[gentoo-user] Re: /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
I forgot to say that mail between espersunited.com
users works fine.  As I said, I've had this problem
for a few days and I previously thought that the
messages simply weren't being sent from the message
queue.  Incoming mail to espersunited.com works fine
too...


--- Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Last Wednesday CableOne (my ISP (unfortunately))
 suffered a violent thunderstorm at their
 headquarters
 in Arizona.  All CableOne internet customers were
 without Internet for about six hours.  Ever since
 the
 internet became available again my mail server has
 not
 been able to send mail from espersunited.com to
 yahoo.com, gmail.com and possibly more.  My mail
 server attempts to deliver the outgoing email, but
 returns the mail to the user who sent it with an
 error
 message.  The interesting thing is that I can ping
 the
 address of the recipient mail servers at Yahoo and
 Gmail, but I cannot telnet to their port 25.  I
 don't
 know if this is my problem or theirs, and if it is
 theirs I don't know how to notify them of it. 
 CableOne assigns all addresses (including their DNS
 servers) through DHCP.  Is there a way to query my
 router for DNS information and use that instead of
 the
 two hard-coded IP addresses in /etc/resolv.conf? 
 Here
 is the /etc/resolv.conf file on my server box:
 
 domain espersunited.com
 nameserver 192.168.1.1
 nameserver 24.116.0.160
 nameserver 24.116.0.202
 
 
 The 192.168.1.1 is the address of my router.  I
 don't
 know if the other two addresses are still valid.  I
 know that the Gentoo LiveCD has some way of finding
 what these IP addresses should be, but I don't know
 how it does it.  Can anyone help me with this?  Also
 any insight into my outgoing mail problem would be
 greatly appreciated...
 
 
 
 
   
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread Ralph Slooten
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Hi,

What is the error message you talk about?

Are you running your own mailserver internally, or trying to post to
your ISP's SMTP? It looks like you mean your own, but before passing
judgement could you confirm?

.. but I cannot telnet to their port 25.
If it's your own mailserver, is it trying to post directly to whomever
you send it to, or routing through your ISP's SMTP? ~ Maybe your ISP has
blocked outgoing port 25 (may have been several spammers /
hacked_computers_used_by_spammers reported to you ISP from it's own
network)?

Does 192.168.1.1 run it's own DNS?

Greetings
Ralph


Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I forgot to say that mail between espersunited.com
 users works fine.  As I said, I've had this problem
 for a few days and I previously thought that the
 messages simply weren't being sent from the message
 queue.  Incoming mail to espersunited.com works fine
 too...
 
 
 --- Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Last Wednesday CableOne (my ISP (unfortunately))
suffered a violent thunderstorm at their
headquarters
in Arizona.  All CableOne internet customers were
without Internet for about six hours.  Ever since
the
internet became available again my mail server has
not
been able to send mail from espersunited.com to
yahoo.com, gmail.com and possibly more.  My mail
server attempts to deliver the outgoing email, but
returns the mail to the user who sent it with an
error
message.  The interesting thing is that I can ping
the
address of the recipient mail servers at Yahoo and
Gmail, but I cannot telnet to their port 25.  I
don't
know if this is my problem or theirs, and if it is
theirs I don't know how to notify them of it. 
CableOne assigns all addresses (including their DNS
servers) through DHCP.  Is there a way to query my
router for DNS information and use that instead of
the
two hard-coded IP addresses in /etc/resolv.conf? 
Here
is the /etc/resolv.conf file on my server box:

domain espersunited.com
nameserver 192.168.1.1
nameserver 24.116.0.160
nameserver 24.116.0.202


The 192.168.1.1 is the address of my router.  I
don't
know if the other two addresses are still valid.  I
know that the Gentoo LiveCD has some way of finding
what these IP addresses should be, but I don't know
how it does it.  Can anyone help me with this?  Also
any insight into my outgoing mail problem would be
greatly appreciated...




  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
The error message is Warning:  Could Not Send Message
For Past Four Hours.  It says that it could not
connect to the server it's trying to deliver the mail
to and that it will keep trying for the next week.  I
am using my own mail server.  I do not wish to use
CableOne's smtp server because I consider them to be
incompetent.  My Linksys router is set to obtain
everything automatically from the cable modem.  


--- Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Hi,
 
 What is the error message you talk about?
 
 Are you running your own mailserver internally, or
 trying to post to
 your ISP's SMTP? It looks like you mean your own,
 but before passing
 judgement could you confirm?
 
 .. but I cannot telnet to their port 25.
 If it's your own mailserver, is it trying to post
 directly to whomever
 you send it to, or routing through your ISP's SMTP?
 ~ Maybe your ISP has
 blocked outgoing port 25 (may have been several
 spammers /
 hacked_computers_used_by_spammers reported to you
 ISP from it's own
 network)?
 
 Does 192.168.1.1 run it's own DNS?
 
 Greetings
 Ralph
 
 
 Michael Sullivan wrote:
  I forgot to say that mail between espersunited.com
  users works fine.  As I said, I've had this
 problem
  for a few days and I previously thought that the
  messages simply weren't being sent from the
 message
  queue.  Incoming mail to espersunited.com works
 fine
  too...
  
  
  --- Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Last Wednesday CableOne (my ISP (unfortunately))
 suffered a violent thunderstorm at their
 headquarters
 in Arizona.  All CableOne internet customers were
 without Internet for about six hours.  Ever since
 the
 internet became available again my mail server has
 not
 been able to send mail from espersunited.com to
 yahoo.com, gmail.com and possibly more.  My mail
 server attempts to deliver the outgoing email, but
 returns the mail to the user who sent it with an
 error
 message.  The interesting thing is that I can ping
 the
 address of the recipient mail servers at Yahoo and
 Gmail, but I cannot telnet to their port 25.  I
 don't
 know if this is my problem or theirs, and if it is
 theirs I don't know how to notify them of it. 
 CableOne assigns all addresses (including their
 DNS
 servers) through DHCP.  Is there a way to query my
 router for DNS information and use that instead of
 the
 two hard-coded IP addresses in /etc/resolv.conf? 
 Here
 is the /etc/resolv.conf file on my server box:
 
 domain espersunited.com
 nameserver 192.168.1.1
 nameserver 24.116.0.160
 nameserver 24.116.0.202
 
 
 The 192.168.1.1 is the address of my router.  I
 don't
 know if the other two addresses are still valid. 
 I
 know that the Gentoo LiveCD has some way of
 finding
 what these IP addresses should be, but I don't
 know
 how it does it.  Can anyone help me with this? 
 Also
 any insight into my outgoing mail problem would be
 greatly appreciated...
 
 
 
 
 
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 Not if I can help it ;-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /etc/resolv.conf and return mail

2005-04-12 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The error message is Warning:  Could Not Send Message
 For Past Four Hours.  It says that it could not
 connect to the server it's trying to deliver the mail
 to and that it will keep trying for the next week.  I
 am using my own mail server.  I do not wish to use
 CableOne's smtp server because I consider them to be
 incompetent.

You'll have to use some kind of relay. Because:
- you can ping by name to the outside mail server, so network
connectivity and DNS setup is OK.
- you cannot telnet its port 25, so this is administratively prohibited.
Same thing applies for your mail server.

You wont be able to do anything against it on your own side, except for
writing harsh emails to your ISP... Only exception would be a
misconfigured firewall on your side, but i don't suspect so.

Well, and luckily they didn't block incoming SMTP, that's at least
something;-) Maybe you have some internet server at hand that you could
use to set up your own outgoing relay server? It could listen on a port
!= 25.

HWH
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