Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Wagener
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:06:17 +1100 Gregory Shearman zek...@gmail.com wrote: Even if you didn't see the message and your system didn't boot then you could still fix things by using your Minimal Install CD to start up, then chroot into your normal system and rebuild your kernel. Well, you could…

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Matthias Hanft
»Q« wrote: Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: My daily update pulled in udev-197-r3. The installation went smoothly but I decided I ought to reboot to check that I could. I couldn't. Udev couldn't start because my kernel config didn't have CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y. So I booted my rescue

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:29:19 +0100, Matthias Hanft wrote: This got me too. Now there's a discussion in -dev about making config warnings fatal. Good idea, but as I updated udev yesterday on one of my Gentoo systems, in the usual after-update messages there was a line in red, telling me

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:29:19 +0100, Matthias Hanft wrote: Good idea, but as I updated udev yesterday on one of my Gentoo systems, in the usual after-update messages there was a line in red, telling me You don't have CONFIG_DEVTMPFS enabled. udev will not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Thanasis
on 01/23/2013 04:41 AM »Q« wrote the following: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:57:59 + Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2013 08:51:43 Philip Webb wrote: I just tried upgrading to udev-197 , which is supposed to be stable. There were multiple problems I'm now

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Thanasis
on 01/23/2013 01:10 PM Thanasis wrote the following: on 01/23/2013 04:41 AM »Q« wrote the following: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:57:59 + Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2013 08:51:43 Philip Webb wrote: I just tried upgrading to udev-197 , which is supposed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:10:44 +0200 Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote: on 01/23/2013 04:41 AM »Q« wrote the following: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:57:59 + Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2013 08:51:43 Philip Webb wrote: I just tried upgrading to

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:45:33 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y] A news item about this is coming down the wire very soon now (aka within hours judging by the thread on -dev). It's there now. Among other things, it mentions checking the /dev

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:06:17 +1100, Gregory Shearman wrote: That's fine if you see the message, which you should, and the system does not suffer an unplanned reboot, which it shouldn't. But leaving a system in a state that won't reboot following a crash or power failure is not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 23 January 2013 11:06:17 Gregory Shearman wrote: Even if you didn't see the message ...as I didn't... and your system didn't boot ...as mine didn't... then you could still fix things by using your Minimal Install CD to start up, then chroot into your normal system and rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 23 January 2013 20:10:45 »Q« wrote: Of course there's no substitute for paying attention, but it's nice to get a news item, even nicer if it comes before things hit stable. Indeed. -- Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:10:45 -0600 »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:45:33 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y] A news item about this is coming down the wire very soon now (aka within hours judging by the thread on -dev).

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-22 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:57:59 + Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2013 08:51:43 Philip Webb wrote: I just tried upgrading to udev-197 , which is supposed to be stable. There were multiple problems I'm now back with udev-171 . My daily update pulled

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:56:01 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: Then you wouldn't have these problems now. There are 8 or more Gentoo boxen running on this LAN with the above and none of the issues that come up daily now in this ML. For completeness, there are seven Gentoo systems here, all but one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:17:04 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: walt wrote: On 01/20/2013 01:29 AM, victor romanchuk wrote: just migrated to sys-fs/udev-197 - everything went smoothly and seems to work. the only observation at this time is absence of device file /dev/root whilst both

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-21 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:17:04 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: walt wrote: On 01/20/2013 01:29 AM, victor romanchuk wrote: just migrated to sys-fs/udev-197 - everything went smoothly and seems to work. the only observation at this time is absence of device file

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:36:55 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I have seen servers run for YEARS with no reboots. Most of those admit, they don't upgrade them at all. One several years ago said he hadn't even blew out the dust in that time. It was over 5 years since he even

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-21 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 01:36:55PM -0600, Dale wrote Well, I have seen servers run for YEARS with no reboots. Most of those admit, they don't upgrade them at all. One several years ago said he hadn't even blew out the dust in that time. It was over 5 years since he even logged into it. He

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-21 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jan 22, 2013 11:07 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 01:36:55PM -0600, Dale wrote Well, I have seen servers run for YEARS with no reboots. Most of those admit, they don't upgrade them at all. One several years ago said he hadn't even blew out the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-21 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 01:36:55PM -0600, Dale wrote Well, I have seen servers run for YEARS with no reboots. Most of those admit, they don't upgrade them at all. One several years ago said he hadn't even blew out the dust in that time. It was over 5 years since he even

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-20 Thread walt
On 01/20/2013 01:29 AM, victor romanchuk wrote: just migrated to sys-fs/udev-197 - everything went smoothly and seems to work. the only observation at this time is absence of device file /dev/root whilst both /etc/mtab and /proc/mounts are referring to that device node: # grep root

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-20 Thread Dale
walt wrote: On 01/20/2013 01:29 AM, victor romanchuk wrote: just migrated to sys-fs/udev-197 - everything went smoothly and seems to work. the only observation at this time is absence of device file /dev/root whilst both /etc/mtab and /proc/mounts are referring to that device node: # grep

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 06:17:04PM -0600, Dale wrote: walt wrote: On 01/20/2013 01:29 AM, victor romanchuk wrote: just migrated to sys-fs/udev-197 - everything went smoothly and seems to work. the only observation at this time is absence of device file /dev/root whilst both /etc/mtab and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-20 Thread Dale
Bruce Hill wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 06:17:04PM -0600, Dale wrote: It does here: root@fireball / # ls -al /dev/root lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jan 10 07:12 /dev/root - sda6 root@fireball / # Since this appears to be a issue now, I'm switching to eudev. For some reason, I can't mask

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers

2013-01-20 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 06:17:04PM -0600, Dale wrote Since this appears to be a issue now, I'm switching to eudev. Welcome to the dark side Luke. G I'm in the midst of re-installing Gentoo on my netbook with eudev instead of mdev. It's working so far, but I haven't installed all the