[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-05-05 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: >> ... >> > I STRONGLY beg to disagree! The "~amd64" notation is used to ACCEPT a >> > package even though it is (still) classified as UNSTABLE. >> >> This is package-manager terminology [...] > > No it's USER terminology. It's what users are confronted with when

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-05-05 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Martin, On Sunday, 2020-05-03 15:55:59 -, you wrote: > ... > > I STRONGLY beg to disagree! The "~amd64" notation is used to ACCEPT a > > package even though it is (still) classified as UNSTABLE. > > This is package-manager terminology which has much less states since > a package manager

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-05-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > I STRONGLY beg to disagree! The "~amd64" notation is used to ACCEPT a > package even though it is (still) classified as UNSTABLE. This is package-manager terminology which has much less states since a package manager needs no fine distinctions about the reasons of

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-05-03 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Martin, On Thursday, 2020-04-30 17:20:08 -, you wrote: > ... > >>=app-crypt/tpm2-tss-2.2.3-r1 ~amd64 > > Ah! That explains it. > > > But this only means that I accept an unstable package here, not that > > these versions are regarded stable. > > It is stabe according to the local

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Yes. To satisfy the requirements of package "sys-apps/fwupd" I long ago > added the line > >>=app-crypt/tpm2-tss-2.2.3-r1 ~amd64 Ah! That explains it. > But this only means that I accept an unstable package here, not that > these versions are regarded

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-30 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Martin, On Friday, 2020-04-24 17:32:09 -, you wrote: > ... > Maybe you run an unstable system, that is ACCEPT_KEYWORDS='~amd64'? No. > Or do you have a corresponding entry in package.{accept_,}keywords? Yes. To satisfy the requirements of package "sys-apps/fwupd" I long ago added the

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-24 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > >> ... >> I exported ARCH="x86_64" and did eix-update, but still: >> >> % F=':\n' eix --format '' -e tpm2-tss >> 2.2.3-r2: >> 2.3.3: > > Did you check with "eix --print ARCH"? Sure. > but rather what the command "arch" is returning. No. It's what it gets from the

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-24 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Martin, On Wednesday, 2020-04-22 19:48:47 -, you wrote: > ... > I exported ARCH="x86_64" and did eix-update, but still: > > % F=':\n' eix --format '' -e tpm2-tss > 2.2.3-r2: > 2.3.3: Did you check with "eix --print ARCH"? I start suspecting that it's not the value of environment

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-22 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: >> >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.2.3-r21 1 >> >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.3.3 1 1 >> >> This is strange: Both versions are only ~amd64, and in your previous >> posting the output for {isstable} was indeed 0. > > No. It was only 0 in the output of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-22 Thread james
On 4/22/20 6:41 AM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: Martin, On Tuesday, 2020-04-21 18:02:37 -, you wrote: ... DEFAULT_ARCH is normally not used, because it should be set in the profile. Does eix --print ARCH also show amd64? BINGO! No, it doesn't: $ eix --print ARCH x86_64 $

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-22 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Martin, On Tuesday, 2020-04-21 18:02:37 -, you wrote: > ... > DEFAULT_ARCH is normally not used, because it should be set in > the profile. Does > eix --print ARCH > also show amd64? BINGO! No, it doesn't: $ eix --print ARCH x86_64 $ And that rings a bell: for historical

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-21 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Martin, > > On Monday, 2020-04-20 18:21:00 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.3.3 0 1 >> ... >> The second value depends on your ARCH; >> Since {isunstable} fails, I suppose that your ARCH is not amd64. > >$ eix --dump | grep

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-21 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Martin, On Monday, 2020-04-20 18:21:00 -, you wrote: > ... > >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.3.3 0 1 > ... > The second value depends on your ARCH; > Since {isunstable} fails, I suppose that your ARCH is not amd64. $ eix --dump | grep DEFAULT_ARCH DEFAULT_ARCH="amd64"

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

2020-04-20 Thread Martin Vaeth
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > 1. Why do the package properties "isstable" and "!isunstable" differ >from each other in four out of five output lines? isstable means that a package is ARCH, isunstable means that it is ~ARCH (for your ARCH). For other arches there is isalienstable. Your