Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday 15 November 2010 18:07:27 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:10 on Monday 15 November 2010, J. Roeleveld did opine thusly: snipped How is this different from: 1) take a backup 2) check for bad sectors (badblocks) 3) restore backup This is also

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 03:33:19 Dale wrote: Adam Carter wrote: One post mentioned that this needs to be reinstalled, I AGREE. Re installation may be *correct*, but sometimes its impractical. I would 1. Pull the drive, and connect it to another fully patched, fully security

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread Alex Schuster
J. Roeleveld writes: On Tuesday 16 November 2010 03:33:19 Dale wrote: That's not doable here tho. This is a Linux only house. My nieces puter is the only puter in the house with windoze on it and it is just visiting. It does have NTFS so I am sort of chicken to hook it up to my Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread Alex Schuster
J. Roeleveld writes: On Tuesday 16 November 2010 03:33:19 Dale wrote: That's not doable here tho. This is a Linux only house. My nieces puter is the only puter in the house with windoze on it and it is just visiting. It does have NTFS so I am sort of chicken to hook it up to my Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 10:53:28 Alex Schuster wrote: J. Roeleveld writes: On Tuesday 16 November 2010 03:33:19 Dale wrote: That's not doable here tho. This is a Linux only house. My nieces puter is the only puter in the house with windoze on it and it is just visiting. It does

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Stroller
On 15/11/2010, at 3:56am, Dale wrote: ... I have a niece that brought me her puter. It's a HP with windoze XP on it. I want to defrag the hard drive but the one that comes with windoze won't work. Is there a free defrag tool that is safe on windoze? I would be more concerned why defrag

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 15/11/2010, at 3:56am, Dale wrote: ... I have a niece that brought me her puter. It's a HP with windoze XP on it. I want to defrag the hard drive but the one that comes with windoze won't work. Is there a free defrag tool that is safe on windoze? I would be

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday 15 November 2010 10:32:00 Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 15/11/2010, at 3:56am, Dale wrote: ... snipped I am thinking like you on the reason it is not working. It was brought to me because it was not running as fast as it used to. First thing I noticed was that AVG hasn't

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 15 November 2010 09:46:38 J. Roeleveld wrote: I ... only use MS Windows when I have no choice (eg. using MS Windows only software/applications for work). The one use I have for it nowadays is to run IE to check how it displays my website. I found (was told of) a utility that

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday 15 November 2010 12:01:49 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 15 November 2010 09:46:38 J. Roeleveld wrote: I ... only use MS Windows when I have no choice (eg. using MS Windows only software/applications for work). The one use I have for it nowadays is to run IE to check how it

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Mick
On 15 November 2010 09:46, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: My guess for the error: There is insufficient diskspace to defragment this drive Solution: Copy documents over onto an external drive Then delete the copied documents from the harddrive and then run defrag. It would be easier

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Jacob Todd
You might want to run spinrite on the drive if you have/can find a copy of it. On Nov 15, 2010 4:33 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Stroller wrote: On 15/11/2010, at 3:56am, Dale wrote: ... I have a niece that brought me her puter. It's a HP with windoze XP on it. I want to defrag the

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Mick
On 15 November 2010 13:13, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to run spinrite on the drive if you have/can find a copy of it. Why? -- Regards, Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Jacob Todd
Sounds like something is wrong with te drive, and spinrite.can probably fix it. On Nov 15, 2010 9:16 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 November 2010 13:13, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to run spinrite on the drive if you have/can find a copy of it. Why?

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday 15 November 2010 15:50:37 Jacob Todd wrote: Sounds like something is wrong with te drive, and spinrite.can probably fix it. I don't see what Spinrite can do to help with defragging a harddrive for MS Windows? I like the bit where it explains how it prevents a disk crash: It first

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com I have a niece that brought me her puter. It's a HP with windoze XP on it. I want to defrag the hard drive but the one that comes with windoze won't work. Is there a free defrag tool that is safe on windoze? I ask because I

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Mick
On 15 November 2010 14:50, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like something is wrong with te drive, and spinrite.can probably fix it. If the drive had badblocks it would probably launch chkdsk or bring up similar errors about a corrupt fs. As I said, without a clear and succinct

