Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer and/or X optimization
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 06:13:27AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote Before I send off my dead machine to the re-cycling centre, would a Radeon 7000 be better supported? I can pull that card from the dead machine and try it out. you should definitely try it. The elderly radeon cards are more or less well supported. I don't had ATi cards since I sold my Xpert2000 some years ago, BUT when I remember right the articles I read, the Radeon7000 (up to 9200, but ATI users can say more about this) should be very well supported by the dri/gatos drivers. No luck. I don't know how they managed to do it, but I'd can't see any way of getting the video card out without at least taking off the cpu cooler, if not the actual cpu itself. Another thing that hadn't occured to me before is that the dead machine (ATI Radeon 700) and my 6-year-old emergency backup PIII (ATI Rage Pro, actually a Mach64 chip) are both AGP cards, but the Radeon X300 is PCI-Express, so the slots are probably different. Strange, but true. I can get the Radeon 7000 into my 6-year-old Dell's AGP slot, but I can't get the old Rage Pro into the newer dead machine's AGP slot, not that it matters. Oh well, at least my 6-year-old Dell emergency backup has now been upgraded from an 8 megabyte RagePro to a 32 megabyte Radeon 7000. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer and/or X optimization
On Saturday 10 September 2005 04:27, Walter Dnes wrote: Radeon X300 is PCI-Express, so the slots are probably different. Strange, but true. I can get the Radeon 7000 into my 6-year-old Dell's AGP slot, but I can't get the old Rage Pro into the newer dead machine's AGP slot, not that it matters. Oh well, at least my 6-year-old Dell emergency backup has now been upgraded from an 8 megabyte RagePro to a 32 megabyte Radeon 7000. that is because of the different AGP standards (1,2,3.0) which have different voltages (3v,1,5v,0,8v) and different 'identifaction' keys, which prevent inserting a card into a slot, that could damage her with overvoltages and vice versa. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer and/or X optimization
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:15:51AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote does xine also have a speed problem? If yes: I don't have xine loaded. I've had problems building it in the past. mplayer has been trouble-free. could you please post xorg.conf/Xorg.0.log? Maybe they contain somethin obvious... To avoid cluttering up the list, I've posted them on my webpage; see http://www.waltdnes.org/xorg.conf.txt http://www.waltdnes.org/Xorg.0.log.txt According to the box, the card is a PowerColor X300 SE, with PCI Express and full DirectX 9 support. One thing I notice is at the very end of xorg.conf... # Section DRI #Mode 0666 # EndSection According to man radeon Option BusType string Used to replace previous ForcePCIMode option. Should only be used when driver's bus detection is incorrect or you want to force a AGP card to PCI mode. Should NEVER force a PCI card to AGP bus. PCI-- PCI bus AGP-- AGP bus PCIE -- PCI Express (falls back to PCI at present) (used only when DRI is enabled) The default is auto detect. I uncommented the 3 lines and in the video card section I added... Option BusType PCIE but it looks like it's not enabled. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer and/or X optimization
On Wednesday 07 September 2005 12:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:15:51AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote does xine also have a speed problem? If yes: I don't have xine loaded. I've had problems building it in the past. mplayer has been trouble-free. could you please post xorg.conf/Xorg.0.log? Maybe they contain somethin obvious... To avoid cluttering up the list, I've posted them on my webpage; see http://www.waltdnes.org/xorg.conf.txt http://www.waltdnes.org/Xorg.0.log.txt According to the box, the card is a PowerColor X300 SE, with PCI Express and full DirectX 9 support. One thing I notice is at the very end of xorg.conf... # Section DRI #Mode 0666 # EndSection According to man radeon Option BusType string Used to replace previous ForcePCIMode option. Should only be used when driver's bus detection is incorrect or you want to force a AGP card to PCI mode. Should NEVER force a PCI card to AGP bus. PCI-- PCI bus AGP-- AGP bus PCIE -- PCI Express (falls back to PCI at present) (used only when DRI is enabled) The default is auto detect. I uncommented the 3 lines and in the video card section I added... Option BusType PCIE but it looks like it's not enabled. you have to load dri in the modules section first (and glx maybe too). BUT from your log: your card is to new for dri/render, so it falls back to some.. I don't know-mode ;) but you can try to load them. Change this: # This loads the GLX module #Load glx # This loads the DRI module #Load dri to this: # This loads the GLX module Load glx # This loads the DRI module Load dri but I am pretty sure, that it will not help much. Hm - xv and ATI were never good friends... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer and/or X optimization
