Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Elias Probst
On Friday 22 June 2007 04:53:36 Dale wrote:
 Well, I read through the how to, I had all that done already, I just
 never had removed the arts USE flag.  The sounds works but it is slow to
 respond and sometimes it just doesn't catch up at all.  This is mostly
 while switching desktops or something that I do pretty quick.  Any ideas
 on that?

 I think some of it may be that arts is still running.  I did this to

 find that out:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ps aux | grep arts
  dale 31062  0.3  0.5  10784  6176 ?S21:39   0:00
  /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
  3 -f
  root 31093  0.0  0.0   1656   472 pts/0R+   21:40   0:00 grep
  --colour=auto arts
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Go to:
- KDE Controlcenter
- Sound  Multimedia
- Sound-System
Uncheck the box [x] Enable the sound system

If artsd is still running, kill the process.

 I think it uses noatun to play the sounds.  I got it to work with what I
 currently have by telling it to use mplayer to play the sounds.  I would
 like to go back to the old way but without arts if someone can tell me
 how to get around this little boo boo.


I wouldn't use noatun. It's outdated, crappy, ugly and uses aRts ;-)
There are many other good players like Amarok. It uses xine or Helix as 
backend which is able using dmix devices.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Dale
Elias Probst wrote:
 On Friday 22 June 2007 04:53:36 Dale wrote:
   
 Well, I read through the how to, I had all that done already, I just
 never had removed the arts USE flag.  The sounds works but it is slow to
 respond and sometimes it just doesn't catch up at all.  This is mostly
 while switching desktops or something that I do pretty quick.  Any ideas
 on that?

 I think some of it may be that arts is still running.  I did this to

 find that out:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ps aux | grep arts
 dale 31062  0.3  0.5  10784  6176 ?S21:39   0:00
 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
 3 -f
 root 31093  0.0  0.0   1656   472 pts/0R+   21:40   0:00 grep
 --colour=auto arts
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
   

 Go to:
 - KDE Controlcenter
 - Sound  Multimedia
 - Sound-System
 Uncheck the box [x] Enable the sound system

 If artsd is still running, kill the process.
   

OK.  That was already done as well.  However, I killed the process and
went there to hit the test sound button.  I went back and artsd was
running again plus a new one.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ps aux | grep arts
 dale 15246  2.2  1.3  28776 13816 ?S07:08   0:00
 kcmshell [kdeinit] arts 
 dale 15253  2.5  0.7  20284  7572 ?Sl   07:08   0:00
 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
 3 -f
 root 15264  0.0  0.0   1656   476 pts/6R+   07:08   0:00 grep
 --colour=auto arts
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #



 I wouldn't use noatun. It's outdated, crappy, ugly and uses aRts ;-)
 There are many other good players like Amarok. It uses xine or Helix as 
 backend which is able using dmix devices.

 Regards, Elias P.
   

I'm not using noatun, it appears that that is what KDE is using or
something.  See this:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery depends kdemultimedia
 [ Searching for packages depending on kdemultimedia... ]
 kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 (~kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.7)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

For some reason, KDE is REQUIRING arts and noatun on my system.  I have
no idea why.  Also, since removing arts, I can not get some thing to
emerge because the arts flag has been removed.  I posted the error
earlier.  Maybe it was noatun.  I know KDE was complaining that it could
not find it when I had no sound at all though.  Which is why I told it
to use mplayer.  Now it is just slow to play a sound and some sounds
don't work at all.

I don't know what is going on but it was working better before.  I just
don't want to put the arts flag back and reemerge all that stuff again.

Ideas??  I'm fresh out.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes:

 Elias Probst wrote:
  Go to:
  - KDE Controlcenter
  - Sound  Multimedia
  - Sound-System
  Uncheck the box [x] Enable the sound system
 
  If artsd is still running, kill the process.

 OK.  That was already done as well.  However, I killed the process and
 went there to hit the test sound button.  I went back and artsd was
 running again plus a new one.

Strange. When I have Enable the sound system disabled, the whole dialog 
becomes insensitive, and I cannot push the test sound button.

Have a look at the next menu item, system messages or something. Look at 
the bottom right, playback settings (or s.th. like that depending on your 
localization). Uncheck the first entry use KDE sound system, and 
instead use /usr/bin/playsound as external player (emerge 
media-libs/sdl-sound for that). Other players might work as well.

