Re: [gentoo-user] Is lshw reporting correctly?

2014-12-28 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 24 Dec 2014 09:14:43 Mick wrote:
 On Tuesday 23 Dec 2014 21:53:07 Poison BL. wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
   This is what I see when I plugged in two memory modules:
   ===
   
*-memory

 description: System Memory
 physical id: 2f
 slot: System board or motherboard
 size: 16GiB
   
   *-bank:0
   
description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0.8 ns)
product: Array1_PartNumber1
vendor: A1_Manufacturer1
physical id: 0
serial: A1_SerNum1
slot: DIMM_A1
size: 8GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
   
   *-bank:1
   
description: [empty]
product: Array1_PartNumber0
vendor: A1_Manufacturer0
physical id: 1
serial: A1_SerNum0
slot: DIMM_A2
   
   *-bank:2
   
description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0.8 ns)
product: F3-2133C9-8GXH
vendor: Undefined
physical id: 2
serial: 
slot: DIMM_B1
size: 8GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
   
   *-bank:3
   
description: [empty]
product: Array1_PartNumber3
vendor: A1_Manufacturer3
physical id: 3
serial: A1_SerNum3
slot: DIMM_B2
   
   
   
   These were bought as a set from Amazon:
   
   http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ripjaws-PC17000-2133MHz-Memory-Platforms/dp/B00
   7C OT274/
   
   but as you can see above only the second module reports a product code
   (product: F3-2133C9-8GXH), while the first module shows
   Array1_PartNumber1.
   
   Is this normal?  Is there something wrong with the memory module(s),
   the MoBo, or even the lshw command?
   
   --
   Regards,
   Mick
  
  Primarily, I suspect that anything over about 1600MHz is going to
  require poking the bios (or uefi) to actually run it at its spec'd
  clock (enabling following the XMP profile defined by the ram, if the
  mobo directly supports doing so, is usually all it takes), otherwise
  it down-steps to either 1333 or 1600 as 'standard' defined speeds for
  ddr3.
 
 I've set the UEFI memory menu to 'Automatic', so I expect that when I start
 compiling stuff it will increase to higher settings.

Hmm ... it didn't, or at least it wasn't reported by lshw.


  As for why it's not reporting the product, vendor, and s/n's
  properly, I'm not sure. I'd try swapping them to see if the issue
  moves with them, but as long as they're actually able to run stable
  (and reliably) at their spec'd rates, and they really are the sizes
  they claim, I'd be inclined not to care whether the nvram values
  beyond the speed profiles are read properly.
 
 I've swapped them and I can see that lshw displays exactly the same
 information, so it seems like a MoBo issue.  Hmmm ...
 
 I know now that the memory is OK.  I'll finish the gentoo installation and
 then I will flash the UEFI firmware with a more recent version to see if it
 is caused by dodgy firmware.
 
 Thanks for your help.

I flashed the MoBo with the latest firmware.  The lshw output is the same and 
swapping the RAM modules does not change what the MoBo reports.  Only Bank 2 
reports the product number.

I O/C the memory to 2133MHz, at least that's what the UEFI is telling me.  The 
lshw stayed the same reporting 1333MHz as shown above.  So, I'm guessing that 
the UEFI is not talking to lshw in a particularly informative way.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Is lshw reporting correctly?

2014-12-24 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 23 Dec 2014 21:53:07 Poison BL. wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  This is what I see when I plugged in two memory modules:
  ===
  
   *-memory
   
description: System Memory
physical id: 2f
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 16GiB
  
  *-bank:0
  
   description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0.8 ns)
   product: Array1_PartNumber1
   vendor: A1_Manufacturer1
   physical id: 0
   serial: A1_SerNum1
   slot: DIMM_A1
   size: 8GiB
   width: 64 bits
   clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
  
  *-bank:1
  
   description: [empty]
   product: Array1_PartNumber0
   vendor: A1_Manufacturer0
   physical id: 1
   serial: A1_SerNum0
   slot: DIMM_A2
  
  *-bank:2
  
   description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0.8 ns)
   product: F3-2133C9-8GXH
   vendor: Undefined
   physical id: 2
   serial: 
   slot: DIMM_B1
   size: 8GiB
   width: 64 bits
   clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
  
  *-bank:3
  
   description: [empty]
   product: Array1_PartNumber3
   vendor: A1_Manufacturer3
   physical id: 3
   serial: A1_SerNum3
   slot: DIMM_B2
  
  
  
  These were bought as a set from Amazon:
  
  http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ripjaws-PC17000-2133MHz-Memory-Platforms/dp/B007C
  OT274/
  
  but as you can see above only the second module reports a product code
  (product: F3-2133C9-8GXH), while the first module shows
  Array1_PartNumber1.
  
  Is this normal?  Is there something wrong with the memory module(s), the
  MoBo, or even the lshw command?
  
