Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 06:18, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 01:01 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Neil Bothwick > did opine thusly: > >> On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:40:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > I had many posts typed out, most of them rude, all of them classic >> > Alan, but

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Indi
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 09:40:01AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 09:16 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Neil Bothwick > did opine thusly: > > > While we are nitpicking: > > > > Douglas Adams was English, our second greatest writer, > > > That should be "greatest writer

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 11:21 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Joost Roeleveld did opine thusly: > On Tuesday 17 May 2011 10:35:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 10:22 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Joost > > Roeleveld > > > > did opine thusly: > > > On Tuesday 17 May 2011 08:1

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 10:19:30 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 17 May 2011 10:22:35 +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > telephone sanitiser - but that's nit-picking, even form me :) > > > > [nipick] "even form me"? :P [/nitpick] > > I think we should both be more careful with our typing when nit-

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 10:35:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 10:22 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Joost > Roeleveld > > did opine thusly: > > On Tuesday 17 May 2011 08:16:20 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > Douglas Adams was English, our second greatest writer > > > > Who do you clas

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 May 2011 10:22:35 +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > telephone sanitiser - but that's nit-picking, even form me :) > > [nipick] "even form me"? :P [/nitpick] I think we should both be more careful with our typing when nit-picking :( -- Neil Bothwick COMMAND: A suggestion made to

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:29:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Douglas Adams was English, our second greatest writer, > That should be "greatest writer", the other fellow was not the greatest > - he merely wrote soap operas. I don't know what you mean, unless you mistakenly assumed I was referr

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 10:22 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Joost Roeleveld did opine thusly: > On Tuesday 17 May 2011 08:16:20 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Douglas Adams was English, our second greatest writer > > Who do you class as the greatest English writer then? Paula Nancy Millstone Jennin

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 08:16:20 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Douglas Adams was English, our second greatest writer Who do you class as the greatest English writer then? > , so that should be > telephone sanitiser - but that's nit-picking, even form me :) [nipick] "even form me"? :P [/nitpick] -- Joos

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 09:16 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: While we are nitpicking: > Douglas Adams was English, our second greatest writer, That should be "greatest writer", the other fellow was not the greatest - he merely wrote soap operas. -- alan do

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 May 2011 01:49:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: should be > referred to using the neuter form of pronouns, i.e. "it", as befitting > their overall contribution to humanity. > > You see what I did there? You see how I recovered with a witty reposte > without even blinking an eye? It take

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:28 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 01:10:02AM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:40:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > I had many posts typed out, most of them rude, all of them classic > > > Alan, b

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 01:10:02AM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:40:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > I had many posts typed out, most of them rude, all of them classic > > Alan, but something held me back. Lucky it went that way, he later > > posted he read 1667MHZ as 16

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/16 19:01 (GMT-0400) Neil Bothwick composed: On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:40:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: he read 1667MHZ as 167MHz. Amazing what a difference a "1" can make :-) Not nearly as much as a "6" :P Sure it can! In 101000b, any of those "1"s represents more than

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:01 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:40:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I had many posts typed out, most of them rude, all of them classic > > Alan, but something held me back. Lucky it went that way, he later >

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:40:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I had many posts typed out, most of them rude, all of them classic > Alan, but something held me back. Lucky it went that way, he later > posted he read 1667MHZ as 167MHz. > > Amazing what a difference a "1" can make :-) Not nearly as mu

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:10:02PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2011 10:57:14 -0400, Indi wrote: > > > > Read the settings for PORTAGE_ELOG in man make.conf. > > > Or as that man page says, > > "Please see /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example > > for elog documentation." >

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:15 on Monday 16 May 2011, Dale did opine thusly: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:18 on Monday 16 May 2011, Indi did > > opine > > > > thusly: > >> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:10:02PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > >>> Actually after th

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:18 on Monday 16 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:10:02PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: Actually after the first or 2nd or some subsequent attempt that was my plan. After so much time passed (days, not just