  I wouldn't use noatun. It's outdated, crappy, ugly and uses aRts ;-)
  There are many other good players like Amarok. It uses xine or Helix
  as backend which is able using dmix devices.

 I'm not using noatun, it appears that that is what KDE is using or
 something.  See this:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery depends kdemultimedia
  [ Searching for packages depending on kdemultimedia... ]
  kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 (~kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.7)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Well, noatun for sure depends on kdemultimedia, but it is not needed by 
kdemultimedia. What does equery depends noatun give? I get an empty 
list.
And what about equery depends arts? It should list a lot of packages. 
Are there some which do not have the arts? entry in it, besides noatun?

 For some reason, KDE is REQUIRING arts and noatun on my system.  I have
 no idea why.

Probably noatun needs arts, and you still have it running. Maybe noatun 
depends on noatun-plugins which you need to unmerge?

 Also, since removing arts, I can not get some thing to 
 emerge because the arts flag has been removed.  I posted the error
 earlier.  Maybe it was noatun.

It was noatun-plugins. Remove it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Mick
On Friday 22 June 2007 13:20, Dale wrote:

 OK.  That was already done as well.  However, I killed the process and
 went there to hit the test sound button.  I went back and artsd was
 running again plus a new one.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ps aux | grep arts
  dale 15246  2.2  1.3  28776 13816 ?S07:08   0:00
  kcmshell [kdeinit] arts
  dale 15253  2.5  0.7  20284  7572 ?Sl   07:08   0:00
  /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
  3 -f
  root 15264  0.0  0.0   1656   476 pts/6R+   07:08   0:00 grep
  --colour=auto arts
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
 
 I'm not using noatun, it appears that that is what KDE is using or

 something.  See this:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery depends kdemultimedia
  [ Searching for packages depending on kdemultimedia... ]
  kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 (~kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.7)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

 For some reason, KDE is REQUIRING arts and noatun on my system.  I have
 no idea why.  Also, since removing arts, I can not get some thing to
 emerge because the arts flag has been removed.  I posted the error
 earlier.  Maybe it was noatun.  I know KDE was complaining that it could
 not find it when I had no sound at all though.  Which is why I told it
 to use mplayer.  Now it is just slow to play a sound and some sounds
 don't work at all.

You will need to go through a process of removing all packages that have arts 
as a dependency.  Noatun is one of them.  If you really want to use noatun or 
noatun-plugins, I am afraid you have to also emerge arts in your system.

I've been through all this some months ago on different machines - you can 
read more here:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/180433
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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 22 June 2007, Dale wrote:
 I'm not using noatun, it appears that that is what KDE is using or

 something.  See this:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery depends kdemultimedia
  [ Searching for packages depending on kdemultimedia... ]
  kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 (~kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.7)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

It would appear that you have installed the kdemultimedia package. 
That's a monlithic one, and it WILL install noatun, which requires 
arts. if that's the case, the only way out I'm afraid is the long way 
round - unmerge kdemultimedia, and merge kdemultimedia-meta with 
USE=-arts xine

 For some reason, KDE is REQUIRING arts and noatun on my system.  I
 have no idea why.  Also, since removing arts, I can not get some
 thing to emerge because the arts flag has been removed.  I posted the
 error earlier.  Maybe it was noatun.  I know KDE was complaining that
 it could not find it when I had no sound at all though.  Which is why
 I told it to use mplayer.  Now it is just slow to play a sound and
 some sounds don't work at all.

KDE works just fine without arts  noatun, with amarok, alsa and a 
decent sound card. That's how mine is set up and it's been like that 
since, oh I dunno, 3.5? So it can be gotten to work with a minimum of 
effort. 

alan



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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Alex Schuster
Alan McKinnon writes:

 It would appear that you have installed the kdemultimedia package.
 That's a monlithic one, and it WILL install noatun, which requires
 arts.

I also have kdemultimedia installed, but not noatun.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- eix -I kdemultimedia
[I] kde-base/kdemultimedia
 Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 ~3.5.6 ~3.5.7
 Installed versions:  3.5.5(3.5)(20:25:05 04/19/07)(-akode 
alsa -arts -audiofile -debug -elibc_FreeBSD 
encode -flac -gstreamer -kdeenablefinal -mp3 -theora vorbis 
xine -xinerama)
 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
 Description: KDE multimedia apps: Noatun, KsCD, Juk...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- eix -I noatun
No matches found.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- equery depends noatun
[ Searching for packages depending on noatun... ]

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Elias Probst
On Friday 22 June 2007 15:38:49 Alex Schuster wrote:
 Alan McKinnon writes:
  It would appear that you have installed the kdemultimedia package.
  That's a monlithic one, and it WILL install noatun, which requires
  arts.

