Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:06:50 -0700, Trenton Adams wrote: Actually, that's a good point. All that writing to the FAT would use those flash blocks a lot, which would indeed wear it out. I trashed a Crucial 1GB drive in a few weeks, until I found out about this change. Windows does sync by

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-17 Thread b.n.
Actually, that's a good point. All that writing to the FAT would use those flash blocks a lot, which would indeed wear it out. I trashed a Crucial 1GB drive in a few weeks, until I found out about this change. I think this problem should find its way in the official Gentoo docs (if it

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/15/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, $ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sdd /dev/sdd: Timing cached reads: 3640 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1820.28 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 30 MB in 3.13 seconds = 9.60 MB/sec 9.6 is pretty slow! I should be able to get at least

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 06:40 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/15/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, $ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sdd /dev/sdd: Timing cached reads: 3640 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1820.28 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 30 MB in 3.13 seconds = 9.60

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/16/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 06:40 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/15/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, $ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sdd /dev/sdd: Timing cached reads: 3640 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1820.28 MB/sec Timing

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-16 Thread Trenton Adams
Are you mounting with the sync option, or no? Try it with, and without. If you do it without, time what it takes to do the copy, and unmount. unmount will do the actual sync. I've noticed that linux in generall is extremely slow with USB devices sometimes. My external USB2 (ATA 100) drive

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 07:21 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/16/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 06:40 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/15/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9.6 is pretty slow! I should be able to get at least double that...

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 10:46 -0700, Trenton Adams wrote: Are you mounting with the sync option, or no? Try it with, and without. If you do it without, time what it takes to do the copy, and unmount. unmount will do the actual sync. hey, that sped it up heaps! $ sudo mount -t vfat -o

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-16 Thread Trenton Adams
On 1/16/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 10:46 -0700, Trenton Adams wrote: Are you mounting with the sync option, or no? Try it with, and without. If you do it without, time what it takes to do the copy, and unmount. unmount will do the actual sync. hey,

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-16 Thread Trenton Adams
On 1/16/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 10:46 -0700, Trenton Adams wrote: Are you mounting with the sync option, or no? Try it with, and without. If you do it without, time what it takes to do the copy, and unmount. unmount will do the actual sync. hey,

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-16 Thread b.n.
I'm wondering if we should be reporting this to the kernel guys. I see this on *all* linux systems with kernel 2.6, but I'm not sure about 2.4. But, I think I'll try enabling some options that Richard mentioned first. Kernel guys know it very well. They recently implemented the sync option

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-16 Thread Trenton Adams
On 1/16/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if we should be reporting this to the kernel guys. I see this on *all* linux systems with kernel 2.6, but I'm not sure about 2.4. But, I think I'll try enabling some options that Richard mentioned first. Kernel guys know it very

[gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-15 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi all, I have a 2.5in usb HD and 2 external usb2 cases. I've been getting pretty average performance with a 7200 rpm drive in both cases, but I just thought this was the way it is. However, I just did a test: $ time cp /usr/portage/distfiles/OOo_2.0.1_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-15 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 04:08:58PM +0930, Penguin Lover Iain Buchanan squawked: I noticed I had uhci-hcd loaded (the usb 1 module?) so I unloaded it, and my keyboard stopped working!!! So using the laptop keyboard, I replugged the HD (now without uhci-hcd) and it still goes slow... uhci-hcd

Re: [gentoo-user] usb1 performance out of usb2 external HD

2006-01-15 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 02:17 -0500, Willie Wong wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 04:08:58PM +0930, Penguin Lover Iain Buchanan squawked: I noticed I had uhci-hcd loaded (the usb 1 module?) so I unloaded it, and my keyboard stopped working!!! So using the laptop keyboard, I replugged the HD