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread JDM
Thnx, have followed advice. I am impressed. JDM -Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 20:57:26 To: Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!) On Mon, 16 May 2011 10:57:14 -0400,

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 16 May 2011 10:57:14 -0400, Indi wrote: > > Read the settings for PORTAGE_ELOG in man make.conf. > Or as that man page says, > "Please see /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example > for elog documentation." I know that's what the man page currently says, but I expect it will be updat

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:18 on Monday 16 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:10:02PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > > Actually after the first or 2nd or some subsequent attempt that was my > > plan. After so much time passed (days, not just hours) and I had good >

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:18:49PM -0400, Indi wrote: > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:10:02PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > > Actually after the first or 2nd or some subsequent attempt that was my > > > plan. > > > After so much time passed (days, not just hours) and I had good kernel, >

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:10:02PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > > Actually after the first or 2nd or some subsequent attempt that was my plan. > After so much time passed (days, not just hours) and I had good kernel, NFS, > and MC that I didn't see much point delaying KDE. After the errors > dis

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/16 11:26 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:00:02AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/05/15 22:18 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: > I have two Gentoo stanzas in my primary bootloader, one to load the kernel, > another to chainload Gentoo's Grub. Loading t

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:00:02AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/05/15 22:18 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: > > > I have two Gentoo stanzas in my primary bootloader, one to load the kernel, > > another to chainload Gentoo's Grub. Loading the kernel works, but chainload > > gives error 13 i

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 03:10:03PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2011 12:43:05 +, JDM wrote: > > > That's a clever trick. How do you get emails from emerge? > > Read the settings for PORTAGE_ELOG in man make.conf. > > Or as that man page says, "Please see /usr/share/portag

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Stroller
On 16/5/2011, at 1:43pm, JDM wrote: >> Most people set things up so they get emails of the post install >> messages when emerging things, but it is up to you to actually read them >> and, when necessary, follow the instructions. > That's a clever trick. How do you get emails from emerge? $ grep

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 16 May 2011 12:43:05 +, JDM wrote: > That's a clever trick. How do you get emails from emerge? Read the settings for PORTAGE_ELOG in man make.conf. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 001: Windows loaded - System in danger signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread JDM
That's a clever trick. How do you get emails from emerge? JDM -Original Message- From: Tanstaafl Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 07:58:34 To: Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!) On 2011-05-15 10:54 PM, Fe

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-15 10:54 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Why setup didn't get this right via emerge I have no idea, unless it > didn't actually do anything toward actually setting Grub up. If so, it > could be there was already some mismatched Grub code there already from > a previous use of the sectors there

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 15 May 2011 22:54:14 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Why setup didn't get this right via emerge I have no idea, unless it > didn't actually do anything toward actually setting Grub up. Emerging GRUB installs it, that's all. The post installation message would have told you to set i up, but it

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-15 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/15 22:18 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: I have two Gentoo stanzas in my primary bootloader, one to load the kernel, another to chainload Gentoo's Grub. Loading the kernel works, but chainload gives error 13 invalid executable format. I named the bzImage copied to /boot "kernel-2.6.3

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (part solved)

2011-05-15 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/15 22:18 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: The errors from NFS are different than I originally encountered, and indicate that neither portmap nor rpcbind are running. Which of the two did nfs-utils actually install (or both?), and what exactly is its name I need to use with rc-update o

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-15 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 09:20 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: My #1 problem to solve is NFS not working yet (nfs-utils aka libevent, portmap, rpc emerge failures), but it would also be very nice to get Grub to emerge. Logs: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/G/ Now as noted in the econf failed thread I've s

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 15 May 2011 21:53:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > It also helps if you don't use -v, as then the only USE flags shown > > are changes. > > I got out of that habit as I found without -v I'd more often than not > ask myself "I wonder what other flags are used for this package, and do >

