Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
| My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes | and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there | is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How | do you troubleshoot something like this? | | - Grant | | Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. +1 to that. I had a laptop that was doing the exact same thing. I installed lm_sensors and saw that at rest my temp was generally 40C (that's with powersave enabled). When I compiled the temp would go up to 75C...I think the highest I ever got it was 77C.* A /little/ over 40 is too hot... *For the Americans (like me) the easy way for C - F is double it, subtract 10% and add 32. So the temps would be 104F, 167F and 171F. The laptop has stopped freezing now. Not sure what was going on. Thanks a lot for all the help and I'll refer back if I need to. - Grant Do you recall what you did? Recompile a package? Blow out some dust bunnies? Cross your toes? I believe it stopped freezing after it's periodic ext3 filesystem check after a reboot, but it didn't report any type of error after the check. Another possibility was upgrading to xscreensaver-5.05 from 5.04. Overall I'm puzzled but happy. - Grant Dale -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
Grant wrote: Dale said this part. o_O Do you recall what you did? Recompile a package? Blow out some dust bunnies? Cross your toes? I believe it stopped freezing after it's periodic ext3 filesystem check after a reboot, but it didn't report any type of error after the check. Another possibility was upgrading to xscreensaver-5.05 from 5.04. Overall I'm puzzled but happy. - Grant Dale Sounds good. At least if someone else runs into this and takes the time to search, they can find something to check/try before posting. Glad it is working for ya tho. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
| My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes | and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there | is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How | do you troubleshoot something like this? | | - Grant | | Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. +1 to that. I had a laptop that was doing the exact same thing. I installed lm_sensors and saw that at rest my temp was generally 40C (that's with powersave enabled). When I compiled the temp would go up to 75C...I think the highest I ever got it was 77C.* A /little/ over 40 is too hot... *For the Americans (like me) the easy way for C - F is double it, subtract 10% and add 32. So the temps would be 104F, 167F and 171F. The laptop has stopped freezing now. Not sure what was going on. Thanks a lot for all the help and I'll refer back if I need to. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
Grant wrote: | My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes | and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there | is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How | do you troubleshoot something like this? | | - Grant | | Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. +1 to that. I had a laptop that was doing the exact same thing. I installed lm_sensors and saw that at rest my temp was generally 40C (that's with powersave enabled). When I compiled the temp would go up to 75C...I think the highest I ever got it was 77C.* A /little/ over 40 is too hot... *For the Americans (like me) the easy way for C - F is double it, subtract 10% and add 32. So the temps would be 104F, 167F and 171F. The laptop has stopped freezing now. Not sure what was going on. Thanks a lot for all the help and I'll refer back if I need to. - Grant Do you recall what you did? Recompile a package? Blow out some dust bunnies? Cross your toes? Just curious. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph wrote: | On 03/31/08 09:26, Grant wrote: | My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes | and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there | is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How | do you troubleshoot something like this? | | - Grant | | Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. +1 to that. I had a laptop that was doing the exact same thing. I installed lm_sensors and saw that at rest my temp was generally 40C (that's with powersave enabled). When I compiled the temp would go up to 75C...I think the highest I ever got it was 77C.* A /little/ over 40 is too hot... *For the Americans (like me) the easy way for C - F is double it, subtract 10% and add 32. So the temps would be 104F, 167F and 171F. - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8phDdheOldgSlQgRAuKcAKDcYnv7PuepF5no3Z74on/6wYUfIACgvWXz ETwrpz+31+rq0tB4UqSWCMY= =0div -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? - Grant It's a bit hard with a laptop but there are some things you can do. 1) Does it freeze under no load? Just boot it and wait. don't log in, etc. 2) Does it only boot once logged in? What's running? 3) From another machine can you ssh in and then watch from there? Is the laptop dead or is it just not responding to its own keyboard? If it's still alive what's in the log files? Probably there are lots more things to do but these are the sort of things I'd try first. Good luck, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
2008/3/31, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Which logs didi you check? For sure you will get something there. Do you have syslog-ng running or something similar? laptop? arch? Di you tried to run a live cd, for example?
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 09:26:34AM -0700, Grant wrote: My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? The first thing to determine is that whether it is freezing of the user interface or the underlying kernel. For desktops I often compile the kernel with the option that it flashes the keyboard LEDs when it is panicking, so I can see at a glance that the omelette has hit the fan. So: a) This freezing behaviour, does it manifest only in X, or does it happen if you boot into a non-graphical environment? b) If both, is it possible to have your laptop on a private network with ssh/telnet listening? If so, please see if after the freezing behaviour, you can still telnet/ssh into the laptop? If you can, can you run top from the terminal and see if anything is just taking up 100% resource? Other things to check: c) could your laptop be overheating? d) is this a new phenomenon or something that has happened consistently since the dawn of time? i.e. did you update any software recently or is this something that just happened right out of the box with your spanking new hardware? e) If this is a spanking new machine, and if it comes with one of the bastard OSes pre-installed, does this also happen running that operating system? (Maybe you are due a refund?) HTH, W -- Willie W. Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 Fine Hall, Department of Mathematics, Princeton University, Princeton A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
Grant wrote: My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? There's a decent troubleshooting HOWTO on the wiki for stability. I'm not where I had it bookmarked but try to locate the thing and if you can't I'll send back the link. -- Steven Lembark +1 888 359 3508 Workhorse Computing 85-09 90th St [EMAIL PROTECTED] Woodhaven, NY 11421 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:36:40PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: The first thing to determine is that whether it is freezing of the user interface or the underlying kernel. For desktops I often compile the kernel with the option that it flashes the keyboard LEDs when it is panicking, so I can see at a glance that the omelette has hit the fan. On second thought, I am not sure if the keyboard flashing is optional... every desktop that I've come across that kernel panic'd did flash the LEDs, that and the fact the last time I built my desktop kernel is over a year ago makes me a non-authority on kernel options. W -- Willie W. Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 Fine Hall, Department of Mathematics, Princeton University, Princeton A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
On 03/31/08 09:26, Grant wrote: My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? - Grant Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. -- #Joseph GPG KeyID: ED0E1FB7 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
Willie Wong wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:36:40PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: The first thing to determine is that whether it is freezing of the user interface or the underlying kernel. For desktops I often compile the kernel with the option that it flashes the keyboard LEDs when it is panicking, so I can see at a glance that the omelette has hit the fan. On second thought, I am not sure if the keyboard flashing is optional... every desktop that I've come across that kernel panic'd did flash the LEDs, that and the fact the last time I built my desktop kernel is over a year ago makes me a non-authority on kernel options. W I would like to know where this is to if it is a option. Never heard of this before. Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:31:50 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: 1) Does it freeze under no load? Just boot it and wait. don't log in, etc. I'd also try booting from a Knoppix CD to see if it still happens. It is doesn't, the problem is in software, not hardware. Running memtest86 wouldn't be a bad idea either. -- Neil Bothwick Do not merely believe in miracles; rely on them. * Finagle signature.asc Description: PGP signature
