Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-03 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: I've been wondering for a while why no alternative has been proposed. HTML was originally considered poor because it wasted bandwidth, HTML messages being *at least* twice the size of the plain text, but often several times as large. I wonder if console-based mail-readers were

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-03 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stroller wrote: I've been wondering for a while why no alternative has been proposed. HTML was originally considered poor because it wasted bandwidth, HTML messages being *at least* twice the size of the plain text, but often

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-03 Thread Dale
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: In general, html email is mostly a solution in search of a problem, and it ends up causing trouble and being overall worse than the simple, efficient, easy, working, universally adopted technology that preceded it. Besides all the problems already listed in

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 12:51:19 Dale wrote: As for the guy who suggested a form of sanitized HTML for email, maybe you would like enriched text http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_text   Someone who put it better than I could.  I use HTML elsewhere but out of respect for

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-03 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 03 December 2008 12:51:19 Dale wrote: As for the guy who suggested a form of sanitized HTML for email, maybe you would like enriched text http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_text Someone who put it better than I could. I use HTML elsewhere

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 13:10:26 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 03 December 2008 12:51:19 Dale wrote: As for the guy who suggested a form of sanitized HTML for email, maybe you would like enriched text http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_text Someone who put

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-03 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 03 December 2008 13:10:26 Dale wrote: Mine should be text. I have Seamonkey set to send text only to anything gentoo.org or kde.org. I can't check myself since gmail doesn't send me a copy back. Is gmail overriding my local setting? Tell me it ain't

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 14:04:41 Dale wrote: Since I am on dial-up, I hate the ones that have HUGE video clips attached.  I have had to sign in via webmail and just delete the email without ever even seeing it.  Don't you love it?  Maybe I shouldn't mention that since it may give someone

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/12/2 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: May I ask why many people on MLs use to write links as footnotes instead that inside the mail text? I suspect it is some netiquette issue, but I can't find info on that and I find it mildly confusing. Because

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/12/2 Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Because http://some-vvverrryy-long-link/some-page.html

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:33:32 +0100, brullo nulla wrote: Not to me. I am accustomed to see links inside of text in webpages, so there is nothing strange in what you posted. I rarely see URLs inside the text of web pages, they are generally hyperlinked to a piece of the text. Email is more like

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread Dale
brullo nulla wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/2 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: May I ask why many people on MLs use to write links as footnotes instead that inside the mail text? I suspect it is some netiquette issue, but I can't

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread Dale
Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2008/12/2 Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Because

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread b.n.
Daniel Pielmeier ha scritto: Unfortunately there is no ebuild for fatsort [1] only a maintainer wanted bug [2]. There is even a python gui [3], but I don't know if there is really a need for a gui though. I think I will update the ebuild (which does not look that complicated and needs some

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread brullo nulla
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/2 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: May I ask why many people on MLs use to write links as footnotes instead that inside the mail text? I suspect it is some netiquette issue, but I can't find info on that and I find it

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread brullo nulla
This reminds me of the text/html debate. If you put links in the body and some guru that has the answer doesn't like links in the body, they may not read your post and you could be left without a answer for a while longer. Or worse yet, if it is some software that is rarely used, they may

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread Stroller
On 2 Dec 2008, at 11:33, brullo nulla wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/2 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: May I ask why many people on MLs use to write links as footnotes instead that inside the mail text? I suspect it is some netiquette

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread Dale
brullo nulla wrote: I send text myself too usually (don't know when I'm using gmail from the web like now). However if I receive html mail, my mail client is set up to make it look like it's only text, so I don't really see the difference. Well apparently some people here use a client

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread Stroller
On 2 Dec 2008, at 12:25, Dale wrote: ... This reminds me of the text/html debate. If you put links in the body and some guru that has the answer doesn't like links in the body, they may not read your post and you could be left without a answer for a while longer. Or worse yet, if it is some

Re: [gentoo-user][ot] mail links as footnotes

2008-12-02 Thread b.n.
Stroller ha scritto: It's not merely aesthetic, because a URL as long as the one above may not be clickable in the mail client. TinyURL should alleviate this problem, as long as the sender's client doesn't break lines in some stupid place. Right. I'll use direct links inline when I'm