[gentoo-user] mail to this list from home fails, but from home relayed through ISP works
This isn't the case of subscribing through work and sending from home or whatever. In both cases I sent from home, indeed from the same account in the same mail client. Only the path the message took to list.gentoo.org changed. I hadn't posted to this for quite a while until recently. When I did so again a few days ago, the message hung up in my outgoing queue and I got this message in the log: May 7 16:09:56 texada postfix/smtp[23864]: 7D46150B55: to=gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, relay=lists.gentoo.org[140.105.134.102], delay=15242, status=deferred (host lists.gentoo.org[140.105.134.102] said: 421 4.4.1 collect: read timeout on connection from m198-163.dsl.rawbw.com, from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in reply to end of DATA command)) I let it stew for a couple of hours in case this was a greylist thing, and subsequent resends did the same thing. I switched my client to relay though my ISP's MX, and the message went through fine. I'm guessing I'm running afoul of some anti-spam measure. Perhaps it is a case of reverse-DNS points to my ISP and not to my own domain, but a near-infinite number of people must share that condition. Or maybe my mailer is just misconfigured in some narrow way that none of my correspondents have had trouble with until now. I'd like to fix my system and lose the outbound relay, having something of an ideological opposition to my mail going through relays. Does anyone know what is going on here? Thanks, glen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mail to this list from home fails, but from home relayed through ISP works
On 09 May 2006 15:40, glen martin wrote: This isn't the case of subscribing through work and sending from home or whatever. In both cases I sent from home, indeed from the same account in the same mail client. Only the path the message took to list.gentoo.org changed. I hadn't posted to this for quite a while until recently. When I did so again a few days ago, the message hung up in my outgoing queue and I got this message in the log: May 7 16:09:56 texada postfix/smtp[23864]: 7D46150B55: to=gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, relay=lists.gentoo.org[140.105.134.102], delay=15242, status=deferred (host lists.gentoo.org[140.105.134.102] said: 421 4.4.1 collect: read timeout on connection from m198-163.dsl.rawbw.com, from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in reply to end of DATA command)) Many MTAs refuse to relay messages from dial-up or DSL connections - and rightly so. Just use your ISP's SMTP server as a smarthost. Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mail to this list from home fails, but from home relayed through ISP works
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 09 May 2006 15:40, glen martin wrote: This isn't the case of subscribing through work and sending from home or whatever. In both cases I sent from home, indeed from the same account in the same mail client. Only the path the message took to list.gentoo.org changed. I hadn't posted to this for quite a while until recently. When I did so again a few days ago, the message hung up in my outgoing queue and I got this message in the log: May 7 16:09:56 texada postfix/smtp[23864]: 7D46150B55: to=gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, relay=lists.gentoo.org[140.105.134.102], delay=15242, status=deferred (host lists.gentoo.org[140.105.134.102] said: 421 4.4.1 collect: read timeout on connection from m198-163.dsl.rawbw.com, from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in reply to end of DATA command)) Many MTAs refuse to relay messages from dial-up or DSL connections - and rightly so. Just use your ISP's SMTP server as a smarthost. I should certainly expect that for a relay, in which I address a message to a name not only the MX, but does a mailing list count as a relay? Certainly this is the only mailing list I've encountered to-date with such a restriction, and I participate in several. And while I totally get this for dial-up, my DSL has a static IP - I've had this number longer than many companies in this post-dot-bomb world. Indeed I can use my ISP as a smarthost, and in fact am currently doing so out of necessity. It just bothers me. Privacy is not enhanced by having my mail sitting on servers neither I nor the recipient control, and while I don't want any particular privacy for messages to this list, sending all my mail through the smarthost seems wrong. Per-destination smarthost? Blech. :) I apologise if I sound grumpy about this issue, and do thank you for the response. glen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
