Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted kdevelop ebuilds

2015-03-02 Thread Stroller

On Mon, 2 March 2015, at 1:36 am, Fernando Rodriguez 
frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote:
 ...
 Don't forget to file a bug so we can track your issue.
 
 Should I file one with gentoo even if it's an upstream bug?

Yes. 

Usually what I do in this case is go to the upstream mailing list, and see if I 
get any quick answers. 

This may resolve in a quick fix, a bug being opened or no response, but in any 
case you can then open a ticket at bugs.gentoo.org giving a link to upstream - 
either this is bug 1234 at KDE, see bugs.kde.org/ticket?1234 or this is how 
you fix it or I tried to get help on the KDE mailing list but there was no 
response, see archive.lists.kde.org/989871.

At the end of the day, the Gentoo devs have scarcely more resources than you or 
I do. If the problem is going to get fixed then someone needs to roll up their 
sleeves and get their hands dirty. You might not be an elite QT programmer 
capable of fixing the bug, but if you believe it to be an upstream issue then 
at least you can bring it to their attention and help them identify when it 
shows up.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted kdevelop ebuilds

2015-02-27 Thread Matti Nykyri
 On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:07, Fernando Rodriguez 
 frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Why does a good ebuild gets replaced with a broken one? Is there any way to 
 make sure that packages that I'm using don't get removed from the portage tree
 or at least that the package doesn't get downgraded automatically. Right now 
 if I install an unstable package by keywording a specific version and it gets 
 deleted you get downgraded the next time you run emerge -vauDN so you have no 
 simple way of going back to your working configuration since the ebuild is 
 gone.

I would do it like this:

Make an overlay of your own and copy the wanted ebuild there. Mask the package 
and unmask the version you copied to the overlay. 

Of course there are also other ways

You can download an old portage snapshot to get the deleted ebuild back.

-- 
-Matti





[gentoo-user] Deleted kdevelop ebuilds

2015-02-27 Thread Fernando Rodriguez

I've been using kdevelop-4.7.0 (unstable) for a while and it was working just 
fine. Then about a couple weeks ago it's ebuild got deleted from the portage 
tree and replaced with kdevelop-4.7.1 which is broken (I have issues with 
remote debugging).

Why does a good ebuild gets replaced with a broken one? Is there any way to 
make sure that packages that I'm using don't get removed from the portage tree
or at least that the package doesn't get downgraded automatically. Right now 
if I install an unstable package by keywording a specific version and it gets 
deleted you get downgraded the next time you run emerge -vauDN so you have no 
simple way of going back to your working configuration since the ebuild is 
gone.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted kdevelop ebuilds

2015-02-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 03:07:34 -0500
Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote:

 
 I've been using kdevelop-4.7.0 (unstable) for a while and it was
 working just fine. Then about a couple weeks ago it's ebuild got
 deleted from the portage tree and replaced with kdevelop-4.7.1 which
 is broken (I have issues with remote debugging).
 
 Why does a good ebuild gets replaced with a broken one? Is there any
 way to make sure that packages that I'm using don't get removed from
 the portage tree or at least that the package doesn't get downgraded
 automatically. Right now if I install an unstable package by
 keywording a specific version and it gets deleted you get downgraded
 the next time you run emerge -vauDN so you have no simple way of
 going back to your working configuration since the ebuild is gone.
 

You can look in the packages Changelog in the portage tree, perhaps
there's an entry there explaining why the old version was removed.

ebuilds are never truly lost, if you still have it installed the ebuild
is stored in /var/db. If not, you can find it in the gentoo attic
(google can help), download it and put it in your local overlay. Mask
the versions you don't want and portage will ensure your local copy
stays installed.

Alan




Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted kdevelop ebuilds

2015-02-27 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, February 27, 2015 11:45:52 AM Alan McKinnon wrote:

 You can look in the packages Changelog in the portage tree, perhaps
 there's an entry there explaining why the old version was removed.

It only says Version bump. Removed old
 
 ebuilds are never truly lost, if you still have it installed the ebuild
 is stored in /var/db. If not, you can find it in the gentoo attic
 (google can help), download it and put it in your local overlay. Mask
 the versions you don't want and portage will ensure your local copy
 stays installed.

Thanks, I found it on the attic, I didn't know you could get deleted ebuilds 
from it. I think it would be best if portage didn't downgrade packages 
automatically.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez

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