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 15.11.2010 04:56, schrieb Dale: Hi, I have a niece that brought me her puter. It's a HP with windoze XP on it. I want to defrag the hard drive but the one that comes with windoze won't work. Is there a free defrag tool that is safe on windoze? I ask because I don't want to install

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:10 on Monday 15 November 2010, J. Roeleveld did opine thusly: On Monday 15 November 2010 15:50:37 Jacob Todd wrote: Sounds like something is wrong with te drive, and spinrite.can probably fix it. I don't see what Spinrite can do to help with defragging

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 11/15/2010 11:05 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: It's LGPL licensed. The GUI is a bit ugly but it has a lot of functionality and can handle cases in which the Windows defragger doesn't work. That mostly happens when the disk is nearly full. Since we're *way* off topic as it is: mydefrag isn't

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org On 11/15/2010 11:05 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: It's LGPL licensed. The GUI is a bit ugly but it has a lot of functionality and can handle cases in which the Windows defragger doesn't work. That mostly happens when the

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:43 on Monday 15 November 2010, Mike Edenfield did opine thusly: On 11/15/2010 11:05 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: It's LGPL licensed. The GUI is a bit ugly but it has a lot of functionality and can handle cases in which the Windows defragger doesn't work.

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 19:43 on Monday 15 November 2010, Mike Edenfield did opine thusly: On 11/15/2010 11:05 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: It's LGPL licensed. The GUI is a bit ugly but it has a lot of functionality and can handle cases in which the

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:01 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Dale did opine thusly: OK. I took a nap and it seems everyone on the list wanted to chime in. lol This is one reason I posted here. I knew I would get at least a few replies. Just picking one to reply to so not pointing

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 00:01 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Dale did opine thusly: OK. I took a nap and it seems everyone on the list wanted to chime in. lol This is one reason I posted here. I knew I would get at least a few replies. Just picking one to

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 00:01 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Dale did opine thusly: OK.  I took a nap and it seems everyone on the list wanted to chime in. lol  This is one reason I posted here.  

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Adam Carter
One post mentioned that this needs to be reinstalled, I AGREE. Re installation may be *correct*, but sometimes its impractical. I would 1. Pull the drive, and connect it to another fully patched, fully security updated windows box. 2. From that box run chkdsk - full virus scan - defrag 3.

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: One post mentioned that this needs to be reinstalled, I AGREE. Re installation may be *correct*, but sometimes its impractical. I would 1. Pull the drive, and connect it to another fully patched, fully security updated windows box. 2. From that box run chkdsk - full

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Adam Carter
For a Linux list, I sure am getting a lot of good ideas on windoze. O_O I'm sure there's many people on this list that have to support relatives broken PCs ^_^ For me, i have Vista (OEM, came with the laptop) running in a VMware virtual machine for iTunes (dont get me started on that POS)

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Stroller
On 15/11/2010, at 11:36pm, Dale wrote: ... I don't have the OS media to reinstall. Because it is kids, they don't want to buy the OS. Assuming the laptop has an OEM Windows license sticker on the underside, it is not necessary to buy a new o/s disk. Any standard Microsoft XP OEM CD [1] will

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-15 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 15/11/2010, at 11:36pm, Dale wrote: ... I don't have the OS media to reinstall. Because it is kids, they don't want to buy the OS. Assuming the laptop has an OEM Windows license sticker on the underside, it is not necessary to buy a new o/s disk. Any

[gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-14 Thread Dale
Hi, I have a niece that brought me her puter. It's a HP with windoze XP on it. I want to defrag the hard drive but the one that comes with windoze won't work. Is there a free defrag tool that is safe on windoze? I ask because I don't want to install something and not know what I am

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-14 Thread Jacob Todd
Defraggler. Ccleaner by the same company is also nice.

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-14 Thread Dale
Jacob Todd wrote: Defraggler. Ccleaner by the same company is also nice. That is one I ran across with google. It appears it can run from the OS itself. Is it capable of running from within the OS it is defragging? Way back when, defraggers had to be run from either another drive or