Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-03-02 Thread David Rosenbaum
Thanks Dave On Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 05:31 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 23:09:54 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > It's bad enough depclean deleting the active kernel if you don't > > > watch out, without something deciding to install a non-existent > > > kernel and deleting the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 23:09:54 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > It's bad enough depclean deleting the active kernel if you don't > > watch out, without something deciding to install a non-existent > > kernel and deleting the live one :-) > > I have my own hand-coded script that runs "emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:20:37PM +, Wol wrote > what are they going to do about "eselect kernel set ..." then? > > It's bad enough depclean deleting the active kernel if you don't watch > out, without something deciding to install a non-existent kernel and > deleting the live one :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Hi, Wol writes: > On 15/02/2023 15:51, Daniel Frey wrote: >> On 2/15/23 06:10, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Wol
On 15/02/2023 15:51, Daniel Frey wrote: On 2/15/23 06:10, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but managed differently.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Daniel Frey
On 2/15/23 06:10, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but managed differently. Should be less, since you already have

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:10 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more > > bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but > > managed differently. > > > > Should

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more > bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but > managed differently. > Should be less, since you already have portage installed but not necessarily

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Hi, "Walter Dnes" writes: > A whole bunch of busy-work for emerge, and nothing in the news item > indicates it's really necessary for the average user. Howsabout... It's definitely necessary. Those packages provide links for vital parts of the filesystem, like /bin/sh. Why do you want to

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 02:44:47 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > After thoroughly reading the docs at... > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2022-12-27-alternatives-introduction.html > it looks like the hand of him-who-must-not-be-named. Rather than > provide special support for the 1% extreme

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 08:57:48PM -0500, Michael Cook wrote > On 2/14/23 20:47, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > >Am I missing something obvious that would cause problems? > > > You're missing a lot of manual busy work you would have to do > maintaining a package.provided since packages depend on

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-14 Thread Michael Cook
On 2/14/23 20:47, Walter Dnes wrote: A whole bunch of busy-work for emerge, and nothing in the news item indicates it's really necessary for the average user. Howsabout... * manually zapping with "rm -rf /var/db/repos/gentoo/app-alternatives" * and then include "app-alternatives" in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-14 Thread David Rosenbaum
Dave On Tue, Feb 14, 2023, 20:47 Walter Dnes wrote: > A whole bunch of busy-work for emerge, and nothing in the news item > indicates it's really necessary for the average user. Howsabout... > > * manually zapping with "rm -rf /var/db/repos/gentoo/app-alternatives" > * and then include

[gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-14 Thread Walter Dnes
A whole bunch of busy-work for emerge, and nothing in the news item indicates it's really necessary for the average user. Howsabout... * manually zapping with "rm -rf /var/db/repos/gentoo/app-alternatives" * and then include "app-alternatives" in the file pointed to by