 I also have kdemultimedia installed, but not noatun.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- eix -I kdemultimedia
 [I] kde-base/kdemultimedia
  Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 ~3.5.6 ~3.5.7
  Installed versions:  3.5.5(3.5)(20:25:05 04/19/07)(-akode
 alsa -arts -audiofile -debug -elibc_FreeBSD
 encode -flac -gstreamer -kdeenablefinal -mp3 -theora vorbis
 xine -xinerama)
  Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
  Description: KDE multimedia apps: Noatun, KsCD, Juk...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- eix -I noatun
 No matches found.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- equery depends noatun
 [ Searching for packages depending on noatun... ]

   Alex

You didn't understand the difference between kdemultimedia and 
kdemultimedia-meta.
Read this:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml ;-)

Regards, Elias P.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Mick
On Friday 22 June 2007 15:06, Dale wrote:

 If it wants to play more than one sound, it only plays one.  One way I
 noticed this is if I put my mouse on the bottom where the desktop
 selection thing is then move the wheel, it only plays one sound, the
 first one then it can't play anymore for a few seconds.  It used to play
 them all at the same time, if I switch through more than one desktop.

I have noticed this too with KDE system sounds; e.g. when two notifications 
come up in quick succession when I login to a secure site and I click on them 
quickly, then only one sound is heard.

No idea why this happens.
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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Alex Schuster
Alan McKinnon writes:

 On Friday 22 June 2007, Alex Schuster wrote:
  Alan McKinnon writes:
   It would appear that you have installed the kdemultimedia package.
   That's a monlithic one, and it WILL install noatun, which requires
   arts.
 
  I also have kdemultimedia installed, but not noatun.
[...]
 You do have noatun binaries installed, but it's part of the huge
 humunguous kdemultmedia package, which is NOT a meta package

Okay, I forgot about the noatun package being for non-monolithic KDE 
installs only. TZhanks also to Elias for pointing that out.

But still I cannot find any noatun binary on my system:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- equery files kdemultimedia | grep noatun
/usr/kde/3.5/share/doc/HTML/en/noatun
/usr/kde/3.5/share/doc/HTML/en/noatun/common
/usr/kde/3.5/share/doc/HTML/en/noatun/index.cache.bz2
/usr/kde/3.5/share/doc/HTML/en/noatun/index.docbook

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- noatun
bash: noatun: command not found

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Dale
Mick wrote:
 On Friday 22 June 2007 13:20, Dale wrote:

   
 OK.  That was already done as well.  However, I killed the process and
 went there to hit the test sound button.  I went back and artsd was
 running again plus a new one.

 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ps aux | grep arts
 dale 15246  2.2  1.3  28776 13816 ?S07:08   0:00
 kcmshell [kdeinit] arts
 dale 15253  2.5  0.7  20284  7572 ?Sl   07:08   0:00
 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
 3 -f
 root 15264  0.0  0.0   1656   476 pts/6R+   07:08   0:00 grep
 --colour=auto arts
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

   
 I'm not using noatun, it appears that that is what KDE is using or

 something.  See this:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery depends kdemultimedia
 [ Searching for packages depending on kdemultimedia... ]
 kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 (~kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.7)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
   
 For some reason, KDE is REQUIRING arts and noatun on my system.  I have
 no idea why.  Also, since removing arts, I can not get some thing to
 emerge because the arts flag has been removed.  I posted the error
 earlier.  Maybe it was noatun.  I know KDE was complaining that it could
 not find it when I had no sound at all though.  Which is why I told it
 to use mplayer.  Now it is just slow to play a sound and some sounds
 don't work at all.
 

 You will need to go through a process of removing all packages that have arts 
 as a dependency.  Noatun is one of them.  If you really want to use noatun or 
 noatun-plugins, I am afraid you have to also emerge arts in your system.

 I've been through all this some months ago on different machines - you can 
 read more here:

 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/180433
   

Well, my previous email about logging out and back in has not made it
back yet.  I logged out and back in and things are better.  But there is
one thing that still bugs me.

