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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > ( PulseAudio is also being merged into systemd. Think about it. ) Unless the systemd developers have decided to stop targeting the non-desktop use-case, this is pure delirium.

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:46 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > How does a file take up less than a single FS block? An inode has to be > allocated _somewhere_, does it not? > So, the details are going to be filesystem-specific, but typically inodes go into some kind of area of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:06:00PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 21/12/2016 21:51, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:20 PM, wrote: > >> > >>> The following USE changes are

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 02:04:05PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:44 PM, wrote: > > Corbin Bird [16-12-21 17:12]: > > The first run of emerge tells me to add the systemd USE flag to dbus. > > I did that and ran into to

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Doesn't it strike you as curious Not really. :) > 10s of harmless unit files (text), each less than one fs block? > Setting aside the core of this issue (which everybody has already gone on about ad nauseum,

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On 21/12/2016 21:51, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:20 PM, wrote: >> >>> The following USE changes are necessary to proceed: >>> (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for

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On 21/12/2016 21:46, Rich Freeman wrote: > I suggest ignoring this for the moment and see if the info above > resolves your systemd issues. I'm not sure why kwin has the > dependency that it does, but it looks to me like it is set up as a > hard dependency that you can't avoid without modifying

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:20 PM, wrote: > >> The following USE changes are necessary to proceed: >> (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details) >> # required by

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:20 PM, wrote: > > emerge -t --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y --tree --keep-going > --backtrack=30 --exclude media-video/nvidia-settings --exclude > app-misc/screen --exclude app-misc/ytree --exclude dev-python/sip --exclude >

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On 21/12/2016 21:20, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Rich Freeman [16-12-21 20:12]: >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:44 PM, wrote: >>> Corbin Bird [16-12-21 17:12]: >>> The first run of emerge tells me to add the systemd USE flag to dbus.

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Rich Freeman [16-12-21 20:12]: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:44 PM, wrote: > > Corbin Bird [16-12-21 17:12]: > > The first run of emerge tells me to add the systemd USE flag to dbus. > > I did that and ran into to problems I

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:44 PM, wrote: > Corbin Bird [16-12-21 17:12]: > The first run of emerge tells me to add the systemd USE flag to dbus. > I did that and ran into to problems I reported. Ok, I think you left that bit out... And this is why

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Corbin Bird [16-12-21 17:12]: > > On 12/20/2016 10:25 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The master portage spakes again. > > And the novice was *not* enlightened... > > > > > > Total: 17 packages (11 upgrades, 4 new, 1 in new slot, 1 reinstall), Size > > of

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 07:53:33 -0600, Corbin Bird wrote: > The ability to separate "udev" code from "systemd" code is going away > very soon. > ( by design, on purpose, etc. ) > So if you want to run "udev" ... you going to be running "systemd". No > choice. > ( PulseAudio is also being merged into

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > On 12/21/2016 06:59 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: >> Corbin Bird wrote: >>> The "sys-fs/eudev" package is the Gentoo fork of "sys-fs/udev" for >>> people who don't want systemd. >> Ehm... I still use "sys-fs/udev" (not

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On 12/21/2016 06:59 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: > Corbin Bird wrote: >> The "sys-fs/eudev" package is the Gentoo fork of "sys-fs/udev" for >> people who don't want systemd. > Ehm... I still use "sys-fs/udev" (not eudev) without systemd. > No problems so far. Do I have to worry? > > -Matt > > It is

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: > Corbin Bird wrote: >> >> The "sys-fs/eudev" package is the Gentoo fork of "sys-fs/udev" for >> people who don't want systemd. > > Ehm... I still use "sys-fs/udev" (not eudev) without systemd. > No problems so far. Do I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

Corbin Bird wrote: > > The "sys-fs/eudev" package is the Gentoo fork of "sys-fs/udev" for > people who don't want systemd. Ehm... I still use "sys-fs/udev" (not eudev) without systemd. No problems so far. Do I have to worry? -Matt

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On 12/20/2016 10:25 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > The master portage spakes again. > And the novice was *not* enlightened... > > > Total: 17 packages (11 upgrades, 4 new, 1 in new slot, 1 reinstall), Size of > downloads: 25097 KiB > Conflict: 4 blocks (4 unsatisfied) > > * Error: The

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On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 05:25:20 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > I have no systemd installed...my Linux is running good ole openrc... > Why all these systemd blockers? I have just updated a couple of openrc systems and there was no attempt to pull in the spawn of the devil[tm] - I'm fairly sure

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On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 02:41:15 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > 161221 Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 05:25:20AM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote > >> sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.10.12:0/0::gentoo, > >> ebuild scheduled for merge) I have no systemd installed...my

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161221 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 05:25:20AM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote >> sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.10.12:0/0::gentoo, ebuild >> scheduled for merge) >> I have no systemd installed...my Linux is running good ole openrc... >> Why all these systemd

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 05:25:20AM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote > sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.10.12:0/0::gentoo, > ebuild scheduled for merge) > > > For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following > section of the Gentoo Linux x86

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meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > The master portage spakes again. > And the novice was *not* enlightened... > > > Total: 17 packages (11 upgrades, 4 new, 1 in new slot, 1 reinstall), Size of > downloads: 25097 KiB > Conflict: 4 blocks (4 unsatisfied) > > * Error: The above package list

[gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

Hi, The master portage spakes again. And the novice was *not* enlightened... Total: 17 packages (11 upgrades, 4 new, 1 in new slot, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 25097 KiB Conflict: 4 blocks (4 unsatisfied) * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be * installed at