Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Jack
On 11/26/20 8:48 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 05:01:22 -0600, Dale wrote: I got a message from him.  At least we will know he is OK.  All his machines was switched to Arch Linux and he wasn't using Gentoo anymore. So, he unsubscribed and got active with Arch. I had a feeling

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:35:20 -0600, Dale wrote: > Dare I mention hal?? Please don't :-( -- Neil Bothwick I distinctly remember forgetting that. pgphjboaJku8G.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 05:01:22 -0600, Dale wrote: > I got a message from him.  At least we will know he is OK.  All his > machines was switched to Arch Linux and he wasn't using Gentoo anymore.  > So, he unsubscribed and got active with Arch.  I had a feeling that what what he had done. I can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Dale
Thomas Mueller wrote: >> I got a message from him.  At least we will know he is OK.  All his >> machines was switched to Arch Linux and he wasn't using Gentoo anymore.  >> So, he unsubscribed and got active with Arch.  >> Miss the guy but glad he is OK and nothing happened to him.  >> Dale >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Thomas Mueller
> I got a message from him.  At least we will know he is OK.  All his > machines was switched to Arch Linux and he wasn't using Gentoo anymore.  > So, he unsubscribed and got active with Arch.  > Miss the guy but glad he is OK and nothing happened to him.  > Dale > :-)  :-)  When I sent

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:20:41 GMT Dale wrote: >> >>> P. S. I been meaning to ask this for ages now. What happened to our >>> other Allan? I think he was from Africa or something and admin'd a >>> bunch of puters there. McKinnon or something like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread antlists
On 25/11/2020 23:03, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:37:32 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive definition from which to load the boot sector. I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition. It's more like a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:37:32 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive > >> > definition from which to load the boot sector. > >> > >> I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition. > > > > It's more like a partition

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:04:26 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive >> > definition from which to load the boot sector. >> >> I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:04:26 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive > > definition from which to load the boot sector. > > I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition. It's more like a partition definition, GRUB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:20:41 GMT Dale wrote: > >> P. S. I been meaning to ask this for ages now. What happened to our >> other Allan? I think he was from Africa or something and admin'd a >> bunch of puters there. McKinnon or something like that was the past

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:20:04 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > "GRUB 2 can read files directly from LVM and RAID devices." >> >> That was certainly the behavior described [...] >> >> But that relys on the assumption that the distros all run

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:20:41 GMT Dale wrote: > P. S. I been meaning to ask this for ages now. What happened to our > other Allan? I think he was from Africa or something and admin'd a > bunch of puters there. McKinnon or something like that was the past > name. I haven't seen him

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:20:04 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > "GRUB 2 can read files directly from LVM and RAID devices." > > That was certainly the behavior described by the examples documented > by people who were using grub to boot multiple partitions by having a > master copy of grub

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:53:02 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >> I *think* the grub volume itself has to be plain, no lvm, mdadm etc. All >> the stuff for that is in the initramfs, so grub loads the initramfs, >> starts the kernel, the kernel starts pid 1 which can now start

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:53:02 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >> >>> I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB >> >>> doesn't read from LVM volumes. >> >> >> >> Then what does grub's "lvm" module do, and how does it read the >> >> distro's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:53:02 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >>> I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB > >>> doesn't read from LVM volumes. > >> > >> Then what does grub's "lvm" module do, and how does it read the > >> distro's .cfg files from the LVM volumes in which the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/11/20 23:39, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:25:38 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as chainloading a "real" partition? >>> >>> I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:25:38 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as > >> chainloading a "real" partition? > > > > I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB doesn't > > read from LVM volumes. > > Then

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 19:04:20 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as >> chainloading a "real" partition? > > I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB doesn't > read from