If it wants to play more than one sound, it only plays one.  One way I
noticed this is if I put my mouse on the bottom where the desktop
selection thing is then move the wheel, it only plays one sound, the
first one then it can't play anymore for a few seconds.  It used to play
them all at the same time, if I switch through more than one desktop. 

I also noticed earlier this morning that someone hit me up on Kopete,
the one app that has been working so far, and I was changing desktops. 
The desktop sound played fine but the only way I knew Kopete opened a
chat window was that it turned the button blue at the bottom.  It could
not play a sound for Kopete since something else had it in use I guess. 
I can play a CD and the other sounds work fine.  It just seems that KDE
can only play one sound and that it has to wait a few seconds before it
can play anything else.

This is my card info:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [Live   ]: EMU10K1 - SB Live [Unknown]
   SB Live [Unknown] (rev.10, serial:0x80671102) at
 0xcc00, irq 11
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #


Any ideas on this one?   At least we made progress. 

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)


Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 22 June 2007, Alex Schuster wrote:
 Alan McKinnon writes:
  It would appear that you have installed the kdemultimedia package.
  That's a monlithic one, and it WILL install noatun, which requires
  arts.

 I also have kdemultimedia installed, but not noatun.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- eix -I kdemultimedia
 [I] kde-base/kdemultimedia
  Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 ~3.5.6 ~3.5.7
  Installed versions:  3.5.5(3.5)(20:25:05 04/19/07)(-akode
 alsa -arts -audiofile -debug -elibc_FreeBSD
 encode -flac -gstreamer -kdeenablefinal -mp3 -theora vorbis
 xine -xinerama)
  Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
  Description: KDE multimedia apps: Noatun, KsCD, Juk...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- eix -I noatun
 No matches found.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- equery depends noatun
 [ Searching for packages depending on noatun... ]

   Alex

You do have noatun binaries installed, but it's part of the huge 
humunguous kdemultmedia package, which is NOT a meta package

If you install kdemultimedia-meta instead, it installs a bunch of 
individual packages, one of which is kde-base/noatun

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Sabyasachi Ghosh

I usually disable the kde sound system and use a command line player (like
aplay or mplayer) for the event notifications..seems to work fine with me..

On 6/19/07, Thierry de Coulon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

I've managed to emerge the gentoo base, X and KDE and all are running
fine. My
last problem is sound. After several attemps (with the kernel ALSA module
and
ALSA-driver), I've got my SB Live correctly loaded with ALSA Driver - at
least there is no error message. I didn't load any module explicitely. The
system loads emu10K1-gp

However, I have no sound. The KDE control center does show options for
midi on
the SB Live 5.1, I've unmuted everything I could in alsamixer, kmix shows
there is a sound device there.

But kinfocenter says there is no information about the sound device, and
when
I start Amarok,  it says there is no suitable demux plugin.

Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I did
an
emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the actual
flags.

What am I missing?

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-22 Thread Elias Probst
On Friday 22 June 2007 16:38:35 Mick wrote:
 On Friday 22 June 2007 15:06, Dale wrote:
  If it wants to play more than one sound, it only plays one.  One way I
  noticed this is if I put my mouse on the bottom where the desktop
  selection thing is then move the wheel, it only plays one sound, the
  first one then it can't play anymore for a few seconds.  It used to play
  them all at the same time, if I switch through more than one desktop.

 I have noticed this too with KDE system sounds; e.g. when two notifications
 come up in quick succession when I login to a secure site and I click on
 them quickly, then only one sound is heard.

 No idea why this happens.

Maybe using picoxine for playing system sounds helps you. Then use 
plug:dmix:1 as ALSA output device in picoxine.

Regards, Elias P.


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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-21 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 19 June 2007, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
   
 Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I
 did an emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the
 actual flags.

 What am I missing?
 

 You are not missing anything, you have something too much.

 Remove arts from your USE, from package.use and emerge -uND world

 Then start fault finding from the start all over again :-)

 Seriously, that utter piece of trash called arts has caused more grief 
 to KDE than just about anything else ever written for the entire 
 project. And you don't need it anymore - alsa now does everything arts 
 ever could, and more

 alan

   

Well, wanting to be up with the times, I removed the arts USE flag and
did a emerge -uvDN world.  12 hours later the update is done.  I have no
sound where before it was working fine.  I can play a CD.  I get no
sound from anything else.  Is it possible that I NEED arts for mine to work?

Any ideas?

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)


Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-21 Thread Dale
Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 19 June 2007, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
   
 Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I
 did an emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the
 actual flags.

 What am I missing?
 

