Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

Am Freitag, 14. Juli 2017, 00:34:33 CEST schrieb Mick: > Interestingly, selecting Plasma to run with Wayland won't launch either. It > drops me back into the LoginDM screen. I recall from the announcement of Plasma 5.10 that that is the first version for which the developers consider Wayland

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

On Thursday 13 Jul 2017 21:58:10 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, K, 12.07.2017 kell 09:33, kirjutas Mick: > > On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 23:14:16 Mick wrote: > > > On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 01:10:00 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > > I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

Ühel kenal päeval, K, 12.07.2017 kell 09:33, kirjutas Mick: > On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 23:14:16 Mick wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 01:10:00 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > > > > /usr/share/wayland- > > > > sessions/ and tried to select it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

Ühel kenal päeval, T, 11.07.2017 kell 18:16, kirjutas R0b0t1: > In any case if you are asking the question that OP did, I would > suggest Wayland might not be for you. You may not receive any benefit > from using it unless, for some reason, the differing underlying > implementation fixes a bug -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

Ühel kenal päeval, T, 11.07.2017 kell 23:14, kirjutas Mick: > On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 01:10:00 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > > > /usr/share/wayland- > > > sessions/ and tried to select it in LightDM.  Unfortunately > > > LightDM > > > returns

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 23:14:16 Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 01:10:00 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > > > /usr/share/wayland- > > > sessions/ and tried to select it in LightDM. Unfortunately LightDM > > > returns me > > > back to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> On 2017-07-11 09:02, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> > I use GNOME with Wayland for some time and I actually didn't notice >>> > that I switched

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 01:10:00 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > > /usr/share/wayland- > > sessions/ and tried to select it in LightDM. Unfortunately LightDM > > returns me > > back to the login page. I don't know if this is a result of LightDM

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

> I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > /usr/share/wayland- > sessions/ and tried to select it in LightDM.  Unfortunately LightDM > returns me  > back to the login page.  I don't know if this is a result of LightDM > not being  > compatible with Wayland and friends, or if I need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 22:27:03 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Random information dump on the subject. > > Wayland is no program, it is a protocol, that's it. dev-libs/wayland is > essentially a helper library to speak that IPC protocol. > > The window manager has to be the compositor and other things

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

Random information dump on the subject. Wayland is no program, it is a protocol, that's it. dev-libs/wayland is essentially a helper library to speak that IPC protocol. The window manager has to be the compositor and other things as well and do the input handling, window drawing, screenshot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

Hello, > How do I know if wayland is running and if it has a hand in all this > goodness? I don't see any running process called wayland ... that's because wayland is just the API, you have to look for the compositor you use. You can test if you run wayland via "echo $WAYLAND_DISPLAY" ( not too

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 17:51:03 Franz Fellner wrote: > > Additional question: will keyboard selection keybindings for different > > languages be read off /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf? In particular, > > > > Option "XkbLayout" > > Option "XkbOptions" > > > > which help me toggle the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

> > Additional question: will keyboard selection keybindings for different > languages be read off /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf? In particular, > > Option "XkbLayout" > Option "XkbOptions" > > which help me toggle the keyboard between different languages. Or is a > different mechanism

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

Just porting to a toolkit that "supports" Wayland won't be much help to window managers. A WM has to implement the wayland server side (compositor) while applications are clients. The toolkits abstract away the X/wayland client API calls (E.G. Qt platform plugins) so you simply create your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 07:51:19 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-07-11 09:02, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > I use GNOME with Wayland for some time and I actually didn't notice > > > that I switched until I tried to get synergy working ( mouse sharing > > > software, which only works on X ), seems like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-07-11 09:02, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > I use GNOME with Wayland for some time and I actually didn't notice >> > that I switched until I tried to get synergy working ( mouse sharing >> > software, which only

[gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

On 2017-07-11 09:02, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I use GNOME with Wayland for some time and I actually didn't notice > > that I switched until I tried to get synergy working ( mouse sharing > > software, which only works on X ), seems like GDM automatically > > chose Wayland since some upgrade.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: wayland

On Tuesday 22 July 2014 00:32:59 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Most Desktops will be a while before interacting with Wayland, let alone supporting it natively, imho. Bloatware like gnome and KDE will be the last to get QT5, Wayland and a myriad of new, super_fast, secure desktop toys, imho.

[gentoo-user] Re: wayland

Stefan G. Weichinger lists at xunil.at writes: Anyone playing with wayland already? Not yet. Closely related, is the QT5 approach to start experimenting. Maybe even using it as daily driver ? I did some steps to compile and use it on my systems ... so far I wasn't able to start up

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: wayland

Am 21.07.2014 15:54, schrieb James: Stefan G. Weichinger lists at xunil.at writes: Anyone playing with wayland already? Not yet. Closely related, is the QT5 approach to start experimenting. Maybe even using it as daily driver ? I did some steps to compile and use it on my systems

[gentoo-user] Re: wayland

Stefan G. Weichinger lists at xunil.at writes: Anyone playing with wayland already? Not yet. Closely related, is the QT5 approach to start experimenting. This might help [1] [1] http://qt-project.org/wiki/QtWayland hmm, thanks ... I am not sure how to apply this Most

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: wayland

Am 21.07.2014 23:40, schrieb James: Stefan G. Weichinger lists at xunil.at writes: Anyone playing with wayland already? Not yet. Closely related, is the QT5 approach to start experimenting. This might help [1] [1] http://qt-project.org/wiki/QtWayland hmm, thanks ... I am not sure how

[gentoo-user] Re: wayland

Volker Armin Hemmann volkerarmin at googlemail.com writes: who told you that 'bloated' buzz word? The same people who told you about 'the cloud' or 'web 2.0'? Nobody, common sense from practicle experience. Here's what you *should* do to experince just how bloated most desktops have become.