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-15 Thread Mick
On Sunday 15 May 2011 20:53:04 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 20:14 on Sunday 15 May 2011, Neil Bothwick > did > > opine thusly: > > On Sat, 14 May 2011 22:55:49 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > Except when 260+ packages need updating as it happened with the last > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:14 on Sunday 15 May 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > On Sat, 14 May 2011 22:55:49 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Except when 260+ packages need updating as it happened with the last > > > KDE upgrade. I had a cursory look, but I missed some USE flag c

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-15 Thread Mick
On Sunday 15 May 2011 19:14:26 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 14 May 2011 22:55:49 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Except when 260+ packages need updating as it happened with the last > > > KDE upgrade. I had a cursory look, but I missed some USE flag changes > > > (scanner, rdesktop and vnc I

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 14 May 2011 22:55:49 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Except when 260+ packages need updating as it happened with the last > > KDE upgrade. I had a cursory look, but I missed some USE flag changes > > (scanner, rdesktop and vnc I think) which started removing packages > > and libraries. O

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/14/2011 12:01 PM, Indi wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:53:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:37 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: True, just be aware that if you enable gtk *globally* you will end up building the gtk interface for absolute

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:10:01AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:09 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > No, I do not propose that one never use global use flags. I just employ > > them very selectively, which is best for my needs. > > OK. >

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:21 on Saturday 14 May 2011, William Hubbs did opine thusly: > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:36:29AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: > > There's no big harm, except that you may end up rebuilding a bunch of > > packages. One way to get a lot of hands-on control on precise

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:09 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: > No, I do not propose that one never use global use flags. I just employ > them very selectively, which is best for my needs. OK. I'll take that as clarifying what you said earlier. Thanks for that. -- al

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:36:29AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: > There's no big harm, except that you may end up rebuilding a bunch of > packages. One way to get a lot of hands-on control on precisely what > USE you want it via the "-*" flag. But be VERY careful if you are > going to use it. A USE va

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:00:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:01 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > > > Sounds like the old "6 of one, a half-dozen of the other" to me... > > What makes the subtractive method better? > > It's not subtra

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:51 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: > > Well perhaps it's nitpicking, but I like my systems as lean as possible. > > I almost never emerge anything without -av options, just so I can say > > "no" and edit package.use if need be. It rarely causes m

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:01 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:53:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 16:37 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did > > opine > > > > thusly: > > > True, just be aware that if you enabl

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:00:03PM +0200, Mick wrote: > > Except when 260+ packages need updating as it happened with the last KDE > upgrade. I had a cursory look, but I missed some USE flag changes (scanner, > rdesktop and vnc I think) which started removing packages and libraries. > Other f

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Mick
On Saturday 14 May 2011 20:06:18 Indi wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 09:00:02PM +0200, Willie Wong wrote: > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote: > > > Sounds like the old "6 of one, a half-dozen of the other" to me... > > > What makes the subtractive method better? > > > > Thi

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 09:00:02PM +0200, Willie Wong wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote: > > Sounds like the old "6 of one, a half-dozen of the other" to me... > > What makes the subtractive method better? > > > > This is how I interpret Alan's message: > > For certai

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote: > Sounds like the old "6 of one, a half-dozen of the other" to me... > What makes the subtractive method better? > This is how I interpret Alan's message: For certain flags when you enable it for a package you will have to also enable it for

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:53:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 16:37 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > > > True, just be aware that if you enable gtk *globally* you will end up > > building the gtk interface for absolutely everything which

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:37 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 08:30:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 05:28 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix > > Miata did > > > > opine thusly: > > > Is it telling me I have to cha

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:20:01PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/05/14 10:06 (GMT-0400) Willie Wong composed: > > > The above listing shows that phonon will be built with the "vlc" use > > flag, so clearly you haven't trimmed USE down to "just" > > bash-completion, ncurses, samba, slang, xat

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Mick
On Saturday 14 May 2011 16:07:33 Felix Miata wrote: > Does [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 from 'eselect profile list' amount to a > "minimal" install (no X)? If so, is there any reason not to switch to it > instead of setting -vlc, and then later when actually ready to enable X, > switching back to kd