  --
  Regards,
  Mick
 
 Primarily, I suspect that anything over about 1600MHz is going to
 require poking the bios (or uefi) to actually run it at its spec'd
 clock (enabling following the XMP profile defined by the ram, if the
 mobo directly supports doing so, is usually all it takes), otherwise
 it down-steps to either 1333 or 1600 as 'standard' defined speeds for
 ddr3. 

I've set the UEFI memory menu to 'Automatic', so I expect that when I start 
compiling stuff it will increase to higher settings.


 As for why it's not reporting the product, vendor, and s/n's
 properly, I'm not sure. I'd try swapping them to see if the issue
 moves with them, but as long as they're actually able to run stable
 (and reliably) at their spec'd rates, and they really are the sizes
 they claim, I'd be inclined not to care whether the nvram values
 beyond the speed profiles are read properly.

I've swapped them and I can see that lshw displays exactly the same 
information, so it seems like a MoBo issue.  Hmmm ... 

I know now that the memory is OK.  I'll finish the gentoo installation and 
then I will flash the UEFI firmware with a more recent version to see if it is 
caused by dodgy firmware.

Thanks for your help.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Is lshw reporting correctly?

2014-12-23 Thread Mick
This is what I see when I plugged in two memory modules:
===
 *-memory
  description: System Memory
  physical id: 2f
  slot: System board or motherboard
  size: 16GiB
*-bank:0
 description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0.8 ns)
 product: Array1_PartNumber1
 vendor: A1_Manufacturer1
 physical id: 0
 serial: A1_SerNum1
 slot: DIMM_A1
 size: 8GiB
 width: 64 bits
 clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
*-bank:1
 description: [empty]
 product: Array1_PartNumber0
 vendor: A1_Manufacturer0
 physical id: 1
 serial: A1_SerNum0
 slot: DIMM_A2
*-bank:2
 description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0.8 ns)
 product: F3-2133C9-8GXH
 vendor: Undefined
 physical id: 2
 serial: 
 slot: DIMM_B1
 size: 8GiB
 width: 64 bits
 clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
*-bank:3
 description: [empty]
 product: Array1_PartNumber3
 vendor: A1_Manufacturer3
 physical id: 3
 serial: A1_SerNum3
 slot: DIMM_B2


These were bought as a set from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ripjaws-PC17000-2133MHz-Memory-Platforms/dp/B007COT274/

but as you can see above only the second module reports a product code 
(product: F3-2133C9-8GXH), while the first module shows Array1_PartNumber1.

Is this normal?  Is there something wrong with the memory module(s), the MoBo, 
or even the lshw command?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Is lshw reporting correctly?

2014-12-23 Thread Poison BL.
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is what I see when I plugged in two memory modules:
 ===
  *-memory
   description: System Memory
   physical id: 2f
   slot: System board or motherboard
   size: 16GiB
 *-bank:0
  description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0.8 ns)
  product: Array1_PartNumber1
  vendor: A1_Manufacturer1
  physical id: 0
  serial: A1_SerNum1
  slot: DIMM_A1
  size: 8GiB
  width: 64 bits
  clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
 *-bank:1
  description: [empty]
  product: Array1_PartNumber0
  vendor: A1_Manufacturer0
  physical id: 1
  serial: A1_SerNum0
  slot: DIMM_A2
 *-bank:2
  description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0.8 ns)
  product: F3-2133C9-8GXH
  vendor: Undefined
  physical id: 2
  serial: 
  slot: DIMM_B1
  size: 8GiB
  width: 64 bits
  clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
 *-bank:3
  description: [empty]
  product: Array1_PartNumber3
  vendor: A1_Manufacturer3
  physical id: 3
  serial: A1_SerNum3
  slot: DIMM_B2
 

 These were bought as a set from Amazon:

 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ripjaws-PC17000-2133MHz-Memory-Platforms/dp/B007COT274/

 but as you can see above only the second module reports a product code
 (product: F3-2133C9-8GXH), while the first module shows Array1_PartNumber1.

 Is this normal?  Is there something wrong with the memory module(s), the MoBo,
 or even the lshw command?

 --
 Regards,
 Mick

Primarily, I suspect that anything over about 1600MHz is going to
require poking the bios (or uefi) to actually run it at its spec'd
clock (enabling following the XMP profile defined by the ram, if the
mobo directly supports doing so, is usually all it takes), otherwise
it down-steps to either 1333 or 1600 as 'standard' defined speeds for
ddr3. As for why it's not reporting the product, vendor, and s/n's
properly, I'm not sure. I'd try swapping them to see if the issue
moves with them, but as long as they're actually able to run stable
(and reliably) at their spec'd rates, and they really are the sizes
they claim, I'd be inclined not to care whether the nvram values
beyond the speed profiles are read properly.

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy