Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-07 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:19:35 -0500, Alan McKinnon  
alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

Dim memory tells me it's somewhere around 2006/7?


What about DIMM memory? Get it? Get it?

OK, I'll go back to my corner now…

--
R



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote:
 On 02/05/14 20:30, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 02/05/14 17:00, walt wrote:
 On 02/05/2014 04:32 PM, Joseph wrote:
 Kerel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
 unknown-block(O,0)

 Could that be the letter O instead of the digit 0?

 No, it is 0 I double checked.
 Could it be that the hard drive is going?

 I don't think so. Could you show us your GRUB configuration?

 Regards.

 Here it is: grub.conf

 default 0
 timeout 30

 title Gentoo Current Kernel
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3
 
 Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3?
 


No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the
old deprecated IDE subsystem.

His fstab refers to drives as hd?



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote:
---8
  Here it is: grub.conf
  
  default 0
  timeout 30
  
  title Gentoo Current Kernel
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3
  
  Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3?
 
 No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the
 old deprecated IDE subsystem.
 
 His fstab refers to drives as hd?

Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?)

Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch to the 
latest thing in init systems.

Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go through 
his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally bring the 
box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas. (Sorry 
Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!)

I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was 
superseded and deprecated?

-- 
Regards
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-06 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 6 February 2014 16:09:32 CET, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote:
---8
  Here it is: grub.conf
  
  default 0
  timeout 30
  
  title Gentoo Current Kernel
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3
  
  Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3?
 
 No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using
the
 old deprecated IDE subsystem.
 
 His fstab refers to drives as hd?

Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?)

Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch
to the 
latest thing in init systems.

Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go
through 
his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally
bring the 
box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas.
(Sorry 
Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!)

I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was 
superseded and deprecated?

-- 
Regards
Peter

Not sure. I switched my last machine over to the sd-scheme 2 holidays (sometime 
in 2012) ago. (It's a netbook I only use during holidays as a picture store and 
viewer)

--
Joost
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/02/2014 17:09, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote:
 ---8
 Here it is: grub.conf

 default 0
 timeout 30

 title Gentoo Current Kernel
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3

 Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3?

 No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the
 old deprecated IDE subsystem.

 His fstab refers to drives as hd?
 
 Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?)
 
 Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch to 
 the 
 latest thing in init systems.
 
 Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go through 
 his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally bring 
 the 
 box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas. (Sorry 
 Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!)
 
 I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was 
 superseded and deprecated?


Dim memory tells me it's somewhere around 2006/7?

I agree with your suggested approach. Joseph should first get world
fully updated and synced, then switch the kernel disk system over to the
new framework, verify all that as working nicely, and only then activate
systemd. Like Canek said, systemd doesn't magically get installed and
them just work. It runs at too low a level for that to happen in all cases.




-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-06 Thread Joseph

On 02/06/14 21:19, Alan McKinnon wrote:

On 06/02/2014 17:09, Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote:

On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote:

---8

Here it is: grub.conf

default 0
timeout 30

title Gentoo Current Kernel
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3


Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3?


No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the
old deprecated IDE subsystem.

His fstab refers to drives as hd?


Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?)

Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch to the
latest thing in init systems.

Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go through
his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally bring the
box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas. (Sorry
Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!)

I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was
superseded and deprecated?



Dim memory tells me it's somewhere around 2006/7?

I agree with your suggested approach. Joseph should first get world
fully updated and synced, then switch the kernel disk system over to the
new framework, verify all that as working nicely, and only then activate
systemd. Like Canek said, systemd doesn't magically get installed and
them just work. It runs at too low a level for that to happen in all cases.

--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com


I'm running on this box linux-3.10.17-gentoo so it is fairly new. I updated my 
world 1-month ago.
I usually update every three months. First backup system, if there are no major issues after a week or so I upgrade few other system and if everything goes smooth I 
upgrade the main system with the same three.


Is is possible to have packages without systemd flag.
I was just rebuilding 
gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon


and it wants to pull-in: sys-apps/systemd-208-r2
and this conflicts with udev.

I'm not switching to systemd anytime soon, got burned recently and have no time to learn new configuration settings. 


--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 02/06/14 21:19, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 On 06/02/2014 17:09, Peter Humphrey wrote:

 On Thursday 06 Feb 2014 14:30:24 Alan McKinnon wrote:

 On 06/02/2014 08:19, Peter Humphrey wrote:

 On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote:

 ---8

 Here it is: grub.conf

 default 0
 timeout 30

 title Gentoo Current Kernel
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3


 Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3?


 No, he said earlier in the thread that this is an ancient box using the
 old deprecated IDE subsystem.

 His fstab refers to drives as hd?


 Yes, I saw that after I hit Send. (So what else is new?)

 Seems to me that too many things need updating before Joseph can switch
 to the
 latest thing in init systems.

 Maybe he should go back to his last working system (from backup?), go
 through
 his kernel config piecemeal, setting sensible options, and generally
 bring the
 box up to date. Then he can start experimenting with the latest ideas.
 (Sorry
 Joseph, I don't mean to talk about you as though you weren't here!)

 I forget: how many years is it since the ancient /dev/hd? scheme was
 superseded and deprecated?



 Dim memory tells me it's somewhere around 2006/7?

 I agree with your suggested approach. Joseph should first get world
 fully updated and synced, then switch the kernel disk system over to the
 new framework, verify all that as working nicely, and only then activate
 systemd. Like Canek said, systemd doesn't magically get installed and
 them just work. It runs at too low a level for that to happen in all
 cases.

 --
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com


 I'm running on this box linux-3.10.17-gentoo so it is fairly new. I updated
 my world 1-month ago.
 I usually update every three months. First backup system, if there are no
 major issues after a week or so I upgrade few other system and if everything
 goes smooth I upgrade the main system with the same three.

 Is is possible to have packages without systemd flag.
 I was just rebuilding gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon

 and it wants to pull-in: sys-apps/systemd-208-r2
 and this conflicts with udev.

 I'm not switching to systemd anytime soon, got burned recently and have no
 time to learn new configuration settings.

As I said in the other thread, you need to set the openrc-force USE
flag for gnome-settings-daemon. Again, this is not really supported,
it will result in reduced functionality, and somethings will probably
fail.

And since most of the underlying infrastructure of Xfce is really
GNOME, this probably will happen with more and more packages in the
future, as more and more things start using the more sane and advanced
functionality of logind.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



[gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread walt
On 02/05/2014 04:32 PM, Joseph wrote:
 Kerel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(O,0)

Could that be the letter O instead of the digit 0?




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread Joseph

On 02/05/14 17:00, walt wrote:

On 02/05/2014 04:32 PM, Joseph wrote:

Kerel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(O,0)


Could that be the letter O instead of the digit 0?


No, it is 0 I double checked.
Could it be that the hard drive is going?

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 02/05/14 17:00, walt wrote:

 On 02/05/2014 04:32 PM, Joseph wrote:

 Kerel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
 unknown-block(O,0)


 Could that be the letter O instead of the digit 0?


 No, it is 0 I double checked.
 Could it be that the hard drive is going?

I don't think so. Could you show us your GRUB configuration?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread Joseph

On 02/05/14 20:30, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

On 02/05/14 17:00, walt wrote:


On 02/05/2014 04:32 PM, Joseph wrote:


Kerel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
unknown-block(O,0)



Could that be the letter O instead of the digit 0?



No, it is 0 I double checked.
Could it be that the hard drive is going?


I don't think so. Could you show us your GRUB configuration?

Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


Here it is: grub.conf

default 0
timeout 30

title Gentoo Current Kernel
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3


--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2014 20:02:00 Joseph wrote:
 On 02/05/14 20:30, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 02/05/14 17:00, walt wrote:
  On 02/05/2014 04:32 PM, Joseph wrote:
  Kerel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
  unknown-block(O,0)
  
  Could that be the letter O instead of the digit 0?
  
  No, it is 0 I double checked.
  Could it be that the hard drive is going?
 
 I don't think so. Could you show us your GRUB configuration?
 
 Regards.
 
 Here it is: grub.conf
 
 default 0
 timeout 30
 
 title Gentoo Current Kernel
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/hda3

Shouldn't that hda3 in the kernel line be sda3?

-- 
Regards
Peter