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 06:47:38PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote you have to load dri in the modules section first (and glx maybe too). BUT from your log: your card is to new for dri/render, so it falls back to some.. I don't know-mode ;) The log file now says... (**) RADEON(0): PCI Express not supported yet, using PCI mode So much for that idea. The Gatos project page on Sourceforge says they've recently received docs and sample hardware from ATI, and work is under way to support this card. But nothing released yet. Before I send off my dead machine to the re-cycling centre, would a Radeon 7000 be better supported? I can pull that card from the dead machine and try it out. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer and/or X optimization
On Thursday 08 September 2005 05:58, Walter Dnes wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 06:47:38PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote you have to load dri in the modules section first (and glx maybe too). BUT from your log: your card is to new for dri/render, so it falls back to some.. I don't know-mode ;) The log file now says... (**) RADEON(0): PCI Express not supported yet, using PCI mode So much for that idea. The Gatos project page on Sourceforge says they've recently received docs and sample hardware from ATI, and work is under way to support this card. But nothing released yet. Before I send off my dead machine to the re-cycling centre, would a Radeon 7000 be better supported? I can pull that card from the dead machine and try it out. you should definitely try it. The elderly radeon cards are more or less well supported. I don't had ATi cards since I sold my Xpert2000 some years ago, BUT when I remember right the articles I read, the Radeon7000 (up to 9200, but ATI users can say more about this) should be very well supported by the dri/gatos drivers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mplayer and/or X optimization
I'm running an AMD64 3000+ with 2 gigs of ram and an ATI Radeon X300. It's dropping frames on internet TV sites where it should easily be able to keep up. I've built mplayer with mmx/mmxext/3dnow/3dnowext/sse/sse2 so I don't see any room for speedup there. I can get -vo sdl and -vo xv to work, but not -vo radeon_vid. As a matter of fact, I can't find any vidix modules at all. They're simply not being built. Here's the output of emerge -pv mplayer. [ebuild R ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre7-r1 -3dfx +3dnow +3dnowext +X +aac -aalib +alsa (-altivec) -arts -bidi -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection +custom-cflags -debug +dga -directfb +divx4linux -doc -dts -dv -dvb +dvd +dvdread -edl +encode -esd -fbcon -ggi +gif -gtk +i8x0 -ipv6 -jack -joystick +jpeg -libcaca -lirc -live -lzo -mad -matroska -matrox +mmx +mmxext -mythtv -nas -nls -nvidia +opengl -oss +png +real -rtc -samba +sdl +sse +sse2 -svga -tga +theora +truetype -v4l -v4l2 +vorbis +win32codecs -xanim -xinerama -xmms +xv -xvid -xvmc 7,397 kB For some reason the video card shows up twice in hardware detection. Does this have any affect on X Window speed? Here's output from cat /proc/pci... VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] (rev 0). IRQ 5. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe000 [0xe7ff]. I/O at 0x9000 [0x90ff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe900 [0xe900]. Bus 5, device 0, function 1: Display controller: PCI device 1002:5b70 (ATI Technologies Inc) (rev 0). Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe901 [0xe901]. and here's what lspci -v shows... :05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 1b60 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5 Memory at e000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] I/O ports at 9000 [size=256] Memory at e900 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] #10 [0001] Capabilities: [80] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- :05:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE] Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 1b61 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Memory at e901 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] #10 [0001] -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer and/or X optimization
Hi, On Wednesday 07 September 2005 03:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running an AMD64 3000+ with 2 gigs of ram and an ATI Radeon X300. It's dropping frames on internet TV sites where it should easily be able to keep up. I've built mplayer with mmx/mmxext/3dnow/3dnowext/sse/sse2 so I don't see any room for speedup there. I can get -vo sdl and -vo xv to work, but not -vo radeon_vid. As a matter of fact, I can't find any vidix modules at all. They're simply not being built. Here's the output of emerge -pv mplayer. does xine also have a speed problem? If yes: could you please post xorg.conf/Xorg.0.log? Maybe they contain somethin obvious... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
