejaVu or bitstream vera. OK, I've figured out that I do have both dejavu and bitstream vera fonts installed (but they weren't on the font path). Now DejaVu Sans does work. The problem is that emacs wants a font with a family name of Sans Serif, and none of the installed fonts provide a family with that name. That is funny since I don't do anything and it just works (DejaVu is a family I think). Indeed my default font is DejaVu Sans Mono. The last u above gives the output below for C-U C-x = Did you build emacs with xft support? No. I did rebuild emacs with xft support, but I had already manually done the customize-face for variable-pitch, so I don't know if xft support would have fixed the problem or not (I imagine it probably would have, since that's what the lisp code in faces.el seems to imply). Good. Life will be better now that you have xft support. :-) allan
[gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
On 2010-07-09, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: Recently emacs (running in X window mode) seems to have developed a font problem. Perhaps it is a font issue. Yes, I think it probably is. I just did emacs -q (-Q eliminates the splash screen) and then did C-u C-x = while the cursor was on the b in Learn basic keystroke commands. The help buffer includes display: by this font (glyph code) xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x45) What does C-u C-x = give on your system character: b (98, #o142, #x62) preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) code point: 0x62 syntax: wwhich means: word category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman buffer code: #x62 file code: #x62 (encoded by coding system nil) display: no font available and do you have that font available? No, I don't seem to have Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 availble according to xfontsel. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! My polyvinyl cowboy at wallet was made in Hong gmail.comKong by Montgomery Clift!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: On 2010-07-09, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: Recently emacs (running in X window mode) seems to have developed a font problem. Perhaps it is a font issue. Yes, I think it probably is. I just did emacs -q (-Q eliminates the splash screen) and then did C-u C-x = while the cursor was on the b in Learn basic keystroke commands. The help buffer includes display: by this font (glyph code) xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x45) What does C-u C-x = give on your system character: b (98, #o142, #x62) preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) code point: 0x62 syntax: w which means: word category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman buffer code: #x62 file code: #x62 (encoded by coding system nil) display: no font available and do you have that font available? No, I don't seem to have Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 availble according to xfontsel. Three points 1. Did you build emacs with xft support? 2. The name you give Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 looks to be just the suffix did you mean something like -unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal You don't need to have DejaVu, but I would advise getting either DejaVu or bitstream vera. 3. Your output and mine differ in one point (before the font issue) You have coding system nil. I have coding system utf-8-unix. Unfortunately I know very little about coding systems but do wonder why ours are different since we both did emacs -q. Unfortunately if we do emacs -Q to eliminate some system customization, there is no splash screen. The description of UTF-8 says it is for unicode. Perhaps your nil coding system has trouble with unicode, but I am afraid this has gotten outside my expertise. sorry for not being more helpful. allan
[gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
On 2010-07-12, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: What does C-u C-x = give on your system character: b (98, #o142, #x62) preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) code point: 0x62 syntax: w which means: word category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman buffer code: #x62 file code: #x62 (encoded by coding system nil) display: no font available and do you have that font available? No, I don't seem to have Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 availble according to xfontsel. Three points 1. Did you build emacs with xft support? 2. The name you give Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 looks to be just the suffix did you mean something like -unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal Oops -- cut/paste error. I don't have that font using the whole pattern either. You don't need to have DejaVu, but I would advise getting either DejaVu or bitstream vera. I guess I can install more fonts, but I was hoping I could point emacs at one of the rougly 4000 I've already got. 3. Your output and mine differ in one point (before the font issue) You have coding system nil. I have coding system utf-8-unix. Unfortunately I know very little about coding systems but do wonder why ours are different since we both did emacs -q. Unfortunately if we do emacs -Q to eliminate some system customization, there is no splash screen. The description of UTF-8 says it is for unicode. Perhaps your nil coding system has trouble with unicode, but I am afraid this has gotten outside my expertise. I do have one computer where emacs does find a font for the about screen, so I guess it's a matter of comparing the two. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Will it improve my at CASH FLOW? gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
On 2010-07-08, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: Recently emacs (running in X window mode) seems to have developed a font problem. There are two cases where text displays as a mixture of filled and unfilled rectangles: 1) When the mouse pointer hovers over certain things a balloon pops up containing nothing but black filled rectangles. 2) When you select About Emacs from the Help menu, the logo renders properly at the top of the screen, but the rest is blocks and rectangles: http://www.panix.com/~grante/emacsabout.png Normal editing is fine. Google hasn't found anything except discussion of problems with a misssing default font (the one used during editing), and I don't have any problems with that. Any ideas? Does this happen when you invoke emacs -Q? Yes. In the about emacs screen, and all of the balloons that pop up when the mouse hovers over various things, the text is rendered as blocks/rectangles. The menus, status line, and acutal editing windows are all fine. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! ONE LIFE TO LIVE for at ALL MY CHILDREN in ANOTHER gmail.comWORLD all THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emacs font problem
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: On 2010-07-08, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: Recently emacs (running in X window mode) seems to have developed a font problem. There are two cases where text displays as a mixture of filled and unfilled rectangles: 1) When the mouse pointer hovers over certain things a balloon pops up containing nothing but black filled rectangles. 2) When you select About Emacs from the Help menu, the logo renders properly at the top of the screen, but the rest is blocks and rectangles: http://www.panix.com/~grante/emacsabout.png Normal editing is fine. Google hasn't found anything except discussion of problems with a misssing default font (the one used during editing), and I don't have any problems with that. Any ideas? Does this happen when you invoke emacs -Q? Yes. In the about emacs screen, and all of the balloons that pop up when the mouse hovers over various things, the text is rendered as blocks/rectangles. The menus, status line, and acutal editing windows are all fine. Perhaps it is a font issue. I just did emacs -q (-Q eliminates the splash screen) and then did C-u C-x = while the cursor was on the b in Learn basic keystroke commands. The help buffer includes display: by this font (glyph code) xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-75-75-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x45) What does C-u C-x = give on your system and do you have that font available? These are just guesses; I have not experience any such problem myself. allan