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:07:33AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Does [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 from 'eselect profile list' amount > to a "minimal" install (no X)? If so, is there any reason not to > switch to it instead of setting -vlc, and then later when actually > ready to enable X, switching ba

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 11:04 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/05/14 10:37 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: > Far better (IMO, YMMV) is to use /etc/portage/package.use specify such things > per package. Unless, of course, you like having a gtk GUI for everything. > :) Yes, f

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 10:06 (GMT-0400) Willie Wong composed: The above listing shows that phonon will be built with the "vlc" use flag, so clearly you haven't trimmed USE down to "just" bash-completion, ncurses, samba, slang, xattr. In fact, if you had done so you would've also trimmed out cxx, posix, a

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:00:03PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/05/14 10:37 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: > > > Far better (IMO, YMMV) is to use /etc/portage/package.use specify such > > things > > per package. Unless, of course, you like having a gtk GUI for everything. > > :) > > Yes, for s

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 10:37 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 08:30:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's telling you that you must enable USE=gtk for libcanberra for that build to succeed. The chain of packages listed won't solve the problem, they are causing it. Easiest is to l

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 08:30:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 05:28 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix Miata > did > opine thusly: > > > > > Is it telling me I have to change my USE from -gtk to +gtk, or can emerging > > one of those 8 packages listed satisfy the

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:38:04AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > >Felix Miata composed: > > >> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy > >> ">=media-libs/libcanberra-0.4[gtk]". > >> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: > >> - media-libs/libcanb

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 12:52 (GMT+0100) Mick composed: > BTW, my 3rd kernel did solve my video on ttys problem, and get me access > to my EXT2 partition. :-) Have you read and applied http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml to find out how to configure your card and xorg? Reading section 2.

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Mick
On Saturday 14 May 2011 11:21:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 11:38 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix Miata > did > > opine thusly: > > On 2011/05/14 08:25 (GMT+0200) Alan McKinnon composed: > > > Felix Miata composed: > > >> Is it telling me I have to change my USE from

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 11:38 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix Miata did opine thusly: > On 2011/05/14 08:25 (GMT+0200) Alan McKinnon composed: > > Felix Miata composed: > >> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy > >> ">=media-libs/libcanberra-0.4[gtk]". > >> !!! O

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 08:25 (GMT+0200) Alan McKinnon composed: Felix Miata composed: emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy ">=media-libs/libcanberra-0.4[gtk]". !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - media-libs/libcanberra-0.26 (Change USE:

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 05:28 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix Miata did opine thusly: > On 2011/05/13 22:35 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: > > Maybe a stupid question, but have you tried run emerge --sync > > .bash_history tells me I did this twice prior to your response... > > > and emerge -

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 05:19 (GMT+0200) Alex Schuster composed: Indi writes: Felix Miata wrote: Along the way to successful boot, I attempted two emerges suggested by the handbook (one being Grub Legacy). Both produced "ERROR: ... (compile phase)..." errors. If you like, post the messages he

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/13 22:35 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: Maybe a stupid question, but have you tried run emerge --sync .bash_history tells me I did this twice prior to your response... and emerge -vauND world yet since installing? ...but not this. Doing so now produces something that is not obvious t

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Alex Schuster
Indi writes: > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:10:02AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: >> Along the way to successful boot, I attempted two emerges suggested by the >> handbook (one being Grub Legacy). Both produced "ERROR: ... (compile >> phase)..." errors. If you like, post the messages here. Be sure

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:10:02AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > Yesterday I attempted my first Gentoo install (11.0). Thanks to help here, I > got through my mirrorselect problem. First boot failed. I managed to miss > enabling VIA ATA support, so had no access to /. Second kernel build > suceede

[gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Felix Miata
Yesterday I attempted my first Gentoo install (11.0). Thanks to help here, I got through my mirrorselect problem. First boot failed. I managed to miss enabling VIA ATA support, so had no access to /. Second kernel build suceeded, even to basic network working. First activity on first boot was '