Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-12 Thread Timur Aydin
On 7/5/2013 11:12 PM, Dale wrote: I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to be? I read a percentage somewhere that said like

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 12.07.2013 18:36, schrieb Timur Aydin: On 7/5/2013 11:12 PM, Dale wrote: I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too. Anyway, has anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to be?

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-12 Thread shawn wilson
On Jul 12, 2013 4:32 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 12.07.2013 18:36, schrieb Timur Aydin: On 7/5/2013 11:12 PM, Dale wrote: I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too.

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-10 Thread Davide De Prisco
If you use a open source system probably you want that the community help you with your security problems and you can help the community with bug finder. Linux is not perfect but it's the best system that the community can write. The community want you. Il giorno 10/lug/2013 06:13, Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-10 Thread Dale
Davide De Prisco wrote: If you use a open source system probably you want that the community help you with your security problems and you can help the community with bug finder. Linux is not perfect but it's the best system that the community can write. The community want you. I do that

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 08:24:03AM -0500, Dale wrote Questions. Can a virus infect the OS when running on Linux through java/javascript/flash? There are two levels of infection... 1) One-off execution of bad stuff when you visit a web page. 2) A more permanent infection that survives

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 08:24:03AM -0500, Dale wrote Questions. Can a virus infect the OS when running on Linux through java/javascript/flash? There are two levels of infection... 1) One-off execution of bad stuff when you visit a web page. 2) A more permanent

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Questions. Can a virus infect the OS when running on Linux through java/javascript/flash? Or would the infection at the least be limited to that user? I think how they typically work, on any OS, is they

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 08/07/2013 15:24, Dale wrote: Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:21:25PM -0500, Dale wrote Well, no Wine here. So that won't happen. Actually, I don't have a copy of windoze here at all. Neither of my two rigs have ever had windoze installed on them at

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 08:41:21PM -0500, Dale wrote OK. I do banking online. I also pay my bills online along with social sites as well. I use Lastpass so that I can have some really REALLY funky passwords. I think I am one of few that has not had his facebook hacked. Anyway, I run

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-09 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 08:41:21PM -0500, Dale wrote OK. I do banking online. I also pay my bills online along with social sites as well. I use Lastpass so that I can have some really REALLY funky passwords. I think I am one of few that has not had his facebook hacked.

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-08 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:21:25PM -0500, Dale wrote Well, no Wine here. So that won't happen. Actually, I don't have a copy of windoze here at all. Neither of my two rigs have ever had windoze installed on them at all. BTW, I have been known to open those attachments

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Questions. Can a virus infect the OS when running on Linux through java/javascript/flash? Or would the infection at the least be limited to that user? I think how they typically work, on any OS, is they exploit a bug in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/07/2013 15:24, Dale wrote: Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:21:25PM -0500, Dale wrote Well, no Wine here. So that won't happen. Actually, I don't have a copy of windoze here at all. Neither of my two rigs have ever had windoze installed on them at all. BTW, I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:21:25PM -0500, Dale wrote Well, no Wine here. So that won't happen. Actually, I don't have a copy of windoze here at all. Neither of my two rigs have ever had windoze installed on them at all. BTW, I have been known to open those attachments before. I usually

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. Not to start a flamewar on which is the best AV, but I'm curious which one this is?

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread the
On 07/07/13 20:07, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. Not to start a flamewar on which is the best AV, but I'm curious

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-07 12:19 PM, the the.gu...@mail.ru wrote: On 07/07/13 20:07, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. Not to start a

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Mick
On Sunday 07 Jul 2013 17:19:13 the wrote: On 07/07/13 20:07, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. Not to start a

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:07:51PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus in the wild since it's inception. Not to start a flamewar on which is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 01:15:35PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-07 12:19 PM, the the.gu...@mail.ru wrote: On 07/07/13 20:07, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jul 8, 2013 1:05 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:07:51PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Alecks Gates
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Jul 8, 2013 1:05 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:07:51PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: NB: I only

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 01:36:38AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: Oh. My. Goodness! ESET! I *love* that piece of gold :-) In fact, I'm still having the glow from the satisfaction of successfully convincing the management to replace the previous p.o.s. that goes by the name of SEP, with this

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-07 2:04 PM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:07:51PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't missed a virus in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread the
On 07/06/13 02:21, Dale wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/07/2013 00:21, Dale wrote: I'm still trying to figure out what he thought he would accomplish tho. I can't get my head wrapped around that yet. That's easy to answer. The fellow probably doesn't know much. If you want a brilliant example, just go read a wide bunch of threads on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 05 Jul 2013 22:46:10 Paul Hartman wrote: ... but the person sitting at the keyboard is usually capable of screwing it up more than any virus. :) Hah! Tell me about it. :-( -- Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 Jul 2013 07:57:38 the wrote: On 07/06/13 02:21, Dale wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote: While we was chatting, he said that Linux is just as prone to getting a virus as windoze and so is a Mac. I think my laughing let him know I wasn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Randolph Maaßen
On Jul 6, 2013 11:13 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Friday 05 Jul 2013 22:46:10 Paul Hartman wrote: ... but the person sitting at the keyboard is usually capable of screwing it up more than any virus. :) Hah! Tell me about it. :-( -- Peter What I did recently:

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread shawn wilson
I was present for a discussion about which is the most secure OS. I don't remember the forum but the consensus was that the most secure OS is the one you know. Anyone can wreck a system but not everyone has the ability to maintain a system. I'm not arguing that you can run Windows as tight as

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 10:50:40AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Technically, he's not wrong - any OS is just as susceptible to viruses as any other, you just have to get over the first hurdle which is getting code to run. The overall design of Windows has historically made this somewhat easy,

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 10:12:27AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 05 Jul 2013 22:46:10 Paul Hartman wrote: ... but the person sitting at the keyboard is usually capable of screwing it up more than any virus. :) Hah! Tell me about it. :-( Ack -- Happy Penguin Computers

[gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread Dale
I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a interesting statement that makes me think I'm not recommending them

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread Davide De Prisco
Ahahahah... Il giorno 05/lug/2013 22:13, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com ha scritto: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread William Kenworthy
On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a interesting statement that makes

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

2013-07-05 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote: I had a interesting adventure the other day. A friend of mine's son is getting ready to go to college. Budget is tight so we went to find a used laptop for him. I went into the local puter shop and the techie guy there had a