Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread Denis
Ordinarily, I would also point to I/O errors, but not this time. I have had this same version of Mathematica, 5.2, for *years*, on this same machine, over several kernels and several Xorg upgrades, and it was rock-solid. Not one X hang or crash. Ever. No error messages or I/O warnings ever.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-15 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: Ordinarily, I would also point to I/O errors, but not this time. I have had this same version of Mathematica, 5.2, for *years*, on this same machine, over several kernels and several Xorg upgrades, and it was rock-solid. Not one X hang or crash. Ever. No error messages or I/O

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 13 October 2009 21:04:54 Denis wrote: Perhaps I should try this procedure on my home gentoo box first. Here are my USE flags: X aac aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb cdparanoia cdr cpudetection djvu emacs encode exif

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Denis
Let us know what blows up.  ;-) Dale Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 FYI, the working package.mask file for this operation is: =x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5 =x11-libs/libX11-1.2 =x11-libs/libxcb-1.4

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: Let us know what blows up. ;-) Dale Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 FYI, the working package.mask file for this operation is: =x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 12:50 -0400, Denis wrote: Let us know what blows up. ;-) Dale Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 Have you tried strace'ing mathematica to see why it dies? BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: Have you tried strace'ing mathematica to see why it dies? BillK I ran an strace, but I can't make sense out of it. There's a bunch of polling and trying to access unavailable resources, from what I can see... The file is huge, but here is the tail end of it: SNIP

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Stroller
On 14 Oct 2009, at 17:50, Denis wrote: ... While some folks here probably think this attempt foolish, I still think it was worth a try, and I learned some new things, which is always good. I don't think this attempt foolish - but I guess you're getting desperate. Having performed `emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-13 Thread Denis
Ok, emerge -e world completed successfully. Bad news: X still crashes when scrolling in Mathematica... On to the downgrade of xcb then, as much as I'd rather not do that. As suggested, I would edit the world file to remove main X packages and then use emerge --depclean to prune out the danglers.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-13 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: Ok, emerge -e world completed successfully. Bad news: X still crashes when scrolling in Mathematica... On to the downgrade of xcb then, as much as I'd rather not do that. As suggested, I would edit the world file to remove main X packages and then use emerge --depclean to prune

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-13 Thread Denis
Perhaps I should try this procedure on my home gentoo box first. Here are my USE flags: X aac aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb cdparanoia cdr cpudetection djvu emacs encode exif firefox flac foomaticdb gif glut graphics gs gtk ieee1394 imagemagick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 21:04:54 Denis wrote: Perhaps I should try this procedure on my home gentoo box first. Here are my USE flags: X aac aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb cdparanoia cdr cpudetection djvu emacs encode exif firefox flac

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Brandon Vargo
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 01:18 -0400, Denis wrote: libguide.so I don't have this one, and I don't know what it is. libgmp.so.3 This is probably the gmp (GNU Multiple Precision) arithmetic library. libvml.so I don't have this one, but I'm pretty sure it is part of Intel MKL (see below).

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Denis
Brandon, Thank you for helping me along here! Here is the output of ldd Mathematica: linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb8042000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb800c000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7ff4000) librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1 (0xb7feb000)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Brandon Vargo
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 03:18 -0400, Denis wrote: Brandon, Thank you for helping me along here! Here is the output of ldd Mathematica: linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb8042000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb800c000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7ff4000)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 00:33:02 Brandon Vargo wrote: Basically, the only thing that triggers the crash is if I hold down the mouse button and drag the scrollbar UP right after I drag it DOWN. Dragging it down doesn't seem to make any difference by itself and hasn't crashed the program

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Denis
I tried a few things today: 1) rebuilt all x11-libs, media-libs, and anything I could think of that would be related to x11-libs (such as gtk+, qt...) 2) downgraded to xorg-server-1.5 Neither of these things helped. Alan's hypothesis sounds plausible, but I don't even know which package to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: I tried a few things today: 1) rebuilt all x11-libs, media-libs, and anything I could think of that would be related to x11-libs (such as gtk+, qt...) 2) downgraded to xorg-server-1.5 Neither of these things helped. Alan's hypothesis sounds plausible, but I don't even know

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Stroller
On 13 Oct 2009, at 01:25, Denis wrote: I tried a few things today: ... Neither of these things helped. Alan's hypothesis sounds plausible, but I don't even know which package to point fingers at! Have you `emerge -e world` yet? Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Denis
Have you `emerge -e world` yet? Stroller. I have that going now. I offloaded OpenOffice to shorten the duration of the rebuild, and I don't have KDE or Gnome - just fluxbox. So it should finish by sometime tomorrow, probably. There are 604 packages total. Instead of trying to rebuild

[gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-10-11, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate Do okular or

[gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread walt
On 10/11/2009 05:14 PM, Denis wrote: He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate I am flexible on acroread, but acroread

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Denis
But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - I agree, it shouldn't crash.  Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on an icon in a menu?  If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command prompt because you may see some helpful error messages before the crash. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Brandon Vargo
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 21:46 -0400, Denis wrote: But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - I agree, it shouldn't crash. Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on an icon in a menu? If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command prompt because you may

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Denis
Brandon, Thanks very much for all this information about Mathematica - that gives me a glimmer of hope! 1) If you haven't already, recompile your xf86* packages. Somehow I missed those when upgrading X, which caused issues for me. I did recompile all the xf86 packages that qlist came up with.