 You are not missing anything, you have something too much.

 Remove arts from your USE, from package.use and emerge -uND world

 Then start fault finding from the start all over again :-)

 Seriously, that utter piece of trash called arts has caused more grief 
 to KDE than just about anything else ever written for the entire 
 project. And you don't need it anymore - alsa now does everything arts 
 ever could, and more

 alan

   

 Well, wanting to be up with the times, I removed the arts USE flag and
 did a emerge -uvDN world.  12 hours later the update is done.  I have
 no sound where before it was working fine.  I can play a CD.  I get no
 sound from anything else.  Is it possible that I NEED arts for mine to
 work?

 Any ideas?

 Dale

 :-)  :-)  :-)

I was doing some more checking around.  I forgot about this package that
failed to emerge.  Here is the error:

 /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../..
 -I/usr/kde/3.5/include/arts -I/usr/kde/3.5/include -I/usr/qt/3/include
 -I.  -I//usr/include/db4.3  -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT  -D_REENTRANT 
 -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE
 -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG
 -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -march=athlon-xp -O2 -momit-leaf-frame-pointer
 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor
 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE
 -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION  -c
 -o kpercentspinbox.lo kpercentspinbox.cpp
 /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++  -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi
 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall
 -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -march=athlon-xp -O2
 -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute
 -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common
 -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT
 -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION   -Wl,-z,now -o noatunwakeup.la -rpath
 /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3 -L/usr/kde/3.5/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib -module
 -avoid-version -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined
 -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined wakeup.lo kminutespinbox.lo
 kpercentspinbox.lo -lkio -lnoatun -lm
 grep: /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la: No such file or directory
 /bin/sed: can't read /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la: No such file or
 directory
 libtool: link: `/usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la' is not a valid libtool
 archive
 make[3]: *** [noatunwakeup.la] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/noatun-plugins/alarm'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/noatun-plugins'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7'
 make: *** [all] Error 2

 !!! ERROR: kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 failed.
 Call stack:
   ebuild.sh, line 1629:   Called dyn_compile
   ebuild.sh, line 975:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
   ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_compile
   noatun-plugins-3.5.7.ebuild, line 39:   Called kde-meta_src_compile
   kde-meta.eclass, line 380:   Called kde_src_compile
   kde.eclass, line 170:   Called kde_src_compile 'all'
   kde.eclass, line 340:   Called kde_src_compile 'myconf' 'configure'
 'make'
   kde.eclass, line 336:   Called die

 !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
 stack if relevant.
 !!! A complete build log is located at
 '/var/log/portage/kde-base:noatun-plugins-3.5.7:20070621-192014.log'.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Looks like it is looking for arts still.  How do I get this to work?

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-21 Thread Dale
Dale wrote:
 snip
 I was doing some more checking around.  I forgot about this package
 that failed to emerge.  Here is the error:

 snip

 Looks like it is looking for arts still.  How do I get this to work?

 Thanks

 Dale

 :-)  :-)


Well, this appears to be making a bigger mess than it will fix.  After
going around and around with this, I get this now:

  * QA Notice: USE Flag 'arts' not in IUSE for kde-base/noatun-3.5.7
  * The package kde-base/noatun-3.5.7 you're trying to merge requires aRTs.
  * However, kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7 was compiled with arts flag disabled.
  *
  * QA Notice: USE Flag 'arts' not in IUSE for kde-base/noatun-3.5.7
  * To build this package you have to recompile
  * kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7 with this arts use flag enabled.

 !!! ERROR: kde-base/noatun-3.5.7 failed.
 Call stack:
   ebuild.sh, line 1645:   Called dyn_setup
   ebuild.sh, line 706:   Called qa_call 'pkg_setup'
   ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called pkg_setup
   ebuild.sh, line 1314:   Called kde_pkg_setup
   kde.eclass, line 68:   Called die

 !!! kdelibs missing arts
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
 stack if relevant.
 !!! A complete build log is located at
 '/var/log/portage/kde-base:noatun-3.5.7:20070622-004741.log'.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Looks like KDE requires arts flag to be set.  Anybody know how to get
around this?  If not, I'm going back to arts, that way I will have some
sound.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-21 Thread Squall Liu

At the very first , make sure you have load your sound card driver .check it
by

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
 HDA NVidia at 0xf500 irq 17

If you get no card found , reconfigure your kernel or install your
alsa-driver

if you want to install the alsa-driver by emerge , don't forget to add your
sound card flag in your make.conf

ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel




then you can flow this howto http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA

Personal idea , I recommend you to use ALSA to instead of arts ..

