Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-07 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 09:02:42PM -0200, Norberto Bensa wrote: Gentoo has -from my point of view- only one benefit: if you're a developer, you'll love Gentoo as every dev-dependency is already installed. Other than that, I see none. Learning. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Steven Lembark
Where did that bit of apocrypha come from, and why is it parroted by so many people? snip Depending on what you do with the system it still can be quite true. For example, there is a known bug in the RH distro of Perl that leaves it running 10x slower than a locally compiled version. There

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-05 Thread Stroller
On 3 Feb 2009, at 22:39, Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-04 Thread Jesús Guerrero
El Mar, 3 de Febrero de 2009, 23:39, Grant Edwards escribió: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-04 Thread David W Noon
In message c1cfj-6j...@gated-at.bofh.it, Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-04 Thread Jesús Guerrero
El Mie, 4 de Febrero de 2009, 0:06, Paul Hartman escribió: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

2009-02-04 Thread Sebastián Magrí
El mié, 04-02-2009 a las 11:09 +0100, Jesús Guerrero escribió: El Mie, 4 de Febrero de 2009, 0:06, Paul Hartman escribió: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where

[gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the right instruction set. Where did that bit

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Norberto Bensa
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: AFAICT, the performance benefit due to compiler optimization is practically nil in real-world usage. It used to make a difference, but not anymore with today microprocessors. In my experience the huge benefit of

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Saphirus Sage
Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the right instruction

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Yannick Mortier
2009/2/3 Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Constantine D. Kardaris
It is not just about higher performance. The same way you can have higher performance, the same way you can use less flags and less optimizations for a solid/stable system. You are just not bounded (most of the times) to fixed choices others doing for you.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Grant
Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the right instruction set. More often than

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 03 Februar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Dale
Saphirus Sage wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread kashani
Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the right instruction