I'm using it very well 




On 6/22/07, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Dale wrote:

snip
I was doing some more checking around.  I forgot about this package that
failed to emerge.  Here is the error:

snip


Looks like it is looking for arts still.  How do I get this to work?

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)


Well, this appears to be making a bigger mess than it will fix.  After
going around and around with this, I get this now:

 * QA Notice: USE Flag 'arts' not in IUSE for kde-base/noatun-3.5.7
 * The package kde-base/noatun-3.5.7 you're trying to merge requires aRTs.
 * However, kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7 was compiled with arts flag disabled.
 *
 * QA Notice: USE Flag 'arts' not in IUSE for kde-base/noatun-3.5.7
 * To build this package you have to recompile
 * kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7 with this arts use flag enabled.

!!! ERROR: kde-base/noatun-3.5.7 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1645:   Called dyn_setup
  ebuild.sh, line 706:   Called qa_call 'pkg_setup'
  ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called pkg_setup
  ebuild.sh, line 1314:   Called kde_pkg_setup
  kde.eclass, line 68:   Called die

!!! kdelibs missing arts
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack
if relevant.
!!! A complete build log is located at '/var/log/portage/kde-base:
noatun-3.5.7:20070622-004741.log'.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #


Looks like KDE requires arts flag to be set.  Anybody know how to get
around this?  If not, I'm going back to arts, that way I will have some
sound.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-)





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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-21 Thread Dale
Squall Liu wrote:
 At the very first , make sure you have load your sound card driver
 .check it by

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
   HDA NVidia at 0xf500 irq 17

 If you get no card found , reconfigure your kernel or install your
 alsa-driver

 if you want to install the alsa-driver by emerge , don't forget to add
 your sound card flag in your make.conf

 ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel


 then you can flow this howto http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA

 Personal idea , I recommend you to use ALSA to instead of arts ..

 I'm using it very well 



That sounds like a plan.   Dale goes to work on this  

Back later.  Thanks for the link.

Dale

:-)  :-)


Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-21 Thread Dale
Dale wrote:
 Squall Liu wrote:
 At the very first , make sure you have load your sound card driver
 .check it by

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
   HDA NVidia at 0xf500 irq 17

 If you get no card found , reconfigure your kernel or install your
 alsa-driver

 if you want to install the alsa-driver by emerge , don't forget to
 add your sound card flag in your make.conf

 ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel


 then you can flow this howto http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA

 Personal idea , I recommend you to use ALSA to instead of arts ..

 I'm using it very well 



 That sounds like a plan.   Dale goes to work on this  

 Back later.  Thanks for the link.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

Well, I read through the how to, I had all that done already, I just
never had removed the arts USE flag.  The sounds works but it is slow to
respond and sometimes it just doesn't catch up at all.  This is mostly
while switching desktops or something that I do pretty quick.  Any ideas
on that? 

I think some of it may be that arts is still running.  I did this to
find that out:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ps aux | grep arts
 dale 31062  0.3  0.5  10784  6176 ?S21:39   0:00
 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
 3 -f
 root 31093  0.0  0.0   1656   472 pts/0R+   21:40   0:00 grep
 --colour=auto arts
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Now keep in mind that I can not get this to emerge without arts in the
USE line and kdelibs having the arts USE flag too.  Here is the error:

 /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++  -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi
 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall
 -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -march=athlon-xp -O2
 -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute
 -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common
 -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT
 -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION   -Wl,-z,now -o noatunwakeup.la -rpath
 /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3 -L/usr/kde/3.5/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib -module
 -avoid-version -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined
 -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined wakeup.lo kminutespinbox.lo
 kpercentspinbox.lo -lkio -lnoatun -lm
 grep: /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la: No such file or directory
 /bin/sed: can't read /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la: No such file or
 directory
 libtool: link: `/usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la' is not a valid libtool
 archive
 make[3]: *** [noatunwakeup.la] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/noatun-plugins/alarm'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/noatun-plugins'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7'
 make: *** [all] Error 2

 !!! ERROR: kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 failed.
 Call stack:
   ebuild.sh, line 1629:   Called dyn_compile
   ebuild.sh, line 975:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
   ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_compile
   noatun-plugins-3.5.7.ebuild, line 39:   Called kde-meta_src_compile
   kde-meta.eclass, line 380:   Called kde_src_compile
   kde.eclass, line 170:   Called kde_src_compile 'all'
   kde.eclass, line 340:   Called kde_src_compile 'myconf' 'configure'
 'make'
   kde.eclass, line 336:   Called die

 !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
 stack if relevant.
 !!! A complete build log is located at
 '/var/log/portage/kde-base:noatun-plugins-3.5.7:20070622-024505.log'.

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I think it uses noatun to play the sounds.  I got it to work with what I
currently have by telling it to use mplayer to play the sounds.  I would
like to go back to the old way but without arts if someone can tell me
how to get around this little boo boo.

That arts is starting to look pretty good right about now.  o_O

emerge --info just in case someone see something I missed:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge --info
 Portage 2.1.3_rc4 (default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop, gcc-4.1.2,
 glibc-2.5-r3, 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 i686)
 =
 System uname: 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
 Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
 Timestamp of tree: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:50:01 +
 distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port
 3632) [disabled]
 ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.32
 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4
 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7
 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
 sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
 sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2,
 1.10
 sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1-r3
 

Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 19 June 2007, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
 Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I
 did an emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the
 actual flags.

 What am I missing?

You are not missing anything, you have something too much.

Remove arts from your USE, from package.use and emerge -uND world

Then start fault finding from the start all over again :-)

Seriously, that utter piece of trash called arts has caused more grief 
to KDE than just about anything else ever written for the entire 
project. And you don't need it anymore - alsa now does everything arts 
ever could, and more

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-20 Thread Randy Barlow
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 You are not missing anything, you have something too much.
 
 Remove arts from your USE, from package.use and emerge -uND world
 
 Then start fault finding from the start all over again :-)
 
 Seriously, that utter piece of trash called arts has caused more grief 
 to KDE than just about anything else ever written for the entire 
 project. And you don't need it anymore - alsa now does everything arts 
 ever could, and more

I've also solved a lot of my problems by disabling the arts sound system
in KDE and just using straight up ALSA.  I think back in the days of OSS
something like arts or esd was really needed since OSS only allowed one
process to use it at once, but now arts really gets in the way.  I was
recently trying to do some recording and couldn't for the life of me get
the recording software (Audacity) to both play what I've recorded and
record at the same time.  Once I turned off arts the program Just Worked
(TM).  YMMV :)

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[gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-19 Thread Thierry de Coulon
Hello,

I've managed to emerge the gentoo base, X and KDE and all are running fine. My 
last problem is sound. After several attemps (with the kernel ALSA module and 
ALSA-driver), I've got my SB Live correctly loaded with ALSA Driver - at 
least there is no error message. I didn't load any module explicitely. The 
system loads emu10K1-gp

However, I have no sound. The KDE control center does show options for midi on 
the SB Live 5.1, I've unmuted everything I could in alsamixer, kmix shows 
there is a sound device there.

But kinfocenter says there is no information about the sound device, and when 
I start Amarok,  it says there is no suitable demux plugin.

Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I did an 
emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the actual flags.

What am I missing?

Thierry

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-19 Thread Elias Probst
On Tuesday 19 June 2007 19:20:22 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
 Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I did
 an emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the actual
 flags.

 What am I missing?

 Thierry

IMHO aRts isn't necessary any longer since there is dmix... it causes more 
pain than it helps.

Disable the arts useflag and remerge every affected package:
emerge -avN world

Go to:
- KDE Controlcenter
- Sound  Multimedia
- Sound-System
Uncheck the box [x] Enable the sound system

Regards, Elias P.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-19 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Tuesday 19 Jun 2007 10:50:22 pm Thierry de Coulon wrote:

 What am I missing?

Try logging out of KDE and get into a virtual console session. From there try 
to play a sound file using alsaplayer or play command may be? That will clear 
out any doubts of aRts playing spoil sport. If you don't get any sound from 
there as well, then try to restart alsasound and look for any error msgs in 
dmesg.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

2007-06-19 Thread Roy Wright
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
 Hello,

 However, I have no sound...

 What am I missing?
   

While not gentoo specific, this page:

  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems

has some good sound debugging info that helped me set up a
kubuntu system.  I did try most of the commands on my working
gentoo system while debugging to give myself a reference.

FYI, my problem was getting the S/PDIF optical output working,
turned out the analog output was /dev/dsp while the digital output
was /dev/dsp1.

HTH,
Roy
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